Definitely a part 2 Keith and Sam it was great content. More content like this Sam and Keith. Filming a prison whilst talking. We all love real prison stories 👍
Great work as always Sammo , good to see your working ethics have stood you well with released prisoners . As you say respect earns respect & those officers who are corrupt bullies will do well to pack it in , no one is untouchable I hope they realise that . A
I was in buckley hall, 2011-2014, running the groundwork/brickwork courses, sounds crazy but i loved my time there, just missed the kids and wife. The point is this, there is a lot to be said for learning those lads a skill they could carry forward and gain useful employment through.
That area is historic. Agecroft colliery used to employ a few thousand men in its heyday. There are tunnels underneath forrest bank about two thousand feet deep. These old mining tunnels meander all over the area, in fact some go near strangeways
Hello Sam and Keith, this was a really fascinating journey not only round the perimeter of HMP Forest Bank but a journey into both your experiences of this establishment and of HM Prison Service generally. Please could you do more "walk and talks" as they are so educational and thought provoking. Keith's comment about thinking what current prisoners at HMP Forest Bank were going through was a really thought provoking an reflective comment. All the best to you both and to every guest past, present and future (copyright infringement) as they all make this channel uniquely special. All the best and keep up the good work everyone!
hi Sam and Keith as with your previous video found this walk and talk to be really profound, sensitive and truly educational yourself and Keith really do provide a really important unique perspective its very important for us to gain greater understanding of the challenges faced by the prison environment thank you for everything you do for us as a community you really do help so many of us I would like to thank Keith for sharing his story with us I truly wish you both success and happiness in the future have a nice evening
Excellent vlog from you and Keith Sam. Scotland has Addiewell private prison and hardly a week goes past without something kicking off. They say they have a problem with phsycoactive drugs in the prison, no shit sherlock! Once again an informative and entertaining vlog. 👍
Great walk around Sam and insight into life in a really dangerous prison, some frightening stories mix with light hearted stuff,real good and informative from both sides of the cell door,will look forward to next helping guys,well done take care and I'll see theeee 👍
Thanks both for providing us with this fascinating incite into prison life. I'm recently new to your channel and enjoying it. The government should get feedback from you on how prison services can be run more efficiently. Im southern and note the word "tret /" treat 😊
Thanks for your time and insight like the way you give it straight some people might really know about what you’re talking about but you seem to nail it down sambo
2 screws per wing most days in the bank but when it went off you'll see a flood of officers rush on the wing within seconds madness in forest bank rough as houses in there
I did a cscs card in prison and a construction course,when I got out got told it wasn't valid because they ran out of funding it's a setup to fail, Manchester United all the way Keith 👍
My ex was a physiatrics nurse here from 2016-2017, she was the only nurse on a night shift at a wknd, Like you have said before on your channel it’s a business now in a private prison and is all About cuts not welfare for both staff and inmates
More from you two please very interesting and also funny in parts. I can't even imagine being put into a volatile environment like a prison it would scare me
Another class Vlog from you two guys. All profound stuff know that area like back of my hand, looking forwards to the Little Hulton Vlog told you before where I started my Policing career in 1976 !
Yes Sam more walk n talks maybe a few round the lower parts of the country maybe even the south west like Dartmoor Channings and Exeter etc Great vid really like watching these roll on Part 2
How do lads!! I’m 100% behind treat people like you’d want to be treated. I did 18 yrs in the police and I’m proud to say that if I’d locked someone up and I was working when they were released from custody, on release every single person I’d dealt with was polite, if they’d been a bit of a prick the night before they’d apologise before they left and believe it or not most people’s parting words were “thank you”. Being civil costs nothing. There are two types of “prisoner”, they’ll either be a “frequent flyer” and you know you’ll be locking them up again within the next fortnight in which case why be an arse with them and make next time you deal with them a nightmare or they’ll be a person where being locked up will be the worst day of their lives in which case do you really need to make their experience even worse by being an arse and acting like the big I am with them? I don’t think so. Another cracking interview, thanks both! ps Keith I like the hat 👍🏻😁 Kathy
that one stretch i did back in the nineties... i'd already gone straight which did not please gmp so that was me a straight goer with a five stretch up me arse. one of my biggest hang ups was thinking if i keep a straight goer the system will claim they rehabilitated me which of course they actually attempted the opposite. i was only twenty one at the time and one helluva angry young man and as You know full well not everyone in uniform is worth giving the time of day to. i lost over twelve moons in my first nine it was an irish 'terrorist' who pulled me to one side in full sutton that caused i to calm down and i will be forever grateful to him for that, pretty sure it was only a matter of time before i was back in the dock but more importantly having stood down on my personal war with the screws i learned there really is good and bad in every barrel, even some few wearing crowns on their uniforms. but point being, rehabilitation? yh right lmao... shame there aren't more like You Brother. anyway be well and be lucky, shout out to Kieth of course all the best to youse both, cheers 😊.
