I built $60 VR Haptic Gloves to feel Virtual Reality.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- It's finally here! The overview of Prototype 4 of my LucidGloves!!!
Now with force feedback haptics!
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My Girlfriend is blind and this could be a very freaking nice option to let her play VR. We did try skyrim VR and half life alyx because the directional sounds works pretty good but it requier alot of "me" involve to explain the surrounding. With haptics feedbacks (as much as possible), she could ultimatly go trough a game with me only text to speech quests and such. now, lot of you might be well.. could be useless anyway since she cant see the 3d effect of the googles. Hmmm yeah but still, she autonomously games at some games, she just finished her master at university and she is now working. oh and of course, she won 2nd place in 2019 at the world championship of blind fencing. After all that, what i meant is that she is not about to give up on having a descent VR experience and YOU SIR, you are on your way to make this possible so much faster then we ever expected. thanks alot! im following this closely and oh yeah!, happy new year! ;)
How does blind fencing work. Do they hear the blade coming at them.
Good luck
Has she tried playing 'The Vale: Shadow of the Crown'? Its a game entirely designed for blind people. Its really good too.
@@tylerfiore9758 it works like this- honestly it’s really interesting
th-cam.com/video/K8QapeXC6Is/w-d-xo.html
It’s more about feeling and hearing
I bet it wouldn't even be too hard to get text to speech to work for the menus, if you haven't already got that figured out. There is also a mod already out there that uses text to speech to voice the player, and it even has voice recognition so you could speak for the dialogue instead of trying to figure out which one is the one you want to use.
Dropping by here from the LTT video just to say that this is insanely impressive. Huge respect for you and your peers! I hope to get a 3D printer soon and I cannot wait to make myself a pair of these! Keep it up!
A cheap vr treadmill sounds like an amazing idea! I wonder how you’ll approach running, strafing and jumping. Getting that natural seems like a beastly task!
This needs to happen. If this actually works, which it seems like it does, then I hope you get the attention of Valve or something so that they can fund development on this, get the best parts possible for reliability, performance quality, and shrink it down a bit, and then bring this to market as a consumer device.
I'm not sure if you've innovated beyond what some of the big companies have played around with in their labs, but if you've managed to develop a working prototype that is most importantly very low cost with honestly a great start on the size of it too, then this has massive potential for actually becoming a legit consumer device at a consumer price point.
Maybe not $60 if you team up with some company, but even if it were $300 by the end of it with their help and ability to source the right components and materials and R&D the crap out of it, for high quality consumer haptic gloves, the index controllers cost that much. It's entirely possible and you would be the cause for what changes VR forever.
Keep doing what you're doing man and make these the best haptic gloves at the lowest price point possible.
Just please try to get Valve's attention, or any company that has the ability to take make the most out of it and bring this to consumers! (preferably Valve because...it's Valve, and they literally own steamvr lol). It would be a dream to see this become reality in a consumer device..
More reactions of others using the gloves, please! It was really cool to see how others reacted when they put them on and tried it out in game!
This is awesome! The only thing holding me back is how cumbersome it looks, and how it seems like it might be a pain to get off and on, as well as durability. Prototype 5 should totally be optimizing and streamlining the glove, maybe giving it a shell to hide all the electronics and hold them in place better, making it so the glove can be slipped on and off without worry of breaking anything, and making it more compact, etc. Most of all, wireless would be a HUGE added perk. Having a big usb b cable is pretty clunky. To me, this project looks like it is ready to move out of prototype and ready to move onto a more user friendly development scheme. This isn't me saying you should do it this way or that way, it is just my suggestions and ideas. It is your project fully and you are free to do whatever you want with it. This is such an awesome project and I am very much looking forward to the future of it!
... You do know each prototype is made for ease of creation?
Mans gonna revolutionize commercial VR by himself, what a lad.
Not gonna lie, im here cause of LTT's video but i've been hooked on VR for so long. I love showing it to friends and family and having it blow their mind. Super keen to have a go build them. Be super cool if there was ever a way to hack them directly into the Quest2, on the go full hand VR.....stuff of dreams right there
You sir are the next big push in the VR community, I don't have any knowledge in coding or modding but I'd love to help in any way I can.
FINALY YOU'VE DID IT!!!! CONGRATULATIONS! I was waiting soo long for this video, I hope the best for your next projects
It'd be so cool to actually simulate weight, or recoil, or even vibrations. This would help seriously with melee weapons, guns, stealth games, survival, and with the haptic gloves, it would actually feel like you're there.
What you are doing for the VR community is amazing thanks so much!
