You got sucked into watching the whole thing like I did. It was interesting, but I have a feeling that if I don’t remember it, it probably won’t matter. Too many other toys on my list before a domino. But, who knows, maybe the wife will spoil one of these days.😂😂
Lol, I went down to the workshop tonight to do this exact thing with my Domino, and in the back of my mind I was thinking "didn't I watch a youtube video about this?". Went straight through the other side of a workpiece I'd already put several hours into. Came back upstairs, watched this video again, slapped myself in the forehead and went back down.
at 2:38 you can see it pop back a little once it's released. If you want it to be a shade more precise, keep the pressure on, tighten it, and then release the pressure.
I have done a LOT of miter joints with mine, the only difference is I’ve never used the domino on my plywood boxes normally just glue will hold. But now I know what to do when I eventually use it for plywood.
I have an abundance of 8mm dominos. I have used lots of them in similar setups. I also sometimes put a piece of 1/10" acrylic sheet on the base to move the cutter even closer to the inside corner. Works a charm. Thanks for the video.
Did you ever try a 45 degree miter? I am making a corner shelf that has a depth of 16 inches, so I can hang my 75" tv up in the corner out of toddlers reach. The back corner will be the standard 90 degree angle, but the front corners are 45's so I will need to cut them 22.5 degrees. Do you think by adding 1/4 " or more, you could use dominos? The inside will be concealed so I wouldn't be concerned if the dominoes were visible on the inside.
I've recently discovered your channel and enjoy very much your concise way of reviewing tools and sharing your knowledge. Your military background has definitely influenced your attention to detail, teaching style, and no BS approach to explaining things. Well done as always and please keep producing this great content. -30 year woodworker
That's something I never knew and I did run into that problem before. I just thought my machine was a lemon off the production line and would always have to compensate for it. Thankyou very much for the tip.
Jason, really great video. I remember that other people explained the order as well but you have explained it in a way I will never forget because you have shown the reason why it is necessary. Really great! Thanks so much! Please go ahead and do some more of such awesome videos.
@@bentswoodworking Another way to stop a domino from coming thru is cut it shorter. This works even in a spot that is flat but a person wants the thickness but not the length.
I’m fairly new to the domino. This was really informative seeing I had the same issue. I was building drawers and didn’t understand why that was happening. I used it as a Design eliminate but for future projects at least now I know why. Thanks a ton and Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
I have the same base for the Domino 500. A cabinet shop I used to help out at has a Domino 500 with the older pin style base. I don’t believe the older pin style base had this issue but I do seem to remember they had to adjust the pins and had to replace the pins once or twice. I know Festool likes to improve their products hence the new style stops like you are showing. Thanks for the information.
I've got a df 500 on its way so I'm trying to suck up every bit of knowledge I can. This one is great to know because I'm sure I'd be tearing my hair out trying to figure out what I was doing wrong! Lol thanks buddy
I have to say that after cutting over 10,000 mortises with my 15 year old Domino I have never heard that mith. In fact I have used the 5mm bit to do the same in 1/2” material to reinforce 45 degree mitered joints.
Have not had this issue yet as my Domino still has that new tool smell, but I'm sure I would have at some point. Thanks for sharing! Would probably not have figured that out without scraping a half dozen pieces.
Glad to to see you home ambassador ! Lets make something lol I think this slowed down version of why will help a lot of people I watched sedge and learned this one myself the crazy guy kinda grows on you don’t he lol 👍
Very nice clear and simple explanation! Thanks! Wondering if the 5mm domino would work for 1/2" thick material...or if some height modifications would be necessary?
So what your saying is that I am 1 of the 9 out of 10? I was hopeful that I would have been the 1 out of 10 that had this issue! Thanks very helpful ! Glad to see the internship is helping your knowledge of the not a big box store tool to help further our skills with money well spent tools. #getbentbaby
My question though is why do you need to bottom it out? Can’t you use the height stops to adjust how high/low your hood will go up the bevel slope? Then you can adjust your depth so you don’t go all the way through
Great explanation. Seems like a design flaw though if you get different results based on the order you do things to set up. I am trying to come up with another example where this can happen.
Wow, I probably made that error many times, the way I got around it was by plunge setting shorter depth and cutting my dominoes shorter. Now I will check and try that from now on. Cheers
Super informative! Question: If you had access to both and time wasn't an issue, would you prefer the domino for mitered 90 degree corners or a lock miter joint done on the router?
Did you think about doing the illustration cuts on the very edge of the workpiece so we could see the cross-section? Less stable cut but would have been a good view.
The Festool products are so highly engineered it's hard to understand all the functionality even after reading the manuals and using them for years, so thanks for that.
