To be fair, when your entire career is centered around being "unsafe," and that's what your fans come to expect, then perhaps being "safe" is actually the boldest move to make.
solid track, a radio friendly lead single is such a good move. the one off of her previous album was too distorted for the average listener to get into / enjoy.
I don't mind Poppy making more mainstream music. This song - along with everything else she's done - is absolutely amazing. Mother never disappoints 🔥🔥‼️‼️
It's very much a straight down the line nu-metal track for me, kinda nostalgic, zig for me took a lot of risks, with the kinda harsh minimalistic industrial/dark pop sound, i liked it a lot but loads of people didn't seem to know what to make of it, this is more digestible and nicely different to zig
I wondered why the tones sounded so familiar and polished and wasn't surprised to see Jordan worked on this. guitars and song structure reminded me a ton of curse by architects and now I know why haha
Yeah, rather unusual sound for her. Good track but I hope she'll have a good number of more experimental songs on the rest of the album. I adore the I Disagree and Zig albums.
The chorus is a bit lacking but overall I like the song, it still has those special Poppy elements and I always love hearing her scream. She needs a good generic radio hit at this point, she's been around for a long time and doing heavier music for a while and this might help her get a little more recognition.
No harm having a straight up, undisputed banger every now and then to act as an "in point" for the more adventurous stuff. Nice Shirley Mason chest voice lower range in the verse and the high bit switching down to a scream at the end will be great live. There is nothing safe about the vocals. Also.... this really got into my head (the chorus!) , and there are some fun meta references......
THANK YOU Im not the only one who thinks this music sound very standard to modern metal stadards! it's not bad in any way but i didn't found the spark of VAN or Suffocate
i think zig album was safe. im just glad she is still rocking. i think the chorus is the commercial part but the rest is great. i love that she has a signature scream. that little whine or whale at the end of a scream.
I enjoyed the chorus, but I agree, it was a little to radio friendly and safe, and lyrically kind of generic, but I LOVED the rest of the song. Everything surrounding the chorus was great.
Shes basicaly the most versatile and unpredictable artist goong today.... maybe ever actually. She cant keep shocking everyone with each release. Eventually something is gonna be "safe". Maybe its time for het do to something a little more accessible to the masses. Ahe deserves mainstream exposure
The mix/production is great, which was lacking from Flux and Eat, and it's much less mainstream-pop than Zig. Closer to the Choke/I-Disagree I first fell in love with ... but I was almost expecting (hoping for) a wacky middle-8 with chicken-pickin banjo or a basoon-solo or something.
I suppose for her it is "safe", but I gotta admit I'm loving this heavier direction from her. I applaud her adventurous dark pop side, but it didn't always work for me.
Please don't hate on this criticism; only because I felt weird listening to the song; it did not feel like a banger to me like most people say My criticism is towards Fish not Poppy, she is incredibly cool. The lyrics seemed like they were put together because they rhymed well? As for the beat, Jordon is incredibly well at creating breaks and riffs and it can become almost to clean? For reference: In the Punk Rocks Podcast with Jordon Fish he himself mentioned, he goes for lyrics or essentially words that sound well together and its enough for him to make a song out of. In an interview with Oliver Sykes they also expressed wanting "rawness, less symmetry." And continued to say "having mastered polish already, they wanted everything in the red, “cranked up to 11." Which says a lot if you listen to Architects new song Curse how well manicured it is. At the moment Jordon's production is what the bands he is currently working with need. And I can't deny his talent. He holds some responsibility for BMTH success. But I am afraid we will continue to see "safe" for his future productions? I am afraid to see, clean music // safe // to later tired.
You've only checked out 6 or 7 Poppy songs here (based from the reaction videos, wno knows if you check her music). I don't think you have the right to assess her music as "too safe." You don't know what you're really talking about. If you think that way, well, you don't know Poppy and her music at all!
I have listened to far more than I have reacted to. I absolutely rinsed the I Disagree album in full, and a lot of what came before. I value her uniqueness. This song is not unique.
@@SteveOGRock NO. Not enough. I Disagree is just a fraction of her era. This is the first time she has ventured with playing straight out metal elements. Prior to this, she's always dabble with experimental elements. Just because this song was written that way, which was an unorthodox thing to do for her doesn't mean it's unoriginal or not special at all.
A real fan of Poppy just fluxes and flows with it!
literally.
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Jordans also producing the entire album for her,,, were so back
OOH BABY. What's the source for that?
@@ShimobeSamashe said herself on the bbc radio 1 interview
@@energyismygame WOOHOOO
Jordan Fish?
@@broccoli_cookies yeah, hes producing and helping create her whole album
To be fair, when your entire career is centered around being "unsafe," and that's what your fans come to expect, then perhaps being "safe" is actually the boldest move to make.
yeah funny enough her going a mainstream route is new for her and still fresh for the fans lmao
Poppy going with more straightforward metalcore sound is just great. Cant wait to hear more
solid track, a radio friendly lead single is such a good move. the one off of her previous album was too distorted for the average listener to get into / enjoy.
I don't mind Poppy making more mainstream music. This song - along with everything else she's done - is absolutely amazing. Mother never disappoints 🔥🔥‼️‼️
It's very much a straight down the line nu-metal track for me, kinda nostalgic, zig for me took a lot of risks, with the kinda harsh minimalistic industrial/dark pop sound, i liked it a lot but loads of people didn't seem to know what to make of it, this is more digestible and nicely different to zig
It was safe, yes. But it also just sounds great as well! I really hope she starts doing more of this and I'll become a very big Poppy fan!
