Thank you for the beautiful checkpoints video Ryan I especially like how you gave credit to Steve Smith, greatbase Vic, Brayden, and all the other greats
I watch most uploads--many reinforce previous lessons and help tips become real technique improvements. PS: I whack my Topspin Pro (TSP) occasionally as I pass it in my house. It helps me keep my head down during and after contact (unlike hitting on court, the ball's not going anywhere) in addition to learning effectively to hit topspin. Head down with the TSP transfers well to hitting against a practice wall, especially when I'm about 40' away. Having that focus on the ball helps at net, no matter the grip. Mindfulness in tennis is underrated.
(1) The 1.5 and 2.5 volley grip system makes sense. The Continental grip just feels too weak to me on volleys. Continental grip now feels great on the serve (after much practice) but despite practice, the Continental grip has never developed on volleys; start out with Continental grip on ready position at net always revert to grip change on volleys. I actually switch to 1.0 and 3.0 (Eastern BH and Eastern FH for BH and FH volleys respectively, and believe Vic Braden said this was a viable option) and find this workable at low 3.5 but suspect the 1.5/2.5 will be better at strong 3.5 and low 4.0 levels... That said, at strong 3.5 and higher doubles, *one will often have to hit three or more bang-bang volleys at the net!...* It is true. Has happened to me hundreds of times. And most of the strong 4.0 doubles do it with single Continental grip. No grip change. It looks really smooth and graceful as they quickly switch from forehand to backhand bang-bang volleys at net with no grip change. But can't figure out how they do it without feeling weak in the grip.
As Ryan mentioned, to use a continental grip on the forehand volley, you just have to turn more. This is what all pros do and for me, I use to use the 2.5 for forehand volleys and 2.0 on backhands when I was a beginner but as I got to an advanced level, I use 2.0 for both sides. I just forced myself to learn the technique properly. I feel it's easier to do angle volleys and less confusing. I will take turning more over changing grips any day. Worst case being if after lunging for a forehand volley, then immediately have to do a backhand volley. You just don't have enough recovery time to switch grips. And your backhand volley would go out having too open of a racket face. Ryan says it probably 1 in 20 chance of happening for beginners but it's not the likelihood but the mentality that matters for me. I just want a simpler approach at the net. Grip changes are complexities that I don't need.
For the 6 steps of the forehand personally I think step 4 is the hardest one. Ryan didn’t go into detail of this step but a key thing that needs to be mentioned in this step is the racket lagging. As you bring the racket toward the ball, keep the wrist extended so that the racket head still lags behind while the buttcap leads the racket. Then you would choose the right time to bring the racket head forward using the rotation of your forearm to initiate the windshield wiper action at the ball. The timing here is so important. This is from my experience. I struggled with this step the most and spent a lot of time on it.
Ryan, kudos to you for making this video. As I said before, I use a Western grip and I agree with you, it's not a grip for beginners but there are many reasons to use it. As a result, my forehand stroke is much different than yours. I won't go into too much detail about this because I have discussed it in the past with you. The thing that I want to say is that your recommendation for the forehand volley, I really don't agree with. When I first learned the forehand volley, I put my knuckle in between 2 and 3. I switched to the continental on the backhand side. And this arrangement made the forehand volley comfortable and easier to control. Your eastern grip recommendation, I feel, is too extreme. And you are learning a technique that's too far from the conventional approach. When a player does get to an advanced level, they have to do too much retooling of the volley. Because a grip between 2 and 3, is not so much a difference that you couldn't easily transition to just 2. My philosophy is use a minimal amount of grips as you can easily get confused and be in the wrong grip. That's why one of the reasons I use the western grip on the forehand because it's the same grip as the eastern grip on the backhand. So basically, I only use just two fundamental grips, continental for all volleys, serves, overhead, squash, slice forehands and a western forehand for everything else.
And that’s ok. Some people love long videos. Some people love short videos. As someone who makes a ton of content I’ve learned I’ll always make half my viewers upset.
As this is a reference guide w 10 chapters, w clickable sections for each stroke of approx 4 mins each, this is a very useful video…plus Ryan has established by now a track record of clearly explaining concepts (and the “why” for a particular technical element and not just the “what/how” which I think is so instructive) and being respectful of the viewer by being concise and efficient - nice idea to put this out when courts are snowed over- thanks Ryan!
