Yeah, cause the room is a legitimately good film. How do we define good? Something that provides value. I love the room. It's hilarious. It brings me a great sense of joy. Who cares if it wasn't intended to be enjoyed this way?
We just overlooking the fact that Tommy Wiseau is DB Cooper? Both had strange accents, Cooper disappeared with money and Wiseau simply appeared with $6 million...
You almost went an entire review without spoiling something until you mentioned the cameo at the end. This is why I watch your reviews after I see the film now.
My Name is Nicky me too. If i am curious if a movie is good i skip to last 2 seconds to see their score then watch reviews after. They ALWAYS tell too much b
They're gonna sell so many more copies of the Room after this movie comes out. I just wish it would come to theaters near me because I REALLY want to see it!
In Princeton NJ, there is a device called a 'scanning electron microscope'. This marvelous instrument is so powerful that it can 'see' individual atoms. And, where I to turn this instrument on myself, I could not detect a single bit of me that cares about Ben Mankiewicz's opinions.
Someone, anyone!, please tell me why Tommy picked that name for the title. What room? There are several rooms in the movie but none are particularly significant or remarkable. The title seems very odd to me.
For those who have not seen The Room, here is how I would describe it: Imagine a bunch of robots who look human, who got together to make a movie, based on data they collected from seeing other movies, and then using The Room as a vehicle to mimic all the data they collected, in poorly executed attempts at acting, dialog, and replicating human mannerisms. Trust me, it is funnier than it sounds.
When someone tells Ben not to do something, he will comply. Well, how come nobody told him not to take over At the Movies from Ebert and Roeper and do it with Ben Lyons?
only mankiewicz can get away with being a movie critic and not having seen the room. even i have heard plenty of the room. now i'm wondering whether to see it before the disaster artist or do what ben did.
Hedgehog4real There is a copy on TH-cam right now if you want to see that first. For what it's worth I think you get something different out of the Disaster Artist if you see the room first than watching it as its own Standalone film.
that's what i probably should do. i remember how i couldnt take scream seriously because i watched it after seeing the first scary movie, everything just felt funny even when it wasn't. im afraid of the same effect if i don't see the room first
Hedgehog4real trust me you won't be able to take the room seriously even if you see it first but the Disaster Artist goes from a heartwarming tale about an artist creating a flawed but interesting film to a behind the scenes look at one of the biggest wastes of money ever created if you watch The Room first.
Jaws 4 is the most mainstream bad film ever made, or Superman 4 or Batman and Robin or Ghostbusters 2016 or StarWars the last Jedi . It is not the room x
And just like Ed Wood, it's not even done so much as a film that makes fun of the principle subject but actually allows us to grow closer to said character over time. To such an extent we understand him better and even start rooting for him, in spite of the fact that his movies are just impossibly bad. My favorite thing about Ed Wood though was that it did a great job of explaining WHY Ed Wood's movies were so bad. He didn't have nearly enough money or manpower, he literally was trying to complete feature length films in an entire weekend where he would write and produce and direct the entire thing in large part himself, he was trying SO hard to get his big break in the industry and he was taking corners literally wherever he had to. And of course these are the reasons the movies were so bad. But in their being so bad they have this sort of charm and no it didn't require another film, whether good or bad, to necessitate the enjoyment of the original products themselves. So yeah. I am glad it's not just me, I am just pointing out that Ed Wood came before this and IMO did it better.
