alexsander471 I cropped a video to where it’s just him for 75 seconds playing the note. You can set the setting to where it replays the video so that it’s a constant stream of this blissful Bb th-cam.com/video/tp5RlA20y5E/w-d-xo.html
being a tuba player, my compliments to you on a very difficult technique. i struggled with circular breathing too, and low range is my bane. time was my best friend, but low range never got easier, or useable . on this excerpt, I'd suggest starting with a little less than your normal full air, so you have to sniff sooner, but you'll have the room sooner too. You won't be tempted to go to far and you'll be able to keep the pitch and tone steadier. The only time, on this video, the pitch dropped noticeably was the first one, when you seemed to wait too long. Otherwise it wasn't noticeable! Try holding water in your mouth, sniff and push the water out. it may help to see the stream. I'm not sure worrying about the back pressure on Bb 0 is that important! Honestly, this is very impressive! do it in a rehearsal, that's the only way to challenge yourself. But you're a professional, you know that stuff. More importantly to a tuba player, how are you related to Roger? The eyes are the giveaway!
As far as I know, I am not related to Roger beyond the fact that almost all US Bobos are descended from Gabriel Beaubau who immigrated to Virginia in the 1680s. But I'd love to be proven wrong.
I find that the highest 13-14 notes on the bassoon are the hardest to execute circular breathing on. Very interesting to hear what is difficult from another bassoonist's view
I can certainly understand that. For me, on the bassoon and most of the contrabassoon I can take in enough air in the upper part of my cheeks that I don't end up disturbing my embouchure very much. On the lowest register of the contrabassoon, if I try that I end up in an air deficit and find myself needing to do the more exaggerated "Dizzy Gillespie" thing. As I get more comfortable with the exaggerated technique and hold myself to higher standards of tone and intonation I may very well start to find the uppermost register of the bassoon the most challenging.
That's very interesting. I have not had to execute circular breathing for oboe, ever. On oboe, I do find that with its super tight embouchure, it is very difficult to execute a good vibrato technique on notes that are sustained for more than a few measures. Then again, I don't play oboe all the much.
*_0:07_**_ - There is a passage in the contrabassoon part that, if taken literally, would require the contrabassoonist to hold out a PENIS MOLD an be flat for over 70 seconds._* Thats quite an unusual techniqe to play an instrument lol.
Thank you so much for making this video! This was extremely interesting! Alpine Symphony is possibly my favourite work of R. Strauss, as well as my favourite tone poem overall, and to see you talk about the role the contrabassoon (which is an instrument I'm curious about too, as well as the more modern contraforte developed by Lewis Lipnick) plays in that dark and amazing beginning was fantastic! Also the info on the circular breathing too. Wonder if the passage would be easier on the contraforte (as well as the circular breathing). I even tried humming what is being played during those 75 seconds, as I've read the score and know what is happening. Thank you so much once again! :)
There is orchestral precedent for tuning the contrabass down to Bb0, in George Crumb's "Haunted Landscape". (Ideally, this would be done on a 5-string contrabass, but those are quite rare in the US). A string instrument tuned lower than the contrabass would work, though it's not 100% clear that the octobass was intended to be tuned an octave below the contrabass. (Berlioz speaks quite emphatically that the octobass was tuned down to C1, giving it a low range an octave below the cello and a half-octave below contrabasses at that time, but identical to modern contrabasses with C extensions. The extra size would enable it to resonate these notes much more effectively; a job the modern contrabass is acoustically undersized for. It is, however, inarguable that at least some extant octobasses have been tuned down to C0. Whether those instruments were built contrary to the original intentions of the octobass, those instruments have been mistakenly tuned by later curators and restorationists, or Berlioz was simply mistaken, I cannot say. Though, I do find Berlioz being entirely mistaken the least likely of the three.)
It woke me up, but I assumed it was my upstairs neighbors stomping around. It was a very small earthquake; only worth mentioning because earthquakes are not something we're used to around here.
