I agree, though not so much for price. What makes ELRS so great, isnt so much the price. In fact, I just bought a ELRS module that I think cost me more than a crossfire module would. Whats great about it, is that its not proprietary. I can buy receivers and modules and flight controllers from any brand, and it will just work. I can do whatever the heck I want with it, and whatever the heck someone else with coding skills wants to implement. It will keep working and being supported and available long after whatever brand I bought it from, went bankrupt. As someone looking to buy his first digital FPV system, the one thing holding me back is not so much the price, its the fact I have to choose a proprietary system that locks me in. I want an O3 system in my bigger quads for the image quality/recording and range, a lightweight hdzero for microquads, I might even want a walksnail v2 pro for night flying. What I dont want is 3 (very) expensive goggles, only 1 or 2 of which offer diopter adjustments, some that may or may not support betaflight OSD, or analog in, or let me adjust aspect ratio, and with no guarantees they will work with the next release, or with the risk that one of them goes bankrupt or something. Its a complete mess.
I have some really good news. The OpenIPC developers were able to achieve 30-40ms latency with a camera that costs 40-50$! They used 120fps 720p resolution. OpenIPC is open source. As you explained very well, you buy the hardware once and you will have the open source updates for ever. No proprietary bullshits. You would need a set of goggles with HDMI input for the ground station. Choose whichever you want, it doesn’t matter as long as there is an HDMI input.
@vertigo2893 totally agree, but for me personally when I was switching from flysky ( ew i know ) I was either gonna go with elrs or crossfire. The key deciding factor was that it was cheaper compared to crossfire due to a lot of manufacturers. But the most important thing was its availability. I remember when I was looking for crossfire modules I couldn't find one new in stock anywhere. Whereas elrs was a completely different story. I really hope the devs will go down this very open source route cause crossfire was a pain to find modules and receivers for. I agree with what you're saying 👍
@@mariofpv 30-40ms is excellent news indeed. Im still sceptical using such cheap "off the shelve" hardware (and fairly old hardware at that) + old existent compression and networking protocols would yield a result thats as good (if not better) than what DJI can do after decades of R&D and spending billions on custom silicon and tweaking protocols. I know a bit of what DJI does on image sensors (the ones they dont buy from Sony) and video processing, and trust me when I say, its not something you want to compete with unless you have really deep pockets. So all this sounds a bit like mashing up a 10 year old android phone and using an arduino gyro, and making a better gopro than gopro. If its true, then its true, and it would be awesome, but please send something to Joshua Bardwell or something for early testing.
Stumbled across some of the original code years and years ago and have been lurking ever since. It is crazy to see where y'all have gotten since then. Have not yet tried OpenIPC, need to get on that. I was running OpenHD until I busted my pi and prices are just too high for me to keep experimenting. Was never super happy with the latency in OpenHD, even when flying fixed wing, so I am super happy to see you continuing to push it down.
Would be interesting to see a cheap, open source competitor to other HD FPV video systems, like HDZero, DJI, and Walksnail, however the main hurdle with this seems to be latency, as you say in the description that you have latency "as low as" 50ms, whereas a system like DJI averages 30-40ms, and that's considered a little high. If that latency could be lowered at least 10ms more, this would get a lot of people's attention. Seems worth keeping an eye on.
True. When it's all just being done by people in their spare time on equipment not really made for it, it's still impressive though. DJI is what you want for freestyle or racing. Lowest latency. But it cuts you off with range. This doesn't, and for those of us who like long distance fixed wing, it's acceptable.
@@guerrillaradio9953 DJI has lowest latency? That's not true, HDZero has the lowest latency out of the four digital systems and is lower than even analog. Not sure if you mean DJI or digital.
@@xxxplode5999 How is lower latency than analog even supposed to be possible, where pixels are transmitted then displayed pretty much as they are scanned? Lower than analog transmission viewed on a digital display I can see, but that's not all analog.
Great work 👏 I think When flying fast or manoeuvering, the 720p@50 resolution will be enough since the delay will be more important. But it will be nice to switch between 720p and 1080p for sightseeing.
I'd really love to have a free/open alternative to those closed source systems. So finally something I'd prefer over analog NTSC/PAL-Video. But as others already said: latency is THE main problem with FPV. Quality/Range isn't nearly as important.
The latency of this FPV system is low enough for long range flights unless you are planning to do some freestyle crazy tricks 50km away. Cheers mate!😊🍻
I totally agree, but HDZERO doesn’t cost 50$, all included, right? The point of this new system is to offer to EVERYONE the chance of getting into digital FPV. It’s an entry level system. Cheers mate!😊🍻
I dont understand why no one (afaik) ever tried analog HD. For most FPV pilots, analog has some fundamental advantages over digital video, like latency and the way the signal degrades. Obviously PAL and NTSC are pretty limiting in their resolution but there are open standards for (analog) HDTV.
@@AlexLebed I havent personally tried hdzero yet, but from what Ive seen, its very far from amazing. The way the signal breaks up makes it almost unflyable unless you have a really strong signal, and the range/penetration is at best underwhelming. Im still sticking to analog SD for my light or cheap builds, and I feel like I have no choice other than DJI or walksnail for larger builds with digital FPV. Especially since I dont think 30-ish ms latency is a big problem. Stroboscopic flashing and full screen rainbows at even short distances is a bigger problem to me.
Thank you for sharing, it can be really helpful! I have some questions, if you don't mind: 1) Why does camera FOV change back and forth throughout the video? 2) When using any of those systems, is video signal encrypted, or can anybody with right setup pick up your video, like with analog video transmission?
1) In the 1080p the sensor is in native mode and 30fps. In the 720p the sensor is in binning mode and 50fps. That’s why the FOV is changing. 2) Yes the video is encrypted and no one else can decode it unless you share the ground station key (gs.key). Cheers mate!😊🍻
Yes there is OSD I just thought to focus on the video quality. I prefer 1080p too. I used QGroundStation that has full OSD + a lovely map that has a mode which you can “click and fly” on that location! Cheers mate!😊🍻
are there goggles that are compatible...you're using a laptop for a display? What's the lag and range like? Love being able to disable the ircut filter for nightflying that's insane actually.
You can use any FPV goggles with HDMI input. You can use any x86 laptop or a Raspberry Pi or a Jetson Nano or even an Android TV Box as a receiver. The IRCUT function is awesome and I have it available on a controller switch! More functions are coming soon. Stay tuned! Cheers mate!😊🍻
Great Video! Of course 1080p looks way better, but for me it depends on how bad the latency will be. i wanted to build a Wifibroadcast Drone since I stumbled over you channel a year ago, but the Pi's were always sold out. Maybe this will be my chance! Just for understanding: You do send the controll signals over the Wifibroadcast Link directly to the FC, or do you have a seperate Radio Link for steering?
I’m sending the control MAVLINK commands directly to the flight controller. What you see in this video is the only hardware I used for this quadcopter. The OpenIPC is cheap AF! Forget the expensive Raspberry Pi! Cheers mate!😊🍻
Srry if I missed it during the video, but do you have a recomendation of what size lense I should buy witht the camera? Which one did you buy?@@mariofpv
We tried to fly behind a house and it was fine. Behind the trees was also fine. We started having glitches and breakups when we tried to go behind trees while the quadcopter was far away, more than 1km. The link that OpenIPC is using is called WFB-ng. Search for more TH-cam videos on this. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Looks promising. Biggest issue that stood out to me is that changing the resolution is changing your FOV(crops in the video) instead of changing the compression. Definitely not an insignificant change. What's the end to end latency at?
