@@danielthoman7324 Daniel....as your car depreciates each and every year....these classics will APPRECIATE equally in response. I've been buying and selling classic cars for decades and can speak to this....sorry, but it's a fact. And how can you like yours "better" if you've never owned a classic muscle car before? I'm guessing you're in your early 20s maybe?? Hmmmm........ 'Nuff said, methinks!
We had a 64 when I was a kid and I thought the push button transmission was the coolest. Darts and Savoy's were unassuming cars but made good sleepers.
@@stoveboltlvr3798 I had a '64 Dodge Polara 2dr htp about 20 years ago. It was a poly-head 318 with pushbutton but I did install a 4bl carb and dual exhaust tp give it a little rumble. I installed some HiJacker shocks on the back to give it a little lift and then a set of Cragar SS wheels to finish off "the look." It was a great ride, good on MPG and it turned alot of heads on the street and gathered attention at our local car shows. I later sold it to buy a '67 Barracuda with only 46,000 miles and an actual "little old lady" in Spokane bought it new (I was the 3rd owner). ;-)
1998-2002 LS1 275-325 H.P Camaro Z28 / SS Camaro was a bad ass car, Why is it on this list? 1993-1997 Camaro was the same car, but a slower LT1 motor. 275-305 H.P. LS1 was a Full second faster in a 1/4 mile then a LT1. 7:52 Trans Am LS1 305 hp/ WS6 with 325:HP Z28305/ SS 325:HP 2001 & 2002 had more ,,325 RWHP.
@@tomgeorge9025 The title is "ugliest" not related to performance. And of course this is probably just this posters opinion, but still that gen of Camaro ugly and #1 worst? I don't think a lot of people would agree with that.
I had an AMC 4WD Eagle, with a Gremlin body. Lived atop a steep hill in a town outside Boston. During snowstorms, neighbors had to park at the base of the hill, and toil upward home on foot. I started a free ferry service with my Eagle, as it was the only car that could make the grade. With a 151 CID straight 4, yeah, the Eagle had muscles enough, to soar people to the heights.
it was frequently made into aftermarket muscle cars due to large engine bay it is light enough that it can outdrag almost anything street legal with just a small block V8 also it can make great rally car if you do some workaround overall very good car, dont get fooled by the CARS movie.....(except the Pacer is truly horrible)
gremlin can be FAST if you stick a V8 in it, which is very easy since the engine bay is huge, for height issue you can always cut a hole in the hood. @@mike19640
The 62 Dart is so ugly that it is actually very cool, and how can anybody not like the 413 option. My dad bought a new Polara convertible, red with a red gut with a white top in 64 with a 426 "not a Hemi" with a crossarm set-up. Was only 10 at the time. Not sure if he ordered the car or bought it from the dealer stock. He also attempted to buy a 64 427-lightweight Galaxie which was sitting in the dealer showroom before he bought the Polara. Not sure why the Ford dealer has a Super Stock drag car on the showroom, that was for sale, but it is possible it was special ordered, and the original buyer backed out, who knows. I think my mom wanted nothing to do with that Galaxie considering it had no options and rubber mats instead of carpet..
@@JAAB9296 When you said "64 with a 426 "not a Hemi" with a crossarm set-up" it sounded like you didn't know......like alot of non-car guys out there. Why take issue to a simple comment that MAY clear things up for the people who don't know??
@@USCG.Brennan So here is the deal. I assumed anybody reading the comment would already know that it was a Max Wedge car and after thinking about your comment, at the time I wrote it, I started thinking that somebody was going to make a comment similar to yours. "Why take issue to a simple comment that MAY clear things up for the people who don't know??" Well, it would not have made a difference to them anyway IF they did not know. By the way, you called it a motor, internal combustion engines are not called "motors", as you already know. Do you get the similarity between comments? Why split hairs.
@@JAAB9296 1. You assumed everybody reading it would know? Never "assume" and you know why. 2. Most NON-car people out there don't know the difference between an engine and a motor.....and you can blame the companies who sell "motor oil" and other "motor related" products at auto parts stores for that one, not to forget "Motor Trend" magazine and a few others. 3. If you thought you knew someone would make a generic reply about your comment, why didn't you just say "Max Wedge" rather than "non Hemi?" "Non Hemi" sounds (to any car guy) that YOU don't know the difference.
I live in South East Asia and there's a red '62 Dodge Dart 10 miles away from my house, probably because compared to the more common 60s and 70s Japanese cars the Dart looks pretty cool to me.
They were cool. But in the U.S., there was a marketing error behind this car. Research will have you laughing. [And if you're a car buff you should research this.] Chrysler's inaccurate data from "corporate spies" led Chrysler's CEO to make a serious error and order the downsizing of ALL Dodge and Plymouth models to compacts in the early 1960's. He mistakenly thought Ford and GM were going to do the same thing. Worse, he ordered Chrysler's downsized compact cars to include the daring design factors of a full sized car because he mistakenly thought the market would be flooded with boring looking compacts. He wanted Chrsyler products to "stand out." Well, he got his wish, here, didn't he? Unfortunately Americans were quirky in those days. We we wanted a conservatively priced car to look, well, conservative, not as if designed by The Jetsons. It is more complicated than this, of course, but this daring looking car [a red over red interior convertible was my favorite] was designed for a market flooded with conservative looking compacts that didn't arrive! By 1964 the CEO was fired over this mistake.
