A Henry Cavill Superman sequel and potential will always be my personal biggest "what if" of CBM history. He was genuinely perfect for the role. But they completely wasted his time in the cape. Man Of Steel was such a great starting point for the character that we all know from the comics, TV, and cinema. And the worst part is that Henry absolutely loves Superman and loved playing him. He wanted all of the same things we did. And was ready to deliver. James Gunn better make a damn good movie with Superman: Legacy, or this will hurt even more than it already does.
And that's the one thing that pisses me off about Superman fans that claim they understand Superman. They say man is still sucks yeah? You just said it was a good starting point that's exactly what it was. That's why it was called man of steel not Superman. He wasn't Superman in this movie until maybe the end and even then hes not really Superman. Until the end of his action nightmares Justice League what people are forgetting is we're witnessing the reverse of this Batman. And the rise of this Superman hes not Superman until the end of the next night is Justice League. That's when he has been oh I need to go do what i need to do and hes fucking frightened staffing with the whole time with. A smirk and like it's nothing hes literally become Superman and people claim they understand his character from the comics. Yet hate man of steel I understand some of the things of him destroying the truck. The trucker that put beer onest face and maybe how his dad died? You can be a little stupid bat the same time when they claim that Superman just destroyed. The? Fuck out. Of metropolis are you rude idiots? Not understanding the the damage from the soup and not alone is just too cryptonian. You're not thinking about what the world engine would have done. It would have been successful and it would have completely altered Earth. And then you're also not thinking about that even the scientific cryptonians if they were to go into our atmosphere without their visors and start absorbing yellow. Sunlight and breathe in our oxygen that they wouldn't just start develop in super powers like God and his 2 generals so not only would you have. Zod in his generals but also super scientists who can kill any human or military personnel because they are just as invincible as Superman maybe not as strong. Because hes been absorbed in all this yellow sun for 2 decades 2 and a 1/2 decades but you've got to. Understand at that point even if it's only 20 to 30 criptonians. That's enough power to level Earth 10 times more than a nuclear bomb like they can literally drill to the core of the Earth and blow us up just by. Flying and into it and they might die but there'd be other corporations left. You guys don't seem to understand the stakes that the new blood Superman had to deal with. If he didn't snap zod's neck refer to the end of the Flash. This is what would happen we would have lost. Marshall manhunter would have been a bitch and let us all die because let's face it. He can't fight cryptonians hand the hand he get his ass walyes. Yes I don't understand how people can say they love Superman and hate man and steal and not understand this is literally the superman's origin story. It's his beginning hes not at the daily planet yet is not even in metropolis. And hes not even in smallville anymore hes going through his journey pretty much. What smallville Clark can't went through except staying in smallville metropolis. He went through that save and people randomly work in different jobs figuring out who he was or what he wanted to be and if he was ever gonna. Reveal himself this was literally an origin for Superman and yet you guys don't understand that now I get after this film things were rushed badly versus. Superman should have had a individual Batman film and another man of steel films so we could fully appreciate cable in the Cape and suit as soups before killing. Them off because that's their biggest mistake they ever did was kill them off. I remember being legit. Intimately pissed off in the theater saying they were retards for bringing in doomsday this early. I mean two movies in is very very early
Henry Cavill suffered the same problem I had with Ben Affleck. He was perfectly casted, but had bad material. And that’s the fault of Zack Snyder and the writers.
@@RewindthetimesThe DCEU already fell under Snyder. Gunn can't do much worse than him. Have you watched Peacemaker. That show had NO business being as good as it was. I was shocked. I trust Gunn more than anyone else right now.
I was never a massive fan of cavils superman, but once I saw him at the end of black Adam I really thought he finally looked perfect and I was so excited that we might finally get a worthy writer to give Henry a great script to work with. It’s a shame that e won’t see that but I’m still really excited for Gunns version of the character and I hope David correnswet gets cast
I remember the first time I saw a production photo of Henry Cavill on the MoS set, he was standing besides a helicopter in front of a green screen, he was unshaved and had no costume, just some wet pants. And there he was: Superman. That was the Superman I had always wanted to see on screen. Like he was ripped out of the JLU cartoon and given flesh. I loved the Christopher Reeves films back when I was a kid, I still do. But to me this was a new version, one that no one could tell me was lame, specially when compared to Batman. No, I could just see him bench pressing the fcking moon. Hell, that 5yo me in the back of my brain still kind of expects Cavill to rip his shirt and take flight in the middle of a Warhammer interview.
We have an actor who not only fits Supes as perfectly as RDJ fit iron Man or Chris Evans Captain America, but he was a nerd who respected the source material and brought that respect to the role. And WB threw the diamond they had away. SMFH. I hate that Hack Snyder wasted an actor of Cavill's caliber to try and make Edgy Alien Jesus.
I don’t know why we can’t have two Superman movies, one with Henry Cavill & the other one, with the new guy. Just like they’re doing two Batman movies.
I may not be a fan of the DCEU movies Henry Cavill was in, but Henry Cavill was Superman. Not my favorite live action Superman, but the definitively my favorite live action Superman in appearance.
Not gonna repeat what a lot of ppl have said already, but to me to be a great Superman an actor HAS to understand the character deeply & what has made him endure for so long. I really think Henry understood that & its sad he never got to play the more joyful version fully.
I don’t understand the Superman thing. why do we have to wait for a character to shine as the character when Christopher reeves shined as Superman in his first movie. Tyler Hoechlin shined as Superman in his first episode as the character, cavil had 2 movies, it’s snyders fault that Superman was the way he was. he was never gonna become the Superman we all know and love because it was intentional to make him dark and edgy, people are more in love with the idea of what his Superman could have been instead of what his Superman actually was. snyders Superman was intended to be that way because WB wanted to get with the times there was no road to a hopeful Superman I guarantee he could have had 5 more movies and he still would have been dark and edgy
I’ll be honest. I personally don’t think that people truly thought Cavill was the best Superman. But I think they fell in love with the potential that he could’ve been the best. To me, he wasn’t around enough to really prove this. He was literally in 2 1/2 films lol. I really liked him, but I think it’s a little odd saying he’s the best when he wasn’t even in enough to showcase it fully. There was so much potential with Cavill to become that in the future. But since it didn’t happen, people calling him the best doesn’t make sense to me.
Finally! For love of god finally!someone who sees what I see I was beginning to think I was the only one like people really out here calling best Superman like Christopher or the iron man of DCEU when iron man was in 11 movies
I agree, like because of the scripts he was given he was barely Superman to begin with. Do I think he had the potential? Sure, I really enjoy him as an actor. But it's just potential, we never actually saw much of it onscreen. I'm not particularly mourning him being gone for that reason - he didn't actually show me much Superman thanks to everything about the Snyderverse. Potential is not the same thing as what we actually got.
I don’t understand the Superman thing. why do we have to wait for a character to shine as the character when Christopher reeves shined as Superman in his first movie. Tyler Hoechlin shined as Superman in his first episode as the character, cavil had 2 movies, it’s snyders fault that Superman was the way he was. he was never gonna become the Superman we all know and love because it was intentional to make him dark and edgy, people are more in love with the idea of what his Superman could have been instead of what his Superman actually was. snyders Superman was intended to be that way because WB wanted to get with the times there was no road to a hopeful Superman I guarantee he could have had 5 more movies and he still would have been dark and edgy
The Clark Kent glasses have much more going for it than "just a pair of glasses". Watch the Reeves version and it shows all the little tricks that Clark uses, not to mention vibrating his face at superspeed in photos when he is Superman, and there has been COUNTLESS issues devoted to all the tricks that Clark uses to differentiate his identities-I'm so over this argument with literally NO research from the commentator stating the disguise is crap. Hell, Cavill himself stood in a Superman S t-shirt in Times Square under the BvS bill board trying to get recognized for a day-with no glasses, and NO ONE knew him! Come on.
I love how people just like, say shit like that, and don't explain themselves. Usually because they can't and have no fucking clue what makes for a good script. Man of Steel reminded me so much of a DCAU movie in particular it's not even funny. For those who aren't aware, that's a very good thing. See, description. A valid one, at that. On and don't even start with the "Superman would never kill" bullshit. He can in the comics for the needs of the many. If you don't know that then you shouldn't be commenting on the character whatsoever, thanks.