I would disagree with the racquet angle you showed for low down volleys, the edge needs to lead to get the ball to rise, that's physics. Your more vertical face only leads to a ball going straight into the net. I learnt my volley technique from Ken Roche, one of the best and his technique emphasised the leading edge out front was the way the racquet met the ball and he was only one step lower than Rod Laver. The vertical face has some uses but that isn't much help when your trying to volley a low income shot.
I find most incoming balls are best addressed by having the racquet in front at an angle which promotes putting the volley away at an angle, also by having the racquet so enables good reaction to the ball being aimed at your body too.
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wow thank you for the generous tip. I really appreciate you Mia!!!!!
i save every your video...i love it. thanks so much
Now that’s awesome. Thank you so much!!
Great instruction
Great review Ryan! This will become mandatory viewing for my team!!!!!
Wow thanks Carl!
Ryan’ has some good stuff
Thank you for the beautiful checkpoints video Ryan I especially like how you gave credit to Steve Smith, greatbase Vic, Brayden, and all the other greats
Demonstrating clearly and talking for almost an hour straight, respect! Thank you for your lessons, I learned a lot from your videos!
Great tennis video on the overhead!
Ryan, thank you very much!
I watch most uploads--many reinforce previous lessons and help tips become real technique improvements.
PS: I whack my Topspin Pro (TSP) occasionally as I pass it in my house. It helps me keep my head down during and after contact (unlike hitting on court, the ball's not going anywhere) in addition to learning effectively to hit topspin. Head down with the TSP transfers well to hitting against a practice wall, especially when I'm about 40' away.
Having that focus on the ball helps at net, no matter the grip. Mindfulness in tennis is underrated.
I love the video very much! it is very informative and clear and easy to learn. Thank you! Ryan!
Succinct summary of key points!
(1) The 1.5 and 2.5 volley grip system makes sense. The Continental grip just feels too weak to me on volleys. Continental grip now feels great on the serve (after much practice) but despite practice, the Continental grip has never developed on volleys; start out with Continental grip on ready position at net always revert to grip change on volleys. I actually switch to 1.0 and 3.0 (Eastern BH and Eastern FH for BH and FH volleys respectively, and believe Vic Braden said this was a viable option) and find this workable at low 3.5 but suspect the 1.5/2.5 will be better at strong 3.5 and low 4.0 levels... That said, at strong 3.5 and higher doubles, *one will often have to hit three or more bang-bang volleys at the net!...* It is true. Has happened to me hundreds of times. And most of the strong 4.0 doubles do it with single Continental grip. No grip change. It looks really smooth and graceful as they quickly switch from forehand to backhand bang-bang volleys at net with no grip change. But can't figure out how they do it without feeling weak in the grip.
As Ryan mentioned, to use a continental grip on the forehand volley, you just have to turn more. This is what all pros do and for me, I use to use the 2.5 for forehand volleys and 2.0 on backhands when I was a beginner but as I got to an advanced level, I use 2.0 for both sides. I just forced myself to learn the technique properly. I feel it's easier to do angle volleys and less confusing. I will take turning more over changing grips any day. Worst case being if after lunging for a forehand volley, then immediately have to do a backhand volley. You just don't have enough recovery time to switch grips. And your backhand volley would go out having too open of a racket face. Ryan says it probably 1 in 20 chance of happening for beginners but it's not the likelihood but the mentality that matters for me. I just want a simpler approach at the net. Grip changes are complexities that I don't need.
It depends too how early you learn the grips
thx for the video ! perfect ! :)
For the 6 steps of the forehand personally I think step 4 is the hardest one. Ryan didn’t go into detail of this step but a key thing that needs to be mentioned in this step is the racket lagging. As you bring the racket toward the ball, keep the wrist extended so that the racket head still lags behind while the buttcap leads the racket. Then you would choose the right time to bring the racket head forward using the rotation of your forearm to initiate the windshield wiper action at the ball. The timing here is so important. This is from my experience. I struggled with this step the most and spent a lot of time on it.
Superb summary to prepare for the New Year. Thanks Ryan👍🎾
Thanks so much Neil.