@@davemerrick951 that's interesting to know, safe to assume people who watches this channel is a car guy but Dodges/Chrysler & GM story are not my expertise, I'm a Ford fan first and foremost so growing up I had a bias against GM & Dodge/Chrysler as childish fanboy lol, only done my research on Ford, Ford of Europe, popular Europe and Japanese cars. The '62 Dart I seen was red with red interior, It's certainly looks nothing like common Japanese cars sold here from the same era... it's massive in comparison, triple the displacement ( I assume this Dart has the slant 6 ) and it's unique design would caught attention here...for that I think they're cool dare I say cooler than '62 Falcon
I personally think the Gremlin are actually kind of cool or fun. An smaller hatchback available with an big V8 and some cool looking "muscle car" type stribes, decals and wheels right from the factory. The rear end are unusual in design, but I don't see it as ugly at all.
The Pacer was just weird. An upside-down motorized goldfish bowl. Remember the ads? "You don't RIDE like a Pacer unless you're WIDE like a Pacer!"@@Offthbadan
Dodge Dart and specially the Camaro 4th gen is good looking. The camaro is a real muscle car of its time. In my opinion there are no ugly cars but some are not muscle cars
The Mustang II was a necessity, it saved both Ford & the Mustang brand. It might have been less desirable than its predecessor but it deserves respect. Also, it was voted Motortrend car of the year 1974.
The Mustang II tripled the sale from its predessor. It sold better than the Mustang had done since 1967. '74 sales surpassed '68 and the next years sales.
I have a 1997 camaro SS that I am almost finished restoring. It’s Arctic White, I added the orange stripes, and I did the LT4 conversion when I rebuilt the engine. It was heartbreaking to see the same body style on this list 😂lol.
@@mistered9435 yeah, that car does not belong on that list at all. They're beautiful! Who ever put the Camaro on there doesn't have class or taste imo.
I agree. Beyond that, it annihilated most of its competitors at the time it was new. It doesn’t belong anywhere on this list. The F-Body twins, the Mustang, and a few other V8 cars just a few years later reignited the modern American horsepower wars.
I had 62 Dart sedan and wagon. Both 318s. They were as strong as they were ugly which was VERY in both cases. Even the 318 would easily out run a 352 Galaxie at the time (Grandfather had one of those. Nice looking car, gutless). First muscle car was 55 Chrysler 300. By 64 when the GTO came put you could get a 383 four barrel in the Polara which could outrun most GTOs. And later that year you could get a Hemi if you really wanted to GO. GTOs were always about marketing an image, not about being really quick.
My dad had a 1962 dart with a push button automatic and a leaning tower of power for an engine. It was a really good car. Styling was different but not ugly.
My dad's first super stock race car was a 413/410 Plymouth Savoy that he raced for Al Roberts Plymouth in 1962. Having grown up with Max Wedge cars since the age of 7 I've come to think of their looks as "mean" rather than ugly. I have his aluminum front end '63 Plymouth 426/425 that he bought new late in the 1963 model year, as well as my '64 Dodge 426 Max Wedge/4 speed that I've been running in NHRA stock classes since the mid seventies. I really like the looks of the 1963 and 1964 Mopars a lot more, but I also appreciate the '62 cars.
This list is so off base. Oh by the way second gen Challenger was Japanese not American but you knew that before doing this. Ahhh who am I kidding no you didn't. Also 75 Road Runner was a trim level of the Fury and not an actual model of a car.
Well the 63 Dart did not just swap the grille. It was a completely different vehicle, an A-body instead of a B-body, "compact", not mid sized, economical- only offered a 6 cylinder. It was actually comparable to the 62 Lancer. A 63 Dart has nothing to do with a 62 except for the name
That 62 Dodge was ugly but it went down in history in some songs...."But parked in a rickety old garage, There's a brand new shiny red super stock Dodge" The little old lady from Pasadena. Also that Dodge had a 413 cubic inch engine. And in the Beach Boys song 'Shut Down' "It happened on the strip where the road is wide Two cool shorts standin' side by side Yeah, my fuel injected Stingray and a 413 , A revvin' up our engines, and it sounds real mean"
After watching this video about all these ugly cars, now you know why the American muscle cars from the mid sixties to the Early seventies are so in demand and valuable. Great styling, paint colors, and high horse power V8 engines. A far cry from today's generic plastic junk cars.
As the old cliché says, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." IMHO, the 1962 Dart was a great looking car. From the unique grille/headlight configuration to the stylish tail end it was creative, interesting, unique. I'd take one anyday. Body line reminiscent of the 1960 Plymouth Valiant, which I'd also take.
They looked like big, curvy girls' cars, just as the feminine name 'Camaro' implies. They were an embarrassment. Try to find one on the road today; they were that bad.
It pisses me off how lazy "journalists" and ignorant enthusiasts refer to the 64 GTO as the "FIRST musclecar". It was not. It was the first POPULAR musclecar! But any Max Wedge Mopar B-body 1962-3 would SMOKE it.
its 90s mustang guys they seethe at the idea that camaros always look good and mustangs of the 90s and early 2000 are round boxes and the mustangs before that were even uglier
@@JeffKopis In their day the early Mopars were actual factory built race cars, therefore they were infact "Muscle" cars. The "Muscle Cars" I believe you are referring to are the smaller body cars with large factory engines that started coming out in 1964 with the GTO and 442. However the true definition of a Muscle Car is that it was built by the factory to race other cars whether on the street or the strip. The other cars listed here were hyped up "faux muscle cars" made up by the factory during the OPEC gas crunch. Many were ugly, cheap and detuned cars that were simply "badged" as muscle cars. Detroit didn't fool any of us though....we knew what they were up to. ;-(
The '98 thru '02 Camaro's were sharp . Not near as sharp as the '67 thru '73 Camaro's, but a far cry better than than the 80's and early 90's Camaro's.