This is my biggest gripe with the 'new DC'. Cavill embidies the look of Superman perfectly. Gunn is making a huge mistake by ejecting him as the figurehead of the DC Universe.
Im perfectly ok with the obvious secret identity because no matter, there is going to be some suspension of disbelief. Im my mind, if a guy can fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes, I can buy that glasses and a meek personality are a good enough disguise
I just wanna see a good adaptation of the character something like American alien, birthright or secret origins. He’s just a man with powers doing what he can. I think they need to follow the Batman and maybe pick up from like year 3-4
I don’t understand the Superman thing. why do we have to wait for a character to shine as the character when Christopher reeves shined as Superman in his first movie. Tyler Hoechlin shined as Superman in his first episode as the character, cavil had 2 movies, it’s snyders fault that Superman was the way he was. he was never gonna become the Superman we all know and love because it was intentional to make him dark and edgy, people are more in love with the idea of what his Superman could have been instead of what his Superman actually was. snyders Superman was intended to be that way because WB wanted to get with the times there was no road to a hopeful Superman I guarantee he could have had 5 more movies and he still would have been dark and edgy
I fully agree with you on Henry Cavill really got the short end of the stick. Doomsday should of been its own film closer to when the movies start to tire out or you build up to like say End game was. You then end the film with the rise of the four Supermen. Having Henry play Cyborg Superman, Black Suit Superman, and The Eradicator which at first was thought to be Superman. We would see all three maybe even add Superboy in like the comics and asking if Superman will be back or who is Superman? They threw out a chance to really make record numbers. If you think End Game went big. If you did the Death of Superman right with Cavill. We really would have had a great movie. The rise of Supermen would end up like Infinity War. However, DC has been just dropping the ball from one movie to another. I love the new Supergirl actually, but DC can't be given credit for a long term ability to allow a director to do what they want and give us a good film.
I'm sorry, but Clark Kent is essential to the Superman mythos. Saying that it's not justified is kind of missing the forest for the trees. Clark alters is entire appearance, his posture, the direction his hair is swept off to. It's an effective disguise, despite how much people meme on it. Could Cavil play an effective Clark? Maybe? But he didn't. Reeve managed to make both performances feel like separate people, and transformed between the two effortlessly. Cavil's Superman feels so stiff in comparison. Like, if Reeve's Superman was to interact with any villain, any other version of Superman, regardless of size or costume, he'd outshine them in performance and presence alone.
You should check out Mark Waid's Kingdom Come comic-kind of Superman's own Dark Knight Returns book. It puts the MAN before the SUPER and definitely shows why Clark must always put that first. Every panel is painted and beautiful. You'd dig it.
18:54 man, with all due respect, you COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG ABOUT THAT. He didn't just save the city once; he saved the entire planet from being subjected to genocide and then be turned into Krypton. There's a world of difference. Of course he would deserve a statue.
Henry Cavill could have been a great Superman if he was just allowed to act like Superman. This is shown in the theatrical cut of justice league and even in his short cameo in Black Adam. Henry Cavill actually acts like Superman in those movies, and does a good job at it. Man of steel and especially the snyder cut of justice league just seems to not let Henry Cavill be Superman, especially when he should have been Superman in those films. The closest Zack gets to having Henry Cavill be Superman is the ultimate edition of BvS, and it still starts off bad by having Superman save Lois by tackling a normal man through walls. It just shows that Henry Cavill was never the problem with his portrayal of Superman. He just needed a better director that understands who Superman is and what he stands for. th-cam.com/play/PL-DeArxLd9idZvxfshRVfk6jtC2DNqv0y.html
Nobody’s ever actually made a reason to why Clark Kent’s disguise works? It’s been explained in some of the most popular books. The most common portrayal is the explanation given in All Star Superman. He doesn’t just wear the glasses. He wears baggier clothes to make himself look chubbier. He walks with a slouch to make himself look shorter. He acts extremely clumsy, because who would expect Superman to be a bumbling oaf? Another explanation in an older comic(which I personally despise) is that his glasses emit low level physic energy to hypnotize people into not seeing him as Superman. In terms of the Snyderverse? They really never did pull it off it was just Superman with a suit and glasses. His suit was tight, showing off his muscles. His posture was powerful, making him full height. He never acted clumsy from what we saw, taking away that aspect as well. Henry Cavill was an alright Superman. But he was a downright awful Clark Kent. His jaw line alone would be hard to miss in a crowd of thousands of people
Christopher Reeve IS Superman. Ironically, Cavill only got Superman/Kal/Clark Kent done right at the end of Justice League 2017...because he started acting like Reeve. Leave this character to Reeve, because even in death, he's superior. Cavill's perfected character is Geralt Of Rivia from The Witcher.
issue is everyone says man of steel didnt understand superman yet forget to realize he's not superman until the end of thr film....realistically how would he stop the kryptonians without a phantom zone gun nor other options, watch the flash movie and see what had happened if clark hadnt broke zods neck....
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@@VI_V2 Henry Cavill is NOT Superman. His Superman didn't care about people, he threw Zod into active buildings. Zack Snyder was doing the Injustice storyline, which is the least Superman story ever. Christopher Reeves would never choose to save Lois Lane and doom the world.
Supes chose the black suit on the ship because it absorb the sunlight more, solar energy from the sun., also, that suit he wore in the Black Adam cameo scene was the .an of Steel suit, the colors were enhanced (non filter)
Poor dude poured his heart and soul into being Superman AND The Witcher and gets screwed both times by the team surrounding him (writers, producers...) It sucks. I love him as superman and Man Of Steel is a comfort movie for me. But I believe he was born to play The Witcher...his passion for the character bleed into his performance beautifully.
23:20 Your quote at this timestamp is ironic because that's exaxtly what youre doing when talking about how The Death of Superman is used in BVS. We know it's a grand event in the comics and involved a lot of characters at his funeral, but the reason for it being done in BVS was to show this was how Humanity learned to trust Superman because the basis was that the Snyderverse is set a realistic world like ours and it was showing that distrustful, skeptical and confrontational aspect of human nature, something also reflected through Batfleck. And it's weird that you complain about fan service and then a few sentences later you say how much you wish Supermans Funeral could've been bigger Fan Service. At the end of the day, Film is a vastly different medium from comics and it can never be translated one to one.
Henry Cavill is a Great Superman but the Direction of WB and Writers Tainted that Potential that maybe Recasting Him could be the Best Choice but it’s just my Opinion.
I never really liked Zach Snyder's vision with Superman, but, like my dislike of the Amazing Spider-Man movies, the Actor was never the problem. He looks the part and always seemed to give it his all. I would have loved to see more Cavill Superman in James Gunn's DC slate, but I suppose you only know what you've got when it's gone
Of course you don't, as you wouldn't genuinely know what makes for interesting writing, and cannot handle anything less than absolutely uninspired cookie cutter drivel. Just like so many others. Be proud.
Breaks my heart how WB, Zack, and half the fanbase treated Henry Cavill during his run as Superman. A previous WB executive (who has since quit WB) effectively shadow banned him from future projects (shelving a MoS sequel indefinitely) after JL, for a completely undisclosed, likely petty, reason. Zack hardly gave Henry a quality script to work with. Unfortunately increasingly leaning towards his edgy “dictator Superman” storyline he planted the seeds for in BvS. Since Zack refuses to let superheroes just be good for the sake of being good. The fans turned on Henry for: A) not being Christopher Reeve… and B) for the piss poor decision making Zack Snyder and his team of writers were shaping Henry’s Superman up to be. They hardly gave Henry a chance, and stooped to utter rejection of him for the script and direction he wasn’t responsible for. I fully believed him when he promised that his Superman would be happier after his cameo in Black Adam. He wanted to make things right with the fans because Henry has always been an avid supporter of the fanbase (which makes total sense because he was clearly a fanboy of the character as well). Henry had the look, the demeanor, the acting chops, the suit, the physique, the incredible score/theme song, the drive, the passion, and the will to give us an incredible Superman… perhaps the best live action Superman… but he was never given the opportunity, because at every turn he was shackled and abruptly stopped by the people behind the DCEU. Truly the biggest waste of an enormous amount of potential… I wish Henry Cavill the best… you were slept on big time, and you’ll always be… at least to me… the best live action Superman we’ve ever had to this day!