Love how he points out the elbow out in front
Ryan, kudos to you for making this video. As I said before, I use a Western grip and I agree with you, it's not a grip for beginners but there are many reasons to use it. As a result, my forehand stroke is much different than yours. I won't go into too much detail about this because I have discussed it in the past with you. The thing that I want to say is that your recommendation for the forehand volley, I really don't agree with. When I first learned the forehand volley, I put my knuckle in between 2 and 3. I switched to the continental on the backhand side. And this arrangement made the forehand volley comfortable and easier to control. Your eastern grip recommendation, I feel, is too extreme. And you are learning a technique that's too far from the conventional approach. When a player does get to an advanced level, they have to do too much retooling of the volley. Because a grip between 2 and 3, is not so much a difference that you couldn't easily transition to just 2. My philosophy is use a minimal amount of grips as you can easily get confused and be in the wrong grip. That's why one of the reasons I use the western grip on the forehand because it's the same grip as the eastern grip on the backhand. So basically, I only use just two fundamental grips, continental for all volleys, serves, overhead, squash, slice forehands and a western forehand for everything else.
I completely understand what you’re saying Wally. Thanks!!
I really appreciate your details videos, you are amazing.. greetings from The Netherlands
Hey thanks Alex! Really appreciate that!
Where I’m the Netherlands? Ryan is a great coach
Yes sir! What a Master Class 👏👏👏🎾
Hey thanks so much!!!
Hey Ryan, you should have a match against Ian at Essential Tennis. I think it would be a good match.
Haha I’d actually love that. He’s a good guy and I think it would be fun. Coin flip I think. Probably make for good TV.
You got this, Ryan!
wait , is this happening? i just came to youtube today to get Ryan’s topspin pro affiliate link.
@@uncledaveswildride haha awesome! Did you get it?!
I put my money on Ryan
Thanks for the helpful tips.
Maybe Djokovic could use a topspin pro while he's in the detention hotel before he's deported from Australia on Monday.
that guy DJOKOVIC is a nut case for sure! the guy has requested a tennis ct & better food to eat while he is at his resort ha ha
Maybe he’ll use my affiliate link!!!! Hahahaha
@@keleprat7828 He probably wants ball boys as well. After choking at the open, who knows what his mental state is.
Remember the name his two-minute tennis. Most people when they see something this long go to the next TH-cam
And that’s ok. Some people love long videos. Some people love short videos. As someone who makes a ton of content I’ve learned I’ll always make half my viewers upset.
As this is a reference guide w 10 chapters, w clickable sections for each stroke of approx 4 mins each, this is a very useful video…plus Ryan has established by now a track record of clearly explaining concepts (and the “why” for a particular technical element and not just the “what/how” which I think is so instructive) and being respectful of the viewer by being concise and efficient - nice idea to put this out when courts are snowed over- thanks Ryan!
I would disagree with the racquet angle you showed for low down volleys, the edge needs to lead to get the ball to rise, that's physics. Your more vertical face only leads to a ball going straight into the net. I learnt my volley technique from Ken Roche, one of the best and his technique emphasised the leading edge out front was the way the racquet met the ball and he was only one step lower than Rod Laver. The vertical face has some uses but that isn't much help when your trying to volley a low income shot.
I teach having an slight open racket face on the low volley. If the racket is vertical at contact of course it goes into the net. Thanks!!
I find most incoming balls are best addressed by having the racquet in front at an angle which promotes putting the volley away at an angle, also by having the racquet so enables good reaction to the ball being aimed at your body too.
Hey Ryan
I teach the vic Braden way at the tennis club I coach at. Love seeing people spread the knowledge. Where do you teach?
Commercial Break
Very necessary. Thanks for watching!!
Vic Braden hall of shame coach!
Huh? Why is that?
@@2MinuteTennis Tennis for dummies shoulda been his motto.
@@goggleboy2464 ahhhhh. Gotcha. Ok, have a good day!
Just copy the pros
What I taught is the backbone of what the pros do. Thanks!!
@@2MinuteTennis yes that's good
Most Pros go the net poorly but only to shake hands match end.
@@wx7yamaha haha very true
a commercial.
Not sure what you’re saying? What do you mean?
Очень много слов. А по делу - ноль.
Awful coaching
Thanks for watching Lee!