I've been testing this for over an hour on a mastering session and it's a winner for me. It can change the tone & feel of a track without sounding like an effect, its the best tube emulation I've heard, its very musical and it's not harsh due to use of ADAA technology. I have other high end tube saturation, Kelvin, MH Character, Aroma & others all which sound great, but this is different, it just add that final bit of mojo.
Sounds quite literally nothing like a tube. cool that you like the sound on your masters, but i would question your real world experience with gear that has tubes on input and output stages if you would compare this to it. it sounds like a waveshaper being applied to something like pink noise and being enveloped followed by the input. envelope followers always sound a bit fake when you are trying to coax dynamics out of waveshapers as it is stateless other than changing the position on the transfer curve in relation to the input volume, but there's a couple of giveaways that there is no tube modelling going on here There's no sag or transient specific clipping when events stack up. if i play a kick and a snare together on a tube EQ and gainstage it pretty hot, the output comes out quite compacted and sloppy but not flat or just doubled up in terms of the processing. on this, there is just more saturation when you do that which is exactly what a waveshaper would do as it only sees the volume and nothing else To put it simply, this is probably just a novel way of implementing an exciter. has nothing to do with tubes
@@johndozesoph4136 thanks! I second that! This plugin seems to be their own (shitty) exciter algorithms packed in a fancy GUI with some envelope following!
I haven't seen any public mention of ADAA technology for this plugin by Izotope, and I myself was a beta testwr for this product and it was never directly stated to us either.
I got to play with this for a few months before it came out, and wrote two upcoming articles about it for iz’s learn blog, where I showed it off on an acoustic mix against the coloration of a hardware Manley varimu. The TDLR on this plugin for me is, it’s very effective for arriving at the soundstage/depth subtleties real tube gear can impart on a mix in the box-rather than the out and out slamming that many other plugin tube saturators do. While I am paid to write for iZotope, my opinions on this are my own: if I didn’t believe the plugin was good at what it does, I’d just keep my mouth shut.
It's an exciter. not sure where all these comparisons with tube coming from is confusing. it has more in common with the Aphex Aural Exciter than it does even the most basic of tube circuits. despite being maligned for years, everything you described is what exciters do, the reason they don't usually do it all that well as this though is because the phase shift creates too much of a contrast between the processing and the input so it ends up sounding like just another layer of sound. based on the 20 or so ms of latency i would assume this is linear phase which is why its able to give the perception of "depth"etc
@@johndozesoph4136This was very cathartic to read. I’ve used other exciters before and this plugin achieved what I believe those others attempted to do. I’m not sure exactly what Izotope is trying to market this as, but I think you’re correct about it essentially being a well-crafted exciter. It’s not a tube emulated saturator. I’m not sure where that is coming from either. Has Izotope claimed that themselves?
Cool plugin! I dialed in a setting I liked on my master and it sounded great. It made the chorus section larger than life without becoming too harsh and all the elements pop out in a very pleasant way. The issue I had was when the energy levels dropped in the intro or verse sections. I found the effect too pronounced, especially in sections with no bass. It would try too hard to excite the low mids, which made the vocals sound boxy. I think I will try automating the number and the cutoff frequencies for different sections of the track to have a more transparent effect.
It sounds better at certain moments than others. What it will need for wider commitment is the ability to do micro adjustments at certain time intervals where it doesn't exactly behave like you would want. Where it needs like 5-10 percent adjustment to get all the way there.
If you use it in a wrapper insert like Blue Cat’s Patchwork you can automate the mix knob to blend Plasma in and out by whatever percentage as needed. That would achieve what you’re looking for. But it would indeed be nice for Plasma to have its own mix knob pass through.
i like the idea of saturating the louder frequency areas and "smearing" them out, or saturating the sustain more than the transient and vice versa! cool plugin , thanks whiteC
GREAT cover of Sandstorm, by Darude. Little known fact, which brings this video full circle, the founder and ex CEO of Izotope, is actually Darude's mixing engineer. Hes the one behind the sound of Sandstorm.
I’ve been testing this plug for a while. Like a year now I think. It does do a thing that can be nice on certain material. It started out really subtle. It was basically a mastering tool but we asked for more and more control! And now it’s pretty cool on busses now. lol.
@@SomeoneCalledRob yeah. Idk why there isnt one. There was an original beta version called Electron and that seems to have minimal level change even when You crank it. Possibly has auto gain or something. But I was just Trying out the actual release of Plasma and that definitely doesn’t have auto gain. And I don’t see any output controls. It’s a feature that was overlooked or the auto gain was forgotten idk. I’ll ask.
Just do what's best for you! I personally like longer videos. But the most important thing is that it's 'chilled' and not rapid, cutting, influencer-style mimics.. so since you do none of these, it's still very pleasing to watch and listen. Keep up the good work!
"Do what's best for you" and then you proceed to demand limitations and requirements based on how you want him to produce his videos. You might want to reconsider how phrase what you wanna say before blurting it out.
I've used upward compression before... now we have upward saturation ha ha. I think the reason it doesn't support sidechaining it because it already works dynamically. A sidechain would negate or at least interfere with the built in dynamics.
