Will AI mean we no longer need doctors? | Enrico Coiera | TEDxMacquarieUniversity

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  • AI is changing the way we work, with some jobs disappearing to be replaced by smart machines. Some researchers are saying doctors are one such profession ripe for disruption. But how likely is it your doctor is headed for early retirement? Enrico Coiera is the Director of the NHMRC Centre of Research Excellence in Digital Health with 10 years’ experience at the prestigious HP Research Laboratories in the UK. In 2015, he was awarded the highest international award in his discipline, the International Medical Informatics Association (IMIA) François Grémy Award for Excellence. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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  • @user-xi3nq9hv6p
    @user-xi3nq9hv6p ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Three and a half years later, and Enrico Coeira’s discussion on this topic is only more relevant each day. I was particularly impressed by his analogy of semi-autonomous vehicles. ChatGPT may be able to pass medical boards, and AI may be able to perform certain tasks better than a human, but the need for a physician to keep their hands on the wheel will not be going away anytime soon. One thought-provoking idea is the thought of a future world where humans have increasingly more monitors and sensors that can be automatically monitored by an AI physician-assistant. The AI can notify the patient when a concerning change happens within the body, and automatically send a report to the patient’s physician of the changes along with a list of examinations to do and a potential list of differential diagnoses.
    However, AI still won’t be able to replace physicians altogether. AI has the potential to perform certain tasks better than humans, such as interpreting large amounts of medical data quickly and accurately. However, doctors bring important skills to healthcare that AI is unlikely to replicate, such as empathy, creativity, and critical thinking. We’ve seen that artificial communication can actually be more effective than human interaction in some circumstances - for instance, AI has been able to analyze the most important and effective actions of talk therapy and replicate it. However, there are some obvious limitations.
    Artificial communication is typically based on pre-programmed responses or algorithms, whereas human interaction is much more dynamic and adaptable. Human interaction allows for the exchange of complex ideas, the sharing of personal experiences, and the development of shared understanding and empathy. In contrast, artificial communication is limited to the information that is available in its database and may struggle to understand or respond to complex or nuanced situations. Humans are able to pick up on social cues, respond appropriately to emotional states, and adjust their communication style to fit the situation. In contrast, artificial communication is often limited to a predefined set of responses or actions and may not be able to adapt to changes in the situation or respond to unexpected events Artificial communication lacks the emotional intelligence and empathy that is inherent in human interaction. Humans are able to sense and respond to the emotions of others, which is a crucial aspect of effective communication and building relationships. This is particularly important in the emotionally charged situations that are all-too common in serious health matters. AI may be able to assist with certain aspects of healthcare, but it cannot replace the need for human interaction and communication.

    • @gamma4053
      @gamma4053 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "keep their hands on the wheel will not be going away anytime soon." we have nurses for that. And we don't have to pay them much. Believe it or not AI will wipe out %95 of doctors. Deal with it.

    • @ThunderZephyr_
      @ThunderZephyr_ หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a study about AI being perceived as more empathetic to human docotrs (at least the average doctor).
      It is to my belief that humans as irriplacable is a cope. Which is humbling and terrifiying.

  • @rogers1609
    @rogers1609 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You have doctors who at the moment have said pain and suffering is no longer in our pervue no longer our baliwick. The opiate phohibition and the widespread vilification of patients who need pain meds has turbo charged the shift to A I. Doctors are meant to advocate for their patients many do the opposite. Doctors are no longer doctors but medical facilitators. A Monumental historic change and shift to a new medical model.

  • @asyahussain7560
    @asyahussain7560 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The discussion of artificial intelligence is always a fun one because there are so many endless points one can make and so much unknown. I do not believe that AI will replace doctors all together, but I do think it will begin to have much more space in the specialties in medicine that rely heavily on imaging, such as radiology and dermatology as was indicated in the video. For those who fear that AI will truly cause a shortage of career opportunities for future physicians, I think embracing the ways in which AI can help specific fields and make difficult tasks easier, thus reducing pressure on a clinician, should be the focal point of future conversations. To this day, we have seen that there are still medical errors and systemic issues that can occur on the daily within our hospital systems. This fact alone is the key reason why I think having an actual human’s brain and eyes in adjunct with computers will always be the superior method of medicine rather having only one. Even with statistics showing that AI is increasingly being developed to be more efficient than humans, I would argue many patients would not feel comfortable having a computer decide major life choices for them without a second opinion from an actual expert. Again, reinforcing this idea of AI and doctors working as a team. The physician is the expert but the AI provides more statistically sound evidence that would allow the medical management to be stronger and instill more confidence between patients and physician that the absolute best care if being provided.