The developers made some tests with some high end OpenIPC cameras and they had around 50ms latency with tweaked settings. I haven’t done any tests yet but it’s in my plans. I’m using a low-end camera (£12) in this quadcopter so I might need to upgrade. The high-end cameras start at £50 which is a reasonable price. Yes, the resolution change is done by cropping method which is something I was expecting for a hardware that costs only £12. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Great work all! Mario just looking at your recommended camera link and noted in the feedback from someone... "Attention! This camera cannot be stitched with openipc, the loader is not stitched, at least through a burn, you will only have to use a programmer. The seller does not give U-Boot password. Better buy from another seller. Attention! This camera cannot be flashed with openipc, the bootloader is not flashed, at least through burn, you will only have to use a programmer. The seller does not give the U-Boot password. Better buy from another seller." your thoughts on this, Thankyou
Which lens did you get with your module? There's a wide variety from like 1.7mm to 8mm. Not sure which one could work out best, or did you have your own lens to attach?
I can confirm that the range is 55km. We used large patch antennas. There have been reliable reports by other pilots that they flew 120km! Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Thanks for answering so quickly! Wow! Awesome range.
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This is very cool. been hoping something would happen to improve on what openhd has been stalled with. on the subject of resolution they both look good and i think if you had props out of view it would all improve as well because those spinning props are eating up a lot of bandwidth. mount the camera in place of a gopro on the battery plate it'll get the props mostly out of view.
I’m planning to build a quadcopter with a “deadcat” frame to remove the props out of view. You are right. Cheers mate!😊🍻
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@@mariofpv highly recommend the source one v3 with 7" deadcat arms from cncmadness in 7mm thick carbon. its like $55 and just works perfectly hardly have to do any tuning since the frame doesn't have any resonance issues.
Unfortunately this camera is no longer available on AliExpress and the similar cameras that they recommend have a different board layout with no apparent place to solder in the programming wires.
I know, thanks to my video they sold them all. You will find new links in the OpenIPC wiki. Also search for the SSC338Q IMX415. It can do 120fps with very low latency. Cheers mate!😊🍻
I am using the 1,7 in this video. I wouldn’t suggest anything above 2,8mm because the FOV get too small and you would want to have an immersive FPV experience, right? Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv nevermind I figured it out it was the flight controller I'm still new to all of this but I want to learn. I already ordered the camera and the two wifi modules I was wondering what else I needed to make just a working table top version of this that would help me understand it all more before I put it on a wing or drone. Am I able to make this whole system work with out a flight controller or is that needed?
@MarioFPV the Wifi module you link to on AliE looks like USB-A, but in your video, on your quad, I see something that looks like USB-C to me. Unfortunately you don't show the Wifi module being plugged into the quad. Could you kindly clarify? Also, *any* laptop? Looking at the wfb-ng README, it seems it specifically and only supports the RTL8812au chipset. And the module you like is AR9271-based, so I'm still assuming that's the VTX, so your video description's buying links should be expanded by a RTL8812au module...? I think I might be lucky myself, having an unused TP-Link Archer T4U lying around which should sport that chipset. Alfa AWUS036ACH seems like the (only?) proper choice though, especiall for LRing, since it has diversity & SMA connectors ootb. That's a whopping 60 bucks though.
Please watch the new videos. There are many answers to your questions that I have already included in those videos with details and links to buy. Cheers mate!😊🍻
I just hope you guys have tested the video encoder on these cameras and how well it handles high motion. It looks to me that from the footage your showing the encoder is not coping well at all with the sort motion you can expect during flight. I hate to dissuade people but its important that for an open source to be a success that you dont cripple yourselves by using really weak encoding hardware. Most android phones that people throw away have at least 264 hardware encoders built into the powerful arm soc.
The developers have created a new binary called gkrcparams that we can modify ANY parameter in the encoder. This means we now need to tweak the encoder of the IP Camera and make it usable for FPV applications. Stay tuned for more updates as I will be covering the upcoming releases. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Yes the 1,7mm has the widest FOV. It has a lot of distortion (fisheye effect) but for FPV view it’s ideal. I would prefer it a bit less wide to be honest. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Hi! I have not tried OpenIPC yet but i was wondering what makes the range is so long? How did you set up the antenna in your ground station? What kind of wifi router you are using in your ground station? I assume you apply so much power for this much range for connection.
Welcome to the channel. There are so many things you need to learn. Start reading from here: github.com/svpcom/wfb-ng Then read here: github.com/OpenIPC/wiki/blob/master/en/fpv.md Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Thank you. I have another question. The wifi transmitter link you gave in description says it has the range of 150 meters. Did you use it on the ground station too or just on the drone? What was the antennas? In the video it seems the range is much longer than 150 meters.
@erhangok7119 please watch more recent videos. We are now using and recommending different modules. This project is constantly improving and we constantly recommending new modules and hardware. Subscribe to keep up to date. Cheers mate!😊🍻
It’s on the video description. You can use anything you want! From Raspberry Pi+android device or Jetson Nano to an x86 laptop! As long as it can decode the h265 video you are good. In theory you could use a Pi4 to decode h265 but that’s a topic for another video. Stay tuned mate! Cheers!😊🍻
Image output the "Xm 1080P Ip Camera Module Sony Imx307Lqr" that you linked in the description states "Main stream: 1920*1080@25fps;" in the spec, how do you establish which boards are capable of 60fps?
These specs are with the stock firmware. OpenIPC was created to improve the performance of this cheap hardware. I have already mentioned this in the video. Cheers mate!🍻😊
@@mariofpv I understand that you were able to achieve 720p@50fps and 1080p(@50fps?) but my question is how did you know that the camera could achieve this prior to purchasing it?
@@mariofpv OK, I'll ask them. I've found some hisilicon based ip cameras with better sensors, I.e much better low light, so I'll ask them if they're compatible. Id love to use a ColorVu camera but I can't find any info about the processor or sensor.
Yes you can use 5G modem but it’s in experimental mode at the moment. The components are quite standard 7-8 inch quadcopter parts. Have a look at the video description. The full list is in my previous videos. Cheers mate!😊🍻
As a means to test latency, camera to transmitter to receiver to monitor, camera watching the monitor and something else moving at a known rate. The lag between the moving object direct image and the second order image of the monitor should reflect latency. A complication is the rolling shutter effect.
@@DresdenFPV Potentially. rough calculations, one scan line at 720 lines, 30 frames/s is about 46 us. about 22 scan lines/ms. If the clock updates every ms it would be very easy for the image to roll across several ticks of the clock. And it gets worse at 60 frames/s. A binary bar code time display could be used so time information can be captured in a single scan line, also showing the passage of time across scan lines.
Joshua Bardwell measures it by aiming the fpv camera at a led light, then filming the fpv goggles and the light using a gopro or iphone or something able to record at 240 FPS. Turn the light on, count the frames until the light turns on in the goggles. That gives you a good enough idea of total system latency, especially for the high latencies I fear this system will produce.