Being a low clarinet player, I'd try it on a BBb ContraBass Clarinet: a LeBlanc paperclip can reach down to the Bb0. I know they're not that common in Orchestras, but it's another woodwind option, at least.
Double bass has a lower range because the contrabassoon can play in the alto clef while the double bass play’s in the bass clef only ( the contrabassoon also play’s in the bass clef
1) It's tenor clef, not alto (alto is centered on the middle line of the staff, tenor is centered on the second line from the top). 2) Both contrabassoon and contrabass (double bass) use bass, tenor, and (rarely) treble clef as necessary. If anything, contrabass uses tenor and treble clef MORE often contrabassoon. 3) Clefs and range are independent. The contrabassoon can play down to Bb0 or A0 (depending on the model), whereas the contrabass can only play to either E1, C1, or B0 without retuning (depending on the presence/absence of an extension and the number of strings). You could write a contrabassoon's Bb0 in tenor clef or treble clef (but you shouldn't) but that wouldn't change the fact that it's lower than the standard, non-retuned range of the contrabass.
My music teacher told me that the double bass plays in the bass clef only. And the contrabassoon also plays in the bass clef but has a wider range of from bass clef to tenor clef.( is where I got the idea)
This is pretty good. Kenny G does a couple videos on this where he talks about circular breath and said it took him like 10 years to do, 20 to perfect.
Super Flute fill your cheeks with air and push it out while you breath in through your nose. That's all there is too it. Great help if you're in an orchestra and have to hold really long notes (maybe not like the one in this video though!)
First thing I did was buy several diameters of plastic tubing and found the one that best approximated the back pressure of a bassoon. Then, with that I practiced the various techniques in isolation: using "cheek air" to simply blow, blowing from the diaphragm while building "cheek air", blowing with the diaphragm while releasing "cheek air" switching from "lung air" to "cheek air", switching from "cheek air" to "lung air". (I tried a bit blowing bubbles into water but I didn't find that terribly helpful; the bubbles caused the airstream to have intermittent pressure which I found disruptive.) When I was not entirely inept at the techniques in isolation I started putting it all together. Only after that did I start working with the bassoon and dealing with the most challenging variable: maintaining embouchure (and therefore tone and intonation) during the process. I definitely have a lot of room to improve on the last point. It's probably been a year and half since I first started but it's been very gradual work.
Assuming one could find another instrument and player, I guess the easiest solution for an orchestra would be to have two of the instruments alternating breaths. Maybe coordinating volume to hide when one bassoonist is taking a breath? One crescendo while the other diminuendo until a breath then reverse. Is that a thing?
I cropped a video to where it’s just him for 75 seconds playing the note. You can set the setting to where it replays the video so that it’s a constant stream of this blissful Bb th-cam.com/video/tp5RlA20y5E/w-d-xo.html
Could you dive to the bottom of the lake to find the gold I lost in a boating accident? I am POSITIVE you could hold your breath for a LONG time. Awesome and you didn't look stressed at the end.
Yea I could do circluler breathing in a alto sax and I tried it on a bari and it's just none existent you can get enough air in your checks to let you have time to breathe
I don't think I need to tell you Richard is a superb musician. I performed with him for many years in Arkansas orchestras before my age and health forced me to retire from playing. I'm glad to have stumbled upon your video, Richard. I'm subscribing. By the way, Richard, did you say "penis-mo" on purpose at 0:13, or am I having one of my spells again?
Doesn't the bassoon take an exceptional amount of air? I might be wrong, I only played it for a little while and my only references are the flute and clarinet. Either way, this is amazing.
Hi, i'm not trying to make fun of you, i was just wondering. Why do you shake while playing that note? Is it because of the vibrations of that loooow note? Cheers!
The opera singer in the Bugs Bunny cartoon could do it in a single breath without issue. That's the one where Conductor Bugs made him hold a note until the whole concert shell collapsed.
Breathtaking performance!