Interesting idea, seems like you could just run a container in parallel in reaper, with a gate only letting the peaks through and then a saturator. Might get similar results.
I don’t think what you’re saying would be the same. also, I think you can do what you’re describing more smoothly and easily just by using waveshaping with the right transfer function.
I think it's pretty cool. What I would like is a 4 or 5 band control or 4-5 points on a curve (like Baby Operator) where I can shape the saturation more in different areas; automation for those as well. A selector for adaptive or static saturation. And of course an output control that is critically missing.
Sounds really great on master on my Bose Bluetooth speaker Adds energy and movement in the sound Needs to appropriate this kind of new plug-in but for now i’m kinda surprise (and sure … don’t hesitate to crank parameters …. Feel like there’s a gain compensation)
I'm really sorry to do this to everyone but i'm going to write a tirade/thesis on this BUT Let's keep in mind here that this is for TUBE saturation, in any case it's all subjective BUT there are interesting things happening right now as we try and make mixes jump out of phone speakers, or small bluetooth speakers (which are really being pushed right now for DJ's) I'd love if everyone referenced the track by Zedd - Codec. The saturation/distortion on the kick/clap/snare was likely added at the mastering stage but this is something the listener would refer to as "Tasty" *and in my case* triggers synesthesia (hence "tasty" saturation) is often found in FL studio's -default- plugins, which is often replicated. ANYHOW, last month everyone was raving about BLOOM, but it's too expensive for the average user, enter RIFT (this week) which will probably go $30 for Black Friday to add some nasty distortion/grit. Again, this is all case-dependant and purely subjective. I'm adding it to analogue synths while someone else might be trying to make guitars pop out of a mix. I'm certain, when used SPARINGLY that all of these tools are valuable BUT how many MF tools do we need and never end up using? We get that dopamine hit from getting a "deal" but honestly everyone....when will it be enough? This stuff is like legal drugs when the BEST in the game are likely using stock plugins with REALLY great songwriting and collaboration. The plugins they get for free just make music production a sustainable trade since they can say "oh yea i used a waves plugin here" *when it's a total lie* lol BUT they get paid to plug it in a video, so hey....I cant' blame you for trying to sustain a career.
It looks like a new page to saturation plugins .Does a very good job and it give a sweet and dynamic touch to the material compared with other good saturation plugins like spectre it has that dynamic movement and it is quite audible .. The profiles change the harmonics which are being saturated too so this thing is alive . Aliasing is below -100db range so no need to oversample it , but how can they miss an input and output knob ? All this Alien tech in here but doesn't have output knob wtf
These adaptive plugins are becoming the norm . It's sounds great with giving more body to the sound which is what saturation does of course . Being adaptive though like bloom you do not get harsh frequencies / static effect ( as they claim ) for the high frequencies when using it so I assume this works in that manner , not having harshness or certain issues that can come from a saturation plugin and being able to do certain frequencies similar to Saturn 2 it' pretty good . Also you might be able to push the saturation further with this vs a regular saturation plugin . It's a time saver for sure from what I see and very simple to use
I am thinking if you already have Neutron on each track and Ozone to master, you may not *need this but for certain tracks it does seem to add some nice sheen.
its a very cool plugin. gimmicky and limited, but it sounds great when it works. I would love a bit more tweakability from it, but overall its a great addition to the toolbox.
It causes the audio to have a "pumping" effect, which I don't think I like much. Besides I am smart enough to know how to use Melda MSaturatorMB, which, with a little bit of fiddling, can introduce saturation to the select frequencies you require. BTW, I like the house of iZotope very much.
If you have to strain your ears even slightly to hear if a plugin like this is doing anything to improve your overall sound, it probably isn't worth the extra weight it's adding to your processor.
yeah, sometimes I think that if I believe that the final feeling is equivalent to putting an equalizer, whose CPU consumption is almost zero, then anything be it eq, comp, dist, etc. whose CPU consumption, money invested or workflow is absurd then for me it is not worth it
I like the slightly longer vids ...TBH a mix is nice ... you don't always want to watch a 20 min vid, but sometimes you do you know. You can make shorter vids faster, but I also like to relax and watch something without having to change the video so soon, so sprinkling in some longer ones when it fits suits me!
When you combine Gullfoss or Bloom followed by Spectre on 100% wet you would basically have this plugin here. That said, you could use Spectre on 100% wet BEFORE Bloom and shape the pure harmonics dynamically, interesting!
@@paulmisty8998 negative i don't agree , plasma is totally different animal . having gulfos smoothing out the frequency befor spectre at 100 % is nothing else rather then having a dyn eq doing normal eqing befor spectre or any other saturation . plasma is not that easy to replicate
About transients... TB Equalizer Pro by Toneboosters killed the rest industry about a week ago or so, representing 482 filter shapes including Transients, Sustain, Sibilance, Sidechain and even Ambiance which is smth like a reverb 😜🤣
@@marksaxon_plays they are really outstanding and one of underestimated ones on the market, especially due to their prices. Wish you only the best in production 👍🏻
So you can eq our reverb on the vocal..wouldn't you EQ, and then add reverb on that track? Why do all of it then take it off when you can just duck the reverb. It's like master rebalance in ozone. They in no way killed the industry lol. "lemme fix what I just did with this EQ"
@@Illiyinmusic check out reviews on YT, you're here at least. Lol))) As I noticed, slight "reverberation" or reducing of it making your sound being closer to you occurs in spectrum domain rather than in all the signal when you add reverb as you said. And it occurs on ONE OF bands on your spectrum when you can add another bands with another types in the same instance of plugin. Yep, Master Rebalance can do that but for what price and latency amount? In case of Toneboosters it's €59 with announced "no latency" unlike $199.00 (Standart Edition) or $399.00 (Advanced Edition) iZotope Ozone 11 with unpredictable latency as it grows with each module basing on my experience with Neutron 4.