Yes, I feel the video feed follows the controller sticks. I honestly can’t feel any delay. I might feel it if I start flying freestyle, flips and rolls. I will post more videos in the future. Cheers mate!😊🍻
We were able to go 55km. No latency tests yet but they will be in future videos. I’m planning to test every aspect of this new software so stay tuned. Cheers mate!🍻😊
There are some modules that have SD card slot but you need to add some extra code for that. That’s the benefit of an open source project: unlimited possibilities! Cheers mate!😊🍻
This is the cheapest ALL-IN-ONE FPV solution in the world. Video+telemetry+RC. It’s an entry point solution, something to start without spending a lot of money and if you enjoy the digital FPV experience then you can upgrade. Cheers mate!😊🍻
This seems like an awesome option for low budget entry level digital system. Any chances for using Android phone as VRX? It could be put into some cheap VR goggles for more immersive flight. Also, could you link some resources more related to FPV usage of openIPC?
Yes it’s possible but you will need a PiZero as receiver of the data. Then you need to tether the Android phone and do the decoding on the Android device. You can even use H265 encoding because the PiZero will just act as a forwarder. The h265 decoding will happen on the Android device. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Yes it is. I added OSD telemetry on the VDEC and I also created the simpleOSD python app. I haven’t published it yet because there are so many things coming out every day. OpenIPC is the Next Big Thing in the FPV community. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Cool! But Looks like it needs some more tcodec tuning and try to change the lens, i think this 1.7 is too much wide, maybe 2.5 is capture less objects and it will be possible to raise codec quality)) Cheers bro!😊
The antenna tracker helps pointing accurately to the plane. So if you manage to do that manually you can have the maximum range of your antenna. With a large patch antenna you could go really far. Cheers mate!😊🍻
has anyone played with the PTZ CCTV modules with IVG-G5S and a 36x zoom lens which aliexpress is selling for €73? They look small and light enough for a cheap 3-axis gimbal designed for action cams...
Seems like a very cool thing to put on a gimbal on my future plane. What do you use on the receiver end? And is there a possibility of having osd in the somewhat near future? The craziest thing is that it seems to be cheaper than any analogue setup
Yeap, those cameras are actually sold on motorised gimbals( CCTV cams) but we have repurposed them for FPV! For receiver you have many options: 1. Raspberry Pi running WFB-ng 2. Raspberry Pi tethered to an Android phone. Android phone will decode the video with QGroundStation 3. Any laptop/computer x86 and a 32GB USB stick. I have uploaded a video tutorial about this. Search in the video description of that video for the USB LIVE STICK image. Burn it on a 32GB USB stick and boot from there. No need installation of anything! 4. Jetson Nano There is full OSD already. I just wanted to post this video without OSD to focus on the video quality. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Can you film using another camera behind you goggles/video feed viewer and wave your hand standing in front of this camera so that we can see the latency via frame rate?
Example.. If you have a receiver for video feed to the goggles (I personally like the idea of a ground station as less radiation near the head lol) but it could be used to receive telemetry (as you've already shown) and merely passed by blue tooth from goggles to the hand held radio controller as it is always going to be in close proximity to goggles because the pilot has the controller in his hands and googles on his head! (Note I wouldn't do it the other way around because you would be creating a hypothetical bottleneck risking the video feed streaming via Bluetooth naturally).
Has anyone thought about googles. I was thinking of passing it through the laptop to an HDMI If it works as an output, and then into googles as HDMI in. Latency would probably become an issue. Any thoughts??? Great video and great to see. 👍👍
For nowI have tested h264 and h265. I saw in the settings there are more options but I didn’t have the time to try them. Probably in future videos we’ll go through all the options. The development started a few months ago so it’s in early stage. But this project is very promising. Stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@mariofpv this looks great, is there any information on the web on how to connect the Camera and the WIFI module, I've read the OpenIPC information and bought the Camera and Wifi modules you recommend in the description, they arrived today so I'm almost ready to go! I was hoping to connect to the WIFI network and stream using a VR headset (after all its just an android device) and just web-browse to the IP stream, not sure on the gain of the headset wifi module but its worth a try for a super high quality video display. Any help would be much appreciated. All the best Barry M
But I’m showing in this video how to connect the camera to the WiFi module. Please watch it again and let me know if you have any questions. We use WFB-ng, not a regular WiFi network. For more information about WFB-ng join our Telegram channel. There are so many things that it’s hard to explain everything in a post. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@mariofpv so do I need a special WiFi dongle at the laptop too? Or can I get a laptop / android app that will decode the special WiFi protocol with a generic WiFi module? I'll join the telegram but don't have time right now... Many thanks 👍
If i decided myself 😜 I have a s1100 on wich i didn't know what to put about vtx.. now i know. 😅 I can't wait for the hardware tutorial.. What do you mean with "no latency" ? (Do you know how many ms ?) 👍
I haven’t done any freestyle yet but all I can tell is that when I move very fast the controller sticks I have instant response on the video feed. So for a regular flight the latency is low enough. For your fixed wing it would be ideal! And by the way, this video was the hardware tutorial. Yes, it’s that simple! 6 wires connected to the camera! 4 for the USB and 2 for the telemetry! There will be a software tutorial soon. Cheers mate!😊🍻
This system is the king of long range digital FPV systems. The WFB firmware, which is running inside the OpenIPC cameras, holds the world’s FPV longest range record of 100+km! Sadly, the UAV never made it back home because on the way back it was left out of battery. So it crashed. Cheers mate!😊🍻
man i tried to connect this up and the pads come off the pcb so easy - be careful.. Anyone know where i can get D+ & D- other than the pads shown in the video?
I'm looking to build a long range FPV car in the near future, could this system be good for that? It's an entirely different world of mostly penetration, going around building and stuff. I feel like walksnail or hdzero would both struggle. I don't have any experience with digital FPV currently.
there is a reason nobody is doing this. one esp32 with a de-auth script and bye bye video link. Search long range test for all the major players (analog, HDZero, Walksnail.) good long range video is more about the receiving antennas than the modulation.
@@ericapelz260we tried to break this FPV system but we were unsuccessful. The encryption is very strong and this makes it very reliable link for long range FPV. Cheers!😊🍻
@@ericapelz260 pretty much every long range test on TH-cam for video link is flying. I love fpv quads but I want to build an FPV ground vehicle, where the requirements are different. I can't find a good source of information for which system and setup would be 100% the best for a relatively long range car on the ground
Yes of course. I’m actually flying that way! The experience is more immersive. You can use any device to use as a Ground station and connect your FPV goggles. The available options are Raspberry Pi or Jetson Nano or any x86 laptop (with good GPU for low latency) or even an Android TV BOX! Cheers mate!😊🍻
Intriguing. I really wish you would quantify "low latency" though. Most security cameras, afaik, have like 3-500 ms latency even on ethernet, simply because they need a bunch of frames before they can efficiently compress h26x. 100s of milliseconds might be ok for monitoring an autonomously flying drone, but is basically unusable for any sort of dynamic or hand flying, ie "FPV flying". DJI and Walksnail digital FPV systems are in the 20-30 ms glass to goggle range and you will find plenty of pilots complaining about that, thats why we with have hdzero with 3ms. So Ill believe "low latency" when I see it. That said, cant argue with the price, and I have to admit the camera looks great. It would look even better if your quad was a little better tuned :)
I know, the tuning is awful but I have to blame Ardupilot for that.lol I wasn’t feeling it 300ms at all. I think it was around 100ms or even less, I can’t tell for sure. There are some discussions today with the developers and they showed us in a photo latency 50ms with tweaked settings. Everything is new and the project is under heavy development. I will make my own testings as well in future videos. Stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv 50ms would make it viable I think. Its still going to be too high for many, but I suspect I could live with that, and most non "pro" freestyle/race pilots could too. But I would be surprised. Especially at only 60FPS. 60 FPS is 16.6ms per frame, and 50ms would give you a maximum of 3 frames in the buffer, assuming there is no other additional latency anywhere, and I dont think you can get very efficient h26x encoding with just 3 frames. Would love to be proven wrong though!