  • @russellauger5067
    @russellauger5067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ethics are the first classes taken in a medical program. The cost of medical training always over-rides those ethics.

  • @marilynbouziane5530
    @marilynbouziane5530 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I must first of all say that I don't know much about AI,but from what I understand I don't think robots will ever replace human doctors..as a doctor myself, patients provide such a complexe range of feelings and emotions along side with physical worries..I can say that approximately 4 to 6 patients out of 10 in my clinic get better by simply providing emotional support..they rarely meam what they say, they formulate their inquiries in such multiple and intricate ways..Maybe or surely it will help humans in the imaging field or something repetitive and reliable on machines and microscopes like pathology, but can never replicate a good doctor -patient relationship.

  • @alexrc9866
    @alexrc9866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How old are the people who say they don't need doctors?

    • @warsamehashiomar5744
      @warsamehashiomar5744 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How old is the one doubting that statement..?.😊

  • @user-xs2ep9kq6z
    @user-xs2ep9kq6z ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enrico Coiera discusses the advances of AI, how it has already led to changes in all sorts of work fields, but now is spreading to medicine. He discusses a group of scientists that already think we shouldn’t train radiologists, as AI can do their job. AI certainly can be a fantastic resource, but it is an algorithm, good at doing “single simple tasks”, as Enrico says. Let’s think about medicine, how often do patients come in with “single simple tasks”? As a second-year medical student, I say more often than not. Doctors are constantly having to work through complex situations to provide better help for each patient. Allowing AI to take over for a human doctor is an ethical dilemma. As a doctor, I would never allow a random friend to take care of my patients and practice for a day, and why is that? Because my random friend isn’t a doctor, he doesn’t know how to help these patients. Sure, he can bandage a cut, prescribe a diabetes medication according to a chart, tell someone to take 2400 mg of ibuprofen per day, but if someone comes in with a deep laceration, with symptoms of a stroke or MI, or a serious psychological issue, he will not be able to effectively help my patient. If he can’t help my patient, my practice is no longer upholding the proper medical ethics of beneficence, or doing good, and justice, allowing equal healthcare to all my patients. It would not be fair for my patient to come into the clinic that day expecting to see me, their long-time physician, and to see my random friend that only knows how to fix single simple tasks, this would be unjust care and would not be doing good by them. It’s the same concept with AI. By allowing AI to take over the role of physician in healthcare, any care beyond the single simple tasks will not be provided. Having a doctor on call to respond to these situations isn’t good enough either. There are situations in healthcare that allow you only moments to act to save a life, or prevent it from becoming severely altered, seconds are precious. It could also be that I’m a doctor on call for a hospital and am helping another patient in crisis, thus I can’t go help that other patient. This takes us back to an unjust system. While AI may be quicker in a lot of instances, Enrico specifically mentions its superiority at looking at images such as X-Ray and MRI scans, this slight increase in efficacy in this one field doesn’t mean we should boot doctors from it entirely. We should be using technology and AI as tools and resources for doctors themselves to use to increase the quality of care, not replacing them with it.

  • @janinelargent9220
    @janinelargent9220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They can't even get machines to properly read an EKG. I'm not impressed

  • @Rash_o-qv4qb
    @Rash_o-qv4qb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:20 the weird thing is how did he know that he was watching Harry Potter before he got into an accident and died?

  • @shubhangipriya11
    @shubhangipriya11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    software engineer spent 10 yrs now wanted to study medicine. should 1 do it or not?

    • @jamalhashim7898
      @jamalhashim7898 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you want to make the switch?