I remember thinking well henry's back and james gunn is taking over. They'll let these movies play out and gunn will reintroduce henry in a new movie and slowly build upon that, keep everything from the past but make it new and fresh . Obviously this wasn't to be and I feel bad for henry. But WB is sitting there with comic artists, writers and an animation department. Why not continue the snyderverse, henry cavil and black adam saga with these medias? Make more money on those than the constant cinema flops
His father told him not to. He held his hand out to stop him and shake his head. Telling him in a silent way to not save him. He didn't think the world was ready for Clark to show what he was. And didn't want his son to be targeted by the government. Not knowing what they might do to his wife and son.
I don’t understand the Superman thing. why do we have to wait for a character to shine as the character when Christopher reeves shined as Superman in his first movie. Tyler Hoechlin shined as Superman in his first episode as the character, cavil had 2 movies, it’s snyders fault that Superman was the way he was. he was never gonna become the Superman we all know and love because it was intentional to make him dark and edgy, people are more in love with the idea of what his Superman could have been instead of what his Superman actually was. snyders Superman was intended to be that way because WB wanted to get with the times there was no road to a hopeful Superman I guarantee he could have had 5 more movies and he still would have been dark and edgy
I don't get how some people embrace mediocrity like that. LOOKS IS NOT EVERYTHING. He might look good in the suit, but the man cannot act. He's so stoic in everything he does, it's painful to watch. People who say he is irreplaceable don't have the highest standards in my opinion.
yeah the disguise is one of the few things from recent live action i dont like. in the comics people dont really assume superman has a secret identity because he doesnt wear a mask but he also moves around so fast there isnt many great clear 4k images of supermans face. plus clark in the comics slouches so hes a few inches shorter, has glasses (some comics that say even changes hes eye color) wears baggy clothes and he parts his hair completely different. clark is also really introverted and clumsy. there is a lot of pyschological stuff to help back it up and explained well in the comics but except for the chris reeves stuff its just glasses in the live action and its kinda a let down. fact friend did a great video on why it actually works in the comics
Cavill is a very cool guy and his humility will always be appreciated. I say he could've been an awesome Superman, but he was never truly directed to play Superman. I never liked the DC Snyder films, to me they are trash because Snyder's style was opposite what the DC films needed to be, and that is why they were failures. Many say the "Snyder Cut"was good, I say it was a longer version of the trash the JL film already was. Many blame Whedon for that failure but there is no way that film was going to work no matter who they brought to finish it, it was Snyder who ruined it from the start. I respect he had a vision, but it was 100% the wrong vision for what the DC films needed to be, specially if they wanted to make something as good as the earlier Marvel films. Cavill never played Superman and he knows it, thankfully he has the right attitude and maturity to surpass and survive the current Hollywood trash and continue on. God bless him.
@@Mr.DontOverThinkItmy profile picture is the flash but in my opinion saying a person is bad because of disproven allegations is stupid. i’m not saying they’re a good person because i don’t know them in real life.
@@imstuff205 I don't think the allegations were ever disproven. At least not every single one of them, which is quite a list. But so long as you support that character not the person, idrc.
@@Mr.DontOverThinkIt this video covers them pretty well if you're interested. i wanted to say more but youtube keeps deleting my replies. th-cam.com/video/ZnN3ZiVBcgg/w-d-xo.html
Ezra Miller always a terrible choice for the flash. Looks nothing like him and is a predator and groomer in real-life. Snyder actually looked at Ezra and said “he would be a good superhero!”
Even as someone is not a Superman fan and have seen the max fleischer even I feel bad for Henry cavil as Superman he could have been a really great Superman and really given the chance he pretty much became the Andrew Garfield spiderman of Superman
It's a shame he never got to live up to his true potential. Unfortunately the writing surrounding never did the character justice and Zack Snyder never really understood the character of Superman. The reason Superman is essential in the world of comics is because represents the good and hope within all of us. He's kind, compassionate, understanding, he is gentle, he is teachable and is not afraid to show emotion and affection. In a universe filled with heroes with emotional baggage, Superman is an emotionally healthy hero who while still wrestles with his own demons, he still doesn't let those demons define him and he represents the goodness within all of us. I honestly really dislike all the Superman suits Henry wore. They look two alien made when in the comics they are supposed to look homemade as if his mother made it.
Actually, the best Superman lore of recent times in comics, and the most well received, have been one shots and miniseries that deal with the fact that no, Superman does indeed have flaws. Which is great, because I'm sorry but a bastion of goodness flying brick is a fucking boring concept no matter which one you're talking about. That's probably why those characters tend to be considered relics by actual comics writers. Just saying I mean...
@@SidNightWalker Did you not pay attention to what I was saying at all? Of course Superman is a flawed character but he's flawed in a way that is actually not taken to the stupendous extreme. I'm sorry that there's something within you that makes you refuse to accept that there can actually be someone who really is a genuinely good person.
@@The_Phantasm just like in the movies, so why are you complaining? That's what the Snyder movies were very much based on is more recent additions to the comic book lore. Not that I'd figure people would get that, of course. He wasn't taken to anything extreme in any way. So...? Oh and for the record? Reality, is why a bastion of perfection character doesn't work for me. Most of the time, anyway. Superman TAS actually is another really good example of making Superman interesting, through his interactions with different villains and how he did show genuine intelligent depth. That's a style of writing Superman that does work well, I'll admit.
In my opinion, it is quite obvious that there is a missing Superman movie to fill in the character arc between MOS and BVS. Additionally, the Death of Superman should have been the conclusive ending of a Superman trilogy, similar to the way Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy concluded.
I "grew up" with Christpher Reeves as Superman... and to me, HENRY CAVILL is Superman. The way he (and us fans) were baited and switched is a large part of the reason that I will be BOYCOTTING James Gunns rebooted dcu. The black suit was never indicative of an "edgy" (or "more edgier", as you so ineloquently said it) Superman... it's his "recharge" suit, because black absorbes light better than lighter colors. The MULLET was supposed to indicate an edgier 'Supes.
Henry Cavill could’ve easily have been a much better Superman than Christopher Reeves or the voice actors who played him. In the animated shows and movies since the 90s. However unfortunately, the material given to him. Rarely allowed him to be beloved by everybody. Or be objectively being the best version of Superman possible.
Although Cavill obviously is a beautiful male specimen and his Superman was truly good to watch, for me as a long-time Superman comics reader it never came across as the real Superman, I was more like those special editions when they combined 2 different characters into one in "what if" or alternative universe type of thing, this thing about an angry dark Grimm superhero is more Batman territory, superman was always a boy scout with superpowers, Christoper Reeves still the one that more accurate not only in looks but on how he was portraited, that guy from Superman return was also great but the film itself was bad, Henry Cavill is a good actor he could be a more faithful interpretation of superman, but that was not what Zack had in mind, so is a shame I were unable to see Cavill superman done by a different writer and director, he could emerge as the most gorgeous and accurate superman of them all
So the SUPERMAN Suit from BLACK ADAM was the MAN OF STEEL Suit. It just didn't have Snyder's color desaturation lens over it. Which still bothers me to today. But it fine.😅
New Superman didn't need to address Clark's glasses because it's been explained in previous films, shows and comics. Snyder doesn't treat his fans like idiots. But he really should.
I just hate the state WB was in pushing and pulling EVERYONE around even actors who were just trying to do a job. I don't like how he was written of course and pretty much all the Superman focused movies in the DCEU were probably some of my personally more hated ones, even ones he just had a cameo in. That said I didn't hate Henry as Superman, it was never his performance or anything about him that sucked about the character just everything else that surrounded him. After every movie they made I can say I only liked one movie, Shazam. And then they immediately fucked up the sequel when they signed on the rock who kept pushing his character away from his intended rival just to have a ultimately doomed and dropped Adam Versus Superman story nobody really wanted.
