Taylor really hit the nail on the head when she talked about how female artists are always expected to reinvent themselves. People literally want her to do a new genre every album lmao.
i’m sorry, but Taylor is not getting rid of Jack anytime soon they’re literally best friends and Taylor clearly feels like she can open up to him and be really vulnerable with him and that’s huge when it comes to a producer/co-writer
Personally their sound together is getting tiring. And I blame both Taylor and Jack for it. Bc Taylor is the one who's in control. They can do 2-3 songs an album, but half an album or full album is too much at this point. It's boring
I agree and would also add that Taylor is also listed as a producer, so she is clearly in control of her work. If you don't like her work, then move on and stop complaining, IMO.
@@Tal_reputationThe only reason I don't find it tiring is because a lot of musicians are not using instruments to create their songs, and at least Jack and Taylor still are. That's actually a big reason the songs sound the same. Now if she goes off, and does that pop sound that we here a lot, we may get a Dua Lipa 3rd album where no one will care. Maybe if Taylor goes even more with full instruments with another producer, it could be more appealing and different. But I think if she does go to another producer, it will be manufactured reused sounds that we hear from all the pop girls.
@@lexis4490 oh, I'm tired of the 80's synths. I so want Taylor to make live instruments album again. Like, a real guitar, bass, drums. Cause it all sound so synth. Too synth and I'm tired of it.
I also don’t understand the Jack stuff when he has produced so many fan favs!! out of the woods, I wish you would, getaway car, cornelia street, cruel summer, my tears, ricochet, mirrorball, August, maroon, you’re on your own kid
I can do with a broken heart is not the only bop on the first half of the album. guilty as sin, but daddy i love him, down bad, my boy… you can also bop to the verses and pre-courses of fresh out the slammer.
Jack is catering to what vibe she wants.....blaming Jack for an album not being what YOU want it to be is just small dick energy for not telling TS directly you want something different from her....If you listen to other people he has produced the sound / vibe is totally different 🤷♀️ So he is capable of switching it up, but that is not what is being asked of him....
she already did that with folklore. She was working on a new album that no one not even her label knew about until a week before the release. she didn’t do a pop thing & she didn’t release a lead single for the first time ever and she announced it 12 hours before it came out.
I've had my thoughts about what Ive wanted for her next, but after TTPD i cant even think about it, im so FULL... im not ordering dessert . I will say though, you guys neee to watch/remember the 1989 tour rock ballad "we are never ever getting back together" and then come tell me she cant do rock. Her spirit left her body and performed that song.
The long concert thing,if I’m paying over $500.00 or more for tickets I want my money’s worth and like an hour or so isn’t your moneys worth, ERAS TOUR is your moneys worth,Billie doesn’t have enough material for a 3 hour show anyways. Had she said that before the tour started I wouldn’t care much,but for Billie to say that while it’s the highest grossing concert tour of all time seems ignorance mixed in with a little jealousy,you look at the ERAS numbers obviously people do want a 3 hour show,many solo artists and bands have had 3 hour shows over the years.
I love the theory of the "you smoked and ate 7 bars of chocolate" line being about him "eating," like killing it, 7 bars, like in a musical sense, his song Chocolate. It makes the line way less silly to me. 🍫
You smoked then ate 7 bars of chocolate seems to be easily about eating a ton of edibles and coming to the conclusion that Charlie Puth is underrated. Haven’t we all been there 😂
The Billie E topic made me think of the "I hate it here" lyric "tell me something awful Like you are a poet trapped inside the body of a finance guy" the something awful is artist whose art is held hostage because on money.