As someone who has been intrigued in the world of virtual reality, Brooke turning into their personas to be recorded and live streamed in the internet, and worlds where u use literal physical movements, I would love to see gloves work so well and become affordable to look like they are holding and taking drinks of something, or my idea of using a “hand cam” with a controller to show my hand movements onto a virtual controller.
I do believe you will create something wonderful in the market and be sure I will def get some when it comes around for comfort use on objects and items.
Me sinto tão orgulhoso, é emocionante. Parabéns, Lucas! você já está marcado na história da tecnologia e também na história Brasileira, no futuro, será ensinado nas escolas como um fato curioso: "Você sabia que um brasileiro revolucionou essas luvas e liberou para todos poderem criar suas próprias versões?" MANO! Santos Dumont DA ERA MODERNA!! criou os aviões e incentivou para que as pessoas pudessem criar suas próprias versões! Você me deu esperança em um momento sombrio, ascendeu uma chama que estava quase se apagando, obrigado, irmão brasileiro.
That is awesome. Well done. :)
OK, this kid is going to places. Very impressive. Well Done, Lucas; I saw you on LMG; great job, my friend.
Omg.. Just discovered your channel. The world needs more people like you. Seriously
I can't wait for these! I am pretty new to VR but i am so diving in head first.
HE'S BACK. Been waiting for an update on the progress of this project
This is about to change everything... being able to hold stuff?? This is amazing!
You're going to see a lot of comments like this, but I'm leaving it anyway. Awesome work! I saw the LTT video and immediately came over and subbed! I've got a suggestion that I think will be extremely simple to integrate, but you might have heard it before. Vibration motors. There are flat disk shaped vibration motors and I think it would give just enough feedback to the player when they shoot a gun, or better yet, when they pull the trigger and they're out of ammo, the lack of a vibration would be a really nice touch. Just a thought. Awesome work! I really want to make these and I don't even have a VR headset 😅
You are a hero amongst men. I've built 4 VR laboratories and at my most recent one we're planning to build the gloves you designed. Thank you very much.
Dude, I am so happy for you that you have latched onto something so cool and useful so early in your career! This is a really cool project that has all the hallmarks of a community staple and I wish you every success with it! As they say "we will be watching your career with great interest".
Thats tomorrow?!
Yep :/
You have made my whole year and it's only Jan. I have been looking for something like this but never thought to look for a diy build. You are awesome!
hope this video is spread out more so more people can see stuff like this
I cant wait for stuff like this to be widely available.
I don't know where to start man. You develop something that involves electronics, automation, interfacing with computer and software, and you make it work well, and lightweight. And above that, you make it open source... I'm an Engineer, 30 years in the field. This deserves a very big congrats. Keep up the good work!
1. Holy crap these look like irl Russels
2. We definitely need more entry-level tech in the VR space, and doubly so for stuff that isn't Facebook-monopolised
3. My main question with these is how they work with guns, can it be configured so that a simulated gun can stop each finger at a precise point around its virtual grip, and can the trigger be simulated with resistance and possibly a break?
4. Pronouns would be nice as you have a really neutral presentation and I wanna make sure I respect that if its what youre going for
Just found the channel and subscribed to see where it goes.
@nikto nic I assume you've also seen the LTT video in which case he seems to make it pretty clear there. Good for him!
You absolutely nailed it. Brilliant engineering, cheap to build and then also open source. I applaud to you!
Such a talented, driven individual.
I am so proud of you making this progress, and working towards your goals.
Good luck in your endeavors friend.
these gloves, and the possible treadmill alongside with the new retina high fov headsets that will likely drop in 2022 will be a game changing combo.. like going from an old gameboy to nintendo switch
Came here from LTT. I don’t have the expertise to build this but as soon as it’s available To order I’m buying a pair. Keep being amazing man
VR haptic gloves (to feel VR items), with precise finger tracking (even when cameras can't see them) & the ability to simulate 8 buttons by touching finger tips to thumb, would take VR to the next level with universal appeal. I have a top of the range RTX4090 PC but I hate game controllers, with visual finger tracking being too unreliable, so I won't buy VR gear until gloves like that are available.i really hope you can help these gloves become a reality, and if so, sign me up for some. :)
Lucas, come back!!!!! We need you.
i'm chocked, this guy lokks like a teenager and he is more competent than most engineer i know :o ! You're amazing men i subscribe !
dude you are amazing! Also thanks to the growing community support! I am so excited about this!
The project is definitely dope. Your energy is doper.
