I think GML lights are the best in the game right now , i have the tarantula 730 torch, and it's a great light , i really want to jump on that master 6 bloom red , ive heard its a beast of a flower light , where you at GML , we're missing the Saturday night show
@@Justintime2grow🙌🏽 cuz I def knew G put the whole market on notice when he released the Voyager and Borg Evo at prices that were both well under the Raging Kush 2.0 Erik at LED Grow Lights Depot still had $1400 price tags on 2-3 months ago. Synce , HLG and some others better get their acts together from their products to their customer service aspects. Their whole industry is on notice. 🦾💯
I'm torn between getting 2x borg evolutions or 2x voyagers for a 5 x 10 foot area in an sealed room. I'm having a hard time understanding why I would pay $300 more per evo fixture. Could you please give me some insight..
In your honestly opininion, wich model did you suggest? Borg or Borg Evolution? Beacuse the price difference is huge, and, for example, if the Borg is only 2/3% more efficient than evolution i thing the second one is the best choice. Thanks!
The Borg is if money is no object. No expense spared, all top of the line. The Borg Evo is a more sane version of the Borg in my opinion. Still has LM301H as the main diodes, still has the 60 spectrums with the controller, still has 4 channels. Both have similar output and the same warranty. If you are the kind of person that buys the top of the line and you have the means to, go with the Borg. If you're looking for bang for the buck go with the Evo in my opinion.
Well it's not really something most people would run at full power. GML says the fixture CAN do it but realistically it's meant to be run at 700-800w of your tuned spectrum. But of course you can go higher if you want or do like you said and hang it high and blow it open if you can handle the heat of 1500w.
Yea true have stay wide open if got it hung high. And I hate doing that. Like I always buy bigger light for tent size so I can run at 60-70% try make light last longer. But like u said 5 year warranty even 60-70% less start loosening their mojo. Warranty that long u might be better off max this sucker out and it blows get new one under warranty. How much is your discount on these I actually posted on GML live yesterday about seeing this light on your channel telling them it’s straight 🔥
Need light on couldn’t hardly see what u we’re showing on logo. Man this light is awsome. GML is putting out 🔥!!! Your videos way better than uk 🇬🇧 guy
@@Justintime2grow nah that ain't no base model it was 1300$ when I won mine and it's a Fkn Beast of a Fixture 💯 I'm a EX HLG Sales Rep and know a Good Fixture I even Told GML that He Definitely lucked out when he Found the MFG that's doing those Folding Fixtures 💯 🤙 Best Craftsmanship on a Bar Fixture ive seen and I'm in Tulsa Oklahoma and Work @ a Facility plus have Family and Friends that Have and Work Facilities so I've seen a lotta LED Fixtures in the last 10yrs lol 😅😅 I've also Worked in California and Colorado for the Weed Industry...😜🤙😎
I actually have this light still in the box but I know it’s a beast! I just wish I would asked for a coupon code before I bought cuz the light and controller cost me a cool 1500 lol😅 but it’s definitely worth it!
Hey I snapped shot the manual when u held it up for us. Justin u see this light has 6500k -9000k evo’s I’ve never seen a light with LEDs in that range. Do you know the reason on that or could you reach out to them what is reason for LEDs that high. They find it produce prettier better buds a lot lights right now are dropping the 5000k and going to 3000k-3500k mix on their website on none their lights they never show that. When I saw that I was like wow.
Hi, The Evo Mint diodes have range of 7000 to 12000k. We've made our cool white channel 9000k because it gives our fixture a higher diversity for making spectrums. We can go as low as 1800k on our warm white channel with 660nm added. This fixture can adapt to any spectrum out there and ones that haven't been tested yet. Cheers
J2G? It should work. I'll check with them. If you message them or call them and tell them my code you'll get it if it doesn't work online. It's still valid. Maybe not during their black friday sale though.
No more than any other light that would run at 800 watts. I did said several times that it's made to run at 700-800w at your tuned spectrum. The point is you can tune it to what you want to run not run it at full blast 1500w. If you can't cool 800w in a 5x5 you have bigger problems.
@@grandmasterlevel I was running it at 800w for the heat test and it tested lower than just about anything I've ever tested as far as surface temps go. Definitely thermally well protected.
I just mentioned that people might want to run it lower to save the fixture life. Nothing will "burn out" but more heat always will lessen the life of electronics. 700-800w is usually about what is needed for a 5x5. But with a 5 year warranty they have you covered even if you want to run it full blast. Not sure why you would though at 2400 PAR in the middle. You'd be more likely to bake some pot brownies in there than to grow some pot. 😂😂
Oh I mean I totally agree with you guys 💯 I just Know Stupid is as Stupid does ya know lol 😆😭 but I do agree with y'all 😜🤙 And My Bloom 6 Red is the Best Fixture I Own Hands Down 💯 ... Out of 27 Units from probably 8-10 Companies lol 😅😅 🤙🤘👌📈🔥🏆😁
@@justinlinty Right? I'm always surprised by how much wattage they run and how cool the bars and driver box run compared to everything else I test. I know it's putting out the same heat as something as efficient but it does it more evenly it seems.