Zack Snyder didn't understand the characters of Superman &/or Batman. 1st image in 1st trailer of Bats, he was holding an assault rifle & a leak said tht Supes could kill, but Not smile and tht was a rule
I really wish Hollywood producers could take the time to listen to the common sense logic that comes from some content creators. They could save themselves from lots of failure.
People keep saying that Man of Steel is too Dark need a better script they should define what is a better script or problems with his role This is the FAULT of those on WB they should have left Snyder continue as he would have evolved into the Superman we know only if we let him develop into more movies....... Man of Steel was just his first origin story he isnt the Superman we know
Tmgis disguise is normal. No one would expect him to look just like them. Its like adam sandler walking down the street most people barely notice him. Because hes dressed like a normal man you would be walking by on the street. He doesn't bring attention to himself. I assume that's the same thing with superman as clark kent.
Yeah, I don't think a statue for someone who saved the entire world once is over the top. And considering a major plot element was how people ware fuckin with that statue addresses the issue of it being controversial.
Superman stopped an alien invasion from his own home planet! Although thousands died save he saved billions!! A giant statue wasn't deserved?! He chose Earth over Kypton!!
This is the worst video of yours I've ever watched. I tried to give it a shot. I hate this Snyderverse but do you like you well enough. But you can't in one breath say the film doesn't do enough to justify the Clark Kent identity, and then say it emphasizes the man over the steel. Them getting Jonathan Kent wrong killed this entire universe. It was the Kents that made Superman into Big Blue Boy scout, not him killing Zod. In the second movie had visions of him turning evil so if you think for one second the intention was for him to become the Big Blue Boy scout that we all knew and loved, you're sadly mistaken. In Clark secret identity isn't the hardest part of the Mythos get right it's one of the most important parts and has been done well in nearly every other iteration of the character. This movie didn't even try and fight and they have general's even thinking Superman has a secret identity when he's maskless and nearly a god, is bad writing on Snyder and Goyers parts. That's about as far as I can get Into this bullshit.
Man, honestly I’m confused when they people say that this is the best Superman ever or that MOS is the best Superman movie. I am genuinely confused because I really want to know, what’s good with this Superman? What makes him the best? This is the worst portrayal of Superman I’ve ever seen and I cannot for the life of me fathom how people can say this is the best Superman or best movies.
Cavill and Reeves may hve starred in roughly the same amount of movies, but Cavill was only protagonist in one film, so the comparison isn’t really fair
Henry Cavill is actually a good Superman the problem is he suffered from bad writing shitty direction and WB Constantly screwing him over To me it's kind of like X-Men and Fantastic 4, Where you have the right cast but the wrong crew behind it & Actors shouldn't be Fully blamed for shitty writing & terrible direction
Here is my take if Christopher Reeve was A perfect superman Henry Cavill was A good superman. When I first heard the news that they would be casting him I wasn't too happy to know someone being British being casted in the role to play the kryptonian son from Smallville, Kansas. But you know what after seeing what they did with the character despite having him wreck the city and ticking off A lot of Christians with the Jesus symbolism I think everything about him was superman. I can understand where James Gunn is coming from wanting A younger looking Clark Kent because Henry Cavill superman is someone who looks to be between the years 25-35 not someone who is A recent college intern who is new and ready to make A new start in the big city. Now yes I am aware at the end of man of steel they had him do the same thing. Truthfully I am bummed that James Gunn removed him from the role but perhaps it is for the best this comes from the same man who directed the improved suicide squad and three of the GOTG movies. perhaps the best thing we can do is just give this man A chance and see what he does. Now yes I was absolutely heart broken but I think if all goes well this could pan out in the end and not put such A bad reputation on DC live-action movies since they seem to do better in their animated endeavors. Given that their competition and inspiration the MCU is in tatters due to obvious reasons of which I will not go into since that would be changing the subject this would be A step up to show the consumers that their is still awe and magic in this franchise and James Gunn knows this well becoming DC`s Kevin Feige so while this is A national tragedy such ends can bring new beginnings, despite everything Mr. Cavill and his fans went through their is always A brighter future ahead even if the superman movie fails there will always be people wanting to tell these stories from A character that is going to be turning 100 in the next decade so I hope and probably know James Gunn will treat this ole timer with the love and respect he deserves for truth, justice, and the AMERICAN way. God bless everyone and have A wonderful day.
MOS was the first time I actually could take a live action Superman as a serious character. Theres action that is mindblowing too. Movie could have been a little bit longer though.
I don't agree with your take on Snyder's Superman and his trajectory that maybe could have happened. Superman is a great person because of his good-natured parents who raised him. Of course, it's okay for Superman to have some apprehension about being everyone's symbol of hope, but he should still just do the right thing whenever he needs to. I'm just hoping that we get a Legion of Superheroes movie that chronicles Superboy and his training to be a hero in the future.
Superman is hard to cast he has to have a perfect square jaw faced handsome face and also can act Chris reeve was perfect cavill second welling corensweet and others have a V shaped face
Snyder Superman is a simp for Lois Lane. Simps over Lois Lane and easily turns evil and joins Darkseid after her death. The only reason Snyder Superman snaps back to reality after being resurrected is cause of Lois Lane. And Snyder Superman says Lois is “his world”. It is not Superman if the only reason he is a hero is just cause of Lois Lane.
Yes, Vee said in a previous post that there was going to be reuploads every sundays, and sometimes also in the week IIRC The post in question wasn't stickied so it's a bit tough to find it again... but if you see a DC video, you can be almost sure it's a reupload.
Yes well, all I can say is anyone, just in general, who has a problem with writers adding depth to a character officially doesn't know SHIT about good writing, and will probably go on some day to get a job writing tripe like Yellowstone or something else completely undeserving of it's praise. 😅
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I have to say Christopher Reeves is my favorite Superman but Henry Cavill comes as a close second for me
They both work perfectly for different generation's of Superman
I agree with you both.
A Henry Cavill Superman sequel and potential will always be my personal biggest "what if" of CBM history. He was genuinely perfect for the role. But they completely wasted his time in the cape. Man Of Steel was such a great starting point for the character that we all know from the comics, TV, and cinema. And the worst part is that Henry absolutely loves Superman and loved playing him. He wanted all of the same things we did. And was ready to deliver.
James Gunn better make a damn good movie with Superman: Legacy, or this will hurt even more than it already does.
And that's the one thing that pisses me off about Superman fans that claim they understand Superman. They say man is still sucks yeah? You just said it was a good starting point that's exactly what it was. That's why it was called man of steel not Superman. He wasn't Superman in this movie until maybe the end and even then hes not really Superman. Until the end of his action nightmares Justice League what people are forgetting is we're witnessing the reverse of this Batman. And the rise of this Superman hes not Superman until the end of the next night is Justice League. That's when he has been oh I need to go do what i need to do and hes fucking frightened staffing with the whole time with. A smirk and like it's nothing hes literally become Superman and people claim they understand his character from the comics. Yet hate man of steel I understand some of the things of him destroying the truck. The trucker that put beer onest face and maybe how his dad died? You can be a little stupid bat the same time when they claim that Superman just destroyed. The? Fuck out. Of metropolis are you rude idiots? Not understanding the the damage from the soup and not alone is just too cryptonian. You're not thinking about what the world engine would have done. It would have been successful and it would have completely altered Earth. And then you're also not thinking about that even the scientific cryptonians if they were to go into our atmosphere without their visors and start absorbing yellow. Sunlight and breathe in our oxygen that they wouldn't just start develop in super powers like God and his 2 generals so not only would you have. Zod in his generals but also super scientists who can kill any human or military personnel because they are just as invincible as Superman maybe not as strong. Because hes been absorbed in all this yellow sun for 2 decades 2 and a 1/2 decades but you've got to. Understand at that point even if it's only 20 to 30 criptonians. That's enough power to level Earth 10 times more than a nuclear bomb like they can literally drill to the core of the Earth and blow us up just by. Flying and into it and they might die but there'd be other corporations left. You guys don't seem to understand the stakes that the new blood Superman had to deal with. If he didn't snap zod's neck refer to the end of the Flash. This is what would happen we would have lost. Marshall manhunter would have been a bitch and let us all die because let's face it. He can't fight cryptonians hand the hand he get his ass walyes. Yes I don't understand how people can say they love Superman and hate man and steal and not understand this is literally the superman's origin story. It's his beginning hes not at the daily planet yet is not even in metropolis. And hes not even in smallville anymore hes going through his journey pretty much. What smallville Clark can't went through except staying in smallville metropolis. He went through that save and people randomly work in different jobs figuring out who he was or what he wanted to be and if he was ever gonna. Reveal himself this was literally an origin for Superman and yet you guys don't understand that now I get after this film things were rushed badly versus. Superman should have had a individual Batman film and another man of steel films so we could fully appreciate cable in the Cape and suit as soups before killing. Them off because that's their biggest mistake they ever did was kill them off. I remember being legit. Intimately pissed off in the theater saying they were retards for bringing in doomsday this early. I mean two movies in is very very early
Tyler Hoechiln needs his flowers for his depiction and role played as Superman!
