55:20 THIS! Shadow work is so important! Most "carpe diem" / "positive vibes only" folks can be the most evil folks for they always swallow their demons. I am so glad to transform my anger and hatredy using black metal into something beautiful. Shadow work.
Thanks for sharing this conversation. One of the few concerts I have clear memories of from my teen years was the time I saw Celtic Frost with Type O Negative. I have a great respect for Tom and always appreciate his candor. Thanks for taking the time to work on this and making it available, Shayan. Respect and gratitude🤘
Fantastic interview. I wish every musician could be as honest as Tom was here and I wish more interviewers would bring conversations to this level of depth. I really don't know anything substantial about most of my favorite musicians because nobody tries to go beyond the surface in their interviews.
1:29:50 the fourth?! What about the third? DOUBLE-ALBUM PERHAPS?!? One could WISH! edit: nope lol this is one of the best interviews I've ever seen; incredibly well done
Wow, unexpected. I was just looking for Tryptikon performances and suddenly I saw an interview with Tom from you. Amazing. Really enjoyed previously listening to the conversation with Erik Andersson and Naas Alcameth. Thank you, Shayan.
Fantastic interview. Triumph of Death were incredible to watch at Brutal Assault last week. The crowd often gave "UGH" chants between songs, to Tom would reply in jest; "At least I'll be remembered for something".
5:56 i will definitely give your band a listen, as i had my fair share with religion in my life as well! I know Lord Faustoos of the band Mogh. Maybe you know him too. As my musical journey started 24 years ago on guitar (yes. I am 34 yrs old) we had a media store and there was a table of sale CD's. I think 2,50€ each and in between there were some Celtic Frost CD's which I bought and fell in love with ❤ Now i will enjoy you interviewing Tom 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I have nothing but respect for Tom and the way that he went about touring the Hellhammer songs. we 80's metal fans are so fucking fussy and particular about the way things are done, especially with the old old bands. if Tom had just called the band "Hellhammer" and toured here.... all the old school 'heads would have reacted and said "its not Hellhammer... who does he think he is". he called it Triumph Of Death.. and put on the tickets "Triumph Of Death playing the songs of Hellhammer". in doing that, I had mates who played in well known 80's bands not only buy tickets, but refer to it as "the Hellhammer gig". class Tom G. (and Bono, Morrissey & Roger Waters rule.... . just saying....they have more balls than anyone. they have an opinion & they speak it. I thought that was the metal ethos)
I wonder if Tom could at least access his guitar and voice from the Monotheist demos and work other parts around it in the spirit of what Martin has on the demos.
Awesome stuff Shayan. Really enjoyed this one as a Triptykon fan. You're really becoming skilled at this interview thing, the Parkinson of Black Metal. Non Serviam
Me to!!!...and I get very offended when guitarist don't only use frets 1 to 8 and mainly only use the low E and A strings to make crushing cave man riffs.😮😂 Long live Celtic frost and hell hammer riffs!!!!!
Mock me if you want, but I'm one of those weirdos who loves Cold Lake. I know why Tom hates it, and I fully understand his very personal reasons, but for me on the outside looking in it's a strange, almost unintentionally brilliant album. If it was genuinely trying to be a Hair Metal project it failed miserably. Beyond the photo shoot, which itself was more a parody of the genre than anything, theres truly nothing Hair Metal about it. For me it's more of an odd combination of elements of NWOBHM, old-skool Thrash, and even hints of Melodic Doom, with maybe juuussst a dash of 80s Sleaze Rock. Chock full of memorable riffs, and dischordantly catchy. Totally unique and never duplicated. In a roundabout and purely accidental way, probably his most boldly original work. If you happen to read this Tom, please know I'm not being facetious or disingenuous. There are those of us out here that genuinely appreciate that record. It is not a taint upon your legacy and you can be as proud of it as you are of the rest of your catalogue. Cheers!
Not speaking on behalf of the artists here, of course - but as a fan, I think if any other band released the album at that time, or if it was their first album, then it might have been highly regarded... But to have its predecessors in both Celtic Frost and Hellhammer, perhaps that's what makes it a difficult album to digest. There are several other albums in Metal history that we could say the same thing about, this one is just an extreme example.