If your music is really that good fans want the double albums! The two doing it the biggest is Taylor and Wallen he’s done 2 double albums in a row and as a lover of his music too if his double albums continue to be that good to where I don’t even skip one single song…keep em comin! More music for us!
billies manager has been liking and retweeting hate tweets specifically about taylor. even posted his own anti taylor tweets dating back to like 2014. the way billie has been acting/shit shes been saying, her brother making jokes about "taylor sue them" on a hot mic, and top it off with her own manager feeling comfortable enough to be liking and retweeting hate about HER PEER who has only publicly shown respect? billie does everything that she talks shit on other artists for doing. shes throwing rocks in her glass house. its ridiculous to give her the benefit of the doubt over and over again.
also its fuckin baffling that this 40something year old man just told a long winded story about choking on a popsicle alone in bed with no pay off, yet his 'nightmare' is having travis kelce on his podcast and "pretending to care what he says"...come the fuck on now....insincerity is in the air this ep. foh
Trust me. 22 is YOUNG! I'm 55 and I look back at my 20s and winder what the hell I was thinking. "How can a person know everything at 18 but nothing at 22" will really hit you when you hit your 40s.
Kelly I don’t know if something is wrong with your app cuz it’s working for me, but she did TTPD and now that we don’t talk on the guitar and then you’re on your own kid and long live on the piano. then the other side of the door was part of the mashup with the way I loved you and come back be here
Go to Lisbon. It’s gorgeous and everyone is so nice. The entire country is gorgeous and only a 5 hr flight from Boston. Azores and Madeira are also gorgeous.
Team Gia!!! Although I am still at the point where I can’t even choose a favorite because I am just so obsessed with almost every song. Glad to hear your thoughts on Billie and her comments. I feel the same- felt like it was pretty obvious who she was directing them towards and just seemed unnecessary.
imo Aaron dessner is a lot more one note than Jack. regardless, I think jack will be involved in every Taylor project moving forward so y'all just have to get used to it at this point lol
I think when Taylor changed her record label she was free to pick her own collaborates, but that meant she lost the ones from her old label (Martin & Shellback) which is why her sound changed a bit, so I would like to see her open her pool of collaborators again. But I really love jacks sound I don't want him to totally go away.
The problem with Jack's production is that there is no-one who says that the quality of the Eras tour live production is so much less that it is noticeable. So if the live band can produce an accompanying sound that is on par with the album production then there is something wrong.
@@lexis4490 They don't though, i hear more people talking about the songs sounding better live then they did on the album. My favourite band is Tool and there the talk is often how good they sound live almost studio quality! Now i fully understand that the two are not comparable, Tool is a full band while Taylor is a lyricist/singer with accompanying sound. But take the smallest man, i found it an ok track on the album but live it comes across so much better and the introduction of the drumline, the rhythm is more hidden on the album, made it awesome. My question is more if Jack might be a bit stuck on what he can do with Taylor and that a bit of spice might liven it up a bit. Take Billies album, a lot of people were surprised by the music on some of the tracks, i haven't heard someone talk like that about TTPD.
1) She's sweating during the show so not much of a chance she needs a restroom break. Think NASCAR. 4-5 hours! 2) She's can tell which songs are better than others because streaming services keep track. She thought "SLUT!" was going to be THE vault track for 1989. Turns out "Is It Over Now" was the real winning. She knows what's going on.
Afaik Billie's catalogue is just over 3 hours long so she would have to play most of it. I think Billies management made a miscalculation in thinking that releasing her album less then a month after Taylors and just after the restart of her tour would still be enough for Billie to get nr 1. When time came close i think they got nervous and i think they tried to galvanize her fans and some of the anti Swift sentiment but they overdid it and got a response because Taylor is at times petty and cares about the rankings and accolades.
sometimes I feel like these girls only like Taylor because they are able to make money off of it. like listening to hthaze when he so clearly does not like Taylor or take her as an artist seriously
If Taylor Swift uses a different producer, I beg her not to use samples and not to be overproduced. So many musicians use samples. So many songs are overproduced that the lyrics don't even matter. They can mumble, don't make sense, and repeat lines over and over. Lot of times the songs are overproduced because they are referencing a song that was already made, but don't want to officially sample it. Nostalgia is killing creativity in music right now.
i am ready for non personal writing to. i want Taylor to have a Sondheim moment and find some obscure topic and write an album. a concept album if you will.