I was asked to provide a reference for my friends son to work as a prison officer in a private Nottinghamshire establishment. He had passed the first round of interviews with the recruiting agency and was being put forward. I refused to provide the reference because the lad was unable to count money, had special educational needs, had been unable to pass a test on a moped on the road, could not read and write properly and had been spoken to in the past for approaching young people after he’d finished his work as a doorman, wearing a high viz and impersonating a police officer. And yet this boy had passed the first round of interviews.
I was in brickwork for a good part of my working life. The amount of lads I've had on my gangs that got their tickets in prison and sorted their lives out thanks to courses they went on whilst inside was many. If it weren't for those courses they'd never have got on the trowel, on a decent wage and on a better path in life. If they've done away with those courses, then prison is 100% not about rehabilitation.
There was 2 female senior officers on f2 around 2004 who were good at their job but like you say..I would not want to see them cope with a kick off..keep the videos coming…
Corrupt officers wil turn there body cams off whn beating a prisoner- so these webcams shudnt be allowed to be turned off. Also as keith said- meaningful activity needs bringing back- but i guess the government wants the revolving door of money making ratha thn prisoners to be rehabilitated bk into society. Brilliant walk n talk lads , really enjoyed this x
I remember as a cop going to hollsey Bay to pick up prisoner . .soon as we arrived it kicked off ...certainly tested ones metal facing people who wanted to kill you...Happy days
I have been thinking about going for become a screw and forest bank is not far away from my town but it’s just not safe enough to go into without any sort of experience in this sector of society. I know a friend of mine that works there but she is not on a wing. Great video Sam. What advice would you give for someone considering a career in the prison industry
Great memories of working at Forest Bank, only because of the lads in there and my team (not a officer). But it was the most corrupt dangerous prison I worked in. The officers were awful and the treatment of the lads was horrendous.
I thought about mate,I'm a bit camera shy🤣🤣but what I'll try n do is get you in contact with a boy that managed to escape from bar-L,he's been on Sean Atwood's videos,give me a couplla hours n I'll get hold of him,✌️😎✌️
Alright Sam,giro productions said if you contact them they'll get it sorted for you ,this guy's got one helluva story,he'd be brilliant for a walk around barlinnie,he's been through a helluva time in Scottish jail's,ye might even get his young brother in the video✌️😎✌️
I was housed in this gaff early 2000s for the 4 moon , the so-called screws would take the same meals from the prisoners servery before the prisoners, every dinner and teatime at least 8 prisoners wouldn't get their food , I fronted the screws over this and they were saying its part of their contract, they can eat from the servery , prisoners were going without meals because of these screws ,is it still the same today
@RealPorridgePodcast they should feed all inmates before taking theirs ,we'd see the last 8 to a dozen opened up ,last in the servery que walking away without food over night ,no care or thought for the prisoner
i live near here sam .And my mate was in kirkham blackpool years ago they use to go out out at night to the offlicence whisky vodka and the prison officers wife owned the offlicence in kirkham. any one else know about this .And sam when i was in stadelheim munich they did English courses ,
Who would i contact now to ask for help on what happened to me in Thorpe arch remand Centre in westherby Yorkshire and 2 detention centres between 1973 and 1975 physical mental sycological
Private prisons are a contradiction, in public prisons the goal is to get you in, rehabilitate you and get you out.., private prisons have no wish to do either.., all they care about is are all cells full to capacity?
I grew up round there. I remember watching the nuclear towers being demolished before the prison was built. I lot of lads i grew up with ended up in there
All the problems listed relate to the general pop. All the problems listed relate to people being in Nick in the first place. Don’t get in there in the first place!