Great work!!! Are there plans to enable encryption for the signal ? How about using an android tablet or phone as reciever ? Will it be possible? I love this projekt. 🔥
Open source for the win. Less reasons to use the closed loop proprietary systems, this can only be a good thing. Nothing drives innovation like competition .
I haven’t done any latency test but all I can tell is that when I move the sticks on my controller I don’t have any delay on the video feed. I will start doing some freestyle rolls and flips in the next videos. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Hopefully this will become the elrs of digital fpv systems. A cheap yet powerful alternative to other systems out there. All the best🤙
That’s the plan. Cheap hardware open source. Digital FPV system available for all! Cheers mate!🍻😊
I agree, though not so much for price. What makes ELRS so great, isnt so much the price. In fact, I just bought a ELRS module that I think cost me more than a crossfire module would. Whats great about it, is that its not proprietary. I can buy receivers and modules and flight controllers from any brand, and it will just work. I can do whatever the heck I want with it, and whatever the heck someone else with coding skills wants to implement. It will keep working and being supported and available long after whatever brand I bought it from, went bankrupt. As someone looking to buy his first digital FPV system, the one thing holding me back is not so much the price, its the fact I have to choose a proprietary system that locks me in. I want an O3 system in my bigger quads for the image quality/recording and range, a lightweight hdzero for microquads, I might even want a walksnail v2 pro for night flying. What I dont want is 3 (very) expensive goggles, only 1 or 2 of which offer diopter adjustments, some that may or may not support betaflight OSD, or analog in, or let me adjust aspect ratio, and with no guarantees they will work with the next release, or with the risk that one of them goes bankrupt or something. Its a complete mess.
I have some really good news. The OpenIPC developers were able to achieve 30-40ms latency with a camera that costs 40-50$! They used 120fps 720p resolution. OpenIPC is open source. As you explained very well, you buy the hardware once and you will have the open source updates for ever. No proprietary bullshits. You would need a set of goggles with HDMI input for the ground station. Choose whichever you want, it doesn’t matter as long as there is an HDMI input.
@vertigo2893 totally agree, but for me personally when I was switching from flysky ( ew i know ) I was either gonna go with elrs or crossfire. The key deciding factor was that it was cheaper compared to crossfire due to a lot of manufacturers. But the most important thing was its availability. I remember when I was looking for crossfire modules I couldn't find one new in stock anywhere. Whereas elrs was a completely different story. I really hope the devs will go down this very open source route cause crossfire was a pain to find modules and receivers for. I agree with what you're saying 👍
@@mariofpv 30-40ms is excellent news indeed. Im still sceptical using such cheap "off the shelve" hardware (and fairly old hardware at that) + old existent compression and networking protocols would yield a result thats as good (if not better) than what DJI can do after decades of R&D and spending billions on custom silicon and tweaking protocols. I know a bit of what DJI does on image sensors (the ones they dont buy from Sony) and video processing, and trust me when I say, its not something you want to compete with unless you have really deep pockets.
So all this sounds a bit like mashing up a 10 year old android phone and using an arduino gyro, and making a better gopro than gopro. If its true, then its true, and it would be awesome, but please send something to Joshua Bardwell or something for early testing.
Great video Mario as always, waiting for a great tutorial on OpenIPC firmware flashing, thanks for your work.
I started creating it already. Will be available soon. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv i'll for it.. cooll
Stumbled across some of the original code years and years ago and have been lurking ever since. It is crazy to see where y'all have gotten since then. Have not yet tried OpenIPC, need to get on that. I was running OpenHD until I busted my pi and prices are just too high for me to keep experimenting. Was never super happy with the latency in OpenHD, even when flying fixed wing, so I am super happy to see you continuing to push it down.
More videos coming soon so stay tuned. OpenIPC is the next big thing! Cheers mate!🍻😊
Would be interesting to see a cheap, open source competitor to other HD FPV video systems, like HDZero, DJI, and Walksnail, however the main hurdle with this seems to be latency, as you say in the description that you have latency "as low as" 50ms, whereas a system like DJI averages 30-40ms, and that's considered a little high. If that latency could be lowered at least 10ms more, this would get a lot of people's attention. Seems worth keeping an eye on.
True. When it's all just being done by people in their spare time on equipment not really made for it, it's still impressive though.
DJI is what you want for freestyle or racing. Lowest latency. But it cuts you off with range. This doesn't, and for those of us who like long distance fixed wing, it's acceptable.
@@guerrillaradio9953 DJI has lowest latency? That's not true, HDZero has the lowest latency out of the four digital systems and is lower than even analog. Not sure if you mean DJI or digital.
@@xxxplode5999 Yeah, HD Zero or maybe Walksnail in future, never DJI.
Did I miss something? What goggles are they using to receive the signal?
@@xxxplode5999 How is lower latency than analog even supposed to be possible, where pixels are transmitted then displayed pretty much as they are scanned? Lower than analog transmission viewed on a digital display I can see, but that's not all analog.
Great work 👏 I think When flying fast or manoeuvering, the 720p@50 resolution will be enough since the delay will be more important.
But it will be nice to switch between 720p and 1080p for sightseeing.
Exactly what I thought! Have two options on a controller switch and depending on the situation use them! This is brilliant! Cheers mate!😊🍻
I'd really love to have a free/open alternative to those closed source systems. So finally something I'd prefer over analog NTSC/PAL-Video. But as others already said: latency is THE main problem with FPV. Quality/Range isn't nearly as important.
The latency of this FPV system is low enough for long range flights unless you are planning to do some freestyle crazy tricks 50km away. Cheers mate!😊🍻
although I agree with the sentiment here, HDZero is amazing, and open-source project in the same time. It would be great to support them as well.
I totally agree, but HDZERO doesn’t cost 50$, all included, right? The point of this new system is to offer to EVERYONE the chance of getting into digital FPV. It’s an entry level system. Cheers mate!😊🍻
I dont understand why no one (afaik) ever tried analog HD. For most FPV pilots, analog has some fundamental advantages over digital video, like latency and the way the signal degrades. Obviously PAL and NTSC are pretty limiting in their resolution but there are open standards for (analog) HDTV.