Lovely professionals here but just unsubscribed. This episode could have been a 15 min recap. Had to scroll through back and forth looking for the one interest - aka Kyle Kelce commentary. Perhaps include time stamps - noone has the time to listen to this 1.35h
Taylor really hit the nail on the head when she talked about how female artists are always expected to reinvent themselves. People literally want her to do a new genre every album lmao.
i’m sorry, but Taylor is not getting rid of Jack anytime soon they’re literally best friends and Taylor clearly feels like she can open up to him and be really vulnerable with him and that’s huge when it comes to a producer/co-writer
Personally their sound together is getting tiring. And I blame both Taylor and Jack for it. Bc Taylor is the one who's in control. They can do 2-3 songs an album, but half an album or full album is too much at this point. It's boring
I agree and would also add that Taylor is also listed as a producer, so she is clearly in control of her work. If you don't like her work, then move on and stop complaining, IMO.
@@Tal_reputationThe only reason I don't find it tiring is because a lot of musicians are not using instruments to create their songs, and at least Jack and Taylor still are. That's actually a big reason the songs sound the same. Now if she goes off, and does that pop sound that we here a lot, we may get a Dua Lipa 3rd album where no one will care. Maybe if Taylor goes even more with full instruments with another producer, it could be more appealing and different. But I think if she does go to another producer, it will be manufactured reused sounds that we hear from all the pop girls.
@@lexis4490 oh, I'm tired of the 80's synths. I so want Taylor to make live instruments album again. Like, a real guitar, bass, drums. Cause it all sound so synth. Too synth and I'm tired of it.
When did she tell you that
I also don’t understand the Jack stuff when he has produced so many fan favs!! out of the woods, I wish you would, getaway car, cornelia street, cruel summer, my tears, ricochet, mirrorball, August, maroon, you’re on your own kid
Ya im not done. I actually love Aaron's stuff more, but Jack bops!
I can do with a broken heart is not the only bop on the first half of the album. guilty as sin, but daddy i love him, down bad, my boy… you can also bop to the verses and pre-courses of fresh out the slammer.
Jack is catering to what vibe she wants.....blaming Jack for an album not being what YOU want it to be is just small dick energy for not telling TS directly you want something different from her....If you listen to other people he has produced the sound / vibe is totally different 🤷♀️ So he is capable of switching it up, but that is not what is being asked of him....
yes thank you i wish people understood this
Omg this is by far the most undecided I’ve ever been with a draft. They’re all so good
she already did that with folklore. She was working on a new album that no one not even her label knew about until a week before the release. she didn’t do a pop thing & she didn’t release a lead single for the first time ever and she announced it 12 hours before it came out.
Taylor really does put drugs in her songs because I can’t stop listening to TTPD.
I've had my thoughts about what Ive wanted for her next, but after TTPD i cant even think about it, im so FULL... im not ordering dessert .
I will say though, you guys neee to watch/remember the 1989 tour rock ballad "we are never ever getting back together" and then come tell me she cant do rock. Her spirit left her body and performed that song.
OMG agree with everything you are saying here! The 1989 performance 🔥🔥🔥
got the notification, i am here!!! missed my girls!
The long concert thing,if I’m paying over $500.00 or more for tickets I want my money’s worth and like an hour or so isn’t your moneys worth, ERAS TOUR is your moneys worth,Billie doesn’t have enough material for a 3 hour show anyways. Had she said that before the tour started I wouldn’t care much,but for Billie to say that while it’s the highest grossing concert tour of all time seems ignorance mixed in with a little jealousy,you look at the ERAS numbers obviously people do want a 3 hour show,many solo artists and bands have had 3 hour shows over the years.