Always liked the Mustang II. It had to become what it was to survive what was going on at the time. Mustang almost went front wheel drive when the market was moving there( glad it didn’t). And the commercial even said “the right car at the right time.” I never compared apples to oranges.
Я конечно понимаю, что большинство этих машин это отрыжки больной эпохи ("malaise era" если перевод на ваш язык путем кнопки оказался другим), но в большинстве своём эти машины хоть и ненадёжны, но они прекрасны... Пусть это продукт урезания бюджета или лицензионная mitsubishi, но они действительно очень красивы. Люди которые называют машины типа challenger того поколения или Chevrolet vega худчшими, они никогда не сидели и не ездили в условных жигулях или тавриях. И сколько бы владельцы лады не хвалили свои машины, эти машины были и остаются дерьмом, как ни крути. И не могут конкурировать ни с одной машиной из этого списка
Darts and Gremlins presented muscle cars. Whoever created this video must be someone unfamiliar with these cars. Super Sports, GTO's, 442's and others are muscle cars.
And that 80's ('78) "Challenger..." man, that hits a sore spot. My father had a 1970 Challenger (he bought it the same month I was born). That was the first car I remember. Later in life, I had a 2011 392 Challenger with a 6 speed Tremec. To a man like me, the very EXISTENCE of that thing they put the name on in the 80s is enough to envoke anger.
Well lets see...the Mustang II was not what its predecessors were, but neither is the new E-Mustang of today. I would not call an Electric, four door SUV a Mus
Everything went wrong in the 70's. After a trip to Cuba more than 10 years ago, I fell in love with American cars from the 50's. '57 is my favorite year.
the term muscle car is linguistic abuse. The phrase showed up in the late 60's. It was applied to tuna boats like the Mustang KR500, 440 Road Runners, etc. Overweight cars with RV/truck engines. The were not muscley they were fat a flabby. Never heard of a Gremlin being a muscle car. Girl friend had one with 4speed and V8. Rev'd nicely to 3500rpm and then fell flat on its face. Common for 1970's smogged cars. Low reving and gutless and a 85mph speedometer. Very muscley. c.1980 Vette had a small block V8 with some 170hp.....
My God was the original Dart ever painfully homely! Darts/Valiants were always esthetically challenged throughout their lifespans, but the 62 hurts the eyes! And to call the 2nd gen Challenger a Challenger is like saying snorting cinnamon is healthy. It just isn't
I don't understand the title of this video. The Gremlin was not marketed as a muscle car. [Nor was this orignal Dodge Dart, although it is quite correct this Dodge Dart's and its "partner in crime" Plymouth Savoy's aggressive design debacles sent Chrysler's CEO to the unemployment line!] But the intended market of the Gremlin was its two seat sub compact target: The VW Beetle. To keep my comment short, if you are interested, you might research on your own the full sized car comfort and power train options not offerred in The Beetle, which because of its water cooled engines included options that could be called 'high performance" but certainly not "muscle." The sales pitch was that it was a more comfortable and more powerful sub compact car than the Beetle, VERY American, but not a budget Corvette! Further, the designer, Richard "Dick" Teague has pointed numerous times its attention getting and controversial "homely" design was, intentional. Even AMCs promo included here spports that. And one of Teague's numerous justifications for that ? We're still discussing the car in 2023, aren't we?
Maybe I’m just weird, but I feel for cars like these. I’d be proud to own that Dart, especially the red one that’s not 100% restored. A sort of ‘he ain’t heavy, he’s my brother’ vibe. The one thing I don’t get: with the oil crisis, why didn’t the big three just look to their EU partners for engines? Or Japan. Not for rebadging imports but for the tech. Even with CAFE you could still hire engineers from abroad, right? Why didn’t they? BMW made stunning straight sixes. The US once did, too, until they got hooked on v8’s. It kinda fits, in my head. Edit: 7:50 ok, that Camaro is not loveable. That’s just… nothing. Not even ugly. Just… porridge. It was a hype in granturismo early eds, but I never got why.
I started watching this video with an open mind about the cars. I figured, "How bad can they be?" Well, some weren't too bad but they weren't great, either. And some seemed to indicate some seriously unartistic design. In between "not-to-bad" and "seriously unartistic" were the automotive equivalents of lime Jello - easy on the stomach but not one's idea of a great desert. I thought the exterior of the 1998 Camaro looked pretty good, though.
Hardly anything in this feature that was actually a muscle car. A few shown were cars that still carried the name of real muscle cars from earlier years, but in no way could these later low performance models (mid seventies to late eighties) be considered a muscle car. Other information is inaccurate, or completely false...as in the portion of this video featuring the 1962 Dodge (and I'm not talking about its looks, which many do not like).
The Gremlin was an awesome and beautiful car. And FYI, it was the VW Beetle that was referred to as a pregnant roler skate (because of its rounded body shape).
WTH? This clown showed a compact '63 Dart instead of just recognizing that the '62 Dart became the '63 Coronet! The'63 Dart was just a redesigned and renamed Lancer!