@@AlexLebed I havent personally tried hdzero yet, but from what Ive seen, its very far from amazing. The way the signal breaks up makes it almost unflyable unless you have a really strong signal, and the range/penetration is at best underwhelming. Im still sticking to analog SD for my light or cheap builds, and I feel like I have no choice other than DJI or walksnail for larger builds with digital FPV. Especially since I dont think 30-ish ms latency is a big problem. Stroboscopic flashing and full screen rainbows at even short distances is a bigger problem to me.
Thank you for sharing, it can be really helpful!
I have some questions, if you don't mind:
1) Why does camera FOV change back and forth throughout the video?
2) When using any of those systems, is video signal encrypted, or can anybody with right setup pick up your video, like with analog video transmission?
1) In the 1080p the sensor is in native mode and 30fps. In the 720p the sensor is in binning mode and 50fps. That’s why the FOV is changing.
2) Yes the video is encrypted and no one else can decode it unless you share the ground station key (gs.key).
Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Wow, you replied so fast! Thanks again mate!
This is absolutely great! Would love to see companies make a plug and play hardware for these.
Our head developer has already announced it and it’s in our plans as organisation. OpenIPC plug and play kit in coming soon! Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv that's great to hear. Good luck to you guys! Following this project.
Well done Chaps, 1080p all day please,
Don't forget some sort of osd please.
Keep going!!
Yes there is OSD I just thought to focus on the video quality. I prefer 1080p too. I used QGroundStation that has full OSD + a lovely map that has a mode which you can “click and fly” on that location! Cheers mate!😊🍻
QOpenHD at android or linux work too
I love that fpv has come full circle and board cameras are once again being used lol. Can't wait to see how this evolves
This project is quite new, 4-5 months old! So expect amazing development soon. Stay tuned because I will be covering all the updates. Cheers mate!🍻😊
I still have a drawer full of those old analog board cams...
Same, this is really exciting and it feels like FPV in 2014 when we were playing around with different freqs and setups.
A really cheap HD system is what we need. Thank you!
It would be great to see a night flight with the InfraRed funcion turned on.
Sure. It’s in my plans. Cheers mate!😊🍻
I am very curious to know what board "ColorVu - Low-Light Imaging" cameras use and wether they would support OpenIPC.
are there goggles that are compatible...you're using a laptop for a display? What's the lag and range like? Love being able to disable the ircut filter for nightflying that's insane actually.
You can use any FPV goggles with HDMI input.
You can use any x86 laptop or a Raspberry Pi or a Jetson Nano or even an Android TV Box as a receiver.
The IRCUT function is awesome and I have it available on a controller switch!
More functions are coming soon. Stay tuned!
Cheers mate!😊🍻
Great Video! Of course 1080p looks way better, but for me it depends on how bad the latency will be. i wanted to build a Wifibroadcast Drone since I stumbled over you channel a year ago, but the Pi's were always sold out. Maybe this will be my chance!
Just for understanding: You do send the controll signals over the Wifibroadcast Link directly to the FC, or do you have a seperate Radio Link for steering?
I’m sending the control MAVLINK commands directly to the flight controller. What you see in this video is the only hardware I used for this quadcopter. The OpenIPC is cheap AF! Forget the expensive Raspberry Pi! Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Great! I think you have conviced me! I'll order the parts soon
Srry if I missed it during the video, but do you have a recomendation of what size lense I should buy witht the camera? Which one did you buy?@@mariofpv
Hows the penetration thru trees or vuildings in the way
We tried to fly behind a house and it was fine. Behind the trees was also fine. We started having glitches and breakups when we tried to go behind trees while the quadcopter was far away, more than 1km. The link that OpenIPC is using is called WFB-ng. Search for more TH-cam videos on this. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Looks promising. Biggest issue that stood out to me is that changing the resolution is changing your FOV(crops in the video) instead of changing the compression. Definitely not an insignificant change.
What's the end to end latency at?
The developers made some tests with some high end OpenIPC cameras and they had around 50ms latency with tweaked settings. I haven’t done any tests yet but it’s in my plans. I’m using a low-end camera (£12) in this quadcopter so I might need to upgrade. The high-end cameras start at £50 which is a reasonable price. Yes, the resolution change is done by cropping method which is something I was expecting for a hardware that costs only £12. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Great work all! Mario just looking at your recommended camera link and noted in the feedback from someone...
"Attention! This camera cannot be stitched with openipc, the loader is not stitched, at least through a burn, you will only have to use a programmer. The seller does not give U-Boot password. Better buy from another seller. Attention! This camera cannot be flashed with openipc, the bootloader is not flashed, at least through burn, you will only have to use a programmer. The seller does not give the U-Boot password. Better buy from another seller."
your thoughts on this, Thankyou
My answer is this video that I posted… cheers mate!😊🍻
Hello Mario, I have reacquainted myself with this technique. Can you please guide me where to start?
Promising. Hope it continues to develop and increase video quality. Looks like 720p is just a cropped 1080p image?
You should see the newest camera. Check out my latest video. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Which lens did you get with your module? There's a wide variety from like 1.7mm to 8mm. Not sure which one could work out best, or did you have your own lens to attach?
I have the 1.7mm but you could choose the 2.6mm depending on what you want for FOV. Cheers mate!😊🍻
It's getting better by the day. What is the expected range on decent latency for fixed wing flying (High that is)?
The maximum range is 120 kilometres with large patch antennas on the ground station.
Nice! What was the range confirmed in line of sight?
I can confirm that the range is 55km. We used large patch antennas. There have been reliable reports by other pilots that they flew 120km! Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Thanks for answering so quickly! Wow! Awesome range.
This is very cool. been hoping something would happen to improve on what openhd has been stalled with. on the subject of resolution they both look good and i think if you had props out of view it would all improve as well because those spinning props are eating up a lot of bandwidth. mount the camera in place of a gopro on the battery plate it'll get the props mostly out of view.
I’m planning to build a quadcopter with a “deadcat” frame to remove the props out of view. You are right. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv highly recommend the source one v3 with 7" deadcat arms from cncmadness in 7mm thick carbon. its like $55 and just works perfectly hardly have to do any tuning since the frame doesn't have any resonance issues.
Amazing job! I'm an analog and dji user and if this got to the right direction it could be a real game changer!
Yeap. It’s in early stages of development and it is already looking pretty promising. I’ll keep the FPV community updated. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Unfortunately this camera is no longer available on AliExpress and the similar cameras that they recommend have a different board layout with no apparent place to solder in the programming wires.
I know, thanks to my video they sold them all. You will find new links in the OpenIPC wiki. Also search for the SSC338Q IMX415. It can do 120fps with very low latency. Cheers mate!😊🍻
This looks so cool! I really wonder the latency could you put stick movements on the next video?
Yes on the next videos I will do that. Cheers mate!😊🍻
That IR cut filter on a switch is 💯 never seen that before
Wait to see the more advanced features. New video coming soon. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Wow, great video!!! Thank you so much.
Which camera lens you would suggest, there are 1,7 / 2,8 / 3,6 / 6 / 8mm
I am using the 1,7 in this video. I wouldn’t suggest anything above 2,8mm because the FOV get too small and you would want to have an immersive FPV experience, right? Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv thx
Nice setup, is there OSD ? Or any information about battery voltage ?