I love the theory of the "you smoked and ate 7 bars of chocolate" line being about him "eating," like killing it, 7 bars, like in a musical sense, his song Chocolate. It makes the line way less silly to me. 🍫
You smoked then ate 7 bars of chocolate seems to be easily about eating a ton of edibles and coming to the conclusion that Charlie Puth is underrated. Haven’t we all been there 😂
Speak Now TV was announced at Nashville N1, which was a Friday night.
I think we need a brief run down of what you all get correct or incorrectly guess on Mastermind. I play this game DILIGENTLY!
Being from KC I don’t think Travis has changed one bit I think the perception of him from outsiders has changed.
100%
Agree.
When you talked about haze, the review, I also love him!
The Billie E topic made me think of the "I hate it here" lyric "tell me something awful Like you are a poet trapped inside the body of a finance guy" the something awful is artist whose art is held hostage because on money.
the way the video keeps spoiling the picks in the draft are killing me gia lol love u tho
"thats true but taylor is a constant" oh swifties we should claim this one he's a good egg
If your music is really that good fans want the double albums! The two doing it the biggest is Taylor and Wallen he’s done 2 double albums in a row and as a lover of his music too if his double albums continue to be that good to where I don’t even skip one single song…keep em comin! More music for us!
this is why you need to shuffle TTPD because you’ll be able to listen to every song a lot more
billies manager has been liking and retweeting hate tweets specifically about taylor. even posted his own anti taylor tweets dating back to like 2014. the way billie has been acting/shit shes been saying, her brother making jokes about "taylor sue them" on a hot mic, and top it off with her own manager feeling comfortable enough to be liking and retweeting hate about HER PEER who has only publicly shown respect? billie does everything that she talks shit on other artists for doing. shes throwing rocks in her glass house. its ridiculous to give her the benefit of the doubt over and over again.
also its fuckin baffling that this 40something year old man just told a long winded story about choking on a popsicle alone in bed with no pay off, yet his 'nightmare' is having travis kelce on his podcast and "pretending to care what he says"...come the fuck on now....insincerity is in the air this ep. foh
Had to turn it off at the 9 minute mark. Just a lot of ttpd negativity for what I thought was a fun happy Taylor pod :’)
Im sure there are so many ass hat producers out there... i just want TAS to make art with people she trusts ❤
I split the album into running sessions. For upbeat I do first half and for recovery runs I do second half. I do not shuffle or mix it up 😂
billie is 22 you guys keep saying that she is so young as if she 13 🙄🙄
More importantly she’s not a newbie to the industry.
Trust me. 22 is YOUNG! I'm 55 and I look back at my 20s and winder what the hell I was thinking. "How can a person know everything at 18 but nothing at 22" will really hit you when you hit your 40s.
Kelly I don’t know if something is wrong with your app cuz it’s working for me, but she did TTPD and now that we don’t talk on the guitar and then you’re on your own kid and long live on the piano. then the other side of the door was part of the mashup with the way I loved you and come back be here
Go to Lisbon. It’s gorgeous and everyone is so nice. The entire country is gorgeous and only a 5 hr flight from Boston. Azores and Madeira are also gorgeous.
Every long over 5 min song I’ve ever heard come out is a crazy classic or is that artists fan favorite.
I am most aligned with feits draft list honestly!
I feel bad for Guilty as Sin? I could have sworn it would go earlier in the draft. Love the pod ❤
Portugal is not 4 hours from new York lmao
kelly the bangs are banging gia i need that outfit give it to me pls ty LOVE THE EP !!
Team Gia!!! Although I am still at the point where I can’t even choose a favorite because I am just so obsessed with almost every song. Glad to hear your thoughts on Billie and her comments. I feel the same- felt like it was pretty obvious who she was directing them towards and just seemed unnecessary.
I’m probs going Gia but they’re all so good
Rock album? Yes, please!