Maybe the motors and bulky electronics could be pulled back to the forearms with a strap and pad so it looks like a power glove, it would also free up space for the controller/vive tracker on the top of your hand, with a raised stand so the strings can pass under. Mounting the servo assembly on the forearm would also let you have an even more rigid platform for haptics
You have evolutionized the brink of virtual reality i deeply thank you for this. Im excited to see more progress to the upgraded versions pf this gloves!
I made a really cheap vr tredmill by sticking furniture sliders on old shoes, and putting office carpet in a bowl shaped piece of wood, and then I used 4 bungee cords to make a grid shape, then you stand in the middle and you can run smoothly
Man these can be so much better then what they are now, that thing HUGE
this man is single-handedly changing the world of vr
Really cool man, can't wait to see this progress
You are a hero
And you are tackling the affordable treadmill problem? You are a hero times 2!!!
This is exactly what I was waiting for before jumping in to build myself a pair of these. I'm definitely excited to see how future upgrades go
I’ve been wanting to make these for a while and I think I’m going to do it
A idea from someone who routinely has half decent ideas. :p
Create a bracer to mount your servos to, as this would give you a lot more real estate for mounting and freeing up space on your hands for other forms of haptics. To make it so you have full wrist movement you could have a relatively low hardness plastic tube and a cable of some sort that can handle compressive forces.
The plastic tube needs only to guide the cable from bracer to glove and resist the compressive force induced by the servo's restricting the movement of fingers. The cable could in theory be string, but could be made into something a bit more rigid in case you wanted some force feed back from the backs of fingers.
The bracer could also be used for force feed back on wrists with 4 more servo's, maybe 3 if the kinematics play nice.
Having adjustable mounts on the bracer (some leeway on the physical mount and maybe multiple mounting locations for the mounts) could also be used to accommodate multiple arm sizes and tuning the kinematics on a per person basis.
people like you change lifes to a better. I lovvvvee your work.
For the vr treadmill i think a ball like from those old mouse's would work pretty good. And then you could just attach them to the bottom of your shoe.
That might be a more seamless experience, those "slip" treadmills look good for walking but as soon as you run it's hard for it to keep up as you have no inertial movement like on a traditional treadmill
Not too sure he'll got for a traditional one tho as it would go against the idea of keeping it budget friendly and acessiable to lots of people
I can think of a couple applications of VR haptics where u might actually want things to feel squishy lmao
Thank you for setting the goal of making it accessible to as many people as possible that’s really incredible to see ❤️
I hope somebody's using this to create a force feedback attachment for the knuckles. That would actually be insane
Ther's this guy who is working on a 3d printed treadmil, called Modern Power, you should check him out, I would love to see a cooperation between you two.
This man is revolutionning the VR industry just by himself
We need to protect this man, and support him individually... don't let this idea and ease of access get eaten and distributed by a corporation.
you could try adding multiple little motors on the palm so that you have vibration and can "feel" things falling
I can't believe this, I will study this work becouse i find this amazing. Keep this work man, you are improving the world
I feel like a later prototype could possible be done as more of a gauntlet than a glove to spread out the bulk, plus, it may look cool as well
Not an expert at electronics but I've see that you can take apart a servo and read it's built in potenciometer to get it's angle so you could integrate t into the spool and reduce the size.
So cool, @Mark Rober needs to see this
2:14 Dude that's genius, I assumed it was all in code.
They still look clunky, but over time I think they will shrink and become more encased as more prototypes are made. It is pretty impressive though, and maybe future iterations will track side to side movement as well as each finger’s digit. I think that high speed servos could reduce the size by measuring the resistance of each string rather than using a springed potentiometer. That would also make force feedback a lot smoother and more directly controlled. It might be possible to take a normal motor and turn it into a servo by using some microcontrollers to measure the resistance which should give you more control in a smaller form factor. The beefier the motors the better. You could definitely benefit from direct control over the fingers by emulating squish physics and fluid resistance. Maybe you could make a whole jacket so that your entire arm feels resistance when you put your hand in water in Skyrim or when you pound against the wall in Boneworks. The whole idea is to make immersion extend beyond just hands so that the subtle movements of something can be detected when you least expect it. Elevating the sense of awareness and presence in a game is vital for suspense and brushing up against a wall in a quiet scene when you’re looking for an enemy would be one way to make someone get on edge. It’s essentially the zone x10. After a couple of hours in Skyrim VR I lose sense of reality, now imagine wearing a force feedback jacket. The games would definitely need mods to work with it, but it would be so worth it. I can’t wait to see where all this takes us, I bet some companies will pop up trying to do the same thing.
you can probably redesign the servo system so that the servo head is directly attached to the spool which would bring down noise and reduce the moving part count
I can def see the gloves being put into a kind of arm exoskeleton with a backpack for all the main tech, that way you can move most of it from your hand to your back or chest, or even shoulders
Man this is actually a product I would love to have.