I bought a new one in '78. Red hatchback 302 automatic. Had it 12 trouble free years, loved it. I Did get the transmission rebuilt and also added a B&M shift kit. I put a set of headers and dual exhaust out the back, and a few other things. You didnt expect that sound to be coming out of that car, it sounded good. Just not a killer on HP. I had another car for that. It did sound way better than the new mustangs now, they sound awful.
I really like that 1998 Chevrolet Camaro, both in design and performance. I have no idea why it was #1 on this list or even why it made the list as it was a great looking car.
i owned a couple of gremlins . a 6 cyl version auto trans and one with a V8 and a 4 speed manual trans . loved them both ! also had a 1987 cougar , great car !
I honestly think the 62 dart is pretty cool! It’s definitely a takeoff from the standard automobile designs of the time. The new front grill design is definitely beautiful in its own way when compared to what they did in 63.
You all must keep in mind that during the era these cars were designed in, the US had a very large problem with people on drugs. I'm sure that the designers of these cars were also affected, and the outcome is what you see in this video 😋
In my opinion, the 64-70 Mach One Mustang's are the most beautifull desings of all. As more they where the most powerfull's of all too. Love Mustang's! I was have 4 different's in my life.
62 Dodge dart was basically a stock car available to public..the wedge was a awesome engine
I had a '62 Polara 500 "413" /4spd car. White body and red interior. Wish I still had it.
I like my 03 Chevrolet Malibu better. 53,500. And it still looks good.
@@danielthoman7324 Daniel....as your car depreciates each and every year....these classics will APPRECIATE equally in response.
I've been buying and selling classic cars for decades and can speak to this....sorry, but it's a fact. And how can you like yours "better"
if you've never owned a classic muscle car before? I'm guessing you're in your early 20s maybe?? Hmmmm........ 'Nuff said, methinks!
We had a 64 when I was a kid and I thought the push button transmission was the coolest. Darts and Savoy's were unassuming cars but made good sleepers.
@@stoveboltlvr3798 I had a '64 Dodge Polara 2dr htp about 20 years ago. It was a poly-head 318 with pushbutton but I did install
a 4bl carb and dual exhaust tp give it a little rumble. I installed some HiJacker shocks on the back to give it a little lift and then a set of Cragar SS wheels to finish off "the look." It was a great ride, good on MPG and it turned alot of heads on the street and gathered attention at our local car shows. I later sold it to buy a '67 Barracuda with only 46,000 miles and an actual "little old lady" in Spokane bought it new (I was the 3rd owner). ;-)
Honestly, I’d take any one of those over the crap they’re selling today
Got that right
Ditto
Ya you got that right
1998-2002 LS1
275-325 H.P
Camaro Z28 / SS Camaro was a bad ass car,
Why is it on this list?
1993-1997
Camaro was the same car, but a slower LT1 motor.
275-305 H.P.
LS1 was a Full second faster in a 1/4 mile then a LT1. 7:52
Trans Am LS1 305 hp/
WS6 with 325:HP
Z28305/ SS 325:HP
2001 & 2002 had more ,,325 RWHP.
@@tomgeorge9025 The title is "ugliest" not related to performance. And of course this is probably just this posters opinion, but still that gen of Camaro ugly and #1 worst? I don't think a lot of people would agree with that.
Gremlins were never a muscle car.
Yeah this list is sketchy
I had an AMC 4WD Eagle, with a Gremlin body. Lived atop a steep hill in a town outside Boston. During snowstorms, neighbors had to park at the base of the hill, and toil upward home on foot. I started a free ferry service with my Eagle, as it was the only car that could make the grade. With a 151 CID straight 4, yeah, the Eagle had muscles enough, to soar people to the heights.
it was frequently made into aftermarket muscle cars due to large engine bay
it is light enough that it can outdrag almost anything street legal with just a small block V8
also it can make great rally car if you do some workaround
overall very good car, dont get fooled by the CARS movie.....(except the Pacer is truly horrible)
I never had a Gremlin but I always thought they were cool little cars, especially a Gremlin X.
gremlin can be FAST if you stick a V8 in it, which is very easy since the engine bay is huge, for height issue you can always cut a hole in the hood. @@mike19640
The only thing people mostly saw on the wedge car was the tail lights
Or maybe the car was so ugly, that if you just rolled forward, the dart would quickly get out of your sight.
The 62 Dart is so ugly that it is actually very cool, and how can anybody not like the 413 option.
My dad bought a new Polara convertible, red with a red gut with a white top in 64 with a 426 "not a Hemi" with a crossarm set-up. Was only 10 at the time. Not sure if he ordered the car or bought it from the dealer stock. He also attempted to buy a 64 427-lightweight Galaxie which was sitting in the dealer showroom before he bought the Polara. Not sure why the Ford dealer has a Super Stock drag car on the showroom, that was for sale, but it is possible it was special ordered, and the original buyer backed out, who knows. I think my mom wanted nothing to do with that Galaxie considering it had no options and rubber mats instead of carpet..
That 426 "non Hemi" was called a "Max Wedge" motor.
@@USCG.Brennan No kidding? Come on dude everybody knows that.
@@JAAB9296 When you said "64 with a 426 "not a Hemi" with a crossarm set-up" it sounded like you didn't know......like alot of non-car guys out there.
Why take issue to a simple comment that MAY clear things up for the people who don't know??
@@USCG.Brennan So here is the deal. I assumed anybody reading the comment would already know that it was a Max Wedge car and after thinking about your comment, at the time I wrote it, I started thinking that somebody was going to make a comment similar to yours.