BA DUM DISHHH!!
...........I’m gonna go jump out a window now.....
Kristian Oma Rønnes
Haha! 😜
literally.
Badoom tch!
Someone at the truck stop is violating the no idle zone.
im literaly dying someone call 911
does anyone else notice how much it sounds like a light saber?
Mr.UnfearedTwinkie lol it does to wth haha
Sounds like kylo's light saber tbh
Mr.UnfearedTwinkie Lmao
@@frankocoleman5623 eh don't have to be rude man just wants low Ab goodness
@@xander1052 thought the lightsaber was a G1
someone please make a 10 hours version of this
yasssssss
alexsander471 play it at slow speed :-)
dog anti barking acoustic sistem
alexsander471 I cropped a video to where it’s just him for 75 seconds playing the note. You can set the setting to where it replays the video so that it’s a constant stream of this blissful Bb
th-cam.com/video/tp5RlA20y5E/w-d-xo.html
Imagine how dead ur chops would get 😩
it sounds really cool but it's so funny that every few seconds it just
(note)
(sniff)
Yes, circular breathing.
DoodleMeister1 I know but it’s still funny
Nikolay Sheremet Bassooner is not a word
@Nikolay Sheremet yeah, I still can't figure it out on the tuba; we just use too much air
@@fabriziomilcent3835 I prefer Bassoomer
I'm not an amazing bassoonist and I only play regular bassoon not contrabassoon but I do want to say DANG THAT WAS A LOW NOTE!!!!
If you think that's low: www.subcontrabassoon.com :-)
My husband plays it every morning, and i don't know where does he hide that damn instrument.
circular breathing at its finest lmao
amen brother
Fella I see you EVERYWHERE
Nice pro pic
Nah. Try indiginous Australian didgerydoo players
More like THE VEGANS ARE COMING!!!
Wow, this was fantastic. Very well done.
being a tuba player, my compliments to you on a very difficult technique. i struggled with circular breathing too, and low range is my bane. time was my best friend, but low range never got easier, or useable .
on this excerpt, I'd suggest starting with a little less than your normal full air, so you have to sniff sooner, but you'll have the room sooner too. You won't be tempted to go to far and you'll be able to keep the pitch and tone steadier.
The only time, on this video, the pitch dropped noticeably was the first one, when you seemed to wait too long. Otherwise it wasn't noticeable!
Try holding water in your mouth, sniff and push the water out. it may help to see the stream. I'm not sure worrying about the back pressure on Bb 0 is that important! Honestly, this is very impressive! do it in a rehearsal, that's the only way to challenge yourself.
But you're a professional, you know that stuff.
More importantly to a tuba player, how are you related to Roger? The eyes are the giveaway!
As far as I know, I am not related to Roger beyond the fact that almost all US Bobos are descended from Gabriel Beaubau who immigrated to Virginia in the 1680s. But I'd love to be proven wrong.
www.rogerbobo.com/photos/historic/carnegie_recital.jpg
As I said, I see the resemblance in your eyes.
Steve Hoog, I can play quite low on my Large Bore Tenor Trombone.
Stabilized nicely after about 30 seconds. You could probably double on རྒྱ་གླིང་
how in tarnation do you do circular breathing on a tuba please tell me!
The famous brown note
Bb 0 is possible on bass trombone as well don't forget about us
Yep
Brett Roberts ayy im a xenon too
It is possible on tenor trombone and Euphonium also
Brandon Wang its called low Bb.
Justin Beiber it’s double pedal Bb
Beautifully executed concerto!
i’m suppose to be studying
avocado bitch same
r/madlads
How did your test go
jruns 2 years later.....
@@Nico-vl9fc lmao
That's Great! You have given me something to aim for
You don't give yourself enough credit. Your amazing at circular breathing
2:35 starts to play
4:00 :(
But does it djent?
oldschool metalheads will never understand...
finally a good comment that i can understand.