I can imagine you can optimize and scale things down so the glove looks a bit less bulky and don't have wires go around all crazy like that.
And can probably reduce the size of the Tracker by going Tundra tracker.
You should add some vibration motors for more accuracy.
great job man! 👍🏻 found you on LTT
god damn, you should make a kickstarter for this, it's amazing
you can add compressive springs, at the end of those screws, and depending on their coefficient simulate softness of an object
This is awesome dude. This is what the open source community is all about. The world needs more people like you.
You will be made one day very soon. I wish you the very best.
You are so young too... Great job.
you're really good at explaining this stuff, great video man. keep at it!
Bro.
You've gotten a sub from me for sure. Great video and keep up the amazing work!!
I just got a VR headset recently so TH-cam has been recommending things, I am SO glad that your video came up. This was so well made and I'm looking forward to looking through your previous videos and I hope to eventually build some of these.
Side note, I'm guessing hand size scaling up is pretty straight forward?
As a programmer, I often want a way to write code with a flying virtual keyboard. I imagine typing a few letters on this keyboard and then pointing to the nearest match - virtual intellisense, with the ability to grab code, drop it into a separate text area and the grabbed code is replaced by the name of the new function.
It looks like he's trying to blink a morse code
I hope there is a mod or some extremely talented individual who can make one for H3 that would make these compatible with the game. Trigger feel and everything, honestly it would be insane being able to actually feel the trigger release with every pull and actually feel a pin pull out of a grenade
Very cool. Sad that all the parts aren't available in my country and I'm too lazy finding out where to get them. ^^
Keep up the good work. If this get's more attention, you'll probably be hired by a company. :)
This project is so incredible and I’m so exciting to finally get my hands on a pair soon.
What a Badass!
Major Respect. Doing Gods Work.
Thought 1. Can might be able to move the motors and other mechanical parts back to the upper arm or even back by using a "braking wire" similar to a "Bowden Tube" filement feeder. It would be much lighter and if the cable is inelastic enough, it would work just as well.
Thought 2. You can emulate a soft subject with the servos. But you would need a load sensor to detect the force.
Deep learning will help in getting in-game item dimensions.
Dude, you're doing incredible things for the people. If I ever make a name for myself out there, I'm gonna sponsor your work so you have more resources at your disposal. That'll probably be a while tho, see you in the future
Didn't he only have like 10.000 or less subs one year ago.
Time flies lol, good luck with even more gloves
THIS IS SO SICK!! YOU ARE SO SMART!
you could move the PCB cicuits on to the wrist(palm site) and the motors on to the wrist .So the hand will be free to move i guess
i really hope u can make a VR treadmill your a legend for this
You'll escape from a cave very soon, if you keep this work up.
Господи, надеюсь тебя ждёт большое будущее, и ты сможешь с такими же талантливыми людьми ещё сильнее двигать VR индустрию. Было бы прекрасно, если бы к примеру «Valve» связались бы с тобой, потому что то, что ты делаешь реально круто! УДАЧИ!!!
So weird. I actually sketched out plans for something extremely similar to this a few days ago. In mine it used cables though instead of string because it seems like if you're grabbing something like a sword, you might be inclined to squeeze extremely hard and break the string. I had ideas to use though so you could hold a virtual mouse even without a headset on and click mouse buttons that weren't there and get the same sensation. If you haven't already tested it out I also though using two to type on a keyboard would be a cool, practical and legitimate way to test the feel and accuracy of the gloves. This is incredibly cool, you should try and take this to get funded somehow. File patents as well. Variations of This technology will take us up to the point we jack into VR.
This man is literally changing the game for VR keep it up!
seems cool, but i'm too old for diy projects like this. i'll wait till you make a commercial version
cant wait to finally feel guns in my hands
I hope this guy's innovation on that doesn't get ripped off by some big company. Would be cool if Valve contacted him to make a premium version with Valve standards and looks
I have an idea for a fingertip pressure haptic. It’s full magnetic and requires 2 analog inputs per fingertip, but it should be possible to tell the difference between wood and metal synthetically. This assumes that you have 20 units installed(2 per finger) and have already built prototype 4. It’s going to take me a year to work out the bugs, but I don’t see them costing $80 for a full set of 20.
You could say thrillseeker was thrilled
we need more people like lucas, man is going places
cheer up bro! it look really cool !
you have a *HUUUUUGE FREAKIN FUTURE* MY DUDE!!