"Why take issue to a simple comment that MAY clear things up for the people who don't know??" Well, it would not have made a difference to them anyway IF they did not know.
By the way, you called it a motor, internal combustion engines are not called "motors", as you already know. Do you get the similarity between comments? Why split hairs.
@@JAAB9296 1. You assumed everybody reading it would know? Never "assume" and you know why. 2. Most NON-car people out there don't know the difference between an engine and a motor.....and you can blame the companies who sell "motor oil" and other "motor related" products at auto parts stores for that one, not to forget "Motor Trend" magazine and a few others. 3. If you thought you knew someone would make a generic reply about your comment, why didn't you just say "Max Wedge" rather than "non Hemi?" "Non Hemi" sounds (to any car guy) that YOU don't know the difference.
I live in South East Asia and there's a red '62 Dodge Dart 10 miles away from my house, probably because compared to the more common 60s and 70s Japanese cars the Dart looks pretty cool to me.
They were cool. But in the U.S., there was a marketing error behind this car. Research will have you laughing. [And if you're a car buff you should research this.] Chrysler's inaccurate data from "corporate spies" led Chrysler's CEO to make a serious error and order the downsizing of ALL Dodge and Plymouth models to compacts in the early 1960's. He mistakenly thought Ford and GM were going to do the same thing. Worse, he ordered Chrysler's downsized compact cars to include the daring design factors of a full sized car because he mistakenly thought the market would be flooded with boring looking compacts. He wanted Chrsyler products to "stand out." Well, he got his wish, here, didn't he? Unfortunately Americans were quirky in those days. We we wanted a conservatively priced car to look, well, conservative, not as if designed by The Jetsons. It is more complicated than this, of course, but this daring looking car [a red over red interior convertible was my favorite] was designed for a market flooded with conservative looking compacts that didn't arrive! By 1964 the CEO was fired over this mistake.
@@davemerrick951 that's interesting to know, safe to assume people who watches this channel is a car guy but Dodges/Chrysler & GM story are not my expertise, I'm a Ford fan first and foremost so growing up I had a bias against GM & Dodge/Chrysler as childish fanboy lol, only done my research on Ford, Ford of Europe, popular Europe and Japanese cars.
The '62 Dart I seen was red with red interior, It's certainly looks nothing like common Japanese cars sold here from the same era... it's massive in comparison, triple the displacement ( I assume this Dart has the slant 6 ) and it's unique design would caught attention here...for that I think they're cool dare I say cooler than '62 Falcon
@@davemerrick951
They were mid size not compact.
@@bradkayMid sized nowaday, but not many smaller back then..
@@BoltRM
Lancer, Valiant, Corvair, Chevy II, Falcon, Tempest, F85, Buick Special
I personally think the Gremlin are actually kind of cool or fun. An smaller hatchback available with an big V8 and some cool looking "muscle car" type stribes, decals and wheels right from the factory. The rear end are unusual in design, but I don't see it as ugly at all.
A high school friend of mine owned a Gremlin. I had the awful experience of getting wedged into the back seat once. It was torture.
I agree. I never saw it as ugly. The Pacer was a much more controversial design than the Gremlin.
The Pacer was just weird. An upside-down motorized goldfish bowl. Remember the ads? "You don't RIDE like a Pacer unless you're WIDE like a Pacer!"@@Offthbadan
@@jasonrodgers9063 😂😂😂😂 a friend of mine used to call them baseball caps.
The matador. I know dude with a bad ass gremlin
i do not agree about the 98 Camaro
I don't either I loved THAT body style
Dodge Dart and specially the Camaro 4th gen is good looking. The camaro is a real muscle car of its time. In my opinion there are no ugly cars but some are not muscle cars
Mustang II was marketed as an economy car. It was very attractive compared to most economy cars of the time.
I belive they shouldev updated the Mavrick tail lights and dash and i wouldeve been ok
But was in no way a _Mustang_
@@BoltRM It was an uppity Pinto.
@@jamesburrell677 Just like the original being an uppity Falcon
The Mustang II was a necessity, it saved both Ford & the Mustang brand. It might have been less desirable than its predecessor but it deserves respect. Also, it was voted Motortrend car of the year 1974.
The Mustang II tripled the sale from its predessor. It sold better than the Mustang had done since 1967. '74 sales surpassed '68 and the next years sales.
and let's not forget Carlie's Angels drove these.
The Vega was also Car of the year
I agree. But don't you think the fastback looks like a station wagon as the video states?
the Mustang 2 fastback made a heck of a hot rod if you hopped up the 302 and 4 speed
That year Camaro is beautiful especially in SS trim!! They still bring big dollars for a nice one.
I have a 1997 camaro SS that I am almost finished restoring. It’s Arctic White, I added the orange stripes, and I did the LT4 conversion when I rebuilt the engine. It was heartbreaking to see the same body style on this list 😂lol.
@@mistered9435 yeah, that car does not belong on that list at all. They're beautiful! Who ever put the Camaro on there doesn't have class or taste imo.
I agree. Beyond that, it annihilated most of its competitors at the time it was new. It doesn’t belong anywhere on this list. The F-Body twins, the Mustang, and a few other V8 cars just a few years later reignited the modern American horsepower wars.
I had 62 Dart sedan and wagon. Both 318s. They were as strong as they were ugly which was VERY in both cases. Even the 318 would easily out run a 352 Galaxie at the time (Grandfather had one of those. Nice looking car, gutless). First muscle car was 55 Chrysler 300. By 64 when the GTO came put you could get a 383 four barrel in the Polara which could outrun most GTOs. And later that year you could get a Hemi if you really wanted to GO. GTOs were always about marketing an image, not about being really quick.
The Gremlin a muscle car?!😂 I had one. There was no muscle about it. But, I like it.
The Gremlin X was definitely a muscle car
My dad had a 1962 dart with a push button automatic and a leaning tower of power for an engine. It was a really good car. Styling was different but not ugly.
I agree.
Beauty... and ugly.... is strictly in the eye of the beholder. I'd take any one of these in a heartbeat; especially the '62 Dart.
My dad's first super stock race car was a 413/410 Plymouth Savoy that he raced for Al Roberts Plymouth in 1962. Having grown up with Max Wedge cars since the age of 7 I've come to think of their looks as "mean" rather than ugly. I have his aluminum front end '63 Plymouth 426/425 that he bought new late in the 1963 model year, as well as my '64 Dodge 426 Max Wedge/4 speed that I've been running in NHRA stock classes since the mid seventies. I really like the looks of the 1963 and 1964 Mopars a lot more, but I also appreciate the '62 cars.
That's quite a collection! You're very lucky. My friend had a '64 Polara when we were young. Really like the old Mopars of that era.@@dennysanders2748
Gremlin was not remotely a "muscle car"! What were you thinking?
Had a 76 Gremlin 6 cylinder three at the knee. Poorly built, cheaply made and fell apart. Worst car I ever owned and they certainly no muscle cars.
This list is so off base. Oh by the way second gen Challenger was Japanese not American but you knew that before doing this. Ahhh who am I kidding no you didn't. Also 75 Road Runner was a trim level of the Fury and not an actual model of a car.
I actually love the Gremlin
Mustang 2 sold like hotcakes tho
Well the 63 Dart did not just swap the grille. It was a completely different vehicle, an A-body instead of a B-body, "compact", not mid sized, economical- only offered a 6 cylinder. It was actually comparable to the 62 Lancer. A 63 Dart has nothing to do with a 62 except for the name
True. But these sort of breezy, clueless videos by non-experts never get even the basic facts right. They're a waste of time.
@@JeffKopis that's usually true but you and I love to watch them!:-) Then maybe we can educate and be educated in the comment section....
That 62 Dodge was ugly but it went down in history in some songs...."But parked in a rickety old garage, There's a brand new shiny red super stock Dodge" The little old lady from Pasadena. Also that Dodge had a 413 cubic inch engine.
And in the Beach Boys song 'Shut Down' "It happened on the strip where the road is wide Two cool shorts standin' side by side Yeah, my fuel injected Stingray and a 413 , A revvin' up our engines, and it sounds real mean"
AMC Gremlin. Likely the best, unintentional wheelie king ever!
The lady in the Gremlin ad appears to be the actress Nancy Allen.
It just might be!
After watching this video about all these ugly cars, now you know why the American muscle cars from the mid sixties to the Early seventies are so in demand and valuable. Great styling, paint colors, and high horse power V8 engines. A far cry from today's generic plastic junk cars.
Most of these weren't meant to be muscle cars. They were for the most part what they were meant to be.
Probably better labeled as a "Muscle Era" car instead......
As the old cliché says, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." IMHO, the 1962 Dart was a great looking car. From the unique grille/headlight configuration to the stylish tail end it was creative, interesting, unique.
I'd take one anyday. Body line reminiscent of the 1960 Plymouth Valiant, which I'd also take.
actually those 90s and early 2000s camaros are awesome looking. they werent trying to copy the 1969 design like the later camaros.
They looked like big, curvy girls' cars, just as the feminine name 'Camaro' implies. They were an embarrassment. Try to find one on the road today; they were that bad.
@@RemingtonArmy- at least they werent trying to copy the 1969 design. they were more futuristic looking.
I had a Gremlin. It was NOT a muscle car!
I'm from the muscle car era actually before when we had to build the engine ourselves and most of the cars shown were not muscle cars.
It pisses me off how lazy "journalists" and ignorant enthusiasts refer to the 64 GTO as the "FIRST musclecar". It was not. It was the first POPULAR musclecar! But any Max Wedge Mopar B-body 1962-3 would SMOKE it.
I LOVE the catfish Camaro- one of the coolest cars ever! Gets a lot of hate- but not from me :)
its 90s mustang guys they seethe at the idea that camaros always look good and mustangs of the 90s and early 2000 are round boxes and the mustangs before that were even uglier
Many people forget that the Gremlin brought profitability to AMC. I loved mine, a 71 Gremlin X.
Shouldn't AMC Pacer be on this list?
Another love or hate design. Put a glass roof on an old one and you have a nice little greenhouse for starting plants in the spring.
This is a list of ugly muscle cars. Pace was no muscle car.
That is no more a muscle car than the gremlin, it's just an ugly car.
@@dennisolsen4507Most of these aren't muscle cars at all.
It was fun watching this video, and while they might not be the most attractive muscle cars, I wouldn't call them ugly.
I'd LOVE to have another one (I had a '62 Polara 413 car). They looked mean like they were gonna eat you up on the street.
I wouldn't call most of them musclecars.
