They Said the Watch Market is DEAD Floating Face Down...

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  • @RomanSharf
    @RomanSharf  ปีที่แล้ว +59

    100 Numbered Tiffany blue t-shirts drop next week (🔔 subscribe for notification)
    P.S. What did you think about this episode?

    • @ingofreiherrvonwelz3477
      @ingofreiherrvonwelz3477 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you are one of the best players in the game, I am a pro chrono dealer from Germany, all the best for you and your team

    • @ingofreiherrvonwelz3477
      @ingofreiherrvonwelz3477 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will leave a chrono24 dealer recommendation for you / Chrono24 Dealer Star

    • @ingofreiherrvonwelz3477
      @ingofreiherrvonwelz3477 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you already got it, keep going big man

    • @TVMcaffee
      @TVMcaffee ปีที่แล้ว

      Another good episode and don't piss off Natalie

    • @Jim-lk6qn
      @Jim-lk6qn ปีที่แล้ว

      Love it!
      Viewer from Vienna :)

  • @Alex-yy8ng
    @Alex-yy8ng ปีที่แล้ว +195

    Gary is hilarious, he needs more screen time on Grey market.

    • @Atrociousnes
      @Atrociousnes ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's the rarity that makes his appearance more special

    • @sweatyjaguar
      @sweatyjaguar ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Easy on the calculator

    • @TheMic13
      @TheMic13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      diamond mafia

    • @Jacobsen1987
      @Jacobsen1987 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sweatyjaguarwhich episode was it?

  • @simranjitsembhi4011
    @simranjitsembhi4011 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Alex always being humble when it comes to his numbers. That's why he's my favorite person.

    • @sundeath23
      @sundeath23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Latino charlie brown

    • @yessdaily8896
      @yessdaily8896 ปีที่แล้ว

      guaranteed. Alex doesn't let it get to his head.

    • @chexcollects
      @chexcollects ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sundeath23😂😂😂😂

  • @misterzero8667
    @misterzero8667 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Everything great in the alternate universe that is LB ,sales up ,prices up profits huge yadayada

  • @momokill1
    @momokill1 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Gary and the jewelry business is really fascinating. More please!

  • @simranjitsembhi4011
    @simranjitsembhi4011 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Marco and his ego. He really needs to humble himself. He is knowledgable, no one can deny that but always acting like he's the best at everything has got to chill.

    • @ferealz7891
      @ferealz7891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed that lol

    • @omar10213245
      @omar10213245 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      what is he, 15 years old? when i was that age, i thought i knew everything, too.

    • @chexcollects
      @chexcollects ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omar10213245he’s a butterball lol

  • @Smood47
    @Smood47 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite part of LB vids is at 23:00 when everyone is just playing around and having fun.

  • @cocoyc495
    @cocoyc495 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You guys need to add "Pay More Than Retail" on your unauthorized dealer t- shirts. It doesn't have to be in huge fonts. Maybe on the sleeve somewhere or the back. It will be a huge hit with the fans!

  • @ReconMan772
    @ReconMan772 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the whole team , good stuff an I learn more about the stuff I like

  • @ensoreagles16
    @ensoreagles16 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Bring back the 40 min episodes 😢
    I know it’s hard to be consistent but we want to see deal! Negotiations & bts of LB. Maybe even sourcing of the watches. Either way love the show

    • @WarrenG-ke4zr
      @WarrenG-ke4zr ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha they don't want to show you sourcing watches because it'll expose how cheap they're really getting watches and how high they're marking them up to make up for the fact that the grey watch market is dropping faster than Bill Clinton's pants at an Arkansas farmhouse

  • @douglasslifkin4924
    @douglasslifkin4924 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice shout out to Juan over at Opusntime watches lol…

  • @OfficialSkankHunt42
    @OfficialSkankHunt42 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Poor Adrian his hair is non existent now😂

  • @arielhernandez2911
    @arielhernandez2911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmao Kevin funny as hell he said cheeese steaks 10 out of 10 and walks out haha 😂 . Damn Adrian on his shit killed it with the changes of straps for that watch

  • @tonyfoxley
    @tonyfoxley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Adrian, you are NOT a psycho. You are passionate, aficionados and scholar of horology.