OK, I just saw The Disaster Artist and I think Ben, Christy, and Alonzo committed critic's malpractice on this one. I am not referring to their judgment about how good it is. That's a matter of taste, which I will not quibble with. The problem with their review is that none of them accurately describe what's on screen. Tommy is NOT portrayed as "quirky" or an "individual". He is portrayed as a crazy person--way, way out on the spectrum. It isn't cute or comedic. He makes everyone he's around completely miserable due to his loud, delusional, narcissistic behavior. There's a scene in the first half where he goes up to a producer (played by Judd Apatow) in a restaurant and starts loudly trying to sell himself as an actor and even starts quoting Shakespeare. Of course, the Apatow character becomes furious and the restaurant has Tommy ejected. This is not funny. You just feel sorry for the producer. Here's what stuns me that the What the Flick? crew did not pick up on. The Room was intended as a drama, but it was so ineptly made it only works as an unintentional comedy, much like Plan 9 from Outer Space was made as a science fiction/horror film, but really only works as a unintentional comedy. You can laugh at the incompetent film-making, because it is a FILM. However, The Disaster Artist is a quasi-documentary. It attempts to portray REALITY. Watching Tommy's behavior in that context is not funny at all. It is cringe inducing. I was just uncomfortable throughout much of the film. You feel sorry for everyone that had the misfortune to be exposed to this guy. He doesn't listen to anybody. He doesn't consider anyone else's feelings. He's like a spoiled rich kid who has been taught not to pay attention anyone else except himself--sort of a Donald Trump with an accent. There are a very few scenes that are funny, such as the scene (also shown in the trailer) in which the script supervisor (Seth Rogen) tells Tommy that it is probably not a good idea to move around and groan loudly AFTER blowing your brains out. If this scene and many other scenes are not "making fun" of Tommy, then I don't know what that phrase means. It is also kind of funny when he appears on set nearly naked for a love scene, UNTIL he loudly announces that his actress has some blemishes that show her disgusting body, which nearly reduces her to tears. Ha, ha. Did Christy, Ben, and Alonzo yuk it up over that one? There is nothing affectionate about these two scenes, and they are typical of most of the film. In fact, rather than affectionate, I would describe the perspective of the film towards its subject as brutally honest. Since Tommy has such an repulsive personality, I found the experience of watching the film mostly unpleasant. The ending is sort of nice in that Tommy is rescued from the depths of despair when the opening night's audience laughs at his "masterpiece" until he is convinced that it is a success after all, just not the type of success he had hoped for. So, it has a very conventional happy ending.
It's very meta this film. Franco became famous for being this terrible actor who somehow beat the odds and continues to do, so he obviously relates to Wiseau on some level and actually perfect for this film. And quite fitting he is terrible in this film. Not at anytime do you forget he's playing a character and oh boy does he try hard. The movie is great but damn is he bad in it.
I have the script for Disaster Artist, and can send it to one of you if I can find an email. I haven't read the entire thing yet, but the intro does have a bunch of celebrities talking about The Room (Actually, I also have the original script for this, too -- the one he gave Greg which is totally different from the film) like Kristen Bell and Paul Rudd, etc. Haven't seen the film, yet, so I'm not sure if that ended up in it, but it's in the script.
Franco is pretending to act badly when is actually the best he can do. He´s a terrible actor who has passed for a good one- I really don't know how. His acting in everything, especially in that James Dean movie, is laughable. Gave me second hand embarrassment there.
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95% on Rotten Tomatoes lol
The Room sits at 28% which seems a little high.
Even the positive reviews are basically like "it's so bad, it's good" and gives it a fresh.
Room has much rating as BVS ,that tells a Lot what DCEU really is
It should be 0%.
Literally every fresh review is an ironic “It’s so incredibly, hilariously awful” one
Yeah, cause the room is a legitimately good film. How do we define good? Something that provides value. I love the room. It's hilarious. It brings me a great sense of joy. Who cares if it wasn't intended to be enjoyed this way?
We just overlooking the fact that Tommy Wiseau is DB Cooper? Both had strange accents, Cooper disappeared with money and Wiseau simply appeared with $6 million...
tropicAces shiiiitttt I think you stumbled on something interesting
Of course Ben hasn't seen The Room...
Ying Xiang Tan not many people have seen it..
I've never seen it either. I don't like bad films generally.
Well, who likes bad films? Donald Trump? Anyway, I haven't seen it myself, but have heard of it.
The room charactor is exactly like my rooomate. the point is that im moving out..
You almost went an entire review without spoiling something until you mentioned the cameo at the end. This is why I watch your reviews after I see the film now.
My Name is Nicky me too. If i am curious if a movie is good i skip to last 2 seconds to see their score then watch reviews after. They ALWAYS tell too much b
Everybody betray me I'm giving up with this world!
Dead-Owl 911 Fed*
AmethystEyes I have brought great shame to my family by messing up that quote...
anyway hows your sex life?
They're gonna sell so many more copies of the Room after this movie comes out. I just wish it would come to theaters near me because I REALLY want to see it!
Lycon Xero its on youtube
th-cam.com/video/jkBTRgR_U5o/w-d-xo.html
Oh hi Ben
Hi
Ben rating this the highest?
I did not see that coming!
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I DID NAWT!
In Princeton NJ, there is a device called a 'scanning electron microscope'.
This marvelous instrument is so powerful that it can 'see' individual atoms.
And, where I to turn this instrument on myself, I could not detect a single
bit of me that cares about Ben Mankiewicz's opinions.
Can Ben now do a review video of The Room now?
Literally all I was thinking!
He'll have to see it first.
The Room Is A Different Kind of Masterpiece, and this as well is A Different Kind of Masterpiece
Tommy Wiseau is a fucking GENIUS.
This film will be remembered much longer than Citizen Kane.
Ben kind of lives in his own world :D
Christy ages like fine wine
you edited and still dont make sense haha
+SHOE Your sentence is barely competent too...
You're a little chicken here chip chip chip
Yo Ben where you been at
Someone, anyone!, please tell me why Tommy picked that name for the title. What room? There are several rooms in the movie but none are particularly significant or remarkable. The title seems very odd to me.
For those who have not seen The Room, here is how I would describe it: Imagine a bunch of robots who look human, who got together to make a movie, based on data they collected from seeing other movies, and then using The Room as a vehicle to mimic all the data they collected, in poorly executed attempts at acting, dialog, and replicating human mannerisms. Trust me, it is funnier than it sounds.
Your tearing me apart Lisa!
"Everybody betray me!"
When someone tells Ben not to do something, he will comply. Well, how come nobody told him not to take over At the Movies from Ebert and Roeper and do it with Ben Lyons?
only mankiewicz can get away with being a movie critic and not having seen the room. even i have heard plenty of the room. now i'm wondering whether to see it before the disaster artist or do what ben did.
Hedgehog4real There is a copy on TH-cam right now if you want to see that first. For what it's worth I think you get something different out of the Disaster Artist if you see the room first than watching it as its own Standalone film.
that's what i probably should do. i remember how i couldnt take scream seriously because i watched it after seeing the first scary movie, everything just felt funny even when it wasn't. im afraid of the same effect if i don't see the room first
Hedgehog4real trust me you won't be able to take the room seriously even if you see it first but the Disaster Artist goes from a heartwarming tale about an artist creating a flawed but interesting film to a behind the scenes look at one of the biggest wastes of money ever created if you watch The Room first.
When will they play The Room on TCM?
I really liked Seth Rogan's character who is kind of in the background of the movie.
HOLY SHIT! Dave has a real JOKER smile in that thumbnail.
Don't know if you know it but THE DISASTER ARTIST wasn't the first title. It was origninally called WATCH JAMES FRANCO ACT
Those scenes were in the main body of the movie, they shot them for the screening scene
The free TH-cam version. Well if it’s still on there. Was pretty quality for what it is. They don’t crop anything off or censer the sex scenes.
I've just never been enchanted by The Room. Never been able to really enjoy things ironically.
HitchensImmortal watch it keeping in mind that This movie was supposed be serious
I wish Roger Ebert had seen The Room. He was alive then.
Jaws 4 is the most mainstream bad film ever made, or Superman 4 or Batman and Robin or Ghostbusters 2016 or StarWars the last Jedi . It is not the room x
It's not as if it's never been done before. Ed Wood does the same exact fking thing
And just like Ed Wood, it's not even done so much as a film that makes fun of the principle subject but actually allows us to grow closer to said character over time. To such an extent we understand him better and even start rooting for him, in spite of the fact that his movies are just impossibly bad. My favorite thing about Ed Wood though was that it did a great job of explaining WHY Ed Wood's movies were so bad. He didn't have nearly enough money or manpower, he literally was trying to complete feature length films in an entire weekend where he would write and produce and direct the entire thing in large part himself, he was trying SO hard to get his big break in the industry and he was taking corners literally wherever he had to. And of course these are the reasons the movies were so bad. But in their being so bad they have this sort of charm and no it didn't require another film, whether good or bad, to necessitate the enjoyment of the original products themselves. So yeah. I am glad it's not just me, I am just pointing out that Ed Wood came before this and IMO did it better.
They act like the characters from the room are hard to mimic.
And they said that Tommy Wiseau couldn't act
I miss you WTF!
Hai doggy!
Tommy Wiseau is Popeye come to life. He am what he Am. An Olivesk is tearing him apart.
A movie that really makes you laugh uncontrollably is rare and this one did it. Im not a fan of franco and rogen either
Money hungry people commercial at the beginning and then couldn’t pass the two minutes mark when another commercial pops up
I did not see this. It's not true. It's bullshit. I did not see this movie. I did NOT. Oh hi Mark.
omg i love this why isnt it upvoted
I still don't know how to pronounce Wiseau properly. Some people say Waisau, others say Weesau. Which one is it??
Try Vyechoor.
waisau
Why-zhou. After the French word for bird, oiseau
OK, I just saw The Disaster Artist and I think Ben, Christy, and Alonzo committed critic's malpractice on this one. I am not referring to their judgment about how good it is. That's a matter of taste, which I will not quibble with.