    • @stephanimonster
      @stephanimonster ปีที่แล้ว

      of course! I'm in tourism and I'm studying for the MCAT

    • @alpeshmittal3779
      @alpeshmittal3779 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sw engineer will be the last job ai will take over

    • @PaulBateman69
      @PaulBateman69 ปีที่แล้ว

      A Big L

  • @hansrajjangid123
    @hansrajjangid123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am here from 2023 it is happening now

  • @user-he8uk8jb2j
    @user-he8uk8jb2j ปีที่แล้ว

    Coiera argues that while AI has the potential to transform the healthcare industry, it will never replace the vital role of doctors and healthcare providers. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining a human touch in healthcare and the need for ongoing collaboration between doctors and AI systems. Reflecting on Coiera's points, it's clear that the development and integration of AI in healthcare has both exciting possibilities and potential challenges. While AI can improve efficiency and accuracy, it cannot replace the human connection and empathy that is essential in healthcare. It's important to recognize that AI should be viewed as a tool to support medical professionals, rather than a replacement for them. Moreover, as AI becomes more prevalent in healthcare, it's crucial to address concerns about bias and ensure that these systems are developed and implemented in an ethical and responsible manner. Ultimately, the goal should be to strike a balance between the benefits of AI and the importance of preserving the human touch in healthcare. Enrico Coiera's talk on the potential impact of AI in healthcare raises some thought-provoking questions about the future of medicine. While the use of AI has the potential to greatly improve healthcare outcomes and reduce costs, it's important to consider the potential downsides and unintended consequences of relying too heavily on technology. One argument that could be made is that AI may perpetuate existing biases and inequalities in healthcare. Coiera notes that AI systems are only as unbiased as the data they are trained on, and if the data sets used to train these systems are biased or incomplete, then the AI may replicate and even amplify these biases. This could lead to AI systems making decisions that disproportionately harm certain groups of people, such as people of color, low-income individuals, or those with certain health conditions. Another argument to consider is that the use of AI in healthcare may reduce the amount of direct patient care provided by doctors and other healthcare providers. While AI systems can help with tasks such as diagnosis and treatment planning, they cannot replace the human touch and empathy that are often critical to patient care. If doctors and nurses are freed up from some of these tasks, it may be tempting for healthcare organizations to reduce staff and cut costs, which could ultimately have negative impacts on patient care and outcomes. Overall, Coiera's talk highlights the need for careful consideration and ethical oversight when it comes to the use of AI in healthcare. While AI has the potential to revolutionize medicine and improve outcomes for patients, it's important to consider the potential downsides and work to mitigate them as much as possible. By doing so, we can help to ensure that healthcare remains focused on providing the best possible care for patients, while also embracing the benefits that technology can offer.

  • @if3911
    @if3911 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doctors will have to become more human again - simple as that. And medical education and further education requirements could well be markedly shorter, since there'll be an always up to date AI adviser. We will still have doctors, but their role and the expectations of them will drastically change - and good on us if that comes to pass. Human interaction, communication, psychology, care, intuition will have to be things they will have to be more adept at than most currently seem to be unfortunately.

  • @davidecappelli9961
    @davidecappelli9961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I sincerely hope AI won’t replace anyone! People have the right to have a career, a well paid job etc…Sure AI-driven robots could replace people in dangerous tasks, but making people poor and unemployed would just make the world a sad place where nobody has money to buy anything…including high-tech AI phones, cars, whatever!

    • @nashonabo821
      @nashonabo821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only rights you have are listed in whatever doctrine your country holds and it's likely a job isn't in there

    • @nashonabo821
      @nashonabo821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Derone Cerrone no they aren't they misdiagnose all the time hence why they're in the top 5 causes of death

    • @axisepsilon514
      @axisepsilon514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why we need an universal basic income. Humanity will be way more prosperous than ever before.

    • @mahanpourfakhr2267
      @mahanpourfakhr2267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think that’s what they said when replacing factory workers

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I hope it does replace us in jobs
      finally no one has to sacrifice their dream because it didn't pay well

  • @tupierorosa723
    @tupierorosa723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I love how he's judging the future of AI by ignoring its potential and speed of growth.

  • @sayanpande9845
    @sayanpande9845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It will gonna take 100 years or more than 100 ...

    • @milli410
      @milli410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it will happen much before then 100.

    • @dudedude365
      @dudedude365 ปีที่แล้ว

      4-5 years, here you go...

    • @gpl3046
      @gpl3046 ปีที่แล้ว

      My guess is 20 years from now😊

    • @Aziz0938
      @Aziz0938 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao get off them pharmaceuticals already

    • @user-wp5tg4vr2j
      @user-wp5tg4vr2j 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dudedude365you are living in your fantasy world

  • @jmmwilson3
    @jmmwilson3 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pre generative AI

  • @user-em7tb9be6f
    @user-em7tb9be6f ปีที่แล้ว

    Good news.. now we have AI to reduce physician burnout as well.

    • @Aziz0938
      @Aziz0938 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't need them useless physicians

  • @averagestudent4358
    @averagestudent4358 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:57 😂😂

  • @darkknight1845
    @darkknight1845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Not only doctors lawyers,teachers,bank employee,police all will be wiped out by ai

    • @arjunchakrabarti9607
      @arjunchakrabarti9607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Will AI replace IAS officers too?? I think maybe AI will make better policies for the country than a dishonest IAS....🤔🤔

    • @darkknight1845
      @darkknight1845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@arjunchakrabarti9607 i dont think that ai will go to that extreme ie neither doctors nor any prominent profession will be affected..a technology invented by human cannot replace humans

    • @zachariahdushaj339
      @zachariahdushaj339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@darkknight1845 that is not a true statement you just made buddy.

    • @darkknight1845
      @darkknight1845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zachariahdushaj339 ok so if we go like that way thwn everybody will be jobless

    • @sayanpande9845
      @sayanpande9845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ai will replace human being lol...

  • @ilovebacon3686
    @ilovebacon3686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think human being always wanted to be part of something bigger than himself, this is how we can justify God and philosophy, the singularity will Come soon and this endless high AI brain will rules us all.

  • @annalia6003
    @annalia6003 ปีที่แล้ว

    No because AI cannot go to jail when it misdiagnosed someone 😂

    • @Aziz0938
      @Aziz0938 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As if doctors are going to jail

  • @KnitHappens
    @KnitHappens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Yeah, let the AI take over medicine. The behavior of doctors and medical staff these days is beyond robotic anyways.

    • @bonran
      @bonran 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to pay for concierge medicine.....💅🏻

    • @prabinshrestha888
      @prabinshrestha888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No...
      To be a medical assistant its not easy
      If AI came into existence we all will be unemployed

    • @veryconfused9768
      @veryconfused9768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We should have Ai doctors with human doctors so everyone can afford some type of medical help.Human doctors are too expensive and proud/too rich they look down on patients now and behave as if patients are beggars if we come to see them Nd they are free to say us anything whether we were in wrong or not.and it's so shortage of doctors in my country that even if abusive we have to go to that very doctor.

    • @jinxabyss1484
      @jinxabyss1484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@veryconfused9768 same same.
      Doctors now-a-days are looking down to patients as if we are those beggars and as if they are gods. And their probability of surgery failures+ Expensive
      I would go for ai.
      Besides the people who don't accept ai revolution might be the same who were once saying Netflix Facebook etc etc won't work.

    • @zerocool2727
      @zerocool2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @LABIB KAMAL why not ? the robot don't make a mistakes like the human do

  • @shadowplayz1803
    @shadowplayz1803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL

  • @tonylegge7261
    @tonylegge7261 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, that didn't age very well.... AI progress is so far ahead of this now and it's only 3rd quarter 2023.

  • @arjunchakrabarti9607
    @arjunchakrabarti9607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This guy should listen more to Elon Musk than doing his own calculations and by the way robots will be more trustworthy than doctors because they'll never make a mistake....

    • @Nirvana_Editz
      @Nirvana_Editz ปีที่แล้ว

      Will you fly in a pilotless plane ?

  • @zerocool2727
    @zerocool2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    we don't need doctors and nurse anymore

    • @adrian1622
      @adrian1622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      So if tomorrow you ll have a heart attack what would you do? Let Siri treat you?😂🤣🤣🤣
      Good luck with that

    • @adrian1622
      @adrian1622 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Goku Hey siri, i had a heart attack
      Can you repeat please?
      Im dying
      Im sad to hear that, but i don t have empathy so what s wrong with dying?

    • @wagie2death175
      @wagie2death175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @ENGINEERING WONDERS IN A MINUTE Robots can engineer better than humans

    • @alexrc9866
      @alexrc9866 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How old are you?

    • @jherwinmamawag3298
      @jherwinmamawag3298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ENGINEERING WONDERS IN A MINUTE 🅥 question, if AIs will learn algorithms for any jobs eg. doctors. does that mean it may acquire algorithm to code itself? just curious