  • @yessdaily8896
    @yessdaily8896 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing episode love the content

  • @11111mhmhmh
    @11111mhmhmh ปีที่แล้ว +18

    the watch market is dead, dealers are doing what they can to show that it isn't..but it is. data doesn't lie. also. you guys used to make weekly episodes when business was booming. then you stopped weekly and fired multiple people. so yes. the watch market is dead. but I understand you have a business to run.

    • @byrong1561
      @byrong1561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There wouldn't be a business to run if the watch market was dead.

    • @11111mhmhmh
      @11111mhmhmh ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@byrong1561 when I say dead, I don't mean no one is buying watches. dead as in those stupid prices that we saw for a while are not going to come back. people spent all their money, no one is rushing to pay 150k for a watch anymore. you can think people are, though. if someone has a 100k to invest, they are not looking into watches. watch business will always be around, this is a fact.

    • @byrong1561
      @byrong1561 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@11111mhmhmh Fair enough brother. I took what you said too literally.

    • @1988bctmk
      @1988bctmk ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean there’s a price dip? Dead is different than the end of overly inflated prices..

    • @billchan6180
      @billchan6180 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lollipop sucker channel watchers are still waiting for their watches

  • @ryanjofre
    @ryanjofre ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I only payed 9k for my pristine 2013 used Yacht master(box/papers everything) with sand blasted platinum dial. Love the team, miss the people who have left!
    $2500 for a two-tone Tudor..🤣🤣.
    Bring back Chris and Nick!

    • @AJ-bi6ns
      @AJ-bi6ns ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not worth trading in a Tudor

    • @MrMatteo83
      @MrMatteo83 ปีที่แล้ว

      This guy wants to buy wholesale price and sell retail.

    • @WarrenG-ke4zr
      @WarrenG-ke4zr ปีที่แล้ว

      Tudors are for bums, Tudor customers know it too. In the back of their minds when they look at their Tudor on their wrists they wish it was a Rolex

    • @AJ-bi6ns
      @AJ-bi6ns ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WarrenG-ke4zr Simply untrue, Tudor makes some nice pieces. I bought my first Tudor after buying several Rolex references. There is a place in a watch box for both brands

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AJ-bi6ns Lots of people that can afford anything buy Tudor because Tudor is outstanding just like lots of multi millionaires buy Citizen and Seiko because both of the
      Later(with their small Issues like every company) are fantastic.
      I wore my Girard Perregaux on Friday/Saturday, I wore my new Yacht-master on Sun/Mon and I’m wearing my Seiko 5 cement dial today! On Thursday I’ll be wearing a Citizen.

  • @thereissomecoolstuff
    @thereissomecoolstuff ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Gary is right. Marco needs to be more humble. Alex is a team player. Favorite is Anna by a mile. Adrian a close second because he looks more like his dad everyday.

    • @ferealz7891
      @ferealz7891 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex is solid 👌

    • @soothingmoments2139
      @soothingmoments2139 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anna is going fav? Anna has in one video tells Alex to quit just because he was new and unfamiliar with the payment system..

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soothingmoments2139 Anna has been in a bunch of videos. What are you talking about. Alex should quit. Take Kevin’s old job at T-mobile.

  • @latemnf
    @latemnf ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dave was very impressive in his presentation. The man has the passion there's no doubt about that.

  • @392Joel
    @392Joel ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If the watch market isn’t dead right now why fire so many employees

  • @WarrenG-ke4zr
    @WarrenG-ke4zr ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The secondary grey market is dropping faster than Bill Clinton's pants at an Arkansas farmhouse

  • @greatestever2458
    @greatestever2458 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yall fired machine gun chris and vintage nick for conceited marco smh.....

  • @zendm4436
    @zendm4436 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love episodes like this, candid back and forth near the end of the video was really entertaining

  • @ae1586
    @ae1586 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When does coach , aka Tugger , aka Anthony farrer start with luxury bazar ? I heard the news and I’m excited to see him getting a second chance with you Guys !

    • @migooknamja
      @migooknamja ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is everyone calling him Tugger? I don't get it

  • @NP-yi5vk
    @NP-yi5vk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was hilarious. “Shabe your beard Marco makes your face look fat”😊

  • @gregs8685
    @gregs8685 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trolling Juan?! C’mon Deputy Droopy Eyes! Unbelievable but true.

  • @NYman472
    @NYman472 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this episode. Keep them coming!