Yes there is full OSD info from the MAVLINK telemetry. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Very nice. I must try this :D Thanks for your work on this project
Is 720p just a crop of 1080p? Is downsampling possible?
At 720p you have 2 options:
1) sensor crop and 50fps
2) full sensor and 30fps
Cheers mate!😊🍻
Would love to see this take off and get manufacturers like tbs and foxeer making off the shelf solutions in the same way analog used to be done
That’d be awesome. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Whats the blue board the telemetry wires are running to?
Can you be more specific? Maybe a time stamp would help.
@@mariofpv nevermind I figured it out it was the flight controller I'm still new to all of this but I want to learn. I already ordered the camera and the two wifi modules I was wondering what else I needed to make just a working table top version of this that would help me understand it all more before I put it on a wing or drone. Am I able to make this whole system work with out a flight controller or is that needed?
@MarioFPV the Wifi module you link to on AliE looks like USB-A, but in your video, on your quad, I see something that looks like USB-C to me. Unfortunately you don't show the Wifi module being plugged into the quad. Could you kindly clarify?
Also, *any* laptop? Looking at the wfb-ng README, it seems it specifically and only supports the RTL8812au chipset. And the module you like is AR9271-based, so I'm still assuming that's the VTX, so your video description's buying links should be expanded by a RTL8812au module...? I think I might be lucky myself, having an unused TP-Link Archer T4U lying around which should sport that chipset. Alfa AWUS036ACH seems like the (only?) proper choice though, especiall for LRing, since it has diversity & SMA connectors ootb. That's a whopping 60 bucks though.
Please watch the new videos. There are many answers to your questions that I have already included in those videos with details and links to buy. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Whoopsiedaisies! My bad! Thanks and cheers, mate! :)
I just hope you guys have tested the video encoder on these cameras and how well it handles high motion.
It looks to me that from the footage your showing the encoder is not coping well at all with the sort motion you can expect during flight.
I hate to dissuade people but its important that for an open source to be a success that you dont cripple yourselves by using really weak encoding hardware.
Most android phones that people throw away have at least 264 hardware encoders built into the powerful arm soc.
The developers have created a new binary called gkrcparams that we can modify ANY parameter in the encoder. This means we now need to tweak the encoder of the IP Camera and make it usable for FPV applications. Stay tuned for more updates as I will be covering the upcoming releases. Cheers mate!😊🍻
hi there . the 1,7 mm lens offers the widest angle please ? looks like an eyefish lens. please reply as planning to use this as a door camera
Yes the 1,7mm has the widest FOV. It has a lot of distortion (fisheye effect) but for FPV view it’s ideal. I would prefer it a bit less wide to be honest. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Are the yellow and blue wires the same Rx and Tx port needed to attach UART?
Yes. Connect them to a UART of your flight controller. Then setup your FC firmware to output MAVLINK. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Hi! I have not tried OpenIPC yet but i was wondering what makes the range is so long? How did you set up the antenna in your ground station? What kind of wifi router you are using in your ground station? I assume you apply so much power for this much range for connection.
Welcome to the channel. There are so many things you need to learn. Start reading from here:
github.com/svpcom/wfb-ng
Then read here:
github.com/OpenIPC/wiki/blob/master/en/fpv.md
Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Thank you. I have another question. The wifi transmitter link you gave in description says it has the range of 150 meters. Did you use it on the ground station too or just on the drone? What was the antennas? In the video it seems the range is much longer than 150 meters.
@erhangok7119 please watch more recent videos. We are now using and recommending different modules. This project is constantly improving and we constantly recommending new modules and hardware. Subscribe to keep up to date. Cheers mate!😊🍻
awesome, what about reception, any computer or phone does the job?
It’s on the video description. You can use anything you want! From Raspberry Pi+android device or Jetson Nano to an x86 laptop! As long as it can decode the h265 video you are good. In theory you could use a Pi4 to decode h265 but that’s a topic for another video. Stay tuned mate! Cheers!😊🍻
Image output
the "Xm 1080P Ip Camera Module Sony Imx307Lqr" that you linked in the description states "Main stream: 1920*1080@25fps;" in the spec, how do you establish which boards are capable of 60fps?
These specs are with the stock firmware. OpenIPC was created to improve the performance of this cheap hardware. I have already mentioned this in the video. Cheers mate!🍻😊
@@mariofpv I understand that you were able to achieve 720p@50fps and 1080p(@50fps?) but my question is how did you know that the camera could achieve this prior to purchasing it?
The OpenIPC devs said that. Actually that’s why I bought it.
@@mariofpv OK, I'll ask them. I've found some hisilicon based ip cameras with better sensors, I.e much better low light, so I'll ask them if they're compatible.
Id love to use a ColorVu camera but I can't find any info about the processor or sensor.
What kind of range you would expect from your setup you mentioned above. Without any tracking device, just facing the drone.
totaly hyped right now
got my ansers in you other video ... "did 55km ... " Thx !
Cheers mate!😊🍻
excited for this to keep getting better!! THANK YOU for your hard work
Cheers mate!😊🍻
Is there any videos about the VRX used? Is it possible to run it with analog googles like the walksnail vrx?
Yes I have posted a video for the VRX. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Hi, great video, fantastic job, but what the maximum distance that you can fly, before you lost the video signal?
100km+ is possible. Other pilots did that, not me. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Thanks
Is it 5g WiFi? What are the components you used ? Thanks
Yes you can use 5G modem but it’s in experimental mode at the moment. The components are quite standard 7-8 inch quadcopter parts. Have a look at the video description. The full list is in my previous videos. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Don't think this beats sliced bread yet..But does get the gears turning for potential! Great job guys..
The development started a few months ago so yes it’s in early stages. New updates are coming soon so stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
As a means to test latency, camera to transmitter to receiver to monitor, camera watching the monitor and something else moving at a known rate. The lag between the moving object direct image and the second order image of the monitor should reflect latency. A complication is the rolling shutter effect.
you could make "the thing moving at known rate" be a very fast display showing milliseconds.
@@DresdenFPV Potentially. rough calculations, one scan line at 720 lines, 30 frames/s is about 46 us. about 22 scan lines/ms. If the clock updates every ms it would be very easy for the image to roll across several ticks of the clock. And it gets worse at 60 frames/s.
A binary bar code time display could be used so time information can be captured in a single scan line, also showing the passage of time across scan lines.
Joshua Bardwell measures it by aiming the fpv camera at a led light, then filming the fpv goggles and the light using a gopro or iphone or something able to record at 240 FPS. Turn the light on, count the frames until the light turns on in the goggles. That gives you a good enough idea of total system latency, especially for the high latencies I fear this system will produce.
i love that this project exists.
This is the way
Cheers mate!😊🍻
great job! We are all waiting for your tutorials! Hope its coming soon ❤
More coming soon. Cheers mate!😊🍻
What is the ground receiver?
Please ignore this very old outdated video. We now use Radxa Zero 3w. Please watch my latest videos for the latest updates. Cheers mate!😊🍻
What are you using for the vrx?
Please have a look at the video description under the Ground Station section. Cheers mate!😊🍻
2:50 That blue wire is definitely blue not purple!