In short, better at this length. You covered the whole thing in 8mins and on point so , if the plugin suggests those kind of video lengths, then go for it. Cover what you believe is necessary and it will be good , (not all plugins are so simple though)
i feel like you shoud test out more of the Airwindows plugins in future videos on this channel. Like the consoles and Air plugins and so on.. super interesting 😊 i hope you will ☺️ Cheers!
@@werter260 Yes I put it on a 2 track master I did for a friend for the first time a week ago. The way it glues the low end to the overall mix and then opens everything up is amazing. I literally have popped it on default and at the end of my master chain slapped on Gulfoss for a final balance it sounds amazing.
Currently mixing a horror film soundtrack. Heavy guitar riffs, lots of processed synths. Think Rammstein on steroids. Now I have Smooth Operator in my head, I can't shake it off. Thank you for that.
I like the mix envelope that controls when the distortion comes in, gives it some tube sag but what's the point of it being spectral if we can't control it with more than just filters
Nice little review of the little plugin! 😅🤣🤘🏻 What is "short" for a YT video these days? For me, as long as it is not over 30-40 minutes, and the content is not just repeating the same things in different ways, it's all good! Thanks for your videos & points of view
I am thinking of a similar plugin but the name escaped my memory. It was basically a multiband multi effect with a threshold. Anything above the threshold got processed (including saturation) . Maybe I'll remember and post the name later.
yo wytse. how long can your mixing sessions be these days? i find i can’t go for more than a few hours til my ears hurt. wonder if that gets better over time.
With all these extra (mixbus) plug-ins I wonder where in the chain iZotope wants me to put this? Before the Ozone 11 plug-in, that will then undo or level-out some things this plug-in does? Well, you can't put it after Ozone 11, or will this just become an integrated part of a new Ozone 12 version? (That's my guess.)
IZotope knows their maths. I've got about 3/4rs of every good plugin humans ever made, and Ozone 11 Adv has a couple incredible processors used in moderation, while RX is just bonkers. This here sounds absolutely elegant, on headphones and through the stream I don't think this is any bit behind Tone Projects' Kelvin, Acustica Jam and Fabfilter Saturn.
with every new plugin they remove more and more knobs instead of giving the user more options with an actually good and easy to understand layout like fabfilter does
Hi, could you make a review of the plugin "Equalizer-Pro" by Toneboosters? It's a new eq, actually bringing convenient ways of separately eqing transient or sustain or room information and seems to work quite nicely. Interface is great, too. Might be interesting to hear your perspective :)
Gimmicky. Im pretty sure all it is is a gulfooss style auto EQ (which they already have in their product line) into a tube saturation stage (which they basically already have as well), followed by the deemphasis of the gulfoss. So an emphasis de emphasis powered by “auto eq” and they are calling it “spectral saturation”
yes, when you combine Gullfoss or Bloom followed by Spectre on 100% wet you would basically have this plugin here. That said, you could use Spectre on 100% wet BEFORE Bloom and shape the pure harmonics dynamically, interesting!
I don’t think this is correct. What this is more likely doing is calculating the EQ deficit (like gullfoss) and then increasing the saturation on a lower frequency band to fill it in. Tube saturation has a lot of 2nd order harmonic emphasis (one octave up) so for example if this plugin detects a deficit at 2k, it will saturate 1k enough to generate harmonics at 2k.
I wonder if it has something in common with the plasma distortion pedal I saw a few months ago in a guitarist video and wished someone would turn it into a plugin.
I'm curious what would happen if you put this up against the Fabfilter Saturn 2. As far as I know Saturn doesn't provide spectral distortion but I'm still curious if there's some 'backend' things happening with Fabfilter.
In their whole mastering suite thingy they have a saturation module, and it also comes as a separate plugin just called "saturate" when you buy that suite. It has a control that lets you retain details theough the distortion, and while it's not shockingly different, doing an A/B can be a huge improvement on some sounds.
I really don't mind how long the video is. I mostly want it to be the right length. No need for filler just to pad out the video length, at the same time it's nice if the video is as comprehensive as you feel is necessary.
I think the plugin reviews should just be as long as u need to show off what it can do and what u think, just like this video. Also, I think putting a shorter version of the rant/disclaimer at the end of ur last video, about not needing a million plugins, would help prevent ppl who are new to the space from having GAS; I know it definitely would have helped me when I first started out.
I recently made a vow not to buy another plug-in unless it actually did something new. Stick a dynamic compressor in front of your favorite saturation plug-in, and you've got this covered.