@@JeffKopis In their day the early Mopars were actual factory built race cars, therefore they were infact "Muscle" cars. The "Muscle Cars" I believe you are referring to are the smaller body cars with large factory engines that started coming out in 1964 with the GTO and 442. However the true definition of a Muscle Car is that it was built by the factory to race other cars whether on the street or the strip. The other cars listed here were hyped up "faux muscle cars" made up by the factory during the OPEC gas crunch. Many were ugly, cheap and detuned cars that were simply "badged" as muscle cars. Detroit didn't fool any of us though....we knew what they were up to. ;-(
Just about all American cars are ugly!
1962 Dodge Dart with a Wedge engine is one of the coolest muscle cars ever to hit the Strip. 👍😄❤️🇺🇸
The '98 thru '02 Camaro's were sharp . Not near as sharp as the '67 thru '73 Camaro's, but a far cry better than than the 80's and early 90's Camaro's.
I like 1998. Camaro.. Bring me back in my childhood 😍
Always liked the Mustang II. It had to become what it was to survive what was going on at the time. Mustang almost went front wheel drive when the market was moving there( glad it didn’t). And the commercial even said “the right car at the right time.” I never compared apples to oranges.
my first car was a 62 Black Dart 440 model.I loved that car
I wouldn't call any of these cars ugly ,maybe not as fast as the cars before them ,but, certainly not ugly.
Nearly all these are too late to be true "muscle cars".
Я конечно понимаю, что большинство этих машин это отрыжки больной эпохи ("malaise era" если перевод на ваш язык путем кнопки оказался другим), но в большинстве своём эти машины хоть и ненадёжны, но они прекрасны... Пусть это продукт урезания бюджета или лицензионная mitsubishi, но они действительно очень красивы. Люди которые называют машины типа challenger того поколения или Chevrolet vega худчшими, они никогда не сидели и не ездили в условных жигулях или тавриях. И сколько бы владельцы лады не хвалили свои машины, эти машины были и остаются дерьмом, как ни крути. И не могут конкурировать ни с одной машиной из этого списка
Darts and Gremlins presented muscle cars. Whoever created this video must be someone unfamiliar with these cars. Super Sports, GTO's, 442's and others are muscle cars.
Darts are muscle cars.
Even a detuned 401 Gremlin was certainly a muscle car by the standards of it's time. AMC made some very fast cars.
But the SS, GTO and 442s were not ugly
I agree on all counts. But I kinda dig the Camero.
And that 80's ('78) "Challenger..." man, that hits a sore spot. My father had a 1970 Challenger (he bought it the same month I was born). That was the first car I remember. Later in life, I had a 2011 392 Challenger with a 6 speed Tremec. To a man like me, the very EXISTENCE of that thing they put the name on in the 80s is enough to envoke anger.
Well lets see...the Mustang II was not what its predecessors were, but neither is the new
E-Mustang of today. I would not call an Electric, four door SUV
a Mus
They took the beautiful cars of the 50's,60's,70's and made them all look like Gremlins.
Gremlin a Muscle car? maybe if you popped in a 401, might as well add the Pontiac Aztec to the list.
Everything went wrong in the 70's.
After a trip to Cuba more than 10 years ago, I fell in love with American cars from the 50's.
'57 is my favorite year.
Add those ugly C8 Corvette Tail Lights to the list.
the term muscle car is linguistic abuse. The phrase showed up in the late 60's. It was applied to tuna boats like the Mustang KR500, 440 Road Runners, etc. Overweight cars with RV/truck engines. The were not muscley they were fat a flabby. Never heard of a Gremlin being a muscle car. Girl friend had one with 4speed and V8. Rev'd nicely to 3500rpm and then fell flat on its face. Common for 1970's smogged cars. Low reving and gutless and a 85mph speedometer. Very muscley. c.1980 Vette had a small block V8 with some 170hp.....
Funny thing is there's only one car on the entire list that's actually a muscle car.
My God was the original Dart ever painfully homely! Darts/Valiants were always esthetically challenged throughout their lifespans, but the 62 hurts the eyes!
And to call the 2nd gen Challenger a Challenger is like saying snorting cinnamon is healthy. It just isn't
they were never considered muscle cars
This was a waste of time. I thought it was going to be about muscle cars
I don't understand the title of this video. The Gremlin was not marketed as a muscle car. [Nor was this orignal Dodge Dart, although it is quite correct this Dodge Dart's and its "partner in crime" Plymouth Savoy's aggressive design debacles sent Chrysler's CEO to the unemployment line!] But the intended market of the Gremlin was its two seat sub compact target: The VW Beetle. To keep my comment short, if you are interested, you might research on your own the full sized car comfort and power train options not offerred in The Beetle, which because of its water cooled engines included options that could be called 'high performance" but certainly not "muscle." The sales pitch was that it was a more comfortable and more powerful sub compact car than the Beetle, VERY American, but not a budget Corvette! Further, the designer, Richard "Dick" Teague has pointed numerous times its attention getting and controversial "homely" design was, intentional. Even AMCs promo included here spports that. And one of Teague's numerous justifications for that ? We're still discussing the car in 2023, aren't we?
the last one is beautiful
Maybe I’m just weird, but I feel for cars like these. I’d be proud to own that Dart, especially the red one that’s not 100% restored. A sort of ‘he ain’t heavy, he’s my brother’ vibe.
The one thing I don’t get: with the oil crisis, why didn’t the big three just look to their EU partners for engines? Or Japan. Not for rebadging imports but for the tech. Even with CAFE you could still hire engineers from abroad, right? Why didn’t they? BMW made stunning straight sixes. The US once did, too, until they got hooked on v8’s. It kinda fits, in my head.