Sam when i was in Stadelheim Munich . I was neutral just MR English ,But the turks hated the greeks tha somalians hated the Nigerians the dutch liked everyone but they were stoned all day .Sam i watch a french thing called police Actioni. I put subtitles on it better than anything we have ,
mostly young kids they use as prison officers in there young girls especially if it went off they wouldent stand a chance of doing anything.. i was in there about 7 years ago with darren g i think he was finishing off his sentence am not to sure .wasent really that bad when i was in everybody got on well yeah its a shit place to be as i was leaving they just started netting the yards aswell
Definitely a part 2
Keith and Sam it was great content. More content like this Sam and Keith. Filming a prison whilst talking. We all love real prison stories 👍
Agree definitely 100% Would love a part 2
Thanks lovely take care❤️🙏
How Do Sam, and How Do Keith. Looking forward to watching this, I enjoyed the last one round Strangeways so much ❤
Very kind take care love🙏
Great work as always Sammo , good to see your working ethics have stood you well with released prisoners . As you say respect earns respect & those officers who are corrupt bullies will do well to pack it in , no one is untouchable I hope they realise that . A
Much appreciated dude👊
I was in buckley hall, 2011-2014, running the groundwork/brickwork courses, sounds crazy but i loved my time there, just missed the kids and wife.
The point is this, there is a lot to be said for learning those lads a skill they could carry forward and gain useful employment through.
Indeed dude! Take care❤️🙏
That area is historic. Agecroft colliery used to employ a few thousand men in its heyday. There are tunnels underneath forrest bank about two thousand feet deep. These old mining tunnels meander all over the area, in fact some go near strangeways
Thanks for that dude, take care
i know a man in the 1970s KEN WHITTLE use to run Agecroft .
Hello Sam and Keith, this was a really fascinating journey not only round the perimeter of HMP Forest Bank but a journey into both your experiences of this establishment and of HM Prison Service generally. Please could you do more "walk and talks" as they are so educational and thought provoking. Keith's comment about thinking what current prisoners at HMP Forest Bank were going through was a really thought provoking an reflective comment. All the best to you both and to every guest past, present and future (copyright infringement) as they all make this channel uniquely special. All the best and keep up the good work everyone!
Cheers dude much appreciated🙏👊🤟😎
hi Sam and Keith as with your previous video found this walk and talk to be really profound, sensitive and truly educational yourself and Keith really do provide a really important unique perspective its very important for us to gain greater understanding of the challenges faced by the prison environment thank you for everything you do for us as a community you really do help so many of us I would like to thank Keith for sharing his story with us I truly wish you both success and happiness in the future have a nice evening
Take care sam❤️🙏
@@RealPorridgePodcast same to you have a great weekend
Great walk and talk Sam and Keith. Would love to see more of these. So glad you didn’t get soaked this time xx
Lol soaked, take care lovely❤️🙏
Excellent vlog from you and Keith Sam.
Scotland has Addiewell private prison and hardly a week goes past without something kicking off.
They say they have a problem with phsycoactive drugs in the prison, no shit sherlock!
Once again an informative and entertaining vlog.
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How very kind dude🙏
Great walk around Sam and insight into life in a really dangerous prison, some frightening stories mix with light hearted stuff,real good and informative from both sides of the cell door,will look forward to next helping guys,well done take care and I'll see theeee 👍
Cheers dude🤟😎👊
Thanks both for providing us with this fascinating incite into prison life. I'm recently new to your channel and enjoying it. The government should get feedback from you on how prison services can be run more efficiently. Im southern and note the word "tret /" treat 😊
Tret indeed, welcome and cheers😎🤟
Thanks Sam/Keith for another great video. 👍 part 2 please. 🤞.
Cheers dude❤️🙏🤟😎👊
Thanks Sam and Keith, really informative so would like to see more if you can do them 👍🏻
Very kind take care🙏❤️
Thanks for your time and insight like the way you give it straight some people might really know about what you’re talking about but you seem to nail it down sambo
Thanks dude take care👊
Another good one Sam and thanks to Keith hope your wife and daughter are good Sam x
Thank u, take care❤️🙏
2 screws per wing most days in the bank but when it went off you'll see a flood of officers rush on the wing within seconds madness in forest bank rough as houses in there
blues brothers sam
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Thanks Sam and Keith, enjoyed this
Cheers sammy xxx
Just watching this video, the day after yet another death was reported.😢 Thank you for the insight, Sam and Keith.