  • @Kirky2369
    @Kirky2369 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where is the next video. 13 days and counting?

  • @darkalex3254
    @darkalex3254 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Great direction the videos series is going, giving more a traditional old school Vibe of Grey Market like the couple first seasons , Great work LB !

    • @BourbonInhibitions
      @BourbonInhibitions ปีที่แล้ว

      You couldn't be more wrong. There is literally no reason to watch this show anymore lol. I was an OG sub since season 1 of GM and I unsubbed in the spring. Came back today to watch my first episode since and was affirmed again that it was the right decision to leave. Just a bunch of hype bros on the channel now that only feature AP and cliche Rolexes. Boring as hell.

  • @easyyeye
    @easyyeye 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:38 he’s a cool dude for bein so honest

  • @SybenCarree
    @SybenCarree ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Not enough people talking about Kevin. Guy is very genuine and has impeccable customer service. Loved watching him deal with the client wanting the Rolex Yachtmaster that way.

    • @kasolist
      @kasolist ปีที่แล้ว +2

      cant stand his "Bro Slang"!

  • @jjl499
    @jjl499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Adrian “a man needs to pay his debts, not spoken for anyone here” had to be talking about ANTHONY FARRER lmao

  • @MrAleB305
    @MrAleB305 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LMAOO at the title, if you know you know.

  • @zm6658
    @zm6658 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gary going off about the earrings and the music in the background has me rolling

  • @Potsnu
    @Potsnu ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Am I the only one who doesn't like Marco?

  • @markgiles8527
    @markgiles8527 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The watch market is the modern day equivalent of Tulip Mania.😅

    • @supportdesk7703
      @supportdesk7703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly and we all know how that ended..

  • @dielalex89
    @dielalex89 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love the show! Awesome crew, I would love to come visit everyone and hang out/meet yall

  • @Deabeatdad
    @Deabeatdad ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Adrian's hair is an alibaba special

  • @ramonsalas6583
    @ramonsalas6583 ปีที่แล้ว

    All of you are awesome but alex my favorite on here. Humble period of young man 👍🏽

  • @jebisamess1902
    @jebisamess1902 ปีที่แล้ว

    why did you cut the Speedy sale? Was looking forward to that. Looks great on his wrist. More interesting than a yacht master that's for sure!

  • @giuseppelamartina4934
    @giuseppelamartina4934 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2500 for the Tudor 2 tones 39mm or 41mm, it’s definitely pretty low 😢

    • @MrMatteo83
      @MrMatteo83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's wholesale not retail. Tudors also don't hold value like Rolex. It's also old.

  • @babykuttthroat3410
    @babykuttthroat3410 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Easy on the calculator” is TOOO FYEEEE😂🔥🔥oh yeah ima need 1, if that’s your merch I’m on it. 😮‍💨

  • @d00rs71
    @d00rs71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most watches don’t gain value they depreciate it’s a tuff business.

  • @easyyeye
    @easyyeye 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:52 lmaoo Matt literally sitting with the edit software open

  • @sjonny-depp
    @sjonny-depp ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's wrong with Tissot, Oris or Nomos... you are talking like it's nothing...? Not everyone can afford a Rolex, Patek etc. This is not the first time I caught you making fun of those watches. This is not cool man.

  • @waaadepnguyen6068
    @waaadepnguyen6068 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmfao @ Adrian roasting he’s father Gary 😂

  • @LA-rl1lu
    @LA-rl1lu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @20:06 Adrian, how do you still have a Commerce Bank pen? They were bought by TD ages ago.

  • @emberkedves6330
    @emberkedves6330 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best channel on YT!

  • @gh8066
    @gh8066 ปีที่แล้ว

    ahhh kevin is such a joy to have on a show like this

  • @pulsarfever
    @pulsarfever ปีที่แล้ว

    "If you are a good buyer....you are a good seller "......spot on Adrian....

  • @HDMScorp
    @HDMScorp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Legend has it those hand claps are still reverberating through the universe 😂

  • @benitodelrosario6336
    @benitodelrosario6336 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best episode. Just bs’ing in the office.

  • @Timekeeper624
    @Timekeeper624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm nearly certain I'm going to watch one of these episodes in the near future and hear Mike Rowe doing the voice over.