Hi! Great video! A question... I'm currently working with 16 mm material, I assume I'll still be able to use the 5 mm cutter, with a 5x30 domino with the 45 degree bevel, correct? Thank you.
Thank you for sharing that amazing tip! What model of domino machine are you using. I don't own one but I would like to . It looks like an extremely fast and strong Joint. I subscribed and I'm looking forward to more videos.
Great explanation. Is 3/4" about the thinnest material you would use with the 700? I am torn between purchasing the 700 and 500 and believe that the 700 (although heavier and more expensive) is more versatile but I understand that it will not work on thinner material...how thin? Thanks.
Still have to be careful on undersized plywood? Too close to the veneer when adding glue you could risk glue blowing out the veneer or bubbling it. Last project I used 5mm cutter setup how you show but only plunged 12mm and trimmed the dominos accordingly.
If you run into abnormally thin stock, then I would test it first for the reasons you mentioned. If the ply is 18mm I haven’t had any issues. If it gets down to 17, then it’s a different story.
Interesting! I don't own a domino, but I feel like I would have done this right off the bat and would have been puzzled. I can imagine doing dominos on projects and just going "Huh? Wait, this is set, this is set, ok why is it doing that???". This happened with me on my planer, My Dewalt 735 puzzled me for DAYS for planing and snipe, until I pointed both infeed/outfeed tables up at an angle. Same thing with my track saw (a Wen, which is a great saw for the money) for the tracks, but this applies to festool tracks or kreg as well. The stupid tracks when you put the stupid little track holders in to bolt them in are usually out a 1/16 to 1/8 when you put two sections together. For the Wen this was 55" plus 55" for 110" total. I took an 8 foot level on it's side on a level surface (not with the metal face of the level going across, it sags because 8 foot levels can't be trusted for this but on the side they can) then butted up the assembled track with semi tightened bolts to the track. Then I simply pull the track into the level, and do this back and forth until the clearance is less than .03 mm or less. Might not sound like a lot but when you are ripping glue joints on two side by side boards, that run out goes from 1/16 to 1/8 to 1/4 pretty quick on ever 4 feet. I wish they made a singular 110" track that required no bolts and was one piece. I don't feel like making my own guide, that's why I bought the stupid track saw lol.
I don't even own a domino, but yet, I feel like this is something I needed to know. :)
Same 😆
Glad you found it helpful
It applies to biscuits as well
You got sucked into watching the whole thing like I did. It was interesting, but I have a feeling that if I don’t remember it, it probably won’t matter. Too many other toys on my list before a domino. But, who knows, maybe the wife will spoil one of these days.😂😂
I'm saving this video for future Andrew to remember. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
Thanks for producing wonderful straightforward videos that are helping me be a better woodworker... even after 60 years of being in the shop. 😁
Glad to help
Lol, I went down to the workshop tonight to do this exact thing with my Domino, and in the back of my mind I was thinking "didn't I watch a youtube video about this?". Went straight through the other side of a workpiece I'd already put several hours into.
Came back upstairs, watched this video again, slapped myself in the forehead and went back down.
at 2:38 you can see it pop back a little once it's released. If you want it to be a shade more precise, keep the pressure on, tighten it, and then release the pressure.
You saved my butt with this video. I was just about to make this mistake. Thanks
Had to grab my domino to confirm as I never knew the fence went down that low. Thank you very much!
Glad I could help!
Sequence is everything! Helpful instruction. Thanks
Excellent tip Jason! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to answer this question. Now I’ll just send them this video 😀
You da man!!
I have done a LOT of miter joints with mine, the only difference is I’ve never used the domino on my plywood boxes normally just glue will hold. But now I know what to do when I eventually use it for plywood.
I have an abundance of 8mm dominos. I have used lots of them in similar setups. I also sometimes put a piece of 1/10" acrylic sheet on the base to move the cutter even closer to the inside corner. Works a charm. Thanks for the video.
Did you ever try a 45 degree miter? I am making a corner shelf that has a depth of 16 inches, so I can hang my 75" tv up in the corner out of toddlers reach. The back corner will be the standard 90 degree angle, but the front corners are 45's so I will need to cut them 22.5 degrees. Do you think by adding 1/4 " or more, you could use dominos? The inside will be concealed so I wouldn't be concerned if the dominoes were visible on the inside.
I've recently discovered your channel and enjoy very much your concise way of reviewing tools and sharing your knowledge. Your military background has definitely influenced your attention to detail, teaching style, and no BS approach to explaining things. Well done as always and please keep producing this great content. -30 year woodworker
Oh man, that's so useful. I just tried a new domino on a 45. and was cursing when it broke through. Thanks for sharing Jason 👍
Easy yet extremely helpful. Thanks for sharing Jason.