So informative without sensationalising the reality. I’d not want my daughter to work there. Thanks for highlighting the problems. 😊
Take care x🙏
Brilliant Sam and Keith definitely a part 2
I like Keith,you did a chat before with him in car,could of sworn it was longer than 4 month ago though. Reminds me so much of Shaun Rider!❤❤
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Wow what an eye opener Sam,both of you have my respect. Great video
Cheers dude, take care🙏
Very interesting lads thanks
All the best dude👊🙏
Very interesting again thank you Sam And Keith
How do love x
I did a cscs card in prison and a construction course,when I got out got told it wasn't valid because they ran out of funding it's a setup to fail, Manchester United all the way Keith 👍
Take care dude all the best
Loved the line about the daft hat😂 great vlog guys 👍
Thanks lovely❤️🙏
Enjoyed that Sam👍👊
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My ex was a physiatrics nurse here from 2016-2017, she was the only nurse on a night shift at a wknd,
Like you have said before on your channel it’s a business now in a private prison and is all
About cuts not welfare for both staff and inmates
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Nice one dam you abd Keith wirk well together hope to see a part two and maybe a few other walk arounds peace out Hh
Cheers dude take care!
More from you two please very interesting and also funny in parts. I can't even imagine being put into a volatile environment like a prison it would scare me
Ta love take care
Another class Vlog from you two guys. All profound stuff know that area like back of my hand, looking forwards to the Little Hulton Vlog told you before where I started my Policing career in 1976 !
Cheers dude take care🙏
Yes Sam more walk n talks maybe a few round the lower parts of the country maybe even the south west like Dartmoor Channings and Exeter etc Great vid really like watching these roll on Part 2
Great idea dude take care👊🙏
Mr S. That is one dangerous prison spent 7 month in that gaff that is a seriously dangerous prison.
How do lads!! I’m 100% behind treat people like you’d want to be treated. I did 18 yrs in the police and I’m proud to say that if I’d locked someone up and I was working when they were released from custody, on release every single person I’d dealt with was polite, if they’d been a bit of a prick the night before they’d apologise before they left and believe it or not most people’s parting words were “thank you”. Being civil costs nothing. There are two types of “prisoner”, they’ll either be a “frequent flyer” and you know you’ll be locking them up again within the next fortnight in which case why be an arse with them and make next time you deal with them a nightmare or they’ll be a person where being locked up will be the worst day of their lives in which case do you really need to make their experience even worse by being an arse and acting like the big I am with them? I don’t think so.
Another cracking interview, thanks both! ps Keith I like the hat 👍🏻😁 Kathy
Bless ya love take care❤️🙏
that one stretch i did back in the nineties...
i'd already gone straight which did not please gmp so that was me a straight goer with a five stretch up me arse.
one of my biggest hang ups was thinking if i keep a straight goer the system will claim they rehabilitated me which of course they actually attempted the opposite.
i was only twenty one at the time and one helluva angry young man and as You know full well not everyone in uniform is worth giving the time of day to.
i lost over twelve moons in my first nine it was an irish 'terrorist' who pulled me to one side in full sutton that caused i to calm down and i will be forever grateful to him for that, pretty sure it was only a matter of time before i was back in the dock but more importantly having stood down on my personal war with the screws i learned there really is good and bad in every barrel, even some few wearing crowns on their uniforms.
but point being, rehabilitation? yh right lmao...
shame there aren't more like You Brother.
anyway be well and be lucky, shout out to Kieth of course all the best to youse both, cheers 😊.
All the very best dude, take care👊🙏
Round corner from mine forest bank. Been to the ways in 2013 never been back changed me for the better
👊😎🤟all the best dude
Nice you mentioned Oldham firstly 👍🏼😊👍🏼
Great Vid Sam,Let's see More of Keith.Good on Ya Guys!!