Haha ok you got me mate. Yes it’s blue. Cheers mate!😄🍻
This is awesome! thank you so much for your work! we need more of this!
Cheers mate!😊🍻
Very nice, how do you feel about the video latency? do you feel that you are connected to the aircraft seamlessly? Thanks.
Yes, I feel the video feed follows the controller sticks. I honestly can’t feel any delay. I might feel it if I start flying freestyle, flips and rolls. I will post more videos in the future. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Very promising work. Thanks.
Great effort. 👍 the 1080p is pretty sweet.
Cheers mate!😊🍻
what power and how far did you go? latency?
We were able to go 55km.
No latency tests yet but they will be in future videos. I’m planning to test every aspect of this new software so stay tuned. Cheers mate!🍻😊
Is there any way that in the future i will be able to record the footage internally just like the o3 air unit?
There are some modules that have SD card slot but you need to add some extra code for that. That’s the benefit of an open source project: unlimited possibilities! Cheers mate!😊🍻
Can you use the wifi module to transfer raw data only instead of video? want to transfer data at 10-11Mbps
Yes, you can do this with WFB-ng and two x86 Linux computers. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Any idea how? I am going through the github of WFB-ng but can't figure out how to do so.
Would this work with a starlight 5x optical zoom ip cam?
Depends on the camera model. If you give the camera link I can advise you accordingly. Cheers mate!😊🍻
So, is this the new ELRS in the video world? :) We all hope it is. Good luck to you all. we are cheering for you.
This is the cheapest ALL-IN-ONE FPV solution in the world. Video+telemetry+RC. It’s an entry point solution, something to start without spending a lot of money and if you enjoy the digital FPV experience then you can upgrade. Cheers mate!😊🍻
This seems like an awesome option for low budget entry level digital system. Any chances for using Android phone as VRX? It could be put into some cheap VR goggles for more immersive flight. Also, could you link some resources more related to FPV usage of openIPC?
Yes it’s possible but you will need a PiZero as receiver of the data. Then you need to tether the Android phone and do the decoding on the Android device. You can even use H265 encoding because the PiZero will just act as a forwarder. The h265 decoding will happen on the Android device. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Я использовал маленький телефон андроид и программу растдеск 4g. Для управления дроном. С помощью нее я подключал к дрону камеру тепловизор отг.)
How is the latency?
New video coming soon with latency test so stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Is it possible to get telemetrie and Home to working?
Yes it is. I added OSD telemetry on the VDEC and I also created the simpleOSD python app. I haven’t published it yet because there are so many things coming out every day. OpenIPC is the Next Big Thing in the FPV community. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Cool! But Looks like it needs some more tcodec tuning and try to change the lens, i think this 1.7 is too much wide, maybe 2.5 is capture less objects and it will be possible to raise codec quality)) Cheers bro!😊
Yeap. A lot of tweaking coming up on next videos. Stay tuned for the updates. Cheers mate!😊🍻
what a great alternative for a fix wing, what's the range without a tracker?
The antenna tracker helps pointing accurately to the plane. So if you manage to do that manually you can have the maximum range of your antenna. With a large patch antenna you could go really far. Cheers mate!😊🍻
has anyone played with the PTZ CCTV modules with IVG-G5S and a 36x zoom lens which aliexpress is selling for €73? They look small and light enough for a cheap 3-axis gimbal designed for action cams...
Seems like a very cool thing to put on a gimbal on my future plane.
What do you use on the receiver end? And is there a possibility of having osd in the somewhat near future?
The craziest thing is that it seems to be cheaper than any analogue setup
Yeap, those cameras are actually sold on motorised gimbals( CCTV cams) but we have repurposed them for FPV! For receiver you have many options:
1. Raspberry Pi running WFB-ng
2. Raspberry Pi tethered to an Android phone. Android phone will decode the video with QGroundStation
3. Any laptop/computer x86 and a 32GB USB stick. I have uploaded a video tutorial about this. Search in the video description of that video for the USB LIVE STICK image. Burn it on a 32GB USB stick and boot from there. No need installation of anything!
4. Jetson Nano
There is full OSD already. I just wanted to post this video without OSD to focus on the video quality. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpvdamn, looks like I'm sold. Especially as an open source lover. I'm guessing that it can go like 20km with a helical antenna, right?
Easily can go 20km. How many loops do you have on your antenna?
@@mariofpv I don't have an antenna yet since I didn't have a need for directional 2.4 antennas, but I would probably go for 5-7
how does this work? Theres no wifi in that random field? is it using celluar data?
There are links in the video description that have all the information you need to know. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv Thanks
i would like to see some more range and pen tests
Yeap, in future videos. Stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Amazing work! Sooo, 100km... really? What frequency is this system working on?
2.4GHz or 5.8GHz bands. Cheers mate!🍻😊
How much latency it has?
I haven’t done any latency test yet. It’s a new FPV system and I’m planning to test everything. Stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Can you film using another camera behind you goggles/video feed viewer and wave your hand standing in front of this camera so that we can see the latency via frame rate?
Yes, will do that in future videos. I’ll ask my wife to video record me while flying. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Example.. If you have a receiver for video feed to the goggles (I personally like the idea of a ground station as less radiation near the head lol) but it could be used to receive telemetry (as you've already shown) and merely passed by blue tooth from goggles to the hand held radio controller as it is always going to be in close proximity to goggles because the pilot has the controller in his hands and googles on his head!
(Note I wouldn't do it the other way around because you would be creating a hypothetical bottleneck risking the video feed streaming via Bluetooth naturally).
Has anyone thought about googles. I was thinking of passing it through the laptop to an HDMI If it works as an output, and then into googles as HDMI in. Latency would probably become an issue. Any thoughts??? Great video and great to see. 👍👍
Would AV1 support be possible?
For nowI have tested h264 and h265. I saw in the settings there are more options but I didn’t have the time to try them. Probably in future videos we’ll go through all the options. The development started a few months ago so it’s in early stage. But this project is very promising. Stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@mariofpv this looks great, is there any information on the web on how to connect the Camera and the WIFI module, I've read the OpenIPC information and bought the Camera and Wifi modules you recommend in the description, they arrived today so I'm almost ready to go! I was hoping to connect to the WIFI network and stream using a VR headset (after all its just an android device) and just web-browse to the IP stream, not sure on the gain of the headset wifi module but its worth a try for a super high quality video display.
Any help would be much appreciated.
All the best
Barry M
But I’m showing in this video how to connect the camera to the WiFi module. Please watch it again and let me know if you have any questions. We use WFB-ng, not a regular WiFi network. For more information about WFB-ng join our Telegram channel. There are so many things that it’s hard to explain everything in a post. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@mariofpv so do I need a special WiFi dongle at the laptop too? Or can I get a laptop / android app that will decode the special WiFi protocol with a generic WiFi module? I'll join the telegram but don't have time right now... Many thanks 👍
Excellent Mario !
Thank you for all the support! You are a blessed person! 😊🙏
Would love to see this on a wing for testing also! Great work! Keep it coming.
Cheers mate! We have already done that and the max range we did was 55km. There are records of 100+ km from other pilots. Cheers mate!🍻😊
@@mariofpv 55km, 100+ km of Video link? This sounds amazing! What kind of antennas are being used? Where can I find more hardware details?