Edit: 7:50 ok, that Camaro is not loveable. That’s just… nothing. Not even ugly. Just… porridge. It was a hype in granturismo early eds, but I never got why.
I was a teenager when the Dodge Dart was new. It was ugly then and it is still ugggggly!
I started watching this video with an open mind about the cars. I figured, "How bad can they be?" Well, some weren't too bad but they weren't great, either. And some seemed to indicate some seriously unartistic design. In between "not-to-bad" and "seriously unartistic" were the automotive equivalents of lime Jello - easy on the stomach but not one's idea of a great desert. I thought the exterior of the 1998 Camaro looked pretty good, though.
I stopped watching as soon as they called the mustang II a muscle car.
I LIKE THAT 62 DART
A friend of mine had a Gremlin with a 327 fuelie in it. It was awesome and looked cool.
I bet it had an 8 track too
Hardly anything in this feature that was actually a muscle car. A few shown were cars that still carried the name of real muscle cars from earlier years, but in no way could these later low performance models (mid seventies to late eighties) be considered a muscle car. Other information is inaccurate, or completely false...as in the portion of this video featuring the 1962 Dodge (and I'm not talking about its looks, which many do not like).
Wow!!!! Nancy Allen in a Gremlin commercial .
The 62 Dart did a great job for the Oklahoma City police department.
None of these are muscle cars. Some are failed efforts to market on past triumphs, but none are muscle cars.
I actually liked the Gremlin. Mike Damone had one in “Fast Times”.
The Gremlin was an awesome and beautiful car. And FYI, it was the VW Beetle that was referred to as a pregnant roler skate (because of its rounded body shape).
WTH? This clown showed a compact '63 Dart instead of just recognizing that the '62 Dart became the '63 Coronet! The'63 Dart was just a redesigned and renamed Lancer!
I think the 61 Dodge is uglier than the 62.
Add to the list the E Mustang, a hatchback no different than the other Electric hatchbacks but completely different from the Mustang.
You've got really vague definition of Muscle Car going there. I have never heard a Gremlin or an 82 Cougar labeled as a Muscle Car.
Pretty much any Hyundai is an ugly car. Lest we not forget Mitsus and Suzuk, and Mercedes. See how that works.
I hadn't realised that Cougar's rear lights were the source of inspiration for New Edge's rear lights which look so good
Camaro is a beauty always. But is a sport car. Not muscle. Same like Corvette.
The Mustang II wasn't a bad-looking car....but it WAS a bad car.
The 78 Challenger wasn't ugly OR American. Then again, it wasn't a muscle car either.
I bought a new one in '78. Red hatchback 302 automatic. Had it 12 trouble free years, loved it. I Did get the transmission rebuilt and also added a B&M shift kit. I put a set of headers and dual exhaust out the back, and a few other things. You didnt expect that sound to be coming out of that car, it sounded good. Just not a killer on HP. I had another car for that. It did sound way better than the new mustangs now, they sound awful.
78 Challenger was quite handsome.
I really like that 1998 Chevrolet Camaro, both in design and performance. I have no idea why it was #1 on this list or even why it made the list as it was a great looking car.
Say what you like about the Mustang II, but it looked FAR better than the later Fox bodied Mustangs.
i owned a couple of gremlins . a 6 cyl version auto trans and one with a V8 and a 4 speed manual trans .
loved them both !
also had a 1987 cougar , great car !
Camaro 98 isn't that ugly. 🤔
Agreed; except that the Gremlin and Cougar were NOT muscle cars.
I honestly think the 62 dart is pretty cool! It’s definitely a takeoff from the standard automobile designs of the time. The new front grill design is definitely beautiful in its own way when compared to what they did in 63.
It is so ugly that it's cool......
Dart and Muscle Car are three words that Id never put together. Same with a Gremlin
THIS IS A JOKE, RIGHT ?
You all must keep in mind that during the era these cars were designed in, the US had a very large problem with people on drugs. I'm sure that the designers of these cars were also affected, and the outcome is what you see in this video 😋
@starguard4122
The peak of people on drugs was much later.
62 Dart is the clear winner IMO . That engine was really cool though .
Ugly? Sure. But i had some great times flying down the highways
GM is always the better, few uglies car from GM
Gremlin.., muscle car.., NOT!
I thought Ford learned its lesson with the Mustang II.
Now look at it!
In my opinion, the 64-70 Mach One Mustang's are the most beautifull desings of all. As more they where the most powerfull's of all too.
Love Mustang's! I was have 4 different's in my life.
Dodge Dart was mentioned in Shut Down by The Beach Boys, 413 really digging in. Gotta be cool now powershift here we go
I like Acadian Beaumont. 🇨🇦
None of these are muscle cars....... not one!
They were fast from the factory and I loved them all. Especially the 427ci. MOPARS.
427??
@@gt5002x4clearly a Mopar car enthusiast, his next cars would be the 429 Boss Camaro and 424 cobra jet Mustang SS
Or the slant 6 trans am that Kid Rock drove in the movie Joe Dirt.
You really liked rare cars, didn't you? Never has been a 427 MOPAR.
I had a 73 Levi's Gremlin with a 304. It was quick, and I loved it!
By now, I wasn't aware of the Gremlin being a muscle car.
Thumbs up to everyone that disagreed try to go buy one who's laughing now ❤😂❤😂❤😂
My grandfather always said the Dodge Dart was so ugly it was cute. He really liked smoking Chevrolets.😁