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Great informative video, Guys! And entertaining as well 🤣😂. Keith, lad, keep your stick on the ice. ❤🇨🇦
Hi lovely❤️❤️❤️🙏 xxx
Great watch especially with former inmate content
Brilliant 'Double Act' 😂
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Reminds me of Hindley Wigan in the 90s ruthless place back then
I was asked to provide a reference for my friends son to work as a prison officer in a private Nottinghamshire establishment. He had passed the first round of interviews with the recruiting agency and was being put forward. I refused to provide the reference because the lad was unable to count money, had special educational needs, had been unable to pass a test on a moped on the road, could not read and write properly and had been spoken to in the past for approaching young people after he’d finished his work as a doorman, wearing a high viz and impersonating a police officer.
And yet this boy had passed the first round of interviews.
I was in brickwork for a good part of my working life. The amount of lads I've had on my gangs that got their tickets in prison and sorted their lives out thanks to courses they went on whilst inside was many.
If it weren't for those courses they'd never have got on the trowel, on a decent wage and on a better path in life.
If they've done away with those courses, then prison is 100% not about rehabilitation.
Really enjoyed it.
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Peterborough prison has a path around it and is situated in a park you could walk around there
I know how you feel i have been on shifts with only 1 other male and over 600 angry detainees to deal with. It's not just the UK where this happening.
Sad state dude take care🙏
Brings back memories visiting my lad in forest Bank i hated going there.
Take care lovely❤️🙏
@@RealPorridgePodcast have a great weekend with your lovely family 👪 x ❤️
My gran and grandad are buried over the road not been back in over 20 years i was sat ontop of the valley when they blew up the power station
Bless dude❤️🙏
YOU WILL NEVER ERADICATE CRIME AND CORRUPTION UNTIL YOU ERADICATE THE CRIMINALS IN SUITS WITH BIG NOSES
Part 2 please . All the best to you both and your families . Knowledge is good xx Thanx guys xxxx
Nice dog whistle.
Part 2 please Sam 😊
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Peterborough is the same sadexo and they have the same problem with staff turning up for work.
Keep it coming please mate!
Cheers dude on it!
Quality as usual mate👍🏻
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There was 2 female senior officers on f2 around 2004 who were good at their job but like you say..I would not want to see them cope with a kick off..keep the videos coming…
God bless❤
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Brilliant video very insightful
My son in law said he remembered you at Forest Bank, and he is a handful 😮 he had a few stays there.
All the best dude, fond memories?😎🤟
Interesting stuff,
Cheers dude
Enjoyed that cheers 🍻
Cheers dude😎🤟
Like the dress code mate 👌🏴
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name and same, let the public get rid of the big man x
Corrupt officers wil turn there body cams off whn beating a prisoner- so these webcams shudnt be allowed to be turned off. Also as keith said- meaningful activity needs bringing back- but i guess the government wants the revolving door of money making ratha thn prisoners to be rehabilitated bk into society. Brilliant walk n talk lads , really enjoyed this x
❤️nic xx
MAN YOUR PROGRAM TRUTH, WERY GOOD. DID NOT NOW IT IS HERE.
forest bank is a joke worked there back in 2004 2005 , i can totally relate to your vid sam ,im very suprised that place hasn't gone off big time .
Bless love hope your good🙏
great vid really enjoyed it
teach people trades bricklaying p;umbing joinery etc would give people a way out
Agreed🙏👊
Big man bigger man 🤣👍
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well done keith
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I did 5 week there after being recalled. At the start of my sentence I was 3 months in Belmarsh. Forest Bank is twice as bad as Belmarsh.
We are going into the shrubbery and I've got shorts on 😮OO" How very dare you 😂
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I remember as a cop going to hollsey Bay to pick up prisoner . .soon as we arrived it kicked off ...certainly tested ones metal facing people who wanted to kill you...Happy days
🤟😎🙏take care dude
How do Sam, hope your well buddy.
How do dude, take care
Done a few spells in there, never had no trouble, seen a few lads go over on the spice there, but yeah, was a cushty jail like
I have been thinking about going for become a screw and forest bank is not far away from my town but it’s just not safe enough to go into without any sort of experience in this sector of society. I know a friend of mine that works there but she is not on a wing. Great video Sam. What advice would you give for someone considering a career in the prison industry
How do! For warned is being prepared dude, life experience is key dude, take care
Think again, choose another career path.
Fantastic, say no more 😊
Great memories of working at Forest Bank, only because of the lads in there and my team (not a officer).
But it was the most corrupt dangerous prison I worked in. The officers were awful and the treatment of the lads was horrendous.