Devon Crain Where are all the solos this can't be a real band.
totally
Imagine djent fucking rockin it with one of these
Very good impression of a far away helicopter and very good circular breathing too
It sounds like a lawn mower😂
Olivia Nash or a washing machine😂
Olivia Nash or a honda
Olivia Nash or a helicopter
Olivia Nash not really
Stop 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I use circular breathing all the time when I play difficult passages on the piano.
0:13 what?
Lmao
pianissimo? Is that what he said? cause it sounded like something else...
1. Pianissimo means very quiet.
2. It’s spelled Fagott.
PENISsimo
1. The point was it sounded like he said something else.
2. It doesn’t matter.
That's incredible. This is the first example I've come across for circular breathing.This particular sound very much reminds me of an air compressor.
For someone who is not comfortable with the technique, you did it well.
Neighbors: "Can you stop the jackhammer !?"
That was amazing.
Sounds like Kylo Ren’s lightsaber
I find that the highest 13-14 notes on the bassoon are the hardest to execute circular breathing on.
Very interesting to hear what is difficult from another bassoonist's view
I can certainly understand that. For me, on the bassoon and most of the contrabassoon I can take in enough air in the upper part of my cheeks that I don't end up disturbing my embouchure very much. On the lowest register of the contrabassoon, if I try that I end up in an air deficit and find myself needing to do the more exaggerated "Dizzy Gillespie" thing. As I get more comfortable with the exaggerated technique and hold myself to higher standards of tone and intonation I may very well start to find the uppermost register of the bassoon the most challenging.
Actually, I find that the highest notes are the easiest to circular breathe on because there's more resistance in that register
low notes are my bane, coming from an Oboe with a super tight embouchure, i play high notes with ease
That's very interesting. I have not had to execute circular breathing for oboe, ever. On oboe, I do find that with its super tight embouchure, it is very difficult to execute a good vibrato technique on notes that are sustained for more than a few measures. Then again, I don't play oboe all the much.
It must be fun to play Strauss. He had an amazing ear!
*_0:07_**_ - There is a passage in the contrabassoon part that, if taken literally, would require the contrabassoonist to hold out a PENIS MOLD an be flat for over 70 seconds._*
Thats quite an unusual techniqe to play an instrument lol.
*pianissimo
@@justanotherstranger3672 no shit sherlock!!!!
was that just a really long queef?
Beth Johnston i
Green Bastard u ok?
You saucy girl
THUNDER QUEEF
Thank you so much for making this video! This was extremely interesting! Alpine Symphony is possibly my favourite work of R. Strauss, as well as my favourite tone poem overall, and to see you talk about the role the contrabassoon (which is an instrument I'm curious about too, as well as the more modern contraforte developed by Lewis Lipnick) plays in that dark and amazing beginning was fantastic! Also the info on the circular breathing too. Wonder if the passage would be easier on the contraforte (as well as the circular breathing). I even tried humming what is being played during those 75 seconds, as I've read the score and know what is happening. Thank you so much once again! :)
Aside from tuba and cb., would an octobass or a tuned down double bass work??
P.S. Did the earthquake affect you at all? I sincerely hope that you are all right!
There is orchestral precedent for tuning the contrabass down to Bb0, in George Crumb's "Haunted Landscape". (Ideally, this would be done on a 5-string contrabass, but those are quite rare in the US). A string instrument tuned lower than the contrabass would work, though it's not 100% clear that the octobass was intended to be tuned an octave below the contrabass. (Berlioz speaks quite emphatically that the octobass was tuned down to C1, giving it a low range an octave below the cello and a half-octave below contrabasses at that time, but identical to modern contrabasses with C extensions. The extra size would enable it to resonate these notes much more effectively; a job the modern contrabass is acoustically undersized for. It is, however, inarguable that at least some extant octobasses have been tuned down to C0. Whether those instruments were built contrary to the original intentions of the octobass, those instruments have been mistakenly tuned by later curators and restorationists, or Berlioz was simply mistaken, I cannot say. Though, I do find Berlioz being entirely mistaken the least likely of the three.)