Glad to help!
I'm glad I researched this and came upon your video. I'm about to plunge into some mitered red oak trimming out a table and knew there was more to it.
Thank You for the Tip Jason 👍
You bet!
Thanks for the right way to do these. I as having that problem once in a while. Keep them coming.
Glad to help
Thanks so much! Probably saved a bunch or people’s projects.
Holy cow !!! You’re highLight a current mistake i made. Thanks a lot.
You are welcome!
That's something I never knew and I did run into that problem before. I just thought my machine was a lemon off the production line and would always have to compensate for it. Thankyou very much for the tip.
Glad I could help
Jason, really great video. I remember that other people explained the order as well but you have explained it in a way I will never forget because you have shown the reason why it is necessary. Really great! Thanks so much! Please go ahead and do some more of such awesome videos.
Glad you found it helpful
@@bentswoodworking Another way to stop a domino from coming thru is cut it shorter. This works even in a spot that is flat but a person wants the thickness but not the length.
I’m fairly new to the domino. This was really informative seeing I had the same issue. I was building drawers and didn’t understand why that was happening. I used it as a Design eliminate but for future projects at least now I know why. Thanks a ton and Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
Same to you!!
Thank you Ben.
Fantastic tip, thank you! Just got my domino, learning as much as I can before taking it out for its maiden project.
I have the same base for the Domino 500. A cabinet shop I used to help out at has a Domino 500 with the older pin style base. I don’t believe the older pin style base had this issue but I do seem to remember they had to adjust the pins and had to replace the pins once or twice. I know Festool likes to improve their products hence the new style stops like you are showing. Thanks for the information.
Fantastic explanation!! Save me some big headaches. Thank you
Glad it helped!
Great info. Major order of setting, most would miss. Thank you for this video!
I have watched a lot of Festool videos, but I don't recall this.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks, Bent I didn't know that
Merry Christmas and Happy new years to you.
Same to you!
Excellent little tip. Nothing like ruining a work piece… this will save me that grief.
Agreed!
I've got a df 500 on its way so I'm trying to suck up every bit of knowledge I can. This one is great to know because I'm sure I'd be tearing my hair out trying to figure out what I was doing wrong! Lol thanks buddy
Thanks, I need this information about 24 hours ago. LOL
Great Domino Tip, keep them coming, thanks!
Thanks, will do!
Sucking up all the content I can since buying the DF 500. Thanks!
Great information..... thanks for sharing this valuable tidbit.
Glad it was helpful!
You are truly a master of explaining things so efficiently and effectively! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with the ww community!
You're very welcome!
Brilliant instructional video. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, thank you!
Excellent tutorial, well done! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for that Jason
Something I didn’t know
Magic 🔨👍
Wow - an incredibly subtle hidden stop. Clever design, but definitely would have made this mistake since it is so hard to notice.
I have to say that after cutting over 10,000 mortises with my 15 year old Domino I have never heard that mith. In fact I have used the 5mm bit to do the same in 1/2” material to reinforce 45 degree mitered joints.
By the numbers.
Thank you Sir! As always your videos are useful, relevant and timely. Just got my DF500.
Great to hear!
Thanks a ton
Most welcome!
Good stuff.. Thank you for educating.... keep it up.
Thanks for watching!
Great video, very informative!!! Thanks for sharing Jason.
You bet!
Thanks for your sharing. It is really useful.
Glad it was helpful!
Great job man! Thank you for sharing this trick. 👍🏻
No problem 👍
Thank you for sharing that
My pleasure
Thats a great tip!
Thank you very much !!!
You are welcome!
I figured that out the hard way soon after I had bought my Domino... 😄
Been there
@@bentswoodworking every Domino owner has been there.
I think between my collection and yours we could make an amazing corn maze with our sustainers.
That would be awesome
thanks ! appreciate that
No problem!
My Domino is the older version with steel locating pins rather than the nylon version shown. They do not interfere with the depth setting.
Have not had this issue yet as my Domino still has that new tool smell, but I'm sure I would have at some point. Thanks for sharing! Would probably not have figured that out without scraping a half dozen pieces.
Holy crap. Whaaaaat. 🤯
This is a great tip and a good video pal
Glad you enjoyed it
thank you
Glad to to see you home ambassador ! Lets make something lol I think this slowed down version of why will help a lot of people I watched sedge and learned this one myself the crazy guy kinda grows on you don’t he lol 👍
Year there isn’t much I can make that he hasn’t covered lol.
@@bentswoodworking I liked your version of the explanation of the domino 👍 glad to have you back looking forward to your next project !