Also know exactly who you mean, about the big lad
Indeed.
Take care love❤️🙏
Have you got any stories about the Gee Brothers? Darren and Danny?
Hotel business they dont want empty beds !! No intervention no changes full .
Indeed! Take care
Sammo if your ever up in Scotland give me a shout,I spent quite a few years in barlinnie, glenochil and the like,✌️😎✌️
Email me dude plz, lets do it!🙏🤟😎👊
I thought about mate,I'm a bit camera shy🤣🤣but what I'll try n do is get you in contact with a boy that managed to escape from bar-L,he's been on Sean Atwood's videos,give me a couplla hours n I'll get hold of him,✌️😎✌️
Alright Sam,giro productions said if you contact them they'll get it sorted for you ,this guy's got one helluva story,he'd be brilliant for a walk around barlinnie,he's been through a helluva time in Scottish jail's,ye might even get his young brother in the video✌️😎✌️
I was housed in this gaff early 2000s for the 4 moon , the so-called screws would take the same meals from the prisoners servery before the prisoners, every dinner and teatime at least 8 prisoners wouldn't get their food , I fronted the screws over this and they were saying its part of their contract, they can eat from the servery , prisoners were going without meals because of these screws ,is it still the same today
Im thinking so dude, you did used to get a meal sent however a greedy screw eats 3 fish! Boom. Its going off! Cheers dude take care
@RealPorridgePodcast they should feed all inmates before taking theirs ,we'd see the last 8 to a dozen opened up ,last in the servery que walking away without food over night ,no care or thought for the prisoner
i live near here sam .And my mate was in kirkham blackpool years ago they use to go out out at night to the offlicence whisky vodka and the prison officers wife owned the offlicence in kirkham. any one else know about this .And sam when i was in stadelheim munich they did English courses ,
😎🤟🍺cheers dude take care
Hi Sam thanks for that video, sounds awful in there!! Xx
Take care dude❤️🙏
Glad I don't work there anymore. Was horrific.
All the very best dude
Who would i contact now to ask for help on what happened to me in Thorpe arch remand Centre in westherby Yorkshire and 2 detention centres between 1973 and 1975 physical mental sycological
❤️🙏dude thats a tough gig drop me an email if you like? X
@@RealPorridgePodcast cheers for answering ill do that 👌🏴
Whatson and Woodhouse in Middlesbrough currently suing hmp Kirklevington abuses, get in touch.....
@@gdcodurham. Cheers for that mate ill check them out 👌🏴
I'll never been In prison...you know why?
Because I won't break the law enough to get me in. Good lad
They say prison never leaves you and that's from the people who work there!
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Indeed🙏👊
Them?
Whose Noel Staff?
Ever worked with - red bank ?
Private prisons are a contradiction, in public prisons the goal is to get you in, rehabilitate you and get you out.., private prisons have no wish to do either.., all they care about is are all cells full to capacity?
Sad state❤️🙏
Privatization of the prison system was what started the rot and the reduction in staff.
Fish on drinkwater . More than once seen packets going one the fence
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Brilliant Sam can't wait 4 part two 👏 Sam. Do you think the race wars will spread to the streets big up and respect mate
Who knows dude, take care🙏
I've only done 6 months and the like
I've seen bad bad screws ,this fella feels alright
Cheers dude take care
No way I know keath and iv just come out of their
I grew up round there. I remember watching the nuclear towers being demolished before the prison was built. I lot of lads i grew up with ended up in there
All the problems listed relate to the general pop. All the problems listed relate to people being in Nick in the first place. Don’t get in there in the first place!
Exactly, take care
Better view on google earth..massive place.
Indeed dude👊
How do Sam ,im just writing there is no rehab
Sadly true, take care👊🙏
Sam when i was in Stadelheim Munich . I was neutral just MR English ,But the turks hated the greeks tha somalians hated the Nigerians the dutch liked everyone but they were stoned all day .Sam i watch a french thing called police Actioni. I put subtitles on it better than anything we have ,
👊😎🤟take care dude
mostly young kids they use as prison officers in there young girls especially if it went off they wouldent stand a chance of doing anything.. i was in there about 7 years ago with darren g i think he was finishing off his sentence am not to sure .wasent really that bad when i was in everybody got on well yeah its a shit place to be as i was leaving they just started netting the yards aswell