It´s all got to do with Marketing a brand and , extremely ironically as this may sound after having listened to this interview , -the deplorable way Humans perceive/interact with one another. Besides that, at the time, to me it was simply an honest document of a band having fun for once. Loosening up ,after all the stress I witnessed them accumulating over the years from labels´s (Noise recs ) demands/impositions and general lack of support ,plus other bureaucracies which are inherent to the business. In the above sense ,"Cold Lake " will always represent a Great document imho. I see nothing wrong about CF going all New York Dolls meets Speed Metal with a sense of humour for once ,as opposed to the release of yet another highly introspective, oniric ,thought provoking piece of art as they did with the previous album ("Into the Pandemonium " is as Sacred today as when it 1st touched me as a mid teen in the 80s ) . Apologise for the rambling about but just felt like letting you know that you are hardly alone in your appreciation for "Cold Lake ".
I viewed it as a natural progression between "Into The Pandemonium" and "Vanity/Nemesis". I've talked to Oliver Amberg about it, and he let me listen to some of the Demos for the Cold Lake material. The CD needs to be remixed. The Demo mixes were far heavier than the released version.
Starts off saying "why should anyone listen to my opinion" - spends the next hour expressing more wisdom, intelligence, and insight than I've heard in a long time. We should spend more time listening to artists, not less.
Great interview and like Tom alluded to and acknowledged in your chat, a very different type of conversation, for which he was grateful for, than just your typical interview, Thought provoking questions and a depth of mutual understanding between you both, so good on you Shayan for doing such a great job! I would have asked Tom for an update and / or if there are still plans for him to update his "Are You Morbid?" autobiography, but otherwise this was perfect! 🤘
Tom is intelligent and articulate (even in English) and a black metal godfather. As well as a gentleman.
@@forever3797 Indeed.
55:20
THIS! Shadow work is so important!
Most "carpe diem" / "positive vibes only" folks can be the most evil folks for they always swallow their demons.
I am so glad to transform my anger and hatredy using black metal into something beautiful. Shadow work.
Thanks for sharing this conversation. One of the few concerts I have clear memories of from my teen years was the time I saw Celtic Frost with Type O Negative. I have a great respect for Tom and always appreciate his candor. Thanks for taking the time to work on this and making it available, Shayan. Respect and gratitude🤘
@@BenedettoM much appreciated! It's great that you got to witness that.
Fantastic interview. I wish every musician could be as honest as Tom was here and I wish more interviewers would bring conversations to this level of depth. I really don't know anything substantial about most of my favorite musicians because nobody tries to go beyond the surface in their interviews.
Appreciate hearing your feedback - this is exactly why this channel exists. 🙂
@iblismanifestations231 I will pay you $5000 if you can get Joey Demaio on for a 90 minute interview and make him cry.
@@jonzaremba OMG! :D
@@jonzaremba
😂😂
Tom's the man
Hell yeah.
1:29:50 the fourth?! What about the third? DOUBLE-ALBUM PERHAPS?!?
One could WISH!
edit: nope lol
this is one of the best interviews I've ever seen; incredibly well done
Really enjoyed this. Thank you both.
Cheers, Adrian!
Wow, unexpected. I was just looking for Tryptikon performances and suddenly I saw an interview with Tom from you. Amazing. Really enjoyed previously listening to the conversation with Erik Andersson and Naas Alcameth. Thank you, Shayan.
Thank you for listening.
Fantastic interview. Triumph of Death were incredible to watch at Brutal Assault last week.
The crowd often gave "UGH" chants between songs, to Tom would reply in jest; "At least I'll be remembered for something".
Wow! This was freaking awesome! Thank you for the upload. This was a great conversation. All hails to TGW! 🤘🤘
Thanks for tuning in!
A true inspiration in my life. I love Tom immensely
5:56 i will definitely give your band a listen, as i had my fair share with religion in my life as well!
I know Lord Faustoos of the band Mogh. Maybe you know him too.
As my musical journey started 24 years ago on guitar (yes. I am 34 yrs old) we had a media store and there was a table of sale CD's.
I think 2,50€ each and in between there were some Celtic Frost CD's which I bought and fell in love with ❤
Now i will enjoy you interviewing Tom 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Well done Shayan, you keep outdoing yourself with every guest you bring to the podcast. Mad respect brother 🤘
Much appreciated.
Brilliant vid.
Excellent !
I love Tom and Celtic Frost since the 80s 🤘💪🔥👊👊 fantastic interview my friend 🤘
@@christopheraustin1397 cheers!
hah! amazing podcast as always. Loved it
@@elf.2702 Thanks.
COLD LAKE 🌈 🌈 🌈 CUTE ALBUM BEAUTIFUL CELTIC FROST 💋💟💟💟💟💟💟💟
Outstanding interview! Greetings from Costa Rica 💪
Cheers to Costa Rica!