Yeah I was checking deals on their page, saw this, listened to the examples and just closed out. At least they didn't try to charge 199 for it or something crazy
But how does that change the actual amount of saturation applied, and not just whether or not a signal is saturated? If I wanted my mids saturated less than my bass, but still saturated, how would I accomplish that without routing my signal to two separate saturators and doing hella automation? I said this in another comment, but this is basically like saying u don't need a dynamic compressor because regular compressors exist and u can just automate tht, like sure, thts true, but only technically. Nd im not tryna convince u to buy a plugin u don't need, but just cuz it's not for u doesn't make it useless, far from it.
Ok, just tried it in the studio (Neumann 2.1 + Audeze headphones, well treated room), and it's less stellar than i imagined. i messed around with M/S and transient/sustain, and although it does what it says, probably the filters could've been better because it either darkened, made spiffy, or shrunk the soundstage of this master i put it on. Pass at the moment.
Costs 55 US$ or Euros and requires at least macOS Ventura (13.6.9) or macOS Sonoma (14.6.1) if you have a Mac. Still running 12.7.6 on M1 here - works fine with all my plugins. So I'm out for that Plasma thing.
You could try the demo and see if it works. It probably will. The supported OS's are just the ones that are tested, but it doesn't explicitly mean Plasma won't work on older operating systems
I think you should start from the production phase of the videos, even from the meetings before the idea is put forward. You should start your videos while the plugins are still in draft form. The longer the video, the more TH-cam income will increase anyway...Those who are curious about the program will go to the website and read it anyway, why are you doing this?? 💰💸🤑
Hard disagree. Saturators can very greatly. Kush's Omega 458A is practically my secret weapon at this point. Combined with some pre-EQ and the right compressors and settings and it gets you "that" sound. Nice thick, soft and balanced sounding where you can hear detail you couldn't hear before.
I agree. It's particularly hard to notice on youtube. On their product page the before and after feature showcases it well. Dynamic spectral saturation is still relatively new. I was hoping oeksound made this type of plugin eventually.
Some subtle saturation will make vocals cut through a mix without needing to be turned up or being EQ’d like crazy. It doesn’t need to sound noticeable, just needs to perform that task without thinning out or making a source sound harsh. Just my take!
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We need to start a drinking game every time a company releases a "new" saturator... LOL
You'd take a drink every couple of months...
I'm in 💪👍😅🤣
@@bnjmnwstmore like every 2 weeks
Well, this concept was done in another plugin? Im still thinking how to recreate it
I think we would all die from alcohol poisoning 😂
I love it when something polishes a mix... I can see my face in it when it plays
6:59 I don't mind longer videos as long as the plugin / topic is compelling enough.
For this saturator, I think the timing was just right.
I've been testing this for over an hour on a mastering session and it's a winner for me. It can change the tone & feel of a track without sounding like an effect, its the best tube emulation I've heard, its very musical and it's not harsh due to use of ADAA technology. I have other high end tube saturation, Kelvin, MH Character, Aroma & others all which sound great, but this is different, it just add that final bit of mojo.
Adaa technology? What else uses that and what makes it different?
Sounds quite literally nothing like a tube. cool that you like the sound on your masters, but i would question your real world experience with gear that has tubes on input and output stages if you would compare this to it. it sounds like a waveshaper being applied to something like pink noise and being enveloped followed by the input. envelope followers always sound a bit fake when you are trying to coax dynamics out of waveshapers as it is stateless other than changing the position on the transfer curve in relation to the input volume, but there's a couple of giveaways that there is no tube modelling going on here
There's no sag or transient specific clipping when events stack up. if i play a kick and a snare together on a tube EQ and gainstage it pretty hot, the output comes out quite compacted and sloppy but not flat or just doubled up in terms of the processing. on this, there is just more saturation when you do that which is exactly what a waveshaper would do as it only sees the volume and nothing else
To put it simply, this is probably just a novel way of implementing an exciter. has nothing to do with tubes
@@johndozesoph4136yeah. marketing bull...
@@johndozesoph4136 thanks! I second that! This plugin seems to be their own (shitty) exciter algorithms packed in a fancy GUI with some envelope following!
I haven't seen any public mention of ADAA technology for this plugin by Izotope, and I myself was a beta testwr for this product and it was never directly stated to us either.
I got to play with this for a few months before it came out, and wrote two upcoming articles about it for iz’s learn blog, where I showed it off on an acoustic mix against the coloration of a hardware Manley varimu.
The TDLR on this plugin for me is, it’s very effective for arriving at the soundstage/depth subtleties real tube gear can impart on a mix in the box-rather than the out and out slamming that many other plugin tube saturators do.
While I am paid to write for iZotope, my opinions on this are my own: if I didn’t believe the plugin was good at what it does, I’d just keep my mouth shut.
Nice! Looking forward to reading those articles
It's an exciter. not sure where all these comparisons with tube coming from is confusing. it has more in common with the Aphex Aural Exciter than it does even the most basic of tube circuits. despite being maligned for years, everything you described is what exciters do, the reason they don't usually do it all that well as this though is because the phase shift creates too much of a contrast between the processing and the input so it ends up sounding like just another layer of sound. based on the 20 or so ms of latency i would assume this is linear phase which is why its able to give the perception of "depth"etc
could you tell them to put a output gain knob bro.. like all this alien tech without output knob
@@johndozesoph4136This was very cathartic to read. I’ve used other exciters before and this plugin achieved what I believe those others attempted to do. I’m not sure exactly what Izotope is trying to market this as, but I think you’re correct about it essentially being a well-crafted exciter. It’s not a tube emulated saturator. I’m not sure where that is coming from either. Has Izotope claimed that themselves?
"Tubes saturatooor" 😂
what new nuance do we have today
I was slightly disappointed that even after switching on the Flux Capacitor - You didn't end up in 1955. :D
Maybe he went back in time and came back to that instant in time, so we couldn't perceive him ever being away ;)
I have it and I love it on the mixbus. It sounds a bit like an exciter but it has more than other exciters.
that dynamic touch is big difference . it already took my mixbus place too
Cool plugin! I dialed in a setting I liked on my master and it sounded great. It made the chorus section larger than life without becoming too harsh and all the elements pop out in a very pleasant way. The issue I had was when the energy levels dropped in the intro or verse sections. I found the effect too pronounced, especially in sections with no bass. It would try too hard to excite the low mids, which made the vocals sound boxy. I think I will try automating the number and the cutoff frequencies for different sections of the track to have a more transparent effect.
This is easily the best sounding Izotope plugin I've heard so far. I think it sounds great! 👍👍
i can't tell you how much i've appreciated your reviews over the years. Thanks for what you do. That's all.
It sounds better at certain moments than others. What it will need for wider commitment is the ability to do micro adjustments at certain time intervals where it doesn't exactly behave like you would want. Where it needs like 5-10 percent adjustment to get all the way there.
If you use it in a wrapper insert like Blue Cat’s Patchwork you can automate the mix knob to blend Plasma in and out by whatever percentage as needed.
That would achieve what you’re looking for. But it would indeed be nice for Plasma to have its own mix knob pass through.
@@DaveDemayClipsWhy use patchwork rather than the native mix knob on the mixbus?
i like the idea of saturating the louder frequency areas and "smearing" them out, or saturating the sustain more than the transient and vice versa! cool plugin , thanks whiteC
“Polished and professional” makes me want to go the other direction
Buddy, same. Give me “interesting” any day.
GREAT cover of Sandstorm, by Darude. Little known fact, which brings this video full circle, the founder and ex CEO of Izotope, is actually Darude's mixing engineer. Hes the one behind the sound of Sandstorm.
I’ve been testing this plug for a while. Like a year now I think. It does do a thing that can be nice on certain material. It started out really subtle. It was basically a mastering tool but we asked for more and more control! And now it’s pretty cool on busses now. lol.
Does it introduce high latency?😢
It sounds good but I'm surprised there's no output gain control - or is there?
@@mygoogle1525 approximately 1024 samples.
@@SomeoneCalledRob yeah. Idk why there isnt one. There was an original beta version called Electron and that seems to have minimal level change even when
You crank it. Possibly has auto gain or something. But I was just
Trying out the actual release of Plasma and that definitely doesn’t have auto gain. And I don’t see any output controls. It’s a feature that was overlooked or the auto gain was forgotten idk. I’ll ask.
@@davidasher22 Thanks. We'll see what happens. Maybe people won't need it.
Just do what's best for you! I personally like longer videos. But the most important thing is that it's 'chilled' and not rapid, cutting, influencer-style mimics.. so since you do none of these, it's still very pleasing to watch and listen. Keep up the good work!
"Do what's best for you" and then you proceed to demand limitations and requirements based on how you want him to produce his videos. You might want to reconsider how phrase what you wanna say before blurting it out.
Certainly gonna try it out. Thanks
I've used upward compression before... now we have upward saturation ha ha. I think the reason it doesn't support sidechaining it because it already works dynamically. A sidechain would negate or at least interfere with the built in dynamics.
it would just mean that the internal envelope follower is taken from the sidechain input
Interesting idea, seems like you could just run a container in parallel in reaper, with a gate only letting the peaks through and then a saturator. Might get similar results.
Yeah as always
You are right
I don’t think what you’re saying would be the same.
also, I think you can do what you’re describing more smoothly and easily just by using waveshaping with the right transfer function.
@@phladjki what is a transfer function?
I think it's pretty cool. What I would like is a 4 or 5 band control or 4-5 points on a curve (like Baby Operator) where I can shape the saturation more in different areas; automation for those as well. A selector for adaptive or static saturation. And of course an output control that is critically missing.
Sounds really great on master on my Bose Bluetooth speaker
Adds energy and movement in the sound
Needs to appropriate this kind of new plug-in but for now i’m kinda surprise (and sure … don’t hesitate to crank parameters …. Feel like there’s a gain compensation)
It also let me think like Gulfoss and Saturn got a baby 🤓
I'm really sorry to do this to everyone but i'm going to write a tirade/thesis on this BUT Let's keep in mind here that this is for TUBE saturation, in any case it's all subjective BUT there are interesting things happening right now as we try and make mixes jump out of phone speakers, or small bluetooth speakers (which are really being pushed right now for DJ's) I'd love if everyone referenced the track by Zedd - Codec. The saturation/distortion on the kick/clap/snare was likely added at the mastering stage but this is something the listener would refer to as "Tasty" *and in my case* triggers synesthesia (hence "tasty" saturation) is often found in FL studio's -default- plugins, which is often replicated. ANYHOW, last month everyone was raving about BLOOM, but it's too expensive for the average user, enter RIFT (this week) which will probably go $30 for Black Friday to add some nasty distortion/grit. Again, this is all case-dependant and purely subjective. I'm adding it to analogue synths while someone else might be trying to make guitars pop out of a mix. I'm certain, when used SPARINGLY that all of these tools are valuable BUT how many MF tools do we need and never end up using? We get that dopamine hit from getting a "deal" but honestly everyone....when will it be enough? This stuff is like legal drugs when the BEST in the game are likely using stock plugins with REALLY great songwriting and collaboration. The plugins they get for free just make music production a sustainable trade since they can say "oh yea i used a waves plugin here" *when it's a total lie* lol BUT they get paid to plug it in a video, so hey....I cant' blame you for trying to sustain a career.
0:15 "Tube Saturator" by Darude
Funny bro
Sounds really good in my opinion!
I will check it out...is there a demo available?
Sounds like great plug-in! Thanks
Sweet. Nice work !
It looks like a new page to saturation plugins .Does a very good job and it give a sweet and dynamic touch to the material compared with other good saturation plugins like spectre it has that dynamic movement and it is quite audible .. The profiles change the harmonics which are being saturated too so this thing is alive . Aliasing is below -100db range so no need to oversample it , but how can they miss an input and output knob ? All this Alien tech in here but doesn't have output knob wtf
wow! chromaglow and bloom had a baby? noice
and for less than $50. I was expecting a higher tag on it, thankfully I was wrong
These adaptive plugins are becoming the norm . It's sounds great with giving more body to the sound which is what saturation does of course . Being adaptive though like bloom you do not get harsh frequencies / static effect ( as they claim ) for the high frequencies when using it so I assume this works in that manner , not having harshness or certain issues that can come from a saturation plugin and being able to do certain frequencies similar to Saturn 2 it' pretty good . Also you might be able to push the saturation further with this vs a regular saturation plugin . It's a time saver for sure from what I see and very simple to use
I am thinking if you already have Neutron on each track and Ozone to master, you may not *need this but for certain tracks it does seem to add some nice sheen.
This is cool.. I like it.. you can def get something cooking!
Sounds great, and I like the shorter format 🙂
its a very cool plugin. gimmicky and limited, but it sounds great when it works. I would love a bit more tweakability from it, but overall its a great addition to the toolbox.
It causes the audio to have a "pumping" effect, which I don't think I like much. Besides I am smart enough to know how to use Melda MSaturatorMB, which, with a little bit of fiddling, can introduce saturation to the select frequencies you require. BTW, I like the house of iZotope very much.
finally someone who hears that! Such plugins tend to make every sound dull and lifeless.
Where do you think that pumping comes from? I have noticed it a little, but I don’t think it’s present enough to make the plugin completely useless.
@@supadead it’s because of the dynamic nonsense
@@paulmisty8998 which component of the plugin produces that?
@@supadead the iZotope logo
love the nails! 🩵
You need to test something with 80's acoustic drums.
If you have to strain your ears even slightly to hear if a plugin like this is doing anything to improve your overall sound, it probably isn't worth the extra weight it's adding to your processor.
Usually in mastering you make those kinda slight adjustments
yeah, sometimes I think that if I believe that the final feeling is equivalent to putting an equalizer, whose CPU consumption is almost zero, then anything be it eq, comp, dist, etc. whose CPU consumption, money invested or workflow is absurd then for me it is not worth it
bought it. thanks Whytse
I like the slightly longer vids ...TBH a mix is nice ... you don't always want to watch a 20 min vid, but sometimes you do you know. You can make shorter vids faster, but I also like to relax and watch something without having to change the video so soon, so sprinkling in some longer ones when it fits suits me!
I would love to see a video of you trying some sound design things, despite it's not your field, it can be funny and educative at the same time
When you combine Gullfoss or Bloom followed by Spectre on 100% wet you would basically have this plugin here. That said, you could use Spectre on 100% wet BEFORE Bloom and shape the pure harmonics dynamically, interesting!
are u sure ab that ? this thing only adds based on profiles ,while gulffos is made to balance the spectrum how can that be the same ?
@@solo943 the profiles are nothing but balancing/target eq curves, so yes, it's basically the same more or less
@@paulmisty8998 negative i don't agree , plasma is totally different animal . having gulfos smoothing out the frequency befor spectre at 100 % is nothing else rather then having a dyn eq doing normal eqing befor spectre or any other saturation . plasma is not that easy to replicate
About transients... TB Equalizer Pro by Toneboosters killed the rest industry about a week ago or so, representing 482 filter shapes including Transients, Sustain, Sibilance, Sidechain and even Ambiance which is smth like a reverb 😜🤣
Toneboosters is the sleeper company that keeps surprising me. I just got their multiband compressor (MBC) and it's pretty nice.
I fully support it.