Very nice clear and simple explanation! Thanks! Wondering if the 5mm domino would work for 1/2" thick material...or if some height modifications would be necessary?
So what your saying is that I am 1 of the 9 out of 10? I was hopeful that I would have been the 1 out of 10 that had this issue! Thanks very helpful ! Glad to see the internship is helping your knowledge of the not a big box store tool to help further our skills with money well spent tools. #getbentbaby
My question though is why do you need to bottom it out? Can’t you use the height stops to adjust how high/low your hood will go up the bevel slope? Then you can adjust your depth so you don’t go all the way through
Great tip! More Domino vids please!
Will do!
Great explanation. Seems like a design flaw though if you get different results based on the order you do things to set up. I am trying to come up with another example where this can happen.
Thank you for this.
Wow, I probably made that error many times, the way I got around it was by plunge setting shorter depth and cutting my dominoes shorter. Now I will check and try that from now on. Cheers
Glad you found it helpful
Super informative!
Question:
If you had access to both and time wasn't an issue, would you prefer the domino for mitered 90 degree corners or a lock miter joint done on the router?
Did you think about doing the illustration cuts on the very edge of the workpiece so we could see the cross-section? Less stable cut but would have been a good view.
Usefull 🎉thanks !!
You're welcome 😊
The Festool products are so highly engineered it's hard to understand all the functionality even after reading the manuals and using them for years, so thanks for that.
Not much, but thanks for asking.
Hi!
Great video!
A question... I'm currently working with 16 mm material, I assume I'll still be able to use the 5 mm cutter, with a 5x30 domino with the 45 degree bevel, correct?
Thank you.
Nice!
Well you probably just saved me $200s of sheet goods for the columns I'm about to make. I own you a beer or a few.
I’ll take you up on that
Thank you for sharing that amazing tip! What model of domino machine are you using. I don't own one but I would like to . It looks like an extremely fast and strong Joint. I subscribed and I'm looking forward to more videos.
It’s the domino 500
Great explanation. Is 3/4" about the thinnest material you would use with the 700? I am torn between purchasing the 700 and 500 and believe that the 700 (although heavier and more expensive) is more versatile but I understand that it will not work on thinner material...how thin? Thanks.
I haven't found a good way to clamp these domino miters, I can never get the miters to close. Any tips?
I use 6 or 8mm dominos, but only plunge 10mm deep.
I knew that.
Wait…….are you the one that makes mousepads?????
@@bentswoodworking I do make Dragonfly Pads for your mouse
Still have to be careful on undersized plywood? Too close to the veneer when adding glue you could risk glue blowing out the veneer or bubbling it. Last project I used 5mm cutter setup how you show but only plunged 12mm and trimmed the dominos accordingly.
If you run into abnormally thin stock, then I would test it first for the reasons you mentioned. If the ply is 18mm I haven’t had any issues. If it gets down to 17, then it’s a different story.
Where can I find your shop apron?
Leather by dragonfly
Never had that issue with my plate joiner. And it didn’t cost 700 bucks either.
I’m happy for you
👍👍👍
Dowels are better in this case
The More You Know.
I feel a little foolish for not having figured this out. Thanks for the hot tip :)
Interesting! I don't own a domino, but I feel like I would have done this right off the bat and would have been puzzled. I can imagine doing dominos on projects and just going "Huh? Wait, this is set, this is set, ok why is it doing that???". This happened with me on my planer, My Dewalt 735 puzzled me for DAYS for planing and snipe, until I pointed both infeed/outfeed tables up at an angle. Same thing with my track saw (a Wen, which is a great saw for the money) for the tracks, but this applies to festool tracks or kreg as well. The stupid tracks when you put the stupid little track holders in to bolt them in are usually out a 1/16 to 1/8 when you put two sections together. For the Wen this was 55" plus 55" for 110" total. I took an 8 foot level on it's side on a level surface (not with the metal face of the level going across, it sags because 8 foot levels can't be trusted for this but on the side they can) then butted up the assembled track with semi tightened bolts to the track. Then I simply pull the track into the level, and do this back and forth until the clearance is less than .03 mm or less. Might not sound like a lot but when you are ripping glue joints on two side by side boards, that run out goes from 1/16 to 1/8 to 1/4 pretty quick on ever 4 feet. I wish they made a singular 110" track that required no bolts and was one piece. I don't feel like making my own guide, that's why I bought the stupid track saw lol.
Hehe the sedge explanation video with a less annoying voice :)
How did you know it was 9 out of 10 owners, did you ask every one of them?
Didn’t follow the 4 laws of domino jointing #Sedge
.... People are so stupid do not understand this... Nooo impossible
You buy a $1k tool and dont know how to use it? money can't do everything for you