Henry Cavill suffered the same problem I had with Ben Affleck. He was perfectly casted, but had bad material. And that’s the fault of Zack Snyder and the writers.
Yes!! The dceu needed to be retold not rebooted!
Sucks that Henry had to suffer twice for the same problem, him being perfectly casted as Superman and Geralt but the material was terrible
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@@lloyd777 the dcu is gonna fail under gunn.
@@RewindthetimesThe DCEU already fell under Snyder. Gunn can't do much worse than him. Have you watched Peacemaker. That show had NO business being as good as it was. I was shocked.
I trust Gunn more than anyone else right now.
I was never a massive fan of cavils superman, but once I saw him at the end of black Adam I really thought he finally looked perfect and I was so excited that we might finally get a worthy writer to give Henry a great script to work with. It’s a shame that e won’t see that but I’m still really excited for Gunns version of the character and I hope David correnswet gets cast
He was cast. Im really sad to see henry go, he was the superman i grew up with but i cant wait to see what davids going to bring to the table
I remember the first time I saw a production photo of Henry Cavill on the MoS set, he was standing besides a helicopter in front of a green screen, he was unshaved and had no costume, just some wet pants.
And there he was: Superman. That was the Superman I had always wanted to see on screen. Like he was ripped out of the JLU cartoon and given flesh.
I loved the Christopher Reeves films back when I was a kid, I still do. But to me this was a new version, one that no one could tell me was lame, specially when compared to Batman. No, I could just see him bench pressing the fcking moon.
Hell, that 5yo me in the back of my brain still kind of expects Cavill to rip his shirt and take flight in the middle of a Warhammer interview.
We have an actor who not only fits Supes as perfectly as RDJ fit iron Man or Chris Evans Captain America, but he was a nerd who respected the source material and brought that respect to the role. And WB threw the diamond they had away. SMFH.
I hate that Hack Snyder wasted an actor of Cavill's caliber to try and make Edgy Alien Jesus.
I don’t know why we can’t have two Superman movies, one with Henry Cavill & the other one, with the new guy.
Just like they’re doing two Batman movies.
I just rewatched man of steel yesterday and couldn’t believe how good it was
I may not be a fan of the DCEU movies Henry Cavill was in, but Henry Cavill was Superman. Not my favorite live action Superman, but the definitively my favorite live action Superman in appearance.
I thought Man of Steel was-GREAT-and enjoyed the film very much.
Not gonna repeat what a lot of ppl have said already, but to me to be a great Superman an actor HAS to understand the character deeply & what has made him endure for so long. I really think Henry understood that & its sad he never got to play the more joyful version fully.
I prefer the Superman we got he more of a badass
I don’t understand the Superman thing. why do we have to wait for a character to shine as the character when Christopher reeves shined as Superman in his first movie. Tyler Hoechlin shined as Superman in his first episode as the character, cavil had 2 movies, it’s snyders fault that Superman was the way he was. he was never gonna become the Superman we all know and love because it was intentional to make him dark and edgy, people are more in love with the idea of what his Superman could have been instead of what his Superman actually was. snyders Superman was intended to be that way because WB wanted to get with the times there was no road to a hopeful Superman I guarantee he could have had 5 more movies and he still would have been dark and edgy
@@deltaproductions313 Superman is joyful and compassionate in the comics and is still 100x more badass then Cavil
@@solen5529than* and yeah reeves wasn’t that comic accurate
@@runisathe "dark and edgy" strawman narrative is long dead, move on
I’ll be honest. I personally don’t think that people truly thought Cavill was the best Superman. But I think they fell in love with the potential that he could’ve been the best. To me, he wasn’t around enough to really prove this. He was literally in 2 1/2 films lol. I really liked him, but I think it’s a little odd saying he’s the best when he wasn’t even in enough to showcase it fully. There was so much potential with Cavill to become that in the future. But since it didn’t happen, people calling him the best doesn’t make sense to me.
Finally! For love of god finally!someone who sees what I see I was beginning to think I was the only one like people really out here calling best Superman like Christopher or the iron man of DCEU when iron man was in 11 movies
Oh someone else like me exists. Holy shit
I agree, like because of the scripts he was given he was barely Superman to begin with. Do I think he had the potential? Sure, I really enjoy him as an actor. But it's just potential, we never actually saw much of it onscreen. I'm not particularly mourning him being gone for that reason - he didn't actually show me much Superman thanks to everything about the Snyderverse. Potential is not the same thing as what we actually got.
I don’t understand the Superman thing. why do we have to wait for a character to shine as the character when Christopher reeves shined as Superman in his first movie. Tyler Hoechlin shined as Superman in his first episode as the character, cavil had 2 movies, it’s snyders fault that Superman was the way he was. he was never gonna become the Superman we all know and love because it was intentional to make him dark and edgy, people are more in love with the idea of what his Superman could have been instead of what his Superman actually was. snyders Superman was intended to be that way because WB wanted to get with the times there was no road to a hopeful Superman I guarantee he could have had 5 more movies and he still would have been dark and edgy
The Clark Kent glasses have much more going for it than "just a pair of glasses". Watch the Reeves version and it shows all the little tricks that Clark uses, not to mention vibrating his face at superspeed in photos when he is Superman, and there has been COUNTLESS issues devoted to all the tricks that Clark uses to differentiate his identities-I'm so over this argument with literally NO research from the commentator stating the disguise is crap. Hell, Cavill himself stood in a Superman S t-shirt in Times Square under the BvS bill board trying to get recognized for a day-with no glasses, and NO ONE knew him! Come on.
I think Cavill could be a good Superman if he was given the right script.
That's what he and Ben Affleck needed, a good script
Agreed
He fit the suit and carries himself so well. He deserved a legendary script
Damn Right
I love how people just like, say shit like that, and don't explain themselves. Usually because they can't and have no fucking clue what makes for a good script. Man of Steel reminded me so much of a DCAU movie in particular it's not even funny. For those who aren't aware, that's a very good thing. See, description. A valid one, at that. On and don't even start with the "Superman would never kill" bullshit. He can in the comics for the needs of the many. If you don't know that then you shouldn't be commenting on the character whatsoever, thanks.
Superman is the definition of superhero
This is my biggest gripe with the 'new DC'. Cavill embidies the look of Superman perfectly. Gunn is making a huge mistake by ejecting him as the figurehead of the DC Universe.
Im perfectly ok with the obvious secret identity because no matter, there is going to be some suspension of disbelief. Im my mind, if a guy can fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes, I can buy that glasses and a meek personality are a good enough disguise
I just wanna see a good adaptation of the character something like American alien, birthright or secret origins. He’s just a man with powers doing what he can. I think they need to follow the Batman and maybe pick up from like year 3-4
I don’t understand the Superman thing. why do we have to wait for a character to shine as the character when Christopher reeves shined as Superman in his first movie. Tyler Hoechlin shined as Superman in his first episode as the character, cavil had 2 movies, it’s snyders fault that Superman was the way he was. he was never gonna become the Superman we all know and love because it was intentional to make him dark and edgy, people are more in love with the idea of what his Superman could have been instead of what his Superman actually was. snyders Superman was intended to be that way because WB wanted to get with the times there was no road to a hopeful Superman I guarantee he could have had 5 more movies and he still would have been dark and edgy
I fully agree with you on Henry Cavill really got the short end of the stick. Doomsday should of been its own film closer to when the movies start to tire out or you build up to like say End game was. You then end the film with the rise of the four Supermen. Having Henry play Cyborg Superman, Black Suit Superman, and The Eradicator which at first was thought to be Superman. We would see all three maybe even add Superboy in like the comics and asking if Superman will be back or who is Superman?
They threw out a chance to really make record numbers. If you think End Game went big. If you did the Death of Superman right with Cavill. We really would have had a great movie. The rise of Supermen would end up like Infinity War. However, DC has been just dropping the ball from one movie to another. I love the new Supergirl actually, but DC can't be given credit for a long term ability to allow a director to do what they want and give us a good film.
With some of the cast they had in place a well built world would have been pretty good. All wasted in haste
I'm sorry, but Clark Kent is essential to the Superman mythos. Saying that it's not justified is kind of missing the forest for the trees. Clark alters is entire appearance, his posture, the direction his hair is swept off to. It's an effective disguise, despite how much people meme on it. Could Cavil play an effective Clark? Maybe? But he didn't. Reeve managed to make both performances feel like separate people, and transformed between the two effortlessly. Cavil's Superman feels so stiff in comparison. Like, if Reeve's Superman was to interact with any villain, any other version of Superman, regardless of size or costume, he'd outshine them in performance and presence alone.
You should check out Mark Waid's Kingdom Come comic-kind of Superman's own Dark Knight Returns book. It puts the MAN before the SUPER and definitely shows why Clark must always put that first. Every panel is painted and beautiful. You'd dig it.
18:54 man, with all due respect, you COULDN'T BE MORE WRONG ABOUT THAT.
He didn't just save the city once; he saved the entire planet from being subjected to genocide and then be turned into Krypton. There's a world of difference. Of course he would deserve a statue.
Henry in that B.A. Post credit scene look soo good ..he just looked
Exactly like Supes even more !!😢 2:07
Henry Cavill could have been a great Superman if he was just allowed to act like Superman. This is shown in the theatrical cut of justice league and even in his short cameo in Black Adam. Henry Cavill actually acts like Superman in those movies, and does a good job at it. Man of steel and especially the snyder cut of justice league just seems to not let Henry Cavill be Superman, especially when he should have been Superman in those films. The closest Zack gets to having Henry Cavill be Superman is the ultimate edition of BvS, and it still starts off bad by having Superman save Lois by tackling a normal man through walls. It just shows that Henry Cavill was never the problem with his portrayal of Superman. He just needed a better director that understands who Superman is and what he stands for. th-cam.com/play/PL-DeArxLd9idZvxfshRVfk6jtC2DNqv0y.html
Exactly.
Nobody’s ever actually made a reason to why Clark Kent’s disguise works? It’s been explained in some of the most popular books.
The most common portrayal is the explanation given in All Star Superman. He doesn’t just wear the glasses. He wears baggier clothes to make himself look chubbier. He walks with a slouch to make himself look shorter. He acts extremely clumsy, because who would expect Superman to be a bumbling oaf?
Another explanation in an older comic(which I personally despise) is that his glasses emit low level physic energy to hypnotize people into not seeing him as Superman.
In terms of the Snyderverse? They really never did pull it off it was just Superman with a suit and glasses. His suit was tight, showing off his muscles. His posture was powerful, making him full height. He never acted clumsy from what we saw, taking away that aspect as well. Henry Cavill was an alright Superman. But he was a downright awful Clark Kent. His jaw line alone would be hard to miss in a crowd of thousands of people
Christopher Reeve IS Superman. Ironically, Cavill only got Superman/Kal/Clark Kent done right at the end of Justice League 2017...because he started acting like Reeve.
Leave this character to Reeve, because even in death, he's superior. Cavill's perfected character is Geralt Of Rivia from The Witcher.
He actually was a good Suoerman
He was a really good suoerman
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Thank u for showing some clips of dean cain as supes since ppl always seem to forget him
issue is everyone says man of steel didnt understand superman yet forget to realize he's not superman until the end of thr film....realistically how would he stop the kryptonians without a phantom zone gun nor other options, watch the flash movie and see what had happened if clark hadnt broke zods neck....
Lately you've been doing comics related nonstop content. I think it's great, but will you be doing any wrestling content any time soon? Thanks for your work!!
Yes. I actually have a whole bunch planned
@@VI_V2 Henry Cavill is NOT Superman. His Superman didn't care about people, he threw Zod into active buildings. Zack Snyder was doing the Injustice storyline, which is the least Superman story ever. Christopher Reeves would never choose to save Lois Lane and doom the world.
I rember seeing that inside edition video where Henry stood in the middle of ny for 1 hour and no one recognized him.
Supes chose the black suit on the ship because it absorb the sunlight more, solar energy from the sun., also, that suit he wore in the Black Adam cameo scene was the .an of Steel suit, the colors were enhanced (non filter)
Poor dude poured his heart and soul into being Superman AND The Witcher and gets screwed both times by the team surrounding him (writers, producers...) It sucks.
I love him as superman and Man Of Steel is a comfort movie for me. But I believe he was born to play The Witcher...his passion for the character bleed into his performance beautifully.
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Your quote at this timestamp is ironic because that's exaxtly what youre doing when talking about how The Death of Superman is used in BVS. We know it's a grand event in the comics and involved a lot of characters at his funeral, but the reason for it being done in BVS was to show this was how Humanity learned to trust Superman because the basis was that the Snyderverse is set a realistic world like ours and it was showing that distrustful, skeptical and confrontational aspect of human nature, something also reflected through Batfleck.
And it's weird that you complain about fan service and then a few sentences later you say how much you wish Supermans Funeral could've been bigger Fan Service.
At the end of the day, Film is a vastly different medium from comics and it can never be translated one to one.
it's a bummer, for sure, but at least we still have hoechlin
Henry Cavill is a Great Superman but the Direction of WB and Writers Tainted that Potential that maybe Recasting Him could be the Best Choice but it’s just my Opinion.
I would love nothing more than for you to do a video about the two different versions of Justice League.
Yes.
"Pick a lane." He did pick a Lane. Her name was Lois.
...I'll show myself out.
I never really liked Zach Snyder's vision with Superman, but, like my dislike of the Amazing Spider-Man movies, the Actor was never the problem.
He looks the part and always seemed to give it his all. I would have loved to see more Cavill Superman in James Gunn's DC slate, but I suppose you only know what you've got when it's gone
U clearly are clue less hater
Of course you don't, as you wouldn't genuinely know what makes for interesting writing, and cannot handle anything less than absolutely uninspired cookie cutter drivel. Just like so many others. Be proud.
Breaks my heart how WB, Zack, and half the fanbase treated Henry Cavill during his run as Superman.
A previous WB executive (who has since quit WB) effectively shadow banned him from future projects (shelving a MoS sequel indefinitely) after JL, for a completely undisclosed, likely petty, reason.
Zack hardly gave Henry a quality script to work with. Unfortunately increasingly leaning towards his edgy “dictator Superman” storyline he planted the seeds for in BvS. Since Zack refuses to let superheroes just be good for the sake of being good.
The fans turned on Henry for: A) not being Christopher Reeve… and B) for the piss poor decision making Zack Snyder and his team of writers were shaping Henry’s Superman up to be. They hardly gave Henry a chance, and stooped to utter rejection of him for the script and direction he wasn’t responsible for.
I fully believed him when he promised that his Superman would be happier after his cameo in Black Adam. He wanted to make things right with the fans because Henry has always been an avid supporter of the fanbase (which makes total sense because he was clearly a fanboy of the character as well).