It woke me up, but I assumed it was my upstairs neighbors stomping around. It was a very small earthquake; only worth mentioning because earthquakes are not something we're used to around here.
+Richard Bobo Thanks! And glad to know you're okay!
Being a low clarinet player, I'd try it on a BBb ContraBass Clarinet: a LeBlanc paperclip can reach down to the Bb0. I know they're not that common in Orchestras, but it's another woodwind option, at least.
Oh how I love the variety of the bassoons!
Double bass has a lower range because the contrabassoon can play in the alto clef while the double bass play’s in the bass clef only ( the contrabassoon also play’s in the bass clef
1) It's tenor clef, not alto (alto is centered on the middle line of the staff, tenor is centered on the second line from the top). 2) Both contrabassoon and contrabass (double bass) use bass, tenor, and (rarely) treble clef as necessary. If anything, contrabass uses tenor and treble clef MORE often contrabassoon. 3) Clefs and range are independent. The contrabassoon can play down to Bb0 or A0 (depending on the model), whereas the contrabass can only play to either E1, C1, or B0 without retuning (depending on the presence/absence of an extension and the number of strings). You could write a contrabassoon's Bb0 in tenor clef or treble clef (but you shouldn't) but that wouldn't change the fact that it's lower than the standard, non-retuned range of the contrabass.
My music teacher told me that the double bass plays in the bass clef only. And the contrabassoon also plays in the bass clef but has a wider range of from bass clef to tenor clef.( is where I got the idea)
I like how he's always vibrating with the contrabassoon
This is pretty good. Kenny G does a couple videos on this where he talks about circular breath and said it took him like 10 years to do, 20 to perfect.
i so want to learn how to circular breathe
Super Flute fill your cheeks with air and push it out while you breath in through your nose. That's all there is too it. Great help if you're in an orchestra and have to hold really long notes (maybe not like the one in this video though!)
thanks!
officially a part of my mixtape
Hi I'm mayonnaise The vending machine
hi
What method have you used to teach yourself and develop your circular breathing, and over what period of time from your very first attempt?
First thing I did was buy several diameters of plastic tubing and found the one that best approximated the back pressure of a bassoon. Then, with that I practiced the various techniques in isolation: using "cheek air" to simply blow, blowing from the diaphragm while building "cheek air", blowing with the diaphragm while releasing "cheek air" switching from "lung air" to "cheek air", switching from "cheek air" to "lung air". (I tried a bit blowing bubbles into water but I didn't find that terribly helpful; the bubbles caused the airstream to have intermittent pressure which I found disruptive.) When I was not entirely inept at the techniques in isolation I started putting it all together. Only after that did I start working with the bassoon and dealing with the most challenging variable: maintaining embouchure (and therefore tone and intonation) during the process. I definitely have a lot of room to improve on the last point. It's probably been a year and half since I first started but it's been very gradual work.
Amazing! And very educational, thank you. But...why didn't Richard Strauss score that part for an alpenhorn?!
Best bassoon note ever! Seriously though, how many composers can make a one note "solo" that iconic?
Sounds like a light saber
I'm a bassoonist! Us bassoonists are small but mighty!
Assuming one could find another instrument and player, I guess the easiest solution for an orchestra would be to have two of the instruments alternating breaths. Maybe coordinating volume to hide when one bassoonist is taking a breath? One crescendo while the other diminuendo until a breath then reverse. Is that a thing?
Sounds soothing for sleep
ContrabassoO)))n
Ｙｕｎｇ Ｖｕｌｐｉｘ hahaa
I love that double bass chilling in the corner
I do too. I played one for 38 years, many of those years with this bassoonist, and I didn't know he owned a double bass!
I can actually hear this as B-flat :) Well done!
Brother, that was awesome!
I've always loved the bassoon and especially the contrabassoon. My wife would kill me if I were to buy one though LoL...
I cropped a video to where it’s just him for 75 seconds playing the note. You can set the setting to where it replays the video so that it’s a constant stream of this blissful Bb
th-cam.com/video/tp5RlA20y5E/w-d-xo.html
That was cool. I wonder if you've improved since you recorded this seven years ago?
When there is roadwork outside your house.
0:14 TH-cam's automatic subtitles are on point again... "...is to hold out a penis molo b-flat..."
It's called "pianissimo"...
that is an otherworldly sound
The difficulty of this is understated 💰
Is there any reason to have the jake brakes on for so long
Outstanding!! Wish I could circular-breath.
Bloody hell...did you grow another lung!!! love that piece organ bass drum and contra bassoon giving that ominous bass!
Could you dive to the bottom of the lake to find the gold I lost in a boating accident? I am POSITIVE you could hold your breath for a LONG time. Awesome and you didn't look stressed at the end.
TMEA All-State top orchestra played Alpine Symphony this year.
Yea I could do circluler breathing in a alto sax and I tried it on a bari and it's just none existent you can get enough air in your checks to let you have time to breathe
This is what the worldwide hum is coming from guys!!!
Contrabassoon: Limbo champion.
0:37 is that a conno-sax?
yes
how do you circular breath ?!?!? its so hard and i always have to do it but never do it
Sounds real nice when you have a sub woofer present
Is that a heckelphone the musician is holding in the aerophor ad?
holding a low Bb on tuba is just the average tuba experience
so is it just holding a 75 sec note or does it being a very low note make it harder? ive never played a bassoon
Nice circular breathing technique!
That register is verr common place for tuba... Also orcgestral trombones are more than capable of a Bb 0
Sounds hypnotic. Great job sustaining that Bb. How low is this note? Like how many Bb's below middle C?
3 octaves below the Bb below middle C
But why did Richard Strauss do that? What had the contra-bassoonist done to him?
Im a former brass now percussionist and this is just WOAH!!!!!
Contrabass clarinets can go down to a Low C (concert Bb0)
Sure, but for all practical purposes, the contrabass clarinet is not part of an orchestral woodwind section.
Why do bassoon players shake like that while playing? Seems quite common.
I don't think I need to tell you Richard is a superb musician. I performed with him for many years in Arkansas orchestras before my age and health forced me to retire from playing. I'm glad to have stumbled upon your video, Richard. I'm subscribing. By the way, Richard, did you say "penis-mo" on purpose at 0:13, or am I having one of my spells again?
Congratulations!!!! It looks pretty hard to do.
Tuba can play Bb0 (and down to E below that and possibly beyond)
I held my breath the whole note through
That is pretty awesome, dude.
Doesn't the bassoon take an exceptional amount of air? I might be wrong, I only played it for a little while and my only references are the flute and clarinet. Either way, this is amazing.
Jamie Krouse quite the opposite. it requires very little air.
Flute takes more air than bassoon I think
How long or how tall is the contra bassoon
Is this the lowest Bb you can play on a bass guitar in e standard tuning?
Hi, i'm not trying to make fun of you, i was just wondering. Why do you shake while playing that note? Is it because of the vibrations of that loooow note?
Cheers!
You are modest. Amazing!
you actually did really good
Looks and sounds like life support
What frequency is that?
How did I end up here?
Apparently Contrabass clarinet can get down to this note as well
Is this on Spotify?
Is someone doing roadworks nearby? I swear I can hear a drill.
The opera singer in the Bugs Bunny cartoon could do it in a single breath without issue. That's the one where Conductor Bugs made him hold a note until the whole concert shell collapsed.
Strauss would have loved you!!! :-)
Contrabass Clarinet can also play as low.
My man has the lung capacity of an air compressor
Contrabass clarinet can play concert Bb0
0:13 a "what" low Bb???
pianissimo
I can’t even hold my breath for 75 seconds let alone blowing through the instrument.