The problem with their review is that none of them accurately describe what's on screen. Tommy is NOT portrayed as "quirky" or an "individual". He is portrayed as a crazy person--way, way out on the spectrum. It isn't cute or comedic. He makes everyone he's around completely miserable due to his loud, delusional, narcissistic behavior. There's a scene in the first half where he goes up to a producer (played by Judd Apatow) in a restaurant and starts loudly trying to sell himself as an actor and even starts quoting Shakespeare. Of course, the Apatow character becomes furious and the restaurant has Tommy ejected. This is not funny. You just feel sorry for the producer.
Here's what stuns me that the What the Flick? crew did not pick up on. The Room was intended as a drama, but it was so ineptly made it only works as an unintentional comedy, much like Plan 9 from Outer Space was made as a science fiction/horror film, but really only works as a unintentional comedy. You can laugh at the incompetent film-making, because it is a FILM. However, The Disaster Artist is a quasi-documentary. It attempts to portray REALITY. Watching Tommy's behavior in that context is not funny at all. It is cringe inducing. I was just uncomfortable throughout much of the film. You feel sorry for everyone that had the misfortune to be exposed to this guy. He doesn't listen to anybody. He doesn't consider anyone else's feelings. He's like a spoiled rich kid who has been taught not to pay attention anyone else except himself--sort of a Donald Trump with an accent.
There are a very few scenes that are funny, such as the scene (also shown in the trailer) in which the script supervisor (Seth Rogen) tells Tommy that it is probably not a good idea to move around and groan loudly AFTER blowing your brains out. If this scene and many other scenes are not "making fun" of Tommy, then I don't know what that phrase means. It is also kind of funny when he appears on set nearly naked for a love scene, UNTIL he loudly announces that his actress has some blemishes that show her disgusting body, which nearly reduces her to tears. Ha, ha. Did Christy, Ben, and Alonzo yuk it up over that one? There is nothing affectionate about these two scenes, and they are typical of most of the film. In fact, rather than affectionate, I would describe the perspective of the film towards its subject as brutally honest. Since Tommy has such an repulsive personality, I found the experience of watching the film mostly unpleasant.
The ending is sort of nice in that Tommy is rescued from the depths of despair when the opening night's audience laughs at his "masterpiece" until he is convinced that it is a success after all, just not the type of success he had hoped for. So, it has a very conventional happy ending.
Oh hi Mark
I wish the guy on the right didn't talk so much. He didn't wait for the others to respond.
Tommy Wizzow
If this movie wins all award, Oscars or whatever, Tommy should seriously give a speech acting like James Franco. That would be amazing
to be or not TO be
I think this is the most human Ben has ever been.
It's very meta this film. Franco became famous for being this terrible actor who somehow beat the odds and continues to do, so he obviously relates to Wiseau on some level and actually perfect for this film.
And quite fitting he is terrible in this film. Not at anytime do you forget he's playing a character and oh boy does he try hard. The movie is great but damn is he bad in it.
Cheep Cheep Cheep Cheep Cheep
Hey dudes, would you take this moment in time to dedicate yourself to NOT talking over Christy?
mmmmmmm,.......... liver spots.
I am totally lost
J.A. Contes story of 2017
J.A. Contes I disagree
You are not allowed to disagree in 2017.
I stumble across room some year back while seeing worst top 10 videos on youtube..
Christy always looks like she needs her hair washed.
And where is Tommy now? Working at McDonald's?
Pretty much loved the film until the ending. Really hated the ending.
seriously? how come
I have the script for Disaster Artist, and can send it to one of you if I can find an email. I haven't read the entire thing yet, but the intro does have a bunch of celebrities talking about The Room (Actually, I also have the original script for this, too -- the one he gave Greg which is totally different from the film) like Kristen Bell and Paul Rudd, etc. Haven't seen the film, yet, so I'm not sure if that ended up in it, but it's in the script.
I think tommy's German.
casper yuri it has been looked into, and the majority thinks he's Polish. But hell, you might be right who knows with Tommy haha
ben voted trump.....he's the cool one here
Oh hi mark
the room + TWO francos? getting me to watch this would involve 3 able bodied men and chloroform.
Ben lives on autopilot like most liberals.
I just watched this movie. Honestly, I found it quite boring.
It was terrific, what are you talking about!
Franco is pretending to act badly when is actually the best he can do. He´s a terrible actor who has passed for a good one- I really don't know how. His acting in everything, especially in that James Dean movie, is laughable. Gave me second hand embarrassment there.
Foreigner lmao go home hater
Yet he’s been in more movies than you and nominated for more Oscars than you. Funny.
Have you seen "The Deuce?"
lol, Franco´s pots are asking their plants to be back to their place. They´re about to be watered- wink, wink
Foreigner you haven't seen Howl