Henry had the look, the demeanor, the acting chops, the suit, the physique, the incredible score/theme song, the drive, the passion, and the will to give us an incredible Superman… perhaps the best live action Superman… but he was never given the opportunity, because at every turn he was shackled and abruptly stopped by the people behind the DCEU. Truly the biggest waste of an enormous amount of potential…
I wish Henry Cavill the best… you were slept on big time, and you’ll always be… at least to me… the best live action Superman we’ve ever had to this day!
I remember thinking well henry's back and james gunn is taking over. They'll let these movies play out and gunn will reintroduce henry in a new movie and slowly build upon that, keep everything from the past but make it new and fresh . Obviously this wasn't to be and I feel bad for henry. But WB is sitting there with comic artists, writers and an animation department. Why not continue the snyderverse, henry cavil and black adam saga with these medias? Make more money on those than the constant cinema flops
The two biggest criticisms of Man of Steel was letting his father die and not caring about collateral damage. Thoughts?
The ladder I agree the former no that was MEEDED
His father told him not to. He held his hand out to stop him and shake his head.
Telling him in a silent way to not save him. He didn't think the world was ready for Clark to show what he was. And didn't want his son to be targeted by the government. Not knowing what they might do to his wife and son.
Can't do much any collateral damage all superheros have it. Especially if the villain is on par or more powerful than the hero.
I don’t understand the Superman thing. why do we have to wait for a character to shine as the character when Christopher reeves shined as Superman in his first movie. Tyler Hoechlin shined as Superman in his first episode as the character, cavil had 2 movies, it’s snyders fault that Superman was the way he was. he was never gonna become the Superman we all know and love because it was intentional to make him dark and edgy, people are more in love with the idea of what his Superman could have been instead of what his Superman actually was. snyders Superman was intended to be that way because WB wanted to get with the times there was no road to a hopeful Superman I guarantee he could have had 5 more movies and he still would have been dark and edgy
I don't get how some people embrace mediocrity like that. LOOKS IS NOT EVERYTHING. He might look good in the suit, but the man cannot act. He's so stoic in everything he does, it's painful to watch. People who say he is irreplaceable don't have the highest standards in my opinion.
yeah the disguise is one of the few things from recent live action i dont like. in the comics people dont really assume superman has a secret identity because he doesnt wear a mask but he also moves around so fast there isnt many great clear 4k images of supermans face. plus clark in the comics slouches so hes a few inches shorter, has glasses (some comics that say even changes hes eye color) wears baggy clothes and he parts his hair completely different. clark is also really introverted and clumsy. there is a lot of pyschological stuff to help back it up and explained well in the comics but except for the chris reeves stuff its just glasses in the live action and its kinda a let down. fact friend did a great video on why it actually works in the comics
Cavill is a very cool guy and his humility will always be appreciated. I say he could've been an awesome Superman, but he was never truly directed to play Superman. I never liked the DC Snyder films, to me they are trash because Snyder's style was opposite what the DC films needed to be, and that is why they were failures. Many say the "Snyder Cut"was good, I say it was a longer version of the trash the JL film already was. Many blame Whedon for that failure but there is no way that film was going to work no matter who they brought to finish it, it was Snyder who ruined it from the start. I respect he had a vision, but it was 100% the wrong vision for what the DC films needed to be, specially if they wanted to make something as good as the earlier Marvel films. Cavill never played Superman and he knows it, thankfully he has the right attitude and maturity to surpass and survive the current Hollywood trash and continue on. God bless him.
The Justice League’s cast is perfect imo. Too bad most of them are going to be replaced.
Please tell me you endorse that character in your pfp and not the actual person
@@Mr.DontOverThinkItmy profile picture is the flash but in my opinion saying a person is bad because of disproven allegations is stupid. i’m not saying they’re a good person because i don’t know them in real life.
@@imstuff205 I don't think the allegations were ever disproven. At least not every single one of them, which is quite a list. But so long as you support that character not the person, idrc.
@@Mr.DontOverThinkIt this video covers them pretty well if you're interested. i wanted to say more but youtube keeps deleting my replies. th-cam.com/video/ZnN3ZiVBcgg/w-d-xo.html
Ezra Miller always a terrible choice for the flash. Looks nothing like him and is a predator and groomer in real-life. Snyder actually looked at Ezra and said “he would be a good superhero!”
Ahhh but Vee, Cavill walks through the New York city In a Superman tee shirt and is not recognized at all. While right under a poster of him in MoS!!
Even as someone is not a Superman fan and have seen the max fleischer even I feel bad for Henry cavil as Superman he could have been a really great Superman and really given the chance he pretty much became the Andrew Garfield spiderman of Superman
It's a shame he never got to live up to his true potential. Unfortunately the writing surrounding never did the character justice and Zack Snyder never really understood the character of Superman. The reason Superman is essential in the world of comics is because represents the good and hope within all of us. He's kind, compassionate, understanding, he is gentle, he is teachable and is not afraid to show emotion and affection. In a universe filled with heroes with emotional baggage, Superman is an emotionally healthy hero who while still wrestles with his own demons, he still doesn't let those demons define him and he represents the goodness within all of us. I honestly really dislike all the Superman suits Henry wore. They look two alien made when in the comics they are supposed to look homemade as if his mother made it.
Well said.
Actually, the best Superman lore of recent times in comics, and the most well received, have been one shots and miniseries that deal with the fact that no, Superman does indeed have flaws. Which is great, because I'm sorry but a bastion of goodness flying brick is a fucking boring concept no matter which one you're talking about. That's probably why those characters tend to be considered relics by actual comics writers. Just saying I mean...
@@SidNightWalker Did you not pay attention to what I was saying at all? Of course Superman is a flawed character but he's flawed in a way that is actually not taken to the stupendous extreme. I'm sorry that there's something within you that makes you refuse to accept that there can actually be someone who really is a genuinely good person.
@@The_Phantasm just like in the movies, so why are you complaining? That's what the Snyder movies were very much based on is more recent additions to the comic book lore. Not that I'd figure people would get that, of course. He wasn't taken to anything extreme in any way. So...?
Oh and for the record? Reality, is why a bastion of perfection character doesn't work for me. Most of the time, anyway. Superman TAS actually is another really good example of making Superman interesting, through his interactions with different villains and how he did show genuine intelligent depth. That's a style of writing Superman that does work well, I'll admit.
Superman is an alien,pretending to be-HUMAN.
In my opinion, it is quite obvious that there is a missing Superman movie to fill in the character arc between MOS and BVS. Additionally, the Death of Superman should have been the conclusive ending of a Superman trilogy, similar to the way Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy concluded.
Hey i love your videos
Is it possible if you could do a video on Tyler Hoechlins Superman 😅
I "grew up" with Christpher Reeves as Superman... and to me, HENRY CAVILL is Superman.
The way he (and us fans) were baited and switched is a large part of the reason that I will be BOYCOTTING James Gunns rebooted dcu.
The black suit was never indicative of an "edgy" (or "more edgier", as you so ineloquently said it) Superman... it's his "recharge" suit, because black absorbes light better than lighter colors.
The MULLET was supposed to indicate an edgier 'Supes.
Henry Cavill could’ve easily have been a much better Superman than Christopher Reeves or the voice actors who played him. In the animated shows and movies since the 90s. However unfortunately, the material given to him. Rarely allowed him to be beloved by everybody. Or be objectively being the best version of Superman possible.
He deserved better!!
Why so many reuploads my man?
Although Cavill obviously is a beautiful male specimen and his Superman was truly good to watch, for me as a long-time Superman comics reader it never came across as the real Superman, I was more like those special editions when they combined 2 different characters into one in "what if" or alternative universe type of thing, this thing about an angry dark Grimm superhero is more Batman territory, superman was always a boy scout with superpowers, Christoper Reeves still the one that more accurate not only in looks but on how he was portraited, that guy from Superman return was also great but the film itself was bad, Henry Cavill is a good actor he could be a more faithful interpretation of superman, but that was not what Zack had in mind, so is a shame I were unable to see Cavill superman done by a different writer and director, he could emerge as the most gorgeous and accurate superman of them all
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I love Henry Cavill as Superman, but Man of Steel was the character assassination of Jonathan Kent.