What glasses is this compatible with?
Any goggles with HDMI input. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Can we get a parts list for the air and ground units?
For the air unit they are in the video description. For the ground station there is a TH-cam video link in the video description. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Awesome!!! what is real range tested?
WFB-ng which is included in OpenIPC has a maximum range of 120 kilometres with big patch antennas on the ground station. Cheers mate!😊🍻
If i decided myself 😜 I have a s1100 on wich i didn't know what to put about vtx.. now i know. 😅
I can't wait for the hardware tutorial..
What do you mean with "no latency" ? (Do you know how many ms ?)
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I haven’t done any freestyle yet but all I can tell is that when I move very fast the controller sticks I have instant response on the video feed. So for a regular flight the latency is low enough. For your fixed wing it would be ideal! And by the way, this video was the hardware tutorial. Yes, it’s that simple! 6 wires connected to the camera! 4 for the USB and 2 for the telemetry! There will be a software tutorial soon. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv sorry, i would mean the software tutorial 😁
Yeap. I’m on it mate. Will be published soon!😊
@@mariofpvin your Aliexpress link you recommend camera without lense.. what lense do you recommend ? Is that 1.7mm that i see ?
Exactly what type of camera is? What lens?
The link is in the video description mate. You will find the full specs. Cheers!😊🍻
@@mariofpv I saw this. But, they have different lens.
This is a wonderful discovery , please put some more detail ¡ Congratulations
I’m planning to so please subscribe to not miss them. Cheers mate!😊🍻
What size lens?
I used 1.6mm but there are options to choose in the link that I posted in the video description. Cheers mate!😊🍻
+xjet and +madsrc this looks interesting
Cheers mates!😊🍻
Love it! have you compared its range to existing HD systems?
This system is the king of long range digital FPV systems. The WFB firmware, which is running inside the OpenIPC cameras, holds the world’s FPV longest range record of 100+km! Sadly, the UAV never made it back home because on the way back it was left out of battery. So it crashed. Cheers mate!😊🍻
man i tried to connect this up and the pads come off the pcb so easy - be careful..
Anyone know where i can get D+ & D- other than the pads shown in the video?
Sorry to hear that mate. You should use low temperature and good soldering wire. Maybe ask in the OpenIPC Telegram chat for other pads. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Great. Could you make on next video a fly behind House and tree.
Yes new video coming soon so stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
how would you inject betaflight osd into this?
That would be really challenging. Let’s have a stable version first and then we can do that via MSP inside QOpenHD. I don’t see any other way.
@@mariofpv alright, would there be any 4:3 cameras you would choose? Because I have goggles V2 and they only support 4:3 av in
Its getting smaller and more integrated too.....Looked very windy, as usual here in the UK....😳😮😀🇬🇧
Everything is going to the right direction! Sun will come soon in the UK! Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv I'm sick of waiting for Summer to arrive. ...Worse than last year....🤔😮😳🇬🇧
That's certainly competitive enough to make the big brands sweat. I thought it was going to really suck, but that was actually pretty decent!
This open source FPV system is very new so we will see many awesome things in the near future. Cheers mate!😊🍻
I'm looking to build a long range FPV car in the near future, could this system be good for that? It's an entirely different world of mostly penetration, going around building and stuff. I feel like walksnail or hdzero would both struggle. I don't have any experience with digital FPV currently.
Всем подобным системам очень желательна прямая видимость, если говорить о расстояниях свыше обычного wifi
there is a reason nobody is doing this. one esp32 with a de-auth script and bye bye video link. Search long range test for all the major players (analog, HDZero, Walksnail.) good long range video is more about the receiving antennas than the modulation.
@@ericapelz260we tried to break this FPV system but we were unsuccessful. The encryption is very strong and this makes it very reliable link for long range FPV. Cheers!😊🍻
@@ericapelz260 pretty much every long range test on TH-cam for video link is flying. I love fpv quads but I want to build an FPV ground vehicle, where the requirements are different. I can't find a good source of information for which system and setup would be 100% the best for a relatively long range car on the ground
@@ericapelz260 you don’t know what you’re talking about
this has great potential for camera drones
for freestyle fpv i would still want some lower latency and smaller pcbs
great work
Cheers mate!😊🍻
wow thats come a long way. Is there any way to get the video into an fpv goggle with hdmi?
Yes of course. I’m actually flying that way! The experience is more immersive. You can use any device to use as a Ground station and connect your FPV goggles. The available options are Raspberry Pi or Jetson Nano or any x86 laptop (with good GPU for low latency) or even an Android TV BOX! Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv does it support telemetry say from Aurdupilot etc..?
Any news on range?
It has already mentioned. More than 100km range has been achieved with the WFB link. Cheers mate!😊🍻
Intriguing. I really wish you would quantify "low latency" though. Most security cameras, afaik, have like 3-500 ms latency even on ethernet, simply because they need a bunch of frames before they can efficiently compress h26x. 100s of milliseconds might be ok for monitoring an autonomously flying drone, but is basically unusable for any sort of dynamic or hand flying, ie "FPV flying". DJI and Walksnail digital FPV systems are in the 20-30 ms glass to goggle range and you will find plenty of pilots complaining about that, thats why we with have hdzero with 3ms. So Ill believe "low latency" when I see it. That said, cant argue with the price, and I have to admit the camera looks great. It would look even better if your quad was a little better tuned :)
I know, the tuning is awful but I have to blame Ardupilot for that.lol
I wasn’t feeling it 300ms at all. I think it was around 100ms or even less, I can’t tell for sure. There are some discussions today with the developers and they showed us in a photo latency 50ms with tweaked settings. Everything is new and the project is under heavy development. I will make my own testings as well in future videos. Stay tuned. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv 50ms would make it viable I think. Its still going to be too high for many, but I suspect I could live with that, and most non "pro" freestyle/race pilots could too. But I would be surprised. Especially at only 60FPS. 60 FPS is 16.6ms per frame, and 50ms would give you a maximum of 3 frames in the buffer, assuming there is no other additional latency anywhere, and I dont think you can get very efficient h26x encoding with just 3 frames. Would love to be proven wrong though!
Great work!!! Are there plans to enable encryption for the signal ? How about using an android tablet or phone as reciever ? Will it be possible? I love this projekt. 🔥
The signal is already encrypted!
Yes, you can use an Android TV Box + FPV goggles for receiver.
Cheers mate!😊🍻
Open source for the win. Less reasons to use the closed loop proprietary systems, this can only be a good thing. Nothing drives innovation like competition .
Yeap! This is only good for our hobby. Cheers mate!😊🍻
🙌🏽 wonderful research 😻
Incredible findings Mario!
So stoked on this pivot 💪🏽
Cheers mate!😊🍻
Great job! I will try it for one of my future projects. Thank you!
For £12 you get the camera and the encoder, all-in-on hardware part. This is cheap AF, right? Cheers mate!😊🍻
What kind of latency?
I haven’t done any latency test but all I can tell is that when I move the sticks on my controller I don’t have any delay on the video feed. I will start doing some freestyle rolls and flips in the next videos. Cheers mate!😊🍻
@@mariofpv that’s awesome! Wasn’t sure if it would be capable of freestyle