After she sang we are never ever getting back together on the 1989 tour I need her to do a rock album 🎸🙏🏻
guilty as sin? and how did it end? not being snatched IMMEDIATELY is absolutely wild to me
i cant pick a winner... john got black dog, gia got peter and kelly got i looks in people window... i cant !
imo Aaron dessner is a lot more one note than Jack. regardless, I think jack will be involved in every Taylor project moving forward so y'all just have to get used to it at this point lol
guys idk but the audio in your vids is really low even if i have it on maximum volume in my speaker huhu
I think when Taylor changed her record label she was free to pick her own collaborates, but that meant she lost the ones from her old label (Martin & Shellback) which is why her sound changed a bit, so I would like to see her open her pool of collaborators again. But I really love jacks sound I don't want him to totally go away.
I can fix him is my favorite off ttpd 😳😭😭😭😭
The problem with Jack's production is that there is no-one who says that the quality of the Eras tour live production is so much less that it is noticeable. So if the live band can produce an accompanying sound that is on par with the album production then there is something wrong.
Why would it be a problem that real instruments can produce the same sound on the album? Do you not like real instruments in songs?
@@lexis4490 They don't though, i hear more people talking about the songs sounding better live then they did on the album. My favourite band is Tool and there the talk is often how good they sound live almost studio quality!
Now i fully understand that the two are not comparable, Tool is a full band while Taylor is a lyricist/singer with accompanying sound. But take the smallest man, i found it an ok track on the album but live it comes across so much better and the introduction of the drumline, the rhythm is more hidden on the album, made it awesome. My question is more if Jack might be a bit stuck on what he can do with Taylor and that a bit of spice might liven it up a bit.
Take Billies album, a lot of people were surprised by the music on some of the tracks, i haven't heard someone talk like that about TTPD.
justice for my boy...
jack antonoff is goated! no slander!
6:58 I totally agree but isn't that the point of an album? It's all supposed to sound the same.
And Lenny Kravitz in Paris, I believe.
Honestly I’m team Gia here, I just can’t turn my back on Guilty as Sin AND Prophecy.
When I see Feits & Keegs I click 0:35
1) She's sweating during the show so not much of a chance she needs a restroom break. Think NASCAR. 4-5 hours!
2) She's can tell which songs are better than others because streaming services keep track. She thought "SLUT!" was going to be THE vault track for 1989. Turns out "Is It Over Now" was the real winning. She knows what's going on.
Afaik Billie's catalogue is just over 3 hours long so she would have to play most of it. I think Billies management made a miscalculation in thinking that releasing her album less then a month after Taylors and just after the restart of her tour would still be enough for Billie to get nr 1. When time came close i think they got nervous and i think they tried to galvanize her fans and some of the anti Swift sentiment but they overdid it and got a response because Taylor is at times petty and cares about the rankings and accolades.
Kelly totally wins the draft. But I do think the Prophecy is amazing.
Soooooooo perhaps Trav in her orbit leads to TS collabs with MGK….?
Team John
Loml should be way higher on this list but I know it's just my opinion and those are yours.
hthaze watcher to. enjoy yall keep it up.
Gias 10000%
sometimes I feel like these girls only like Taylor because they are able to make money off of it. like listening to hthaze when he so clearly does not like Taylor or take her as an artist seriously
Team Kelly
Kelly wins!!
If Taylor Swift uses a different producer, I beg her not to use samples and not to be overproduced. So many musicians use samples. So many songs are overproduced that the lyrics don't even matter. They can mumble, don't make sense, and repeat lines over and over. Lot of times the songs are overproduced because they are referencing a song that was already made, but don't want to officially sample it. Nostalgia is killing creativity in music right now.
White Panda!
loml is way too low
Love me some feits 🥰
It seems Gia and I have similar taste as I too watch HTHaze.
i am ready for non personal writing to. i want Taylor to have a Sondheim moment and find some obscure topic and write an album. a concept album if you will.
Lovely professionals here but just unsubscribed. This episode could have been a 15 min recap. Had to scroll through back and forth looking for the one interest - aka Kyle Kelce commentary. Perhaps include time stamps - noone has the time to listen to this 1.35h
Omg this is by far the most undecided I’ve ever been with a draft. They’re all so good
Team Kelly