That's what I say when I see Christopher Reeve Henry is okay but Chris Reeve is Superman
Even Tyler’s Superman is better than cavill’s . Christopher Reeves is the best for sure
Henry is the 2nd best superman ever after the late Christopher Reeves.
So the SUPERMAN Suit from BLACK ADAM was the MAN OF STEEL Suit. It just didn't have Snyder's color desaturation lens over it. Which still bothers me to today. But it fine.😅
Clarke Kent would be outed by face recognition tech nowadays, maybe they don't have that yet in metropolis.
I cant wait for him in Warhammer.
We live in a Universe where MCU Captain America is the Closes embodiment of Superman.
Cavill now makes the perfect Bizarro or Ultraman.
Superman was born Superman.
Sad 😔 😢
Superman is born Superman
him and Hugh Jackman look the part heavily lol
The glasses are kryptonian and alter his face slightly to the people around him. I think......
New Superman didn't need to address Clark's glasses because it's been explained in previous films, shows and comics. Snyder doesn't treat his fans like idiots. But he really should.
Best super man of all time
I just hate the state WB was in pushing and pulling EVERYONE around even actors who were just trying to do a job.
I don't like how he was written of course and pretty much all the Superman focused movies in the DCEU were probably some of my personally more hated ones, even ones he just had a cameo in.
That said I didn't hate Henry as Superman, it was never his performance or anything about him that sucked about the character just everything else that surrounded him. After every movie they made I can say I only liked one movie, Shazam. And then they immediately fucked up the sequel when they signed on the rock who kept pushing his character away from his intended rival just to have a ultimately doomed and dropped Adam Versus Superman story nobody really wanted.
They wanted what Marvel had, with a fraction of the movies, and chemistry.
Zack Snyder didn't understand the characters of Superman &/or Batman. 1st image in 1st trailer of Bats, he was holding an assault rifle & a leak said tht Supes could kill, but Not smile and tht was a rule
I really wish Hollywood producers could take the time to listen to the common sense logic that comes from some content creators. They could save themselves from lots of failure.
He will always my superman hopefully one day he could return to the role #restorethesnyderverse #manofsteel2
Henry Cavill is an Amazing Superman. He brings a certain amount of emotional pull and gravitas to Clark Kent/Superman character.
People keep saying that Man of Steel is too Dark need a better script they should define what is a better script or problems with his role This is the FAULT of those on WB they should have left Snyder continue as he would have evolved into the Superman we know only if we let him develop into more movies....... Man of Steel was just his first origin story he isnt the Superman we know
Tmgis disguise is normal. No one would expect him to look just like them. Its like adam sandler walking down the street most people barely notice him. Because hes dressed like a normal man you would be walking by on the street. He doesn't bring attention to himself.
I assume that's the same thing with superman as clark kent.
saddest opening to a video
No, he moves very closely to the speed of sound.
Superman was born Superman
Yeah, I don't think a statue for someone who saved the entire world once is over the top. And considering a major plot element was how people ware fuckin with that statue addresses the issue of it being controversial.
Superman stopped an alien invasion from his own home planet! Although thousands died save he saved billions!! A giant statue wasn't deserved?! He chose Earth over Kypton!!
It was pretty much a trope like Optimus dying in the second movie.. I'm sure there's way more. 🤣 Deadpool.. kinda..
1:35 literal man-baby😂
Tylers version of Superman is Next to henrys version
What's your favorite line of dialog of Henry Cavill's Superman? Was it GRRRRRRR OR Aaaaaarrrrrggggghh
This is the worst video of yours I've ever watched. I tried to give it a shot. I hate this Snyderverse but do you like you well enough.
But you can't in one breath say the film doesn't do enough to justify the Clark Kent identity, and then say it emphasizes the man over the steel.
Them getting Jonathan Kent wrong killed this entire universe.
It was the Kents that made Superman into Big Blue Boy scout, not him killing Zod.
In the second movie had visions of him turning evil so if you think for one second the intention was for him to become the Big Blue Boy scout that we all knew and loved, you're sadly mistaken.
In Clark secret identity isn't the hardest part of the Mythos get right it's one of the most important parts and has been done well in nearly every other iteration of the character. This movie didn't even try and fight and they have general's even thinking Superman has a secret identity when he's maskless and nearly a god, is bad writing on Snyder and Goyers parts.
That's about as far as I can get Into this bullshit.
Man, honestly I’m confused when they people say that this is the best Superman ever or that MOS is the best Superman movie. I am genuinely confused because I really want to know, what’s good with this Superman? What makes him the best? This is the worst portrayal of Superman I’ve ever seen and I cannot for the life of me fathom how people can say this is the best Superman or best movies.
Cavill and Reeves may hve starred in roughly the same amount of movies, but Cavill was only protagonist in one film, so the comparison isn’t really fair
Henry Cavill is actually a good Superman the problem is he suffered from bad writing shitty direction and WB Constantly screwing him over
To me it's kind of like X-Men and Fantastic 4, Where you have the right cast but the wrong crew behind it & Actors shouldn't be Fully blamed for shitty writing & terrible direction
Here is my take if Christopher Reeve was A perfect superman Henry Cavill was A good superman. When I first heard the news that they would be casting him I wasn't too happy to know someone being British being casted in the role to play the kryptonian son from Smallville, Kansas. But you know what after seeing what they did with the character despite having him wreck the city and ticking off A lot of Christians with the Jesus symbolism I think everything about him was superman. I can understand where James Gunn is coming from wanting A younger looking Clark Kent because Henry Cavill superman is someone who looks to be between the years 25-35 not someone who is A recent college intern who is new and ready to make A new start in the big city. Now yes I am aware at the end of man of steel they had him do the same thing. Truthfully I am bummed that James Gunn removed him from the role but perhaps it is for the best this comes from the same man who directed the improved suicide squad and three of the GOTG movies. perhaps the best thing we can do is just give this man A chance and see what he does. Now yes I was absolutely heart broken but I think if all goes well this could pan out in the end and not put such A bad reputation on DC live-action movies since they seem to do better in their animated endeavors. Given that their competition and inspiration the MCU is in tatters due to obvious reasons of which I will not go into since that would be changing the subject this would be A step up to show the consumers that their is still awe and magic in this franchise and James Gunn knows this well becoming DC`s Kevin Feige so while this is A national tragedy such ends can bring new beginnings, despite everything Mr. Cavill and his fans went through their is always A brighter future ahead even if the superman movie fails there will always be people wanting to tell these stories from A character that is going to be turning 100 in the next decade so I hope and probably know James Gunn will treat this ole timer with the love and respect he deserves for truth, justice, and the AMERICAN way. God bless everyone and have A wonderful day.
MOS was the first time I actually could take a live action Superman as a serious character. Theres action that is mindblowing too. Movie could have been a little bit longer though.
I don't agree with your take on Snyder's Superman and his trajectory that maybe could have happened. Superman is a great person because of his good-natured parents who raised him. Of course, it's okay for Superman to have some apprehension about being everyone's symbol of hope, but he should still just do the right thing whenever he needs to. I'm just hoping that we get a Legion of Superheroes movie that chronicles Superboy and his training to be a hero in the future.
Superman is hard to cast he has to have a perfect square jaw faced handsome face and also can act Chris reeve was perfect cavill second welling corensweet and others have a V shaped face
Henry would've been a perfect Superman if it wasn't for Zack Snyder he ruined Henry's chances of ever playing a decent Superman
Snyder Superman is a simp for Lois Lane. Simps over Lois Lane and easily turns evil and joins Darkseid after her death. The only reason Snyder Superman snaps back to reality after being resurrected is cause of Lois Lane. And Snyder Superman says Lois is “his world”. It is not Superman if the only reason he is a hero is just cause of Lois Lane.
Re upload?
Yes, Vee said in a previous post that there was going to be reuploads every sundays, and sometimes also in the week IIRC
The post in question wasn't stickied so it's a bit tough to find it again... but if you see a DC video, you can be almost sure it's a reupload.
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Yes well, all I can say is anyone, just in general, who has a problem with writers adding depth to a character officially doesn't know SHIT about good writing, and will probably go on some day to get a job writing tripe like Yellowstone or something else completely undeserving of it's praise. 😅