I really don't think someone has that mental just on his/her own. He/She must be disturbed with something or someone because this mental is so dark and the dark exists only if there isn't any light.
This is such a great movie because it shows that people can hold opposing sincere points of view on life that cannot be resolved by rational thought. We all make our choices in the dark, which is to say, on faith.
I am in that state for 10 years now. It is quite exhausting mentally
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*The final realization of intelligent life:* futility A realization that religion has fundamentally battled to end through the use of fables and delusion.
Hope is an absconding from reality. It postpones real living. What White says is actually closer to Truth then living by belief and hope. The difference between realized human and White is that, realized human has White's understanding but without identity. It's identity that creates suffering. Without identity White's understanding is freedom-inducing.
The problem with believing this speech is not its message but it's energy. If death (oblivion) is such a desired goal somthing to long for then you don't try to communicate it to others. Because that it pointless thier opinion does not matter. Getting others to validate you is only somthing people who want to live desire.
Watch the whole movie. He doesn't want to be there and certainly isn't seeking validation. He was attempting suicide when some religious do-gooder with a massive guilt complex interrupted him and practically held him hostage in his apartment in an idiotic attempt to persuade him that life was worth living. If anyone needs validation in this scene, it's Samuel L Jackson's character. He's the one desperately trying to convince himself that all life is precious and only a sick or damaged person would voluntarily want to end it.
He is not seeking validation simply explaining enough to get him to let him leave and kill himself...see wut happens wen only watch clips and not the whole movie smh u dnt have context Lol
White is trying to explain his current stance to Black so that Black will abandon his quest to "save" White and understand that he is deep in a hole that he can not escape from, that he is beyond help. White is looking for the fastest possible route out of the apartment that he is being held prisoner in, so that he can return to the platform and finish what he intended to do that morning.
@@silversnail1413Read The Brothers Karamazov, this play is very similar to that masterpiece by Dostoevsky. The non-believer is portrayed as so much more accomplished, powerful and verbally superior in his speech and was practically toying with the follower of faith. But the argument of despair has its flaws (based on the illogical assumption that it truly is darkness and nothingness beyond death), both writers did a fantastic job of hinting at it but not spelling it out for you. Let us remember that we come from death, it is not just the end, it is also the beginning.
That's not tru...cud say it's only futile is ther isn't an afterlife believe got nutin to do wit it...if it's as he say it is then u wud be in same boat as him jus believed a lie b4 u died🤷♂️...he is 100% rite btw
No- I don’t believe in an afterlife, and find the idea horrifying. But I enjoy my life now because I won’t get another chance at it, and not only want to make the most of it for myself, but hopefully leave the word where others can also do the same for themselves
Yes if you afraid of dead, nothingness, oblivion, peace, silent, then you would automatically believe afterlife story, while in fact you just hiding your fear
This is my daily mental spiral portrayed as a movie.
I really don't think someone has that mental just on his/her own. He/She must be disturbed with something or someone because this mental is so dark and the dark exists only if there isn't any light.
@@zekicakirwell yes, we are, (largely at least) a product of our environment. Nobody chooses to feel this way.
Same
This is such a great movie because it shows that people can hold opposing sincere points of view on life that cannot be resolved by rational thought. We all make our choices in the dark, which is to say, on faith.
What happens when you lose all faith? To everything? You freeze in a trap. You can't move forward but you also can't stay where you are. This is hell
Fucking hell. This is terrifing beyond measure because we understand it but cannot grasp its full reality. If we could we would simply give up
Or grasp so violently life itself might be choked into silence?
I have. I did when i was 7 its impossible to explain. ive been suicidal since. I stay for siblings and parents. I don't want to hurt them.
"Banish the dea of death from a man and he wouldn't live a day."
I am in that state for 10 years now. It is quite exhausting mentally
*The final realization of intelligent life:* futility
A realization that religion has fundamentally battled to end through the use of fables and delusion.
One of the most brilliant scripts ever written. I feel like McCarthy was secretly an extreme philosophical pessimist.
Thanks for posting
... I regard it as the world itself.
This is a master Peace.
Well, said.
The final nightmare lol
Hope is a good thing
In some circumstances.
No it isn’t. Hope is backed by nothing and causes so much unnecessary suffering
Hope is an absconding from reality. It postpones real living. What White says is actually closer to Truth then living by belief and hope. The difference between realized human and White is that, realized human has White's understanding but without identity. It's identity that creates suffering. Without identity White's understanding is freedom-inducing.
Hope is fear in disguise.
@@MustObeyTheRulesthis is so sad. Praying for you brother
Futility or humility...
Or both
Seamus Hawks hope or despair?
What?
Paulo R. No man can serve two masters
@@eternallight88 All men always serve more than one master.
Futility is the inability to accept humility.
You don't want to see your own mama? Lolll
The problem with believing this speech is not its message but it's energy. If death (oblivion) is such a desired goal somthing to long for then you don't try to communicate it to others. Because that it pointless thier opinion does not matter. Getting others to validate you is only somthing people who want to live desire.
Watch the whole movie. He doesn't want to be there and certainly isn't seeking validation. He was attempting suicide when some religious do-gooder with a massive guilt complex interrupted him and practically held him hostage in his apartment in an idiotic attempt to persuade him that life was worth living. If anyone needs validation in this scene, it's Samuel L Jackson's character. He's the one desperately trying to convince himself that all life is precious and only a sick or damaged person would voluntarily want to end it.
He is not seeking validation simply explaining enough to get him to let him leave and kill himself...see wut happens wen only watch clips and not the whole movie smh u dnt have context Lol
White is trying to explain his current stance to Black so that Black will abandon his quest to "save" White and understand that he is deep in a hole that he can not escape from, that he is beyond help. White is looking for the fastest possible route out of the apartment that he is being held prisoner in, so that he can return to the platform and finish what he intended to do that morning.
@@silversnail1413Read The Brothers Karamazov, this play is very similar to that masterpiece by Dostoevsky. The non-believer is portrayed as so much more accomplished, powerful and verbally superior in his speech and was practically toying with the follower of faith. But the argument of despair has its flaws (based on the illogical assumption that it truly is darkness and nothingness beyond death), both writers did a fantastic job of hinting at it but not spelling it out for you. Let us remember that we come from death, it is not just the end, it is also the beginning.
@@silversnail1413he wasn’t holding him hostage he could’ve left if he wanted to but he didn’t because some part of him wanted to be convinced to live.
Life is only futile if you believe that there isn't an afterlife.
That's not tru...cud say it's only futile is ther isn't an afterlife believe got nutin to do wit it...if it's as he say it is then u wud be in same boat as him jus believed a lie b4 u died🤷♂️...he is 100% rite btw
That's the point-he doesn't, because logically, there isn't.
No- I don’t believe in an afterlife, and find the idea horrifying. But I enjoy my life now because I won’t get another chance at it, and not only want to make the most of it for myself, but hopefully leave the word where others can also do the same for themselves
Yes if you afraid of dead, nothingness, oblivion, peace, silent, then you would automatically believe afterlife story, while in fact you just hiding your fear