  • @scottallan3327
    @scottallan3327 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think it would be interesting if you did a day in the life of all your sales people and buyers, it would be kind of a get-to-know-you thing. Just my opinion

    • @ae1586
      @ae1586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially now that Anthony farrer (the timepiece gentleman) will
      Be starting with them this week !

  • @BVBSEAN
    @BVBSEAN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gary is #1 character

  • @arielhernandez2911
    @arielhernandez2911 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao the music when og jeweler talks haha

  • @steveaarons4751
    @steveaarons4751 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, I loved this episode... content blah blah..... this reminds me of when u guys started. Stripped back...

  • @horat52
    @horat52 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bla bla bla bla and zero sales in this video. The best proof that the watch market indeed is dead.

  • @alschmidt8963
    @alschmidt8963 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Watching Dave close up selling watches is awesome.

    • @morris4morris
      @morris4morris ปีที่แล้ว +6

      except that he says "right" 16 times. The "you knows" have improved...only 5.

  • @dannyfromna
    @dannyfromna ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of the best episodes yet! The LB gang chopping it up in Adrian’s office. This is the content we want to see. Keep it up!!!

  • @Alexpress81
    @Alexpress81 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Juan did strike a nerve I see

    • @omar10213245
      @omar10213245 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol you just know that they must hate Juan's guts with the heat of a thousand suns

  • @EshathMiah
    @EshathMiah ปีที่แล้ว

    Gary is the best character 💯😂

  • @alenbhaii
    @alenbhaii ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This episode was 🔥 just like how I enjoyed in 2021

  • @DisregardThisComment
    @DisregardThisComment ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got the call. No history. Not a super popular watch tho.James Cameron. Grey market def going to take a hit on Rolex.

  • @martinlepik4450
    @martinlepik4450 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite character on Grey Market is Marco, followed closely by Gary

  • @vicentepelovello9072
    @vicentepelovello9072 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your site? So I can order my first watch! Do you have sale watch so I can chooose from patek phillipe, audemar piguet, Rolex!

  • @brianwca
    @brianwca ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, Gary needs to do Shorts. Possibly my fave.

  • @seantay7477
    @seantay7477 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hypebeast clothes and shoes, tattoo sleeves, bro slang. kevin is the peak of luxury. adrian too, always walking around with airpods. don't customers love it when these grey dealers wear the products and sell them "brand new". just like tugging tony lmao

  • @danc4007
    @danc4007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Boss Babies true cockiness shines in this video! 👶 Wow! LOL

  • @bigdaddy7415
    @bigdaddy7415 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy smokes Dave can talk so much lol drink a shot every time he says the word RIGHT... you will be dead..I think the customer even slipped in his own reply to right with right...lol

    • @nielsdekker5191
      @nielsdekker5191 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I find his way of selling obnoxious. Too much talking, little listening, the 'I like you' to the customer seems fake to me.
      It does sell for sure!

    • @byrong1561
      @byrong1561 ปีที่แล้ว

      Customers always have a 'right' to reply

  • @vforvictor7575
    @vforvictor7575 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You just know when sales guys fill you full of BS, is it really necessary

  • @ryanjofre
    @ryanjofre ปีที่แล้ว

    TSGWMID…floating face down in a pool in the backyard. Unboileevable but true!!!
    Just kidding🤣🤣🤣

  • @yurdme710
    @yurdme710 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The dynamic with the sales team is great lmao. Alex the OG tho

  • @ChrisBoulas
    @ChrisBoulas ปีที่แล้ว

    19:51 shots fired.

  • @jamessalerno9220
    @jamessalerno9220 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gary Gary Gary! Need Gary and a client interaction lol. I feel like we need to also let him loose in a social/bar atmosphere.

  • @Hanna_just_bananass
    @Hanna_just_bananass ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are Nick & Alex?? Are they still there??

  • @Franzburg
    @Franzburg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ana 1 Kevin 2 Gary 3

  • @douglasdollars
    @douglasdollars ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I usually get 1-2 watches a year but got three this summer (not at this level). It's definitely been a season of buying heat.

    • @ryanjofre
      @ryanjofre ปีที่แล้ว

      what did you buy? I bought a 2013 Yacht master, a Seiko Srpg61 & a Tissot III black dial this year.