UV is best done in bars not as part of a larger fixture because nobody who puts UV puts enough and the life of a UV diode is shorter than the others. That's why you don't see UV as often in high end lights.
@@Palokushpahahaha. People are a trip. You proved Justin's point btw. RayonLed does the same thing that MedicGrow does with their spectrum x. They are Uv and FarRed on supplemental boards. As in the bars only contain those two wavelengths. Don't be blind and much love 🤙🏻💯
Best light on the market for the value!! GML is absolutely killing the game! Thank you for your awesome review!! could watch your videos all day
Long time fan really appreciate you man!
Thanks for hanging out!
Glad your back J we’ve been missing your reviews p.s Green Magic Gardening gave you a shout out the other day saying you had the best light reviews
That's awesome, thanks for letting me know!
Was talking with sparatangrown and getting either the voyager or the Evo kinda feeling the voyager with a added controller 😊❤
I think GML lights are the best in the game right now , i have the tarantula 730 torch, and it's a great light , i really want to jump on that master 6 bloom red , ive heard its a beast of a flower light , where you at GML , we're missing the Saturday night show
The best light on the market for your money W/ great customer service! Top shelf diodes as well!
Top of the line everything really, the build quality is top notch too. GML folders are bulletproof. (don't shoot them though). 😂😂
@@Justintime2grow🙌🏽 cuz I def knew G put the whole market on notice when he released the Voyager and Borg Evo at prices that were both well under the Raging Kush 2.0 Erik at LED Grow Lights Depot still had $1400 price tags on 2-3 months ago. Synce , HLG and some others better get their acts together from their products to their customer service aspects. Their whole industry is on notice. 🦾💯
Congratulations on the nice light!!!
Thanks, I have been blessed by the LED Gods.
You need to try a RayonLED light to compare. I think the top brands are GML and RayonLED.
trying to decide now... Which grandmaster did you decide to keep?
Will I better off getting the 240 volt over the 120?
I'm torn between getting 2x borg evolutions or 2x voyagers for a 5 x 10 foot area in an sealed room. I'm having a hard time understanding why I would pay $300 more per evo fixture. Could you please give me some insight..
There isn't a reason that I know of. The Borg Evo is probably the best bang for the buck light he's ever put out.
Don't forget discount code J2G. You'll save quite a bit on that order.
I'm running the Borg and Borg Evo. I only have room for 2 big lights as well.
@@Justintime2grow Let's see some of your flowers from these lights, please.
Thumbs up from France 🇫🇷 👍
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In your honestly opininion, wich model did you suggest? Borg or Borg Evolution? Beacuse the price difference is huge, and, for example, if the Borg is only 2/3% more efficient than evolution i thing the second one is the best choice. Thanks!
The Borg is if money is no object. No expense spared, all top of the line. The Borg Evo is a more sane version of the Borg in my opinion. Still has LM301H as the main diodes, still has the 60 spectrums with the controller, still has 4 channels. Both have similar output and the same warranty. If you are the kind of person that buys the top of the line and you have the means to, go with the Borg. If you're looking for bang for the buck go with the Evo in my opinion.
What are you using to measure the par and watts and red n ' blue meters please ?
Man that thing hitting 2500 in middle I like see it jacked up another foot or 2 see if get more balanced coverage.
Well it's not really something most people would run at full power. GML says the fixture CAN do it but realistically it's meant to be run at 700-800w of your tuned spectrum. But of course you can go higher if you want or do like you said and hang it high and blow it open if you can handle the heat of 1500w.
Yea true have stay wide open if got it hung high. And I hate doing that. Like I always buy bigger light for tent size so I can run at 60-70% try make light last longer. But like u said 5 year warranty even 60-70% less start loosening their mojo. Warranty that long u might be better off max this sucker out and it blows get new one under warranty. How much is your discount on these I actually posted on GML live yesterday about seeing this light on your channel telling them it’s straight 🔥
Would you recommend this or the 5x5 ultimate? Essentially it’s spec tuning vs most snug fit
I really really love this light and it has plenty of power for a 5x5.