I wondered why the tones sounded so familiar and polished and wasn't surprised to see Jordan worked on this. guitars and song structure reminded me a ton of curse by architects and now I know why haha
It's a very Bring me chorus
@@jonathanbouthillette753 Definitely. Reminded me of something you'd hear on survival horror.
Can't explain it. This genre just sounds better with a girl singing. @@jonathanbouthillette753
This sounds like the first track on the album to ease you into what I'm assuming will be a number of songs that are in no way as "safe" as this one.
Yeah, rather unusual sound for her. Good track but I hope she'll have a good number of more experimental songs on the rest of the album. I adore the I Disagree and Zig albums.
It’s a commercial rock song. I’m personally for it.
The concept of a simple solid banger is severely underrated nowadays.
The chorus is a bit lacking but overall I like the song, it still has those special Poppy elements and I always love hearing her scream. She needs a good generic radio hit at this point, she's been around for a long time and doing heavier music for a while and this might help her get a little more recognition.
safe is the wrong word - it's accessible. it's that song on new album that brings new folk. also, it's a great song.
This is a banger
Solid is where I'd place this one too. Loved her last album so I'm hoping we'll get a similar kind of variety with her next one.
I think anyone who thinks they are going to get a full album of easily digestible radio friendlies may be disappointed, but who knows 😂😂
No harm having a straight up, undisputed banger every now and then to act as an "in point" for the more adventurous stuff. Nice Shirley Mason chest voice lower range in the verse and the high bit switching down to a scream at the end will be great live. There is nothing safe about the vocals. Also.... this really got into my head (the chorus!) , and there are some fun meta references......
I heard it on the radio so yea it was made to be more radio friendly
Damn what station do you listen to
@@Xxxfallen_angelxxXSiriusXM Octane
THANK YOU Im not the only one who thinks this music sound very standard to modern metal stadards! it's not bad in any way but i didn't found the spark of VAN or Suffocate
After working with Oli so many years this seems to be kinda no autotune for Jordan, haha.
i think zig album was safe. im just glad she is still rocking. i think the chorus is the commercial part but the rest is great. i love that she has a signature scream. that little whine or whale at the end of a scream.
I enjoyed the chorus, but I agree, it was a little to radio friendly and safe, and lyrically kind of generic, but I LOVED the rest of the song. Everything surrounding the chorus was great.
I love this song. Very good production
Indeed, very radio friendly
It's solid alternative metal, which I kinda dig.
nice one steve hope you are doing the new Aurora album out Friday
Shes basicaly the most versatile and unpredictable artist goong today.... maybe ever actually. She cant keep shocking everyone with each release. Eventually something is gonna be "safe". Maybe its time for het do to something a little more accessible to the masses. Ahe deserves mainstream exposure
Yes this song is amazing omg that's fire
The mix/production is great, which was lacking from Flux and Eat, and it's much less mainstream-pop than Zig. Closer to the Choke/I-Disagree I first fell in love with ... but I was almost expecting (hoping for) a wacky middle-8 with chicken-pickin banjo or a basoon-solo or something.
Reminds me of something from "Thats the spirit"
Poppy is SUPREME!
The Jordan Fish effect in a safe, radio-rock, but still banging track? Damn, we eating good this year
not everything needs to be extra 🙄
That first verse really reminds me of "Black Sheep" by Metric (aka that song Brie Larson sings in the movie Scott Pilgrim vs. the World).
Song is a banger
Reminded me a bit too much of V.A.N
I suppose for her it is "safe", but I gotta admit I'm loving this heavier direction from her. I applaud her adventurous dark pop side, but it didn't always work for me.
Please don't hate on this criticism; only because I felt weird listening to the song; it did not feel like a banger to me like most people say
My criticism is towards Fish not Poppy, she is incredibly cool.
The lyrics seemed like they were put together because they rhymed well?
As for the beat, Jordon is incredibly well at creating breaks and riffs and it can become almost to clean?
For reference:
In the Punk Rocks Podcast with Jordon Fish he himself mentioned, he goes for lyrics or essentially words that sound well together and its enough for him to make a song out of.
In an interview with Oliver Sykes they also expressed wanting "rawness, less symmetry." And continued to say "having mastered polish already, they wanted everything in the red, “cranked up to 11."
Which says a lot if you listen to Architects new song Curse how well manicured it is.
At the moment Jordon's production is what the bands he is currently working with need. And I can't deny his talent. He holds some responsibility for BMTH success. But I am afraid we will continue to see "safe" for his future productions?
I am afraid to see, clean music // safe // to later tired.
Does it matter ?
Good? No Great
You've only checked out 6 or 7 Poppy songs here (based from the reaction videos, wno knows if you check her music). I don't think you have the right to assess her music as "too safe." You don't know what you're really talking about. If you think that way, well, you don't know Poppy and her music at all!
THANK YOU.
I have listened to far more than I have reacted to. I absolutely rinsed the I Disagree album in full, and a lot of what came before. I value her uniqueness. This song is not unique.
Music is subjective and he gave his opnion. Stop sounding so butt hurt. You are an example of what is wrong with the metal community.
@@SteveOGRock NO. Not enough. I Disagree is just a fraction of her era. This is the first time she has ventured with playing straight out metal elements. Prior to this, she's always dabble with experimental elements. Just because this song was written that way, which was an unorthodox thing to do for her doesn't mean it's unoriginal or not special at all.
What do you mean safe? You want her to do the I Disagree music video again, but with a spicier and way more verboten rxcx swxp? 🤣
expect the unexpected ! sometimes the unexpected is the EXPECTED