  • @edinburgh2007
    @edinburgh2007 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    19:50 "man needs to pay his debts, talking to no one specifically out there" lol Adrian is funny af

    • @Omnibots710
      @Omnibots710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂 had me dying. 4.9m to go

  • @CrosswaIk
    @CrosswaIk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've sold over 3 watches. So 4?

  • @brandonlueth3400
    @brandonlueth3400 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dave has such an eloquent sales tactic, I’d buy oxygen from him

  • @justinharris9771
    @justinharris9771 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gary is by far the best character. Haha. Loving you guys talking under 2000 watches casually. Alex is the OG though. The clarity is unreal compared to the old school vids. Great work.

  • @peterpaidnyc
    @peterpaidnyc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The BEST episode on a LONG time!!!! Loved it!!!

  • @Jlamantia
    @Jlamantia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These guys giving financial advice is hilarious. Watches are not a good place to stock your money actually. With the exception of a few watches 98 percent are widely available. If you want to lose your ass buy a bunch of batmans and hulks and you will love seeing your money dissapear

  • @chucknowakowski6676
    @chucknowakowski6676 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the “Russian” music every time Gary speaks……..funny touch……

  • @mylife2162
    @mylife2162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the new revamp of employees, I cant believe they kept the blond chick? No sales skills, no phone skills and appears she couldnt close a paper bag!!

  • @andrewsnow2491
    @andrewsnow2491 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think these Swiss watch manufacturers make beautiful watches, go take a look at how stylish their new factories are in Plan les Ouates. Even the factories are breath taking.

  • @MegaKingTom
    @MegaKingTom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely didn’t like the addition of Marco from the beginning. Seen a few videos of him on his own and didn’t like how he thinks. Fool knows everything

    • @byrong1561
      @byrong1561 ปีที่แล้ว

      How can he be a fool if he knows everything? . That's an oxymoron and so are you... without the oxy bit.

    • @MegaKingTom
      @MegaKingTom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@byrong1561 meaning he thinks he knows everything

  • @AjCxOfficial
    @AjCxOfficial ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Gary 😂 he’s a legend

  • @petermorello1051
    @petermorello1051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marco is undoubtedly the most unlikable person in the world!!

  • @keyboardcommando7493
    @keyboardcommando7493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's worse, used car or used watch salesman?

    • @migooknamja
      @migooknamja ปีที่แล้ว

      A car does something. It provides transportation. It has heat/ac/wipers, a trunk, Bluetooth; adjustable seats.
      Watches tell time.

  • @lightsequilla6938
    @lightsequilla6938 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I haven't kept up with all the episodes of Grey Market (I will), but. Where is Sabina? Did she leave?

    • @migooknamja
      @migooknamja ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont think she sold a single thing

  • @Poise716
    @Poise716 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dead a** this was a hilarious episode man

  • @johnflynn6140
    @johnflynn6140 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would be keeping the Tudor black bay 41 myself with an offer of 2g for a 6500USD, he is right they are not an in-demand Tudor like the black bay heritage but still a very nice timepiece when you consider it an in-house movement tested by COSC, as much as I love Rolex subs I cant bring myself to spend that kinda of money on a watch, I will happily stick with my tudor/Omega/Longines

    • @2011blueman
      @2011blueman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      These guys are mostly wholesalers, so they like to buy watches cheap enough that they can make $500-$1000 from selling to a retailer who will then mark the watch up and sell it to a consumer. I really wouldn't sell anything to them without checking with my local watch shops to see what they'd offer. I think the only Tudor these guys are willing to buy at a decent price is probably the tudor panda versions because those still sell quickly.

  • @Lurthatgurl
    @Lurthatgurl ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else catch Adrian saying “There is somebody else out there that needs to pay his debts” “No names mentioned “ Perfect 😂 ** I think we all know who it is 😮hint 5 million

  • @hulkboker2505
    @hulkboker2505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where ist Chris?

  • @jeffreyy115
    @jeffreyy115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thailand is NOT Taiwan

  • @grizzly3133
    @grizzly3133 ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of ballpark on prices.....it may hanging by hair.........triple retail has limits
    Economy.....its a head on collision!!!!

  • @milvisd6409
    @milvisd6409 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fav - Adrian, Nicole, Gary!

  • @CAHEKyy
    @CAHEKyy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gary is an OG CLASSIC AND yes he need his own multimedia persona