Need light on couldn’t hardly see what u we’re showing on logo. Man this light is awsome. GML is putting out 🔥!!! Your videos way better than uk 🇬🇧 guy
The one who sounds like he needs a glass of water? 😂😂😂😂
My Bloom 6 Red is Such a Beast .... 💯
And that's their base model! Even their base is better than some companies flagship. 😂😂
@@Justintime2grow nah that ain't no base model it was 1300$ when I won mine and it's a Fkn Beast of a Fixture 💯 I'm a EX HLG Sales Rep and know a Good Fixture I even Told GML that He Definitely lucked out when he Found the MFG that's doing those Folding Fixtures 💯 🤙 Best Craftsmanship on a Bar Fixture ive seen and I'm in Tulsa Oklahoma and Work @ a Facility plus have Family and Friends that Have and Work Facilities so I've seen a lotta LED Fixtures in the last 10yrs lol 😅😅 I've also Worked in California and Colorado for the Weed Industry...😜🤙😎
@@Justintime2grow But yeah I get it ain't his Best Unit Either 😂😜
I actually have this light still in the box but I know it’s a beast! I just wish I would asked for a coupon code before I bought cuz the light and controller cost me a cool 1500 lol😅 but it’s definitely worth it!
Hey I snapped shot the manual when u held it up for us. Justin u see this light has 6500k -9000k evo’s I’ve never seen a light with LEDs in that range. Do you know the reason on that or could you reach out to them what is reason for LEDs that high. They find it produce prettier better buds a lot lights right now are dropping the 5000k and going to 3000k-3500k mix on their website on none their lights they never show that. When I saw that I was like wow.
Hi, The Evo Mint diodes have range of 7000 to 12000k. We've made our cool white channel 9000k because it gives our fixture a higher diversity for making spectrums. We can go as low as 1800k on our warm white channel with 660nm added. This fixture can adapt to any spectrum out there and ones that haven't been tested yet. Cheers
The borg is 2835 Canadian wow 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Just harvest under the tarantula Borg ran far red near end off flower best flower ever growen
Nice!
The code doesnt work for this light :(
J2G? It should work. I'll check with them. If you message them or call them and tell them my code you'll get it if it doesn't work online. It's still valid. Maybe not during their black friday sale though.
Should have done all channels at 50% or even spread across to get 750w and tested the ppfd
Seems like such a over kill on watts and ballast heat.
No more than any other light that would run at 800 watts. I did said several times that it's made to run at 700-800w at your tuned spectrum. The point is you can tune it to what you want to run not run it at full blast 1500w. If you can't cool 800w in a 5x5 you have bigger problems.
I feel like not capping the wattage is gonna have people Burning up there Fixtures Early IMO but Dope AF otherwise 😅🤙
It's totally safe to run around full wattage,
The fixture has 5600 diodes with over side heat sinks. At full power, it's not going to burn out anything.
@@grandmasterlevel I was running it at 800w for the heat test and it tested lower than just about anything I've ever tested as far as surface temps go. Definitely thermally well protected.
I just mentioned that people might want to run it lower to save the fixture life. Nothing will "burn out" but more heat always will lessen the life of electronics. 700-800w is usually about what is needed for a 5x5. But with a 5 year warranty they have you covered even if you want to run it full blast. Not sure why you would though at 2400 PAR in the middle. You'd be more likely to bake some pot brownies in there than to grow some pot. 😂😂
Oh I mean I totally agree with you guys 💯 I just Know Stupid is as Stupid does ya know lol 😆😭 but I do agree with y'all 😜🤙 And My Bloom 6 Red is the Best Fixture I Own Hands Down 💯 ... Out of 27 Units from probably 8-10 Companies lol 😅😅 🤙🤘👌📈🔥🏆😁
PEOPLE IN THE US WILL PAY THE IMPORT FEE ABOUT 90$
For about 5 more weeks and then our us warehouse will be open.
@@grandmasterlevelGood....
My discount code will take care of that and then some until they get their US warehouse up and running.
@@grandmasterlevel i got the light about two months ago, such a nice light, and it stays cooler than i expected by alot
@@justinlinty Right? I'm always surprised by how much wattage they run and how cool the bars and driver box run compared to everything else I test. I know it's putting out the same heat as something as efficient but it does it more evenly it seems.
Only thing it needed is some UV-B UV-A
UV is best done in bars not as part of a larger fixture because nobody who puts UV puts enough and the life of a UV diode is shorter than the others. That's why you don't see UV as often in high end lights.
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@@Justintime2growrayonled have about long time 🥱😂. The borg have great modular spectrum but horrible uniformity. Around double in center vs corner 😅.
@@Palokushpahahaha. People are a trip. You proved Justin's point btw.
RayonLed does the same thing that MedicGrow does with their spectrum x. They are Uv and FarRed on supplemental boards. As in the bars only contain those two wavelengths. Don't be blind and much love 🤙🏻💯
nothing yet evn close to be as good as gml borg but may be some better than the borg evo