Wow I never thought the voyagers would ever get another new home I would love to see them working for GWR I want to see them working London to Carmarthen and Penzance working alongside Class. 80X and HSTs
Lovely stuff, I was on 221142 coming home that day; I was on a later service. I was totally unaware GC had 221's. Its sad about the 180's theyre good trains to travel on and sound amazing but they all need a major overhaul to stand any chance of avoiding the cutter's torch :(
@@terrier_productions I read also that it was due to a few of their adelantes as usual ”going nowhere”. Id guess if the problems carry on they may end up taking more voyagers.
yeah..The 180s really are a troubled class. I've just realised that this will mean that GC will have the only tilting trains on the ECML@@MaterialAmbience
Shame the HST fleet is going all together. These 800’s all being built on the cheap. CrossCountry’s HSTs aren’t being replaced either. It’s understandable GC would get a couple of voyagers to keep them going
@@redgoon698 yes it is but all in all, they are 47 years old. When XC withdraw their HSTs, the only place to see HSTs in revenue earning passenger service will be Scotland
Good to catch up with you Chris, it's been a while. I think we had a fairly decent spell there as things go - just edited my movie together this evening. 221142 in its new hybrid livery was a nice surprise. See your shot on the big screen of 66510 I can see why it needed Thunderbird 57010 not too long after!
I’m freinds with a lineside worker near crofton and they said when EMR 810s roll in EMR Will Give Their 222s To Grand Central As The Voyagers Can Only Be Stored At Crofton Due To The Traction Equipment. So It’ll Be 222s Allocated London - Sunderland And Voyagers On London - Bradford. This Is Not Official And May Be Altered.
i’m sure this is a question that’s been asked before but will the red roof stay even with the voyagers in grand central livery? i always wondered why avanti didn’t change the colour of the roof
I have very little dealings with the 180's as I live in Pendolino country, and even fewer with the 175's but...........considering they are meant to be very similar, what is it about the 180's that make them so much more unreliable? I'm not saying the 175's are much better, I genuinely don't know. But if anyone does know, please let me know. Also 221 in GC livery looks very very good indeed.
Pity they can't run a decent train service. The last 3 times I had tickets to travel with them the service was cancelled, its more of a train lottery than train service.
Wow I never thought the voyagers would ever get another new home I would love to see them working for GWR I want to see them working London to Carmarthen and Penzance working alongside Class. 80X and HSTs
Nice one Chris, see those 180's somehow live on
Cheers Brad. I doubt they'll be around much longer...
Those Class 91’s look good in the retro livery.
Very enjoyable video Chris, cheers Mike.
Cheers Mike.
Very good video Chris.
Amazing video 😁
Nice.
Lovely stuff, I was on 221142 coming home that day; I was on a later service. I was totally unaware GC had 221's. Its sad about the 180's theyre good trains to travel on and sound amazing but they all need a major overhaul to stand any chance of avoiding the cutter's torch :(
They've got two on trial as Avanti is withdrawing them to make way for their new IETs..
@@terrier_productions I read also that it was due to a few of their adelantes as usual ”going nowhere”. Id guess if the problems carry on they may end up taking more voyagers.
yeah..The 180s really are a troubled class. I've just realised that this will mean that GC will have the only tilting trains on the ECML@@MaterialAmbience
@@terrier_productions 221142 did appear to tilt when I rode it, though I'd be surprised if they didnt isolate it for lower maintenance like xc did.
The 180s were problem children right from the start hence the Class 180 faults video that became a meme!!
The GC livery looks wonderful on the 221. Sad to see them go from the WCML
Shame they didn't livery the whole unit.
Hoping it's just a temporary thing so customers are aware that it's a Grand Central train and that they finish the whole train 😃
Shame the HST fleet is going all together. These 800’s all being built on the cheap. CrossCountry’s HSTs aren’t being replaced either. It’s understandable GC would get a couple of voyagers to keep them going
@@redgoon698 yes it is but all in all, they are 47 years old. When XC withdraw their HSTs, the only place to see HSTs in revenue earning passenger service will be Scotland
@@terrier_productionsand even then - maybe not for long.
Good to catch up with you Chris, it's been a while. I think we had a fairly decent spell there as things go - just edited my movie together this evening. 221142 in its new hybrid livery was a nice surprise. See your shot on the big screen of 66510 I can see why it needed Thunderbird 57010 not too long after!
You too Darren. Yes I'd describe the day as "average" which I guess shows how good it sometimes gets there.
I’m freinds with a lineside worker near crofton and they said when EMR 810s roll in EMR Will Give Their 222s To Grand Central As The Voyagers Can Only Be Stored At Crofton Due To The Traction Equipment. So It’ll Be 222s Allocated London - Sunderland And Voyagers On London - Bradford. This Is Not Official And May Be Altered.
I’m guessing Grand Central are keeping the 221s temporarily as they’re definitely in an interim livery
I was further up, would've stayed for the purple 180 but rain was getting heavier up here!
Rain? Where were you?
@@cmeonthemove Up between Newark and Retford
i’m sure this is a question that’s been asked before but will the red roof stay even with the voyagers in grand central livery? i always wondered why avanti didn’t change the colour of the roof
That, out of all the things to replace a HST? Wtf were they thinking
I see the fox coming to do a bit of train spotting as well.
Yes the fox popped up a couple of times.
Do you know if Grand Central is keeping the tilt function on their 221s? If so, that would mean outstanding ride quality.
The tilt system probably won't be removed, but it won't be active since it needs trackside balises to activate, which there are none of on the ecml.
I have very little dealings with the 180's as I live in Pendolino country, and even fewer with the 175's but...........considering they are meant to be very similar, what is it about the 180's that make them so much more unreliable? I'm not saying the 175's are much better, I genuinely don't know. But if anyone does know, please let me know.
Also 221 in GC livery looks very very good indeed.
GC should acquire some more voyagers once Avanti is done with them so that maybe the 222s could go to XC?
222s can't work with XC's existing fleet of Voyagers (different electrical connections and TMS systems).
@@realkasumi5443 oh
they are getting 16 all together Grand Central
@@sprinterofficial8457 Thats good
Hi mate. Where were you standing at Marholm? This looks a cracking viewing point.
Hurn Road footbridge.
@@cmeonthemove Thanks
Pity they can't run a decent train service. The last 3 times I had tickets to travel with them the service was cancelled, its more of a train lottery than train service.
3:02 since when did EMR run on the ECML?
Some ex-EMR 180s are on loan to GC, for the same reason as the 221s.
158s and 170s run between Grantham and Peterborough
10:34 long train vs short train
lol
11:35 fox
why keep the roof red and not do the whole thing, screams incompetence