@@marksaxon_plays they are really outstanding and one of underestimated ones on the market, especially due to their prices. Wish you only the best in production 👍🏻
So you can eq our reverb on the vocal..wouldn't you EQ, and then add reverb on that track? Why do all of it then take it off when you can just duck the reverb. It's like master rebalance in ozone. They in no way killed the industry lol. "lemme fix what I just did with this EQ"
@@Illiyinmusic check out reviews on YT, you're here at least. Lol))) As I noticed, slight "reverberation" or reducing of it making your sound being closer to you occurs in spectrum domain rather than in all the signal when you add reverb as you said. And it occurs on ONE OF bands on your spectrum when you can add another bands with another types in the same instance of plugin. Yep, Master Rebalance can do that but for what price and latency amount? In case of Toneboosters it's €59 with announced "no latency" unlike $199.00 (Standart Edition) or $399.00 (Advanced Edition) iZotope Ozone 11 with unpredictable latency as it grows with each module basing on my experience with Neutron 4.
In short, better at this length. You covered the whole thing in 8mins and on point so , if the plugin suggests those kind of video lengths, then go for it. Cover what you believe is necessary and it will be good , (not all plugins are so simple though)
id love a vid on the best real tube saturators out there..
i know the culture vulture and the blackbox but i figure there has to be so much more
i feel like you shoud test out more of the Airwindows plugins in future videos on this channel. Like the consoles and Air plugins and so on.. super interesting 😊 i hope you will ☺️
Cheers!
Indeed they are excellent… not pretty though so they are often overlooked just for that
I agree. ToTape7 is a godsend.
@@werter260 Yes I put it on a 2 track master I did for a friend for the first time a week ago. The way it glues the low end to the overall mix and then opens everything up is amazing. I literally have popped it on default and at the end of my master chain slapped on Gulfoss for a final balance it sounds amazing.
The alive feature in acoustica audio is the same thing but they model movement from actual analog gear.
If its dynamic then, will be great, something like Heat!!
Does It try to prevent aliasing? Oversampling?
Thumbs up just for the Sade remix x
Currently mixing a horror film soundtrack. Heavy guitar riffs, lots of processed synths. Think Rammstein on steroids. Now I have Smooth Operator in my head, I can't shake it off. Thank you for that.
interesting tool! short video is nice, but in general I prefer the longer ones :)
omg the sade tube saturator joke made my day. that's a joke only we can get! hahaha
I like the mix envelope that controls when the distortion comes in, gives it some tube sag but what's the point of it being spectral if we can't control it with more than just filters
Nice little review of the little plugin! 😅🤣🤘🏻
What is "short" for a YT video these days? For me, as long as it is not over 30-40 minutes, and the content is not just repeating the same things in different ways, it's all good!
Thanks for your videos & points of view
I am thinking of a similar plugin but the name escaped my memory. It was basically a multiband multi effect with a threshold. Anything above the threshold got processed (including saturation) . Maybe I'll remember and post the name later.
Maybe you're thinking of ShaperBox by Cableguys, and more precisely the DriveShaper module? Or maybe Multipass by Kilohearts?
yo wytse. how long can your mixing sessions be these days? i find i can’t go for more than a few hours til my ears hurt. wonder if that gets better over time.
With all these extra (mixbus) plug-ins I wonder where in the chain iZotope wants me to put this? Before the Ozone 11 plug-in, that will then undo or level-out some things this plug-in does? Well, you can't put it after Ozone 11, or will this just become an integrated part of a new Ozone 12 version? (That's my guess.)
IZotope knows their maths. I've got about 3/4rs of every good plugin humans ever made, and Ozone 11 Adv has a couple incredible processors used in moderation, while RX is just bonkers. This here sounds absolutely elegant, on headphones and through the stream I don't think this is any bit behind Tone Projects' Kelvin, Acustica Jam and Fabfilter Saturn.
to me, it sounds as shitty as all iZotope's exciter and saturator, or Stabilizer and Clarity. Instant vomit.
video length is fine but you could have thrown a greater variety of material through this interesting new plug
A+ plugin choice to cover
hi can you review a good stereo imager?
FF saturn 2 , Shaperbox 3 Drive module with envelope... all same or nealy same. plasma has some ease and may be better (easier) approach to it?
with every new plugin they remove more and more knobs instead of giving the user more options with an actually good and easy to understand layout like fabfilter does
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Hi, could you make a review of the plugin "Equalizer-Pro" by Toneboosters? It's a new eq, actually bringing convenient ways of separately eqing transient or sustain or room information and seems to work quite nicely. Interface is great, too. Might be interesting to hear your perspective :)
Is this something you use only on master bus ?
Nah, you can use it for like snares, kicks, bass, etc
this is basically just "fresh air" alternative...
Compare to Dist Tube Culture. That's the king right now.
Gimmicky.
Im pretty sure all it is is a gulfooss style auto EQ (which they already have in their product line) into a tube saturation stage (which they basically already have as well), followed by the deemphasis of the gulfoss. So an emphasis de emphasis powered by “auto eq” and they are calling it “spectral saturation”
yes, when you combine Gullfoss or Bloom followed by Spectre on 100% wet you would basically have this plugin here. That said, you could use Spectre on 100% wet BEFORE Bloom and shape the pure harmonics dynamically, interesting!
I don’t think this is correct.
What this is more likely doing is calculating the EQ deficit (like gullfoss) and then increasing the saturation on a lower frequency band to fill it in.
Tube saturation has a lot of 2nd order harmonic emphasis (one octave up) so for example if this plugin detects a deficit at 2k, it will saturate 1k enough to generate harmonics at 2k.
@@phladjki maybe, maybe not. sounds bad anyway
I wonder if it has something in common with the plasma distortion pedal I saw a few months ago in a guitarist video and wished someone would turn it into a plugin.
I saw this plugin and it reminded me I have Waves Vitamin.
How hard is it on the cpu ?
like the quick ones... not against the long one either though
I'm curious what would happen if you put this up against the Fabfilter Saturn 2. As far as I know Saturn doesn't provide spectral distortion but I'm still curious if there's some 'backend' things happening with Fabfilter.
Newfangled already has a spectral clipping/saturation plugin, but it doesn't operate in the same way.
What's it called?
In their whole mastering suite thingy they have a saturation module, and it also comes as a separate plugin just called "saturate" when you buy that suite. It has a control that lets you retain details theough the distortion, and while it's not shockingly different, doing an A/B can be a huge improvement on some sounds.
Make it longer, if the plugin or whatever you have is worth it.
Don't make videos longer than needed please. You are direct and to the point. 👍
The incompetent operator did a great smooth show !
Is that the JAWS theme tune on your t-shirt?
I really don't mind how long the video is. I mostly want it to be the right length. No need for filler just to pad out the video length, at the same time it's nice if the video is as comprehensive as you feel is necessary.
It's better than Spectre??
Saturn 2 essentially does this with envelope followers.
Smooth tube saturator operator
I think the plugin reviews should just be as long as u need to show off what it can do and what u think, just like this video. Also, I think putting a shorter version of the rant/disclaimer at the end of ur last video, about not needing a million plugins, would help prevent ppl who are new to the space from having GAS; I know it definitely would have helped me when I first started out.
I recently made a vow not to buy another plug-in unless it actually did something new. Stick a dynamic compressor in front of your favorite saturation plug-in, and you've got this covered.
Bingo! Thank you
How's that supposed to work? 🤣
Yeah I was checking deals on their page, saw this, listened to the examples and just closed out. At least they didn't try to charge 199 for it or something crazy
But how does that change the actual amount of saturation applied, and not just whether or not a signal is saturated? If I wanted my mids saturated less than my bass, but still saturated, how would I accomplish that without routing my signal to two separate saturators and doing hella automation? I said this in another comment, but this is basically like saying u don't need a dynamic compressor because regular compressors exist and u can just automate tht, like sure, thts true, but only technically. Nd im not tryna convince u to buy a plugin u don't need, but just cuz it's not for u doesn't make it useless, far from it.
This plugin reminds me of Denise Audio’s God Mode.
Good length pardon the analogy... Well done #izotope
I heard the idea for the flux saturator came to Izotope when they fell in the bathtub and bumped their head.
Do I have to watch before I respond with 'no'?
Kind of reminds me of Greg Wells Mix Centric.
This is pretty nice 👌🏾
Are there commonatities with The God Particle?
Ok, just tried it in the studio (Neumann 2.1 + Audeze headphones, well treated room), and it's less stellar than i imagined. i messed around with M/S and transient/sustain, and although it does what it says, probably the filters could've been better because it either darkened, made spiffy, or shrunk the soundstage of this master i put it on. Pass at the moment.
PLEASE Review that 670 500 series in that rack behind you!!!
So basically, they slapped ozone's clarity and exciter modules into one thing huh
Costs 55 US$ or Euros and requires at least macOS Ventura (13.6.9) or macOS Sonoma (14.6.1) if you have a Mac. Still running 12.7.6 on M1 here - works fine with all my plugins. So I'm out for that Plasma thing.
You could try the demo and see if it works. It probably will. The supported OS's are just the ones that are tested, but it doesn't explicitly mean Plasma won't work on older operating systems
So it’s like bloom?
This plugin seems to be a lot like Denise Audio’s God Mode?
Your vids are a amazing man .....
I think you should start from the production phase of the videos, even from the meetings before the idea is put forward. You should start your videos while the plugins are still in draft form. The longer the video, the more TH-cam income will increase anyway...Those who are curious about the program will go to the website and read it anyway, why are you doing this?? 💰💸🤑
Why is everybody going crazy over saturation nowadays? I can barely tell it's even been applied to a track unless it's cranked up to 11.
Hard disagree. Saturators can very greatly. Kush's Omega 458A is practically my secret weapon at this point. Combined with some pre-EQ and the right compressors and settings and it gets you "that" sound. Nice thick, soft and balanced sounding where you can hear detail you couldn't hear before.
I agree. It's particularly hard to notice on youtube. On their product page the before and after feature showcases it well. Dynamic spectral saturation is still relatively new. I was hoping oeksound made this type of plugin eventually.
Some subtle saturation will make vocals cut through a mix without needing to be turned up or being EQ’d like crazy. It doesn’t need to sound noticeable, just needs to perform that task without thinning out or making a source sound harsh. Just my take!
Sounds cool, and is relatively fast and easy to use so it's a great tool!
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