I have nothing but respect for Tom and the way that he went about touring the Hellhammer songs. we 80's metal fans are so fucking fussy and particular about the way things are done, especially with the old old bands. if Tom had just called the band "Hellhammer" and toured here.... all the old school 'heads would have reacted and said "its not Hellhammer... who does he think he is". he called it Triumph Of Death.. and put on the tickets "Triumph Of Death playing the songs of Hellhammer". in doing that, I had mates who played in well known 80's bands not only buy tickets, but refer to it as "the Hellhammer gig". class Tom G. (and Bono, Morrissey & Roger Waters rule.... . just saying....they have more balls than anyone. they have an opinion & they speak it. I thought that was the metal ethos)
Martin Ain rip 😔
Endless respect and love for Tom and his work 🙏
Finished the interview, and daaaaaamn it was great! Well done.
Thank you!
Thank you Iblis and thank you Tom G Warrior!!
Thank you for listening.
Much Respect.
Nice interview.
I wonder if Tom could at least access his guitar and voice from the Monotheist demos and work other parts around it in the spirit of what Martin has on the demos.
Awesome stuff Shayan. Really enjoyed this one as a Triptykon fan. You're really becoming skilled at this interview thing, the Parkinson of Black Metal.
Non Serviam
Thanks, mate!
Legend🤘🏼🔥Great conversation 🤘🏼🔥
Thank you for listening.
My pleasure It was Amazing I now respect Tom even more than I did.I had never heard him go so deep.You brang it out of him!@@iblismanifestations231
@@Federico.el.Noruego I feel the same sentiment after our conversation!
I identify as a Tom G Warrior fan! My pronouns are Ugh/Hey.
Awesome interview man!
🤘⸸🤘
Me to!!!...and I get very offended when guitarist don't only use frets 1 to 8 and mainly only use the low E and A strings to make crushing cave man riffs.😮😂 Long live Celtic frost and hell hammer riffs!!!!!
18:01 THIS!!!!
Ok… Let’s watch it 🤘🏻
Enjoy!
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Deth shall rise..
I wish he'd re-release the Are You Morbid book.
Y'don't sound like no relic or ancient part of history, Tom G.. You sound like the most cutting-edge part of what Heavy Metal still exists
Subscribed 🙏🏻
Cool
Mock me if you want, but I'm one of those weirdos who loves Cold Lake. I know why Tom hates it, and I fully understand his very personal reasons, but for me on the outside looking in it's a strange, almost unintentionally brilliant album. If it was genuinely trying to be a Hair Metal project it failed miserably. Beyond the photo shoot, which itself was more a parody of the genre than anything, theres truly nothing Hair Metal about it. For me it's more of an odd combination of elements of NWOBHM, old-skool Thrash, and even hints of Melodic Doom, with maybe juuussst a dash of 80s Sleaze Rock. Chock full of memorable riffs, and dischordantly catchy. Totally unique and never duplicated. In a roundabout and purely accidental way, probably his most boldly original work. If you happen to read this Tom, please know I'm not being facetious or disingenuous. There are those of us out here that genuinely appreciate that record. It is not a taint upon your legacy and you can be as proud of it as you are of the rest of your catalogue. Cheers!
Not speaking on behalf of the artists here, of course - but as a fan, I think if any other band released the album at that time, or if it was their first album, then it might have been highly regarded... But to have its predecessors in both Celtic Frost and Hellhammer, perhaps that's what makes it a difficult album to digest.
There are several other albums in Metal history that we could say the same thing about, this one is just an extreme example.
It´s all got to do with Marketing a brand and , extremely ironically as this may sound after having listened to this interview , -the deplorable way Humans perceive/interact with one another.
Besides that, at the time, to me it was simply an honest document of a band having fun for once. Loosening up ,after all the stress I witnessed them accumulating over the years from labels´s (Noise recs ) demands/impositions and general lack of support ,plus other bureaucracies which are inherent to the business.
In the above sense ,"Cold Lake " will always represent a Great document imho. I see nothing wrong about CF going all New York Dolls meets Speed Metal with a sense of humour for once ,as opposed to the release of yet another highly introspective, oniric ,thought provoking piece of art as they did with the previous album ("Into the Pandemonium " is as Sacred today as when it 1st touched me as a mid teen in the 80s ) .
Apologise for the rambling about but just felt like letting you know that you are hardly alone in your appreciation for "Cold Lake ".
I viewed it as a natural progression between "Into The Pandemonium" and "Vanity/Nemesis".
I've talked to Oliver Amberg about it, and he let me listen to some of the Demos for the Cold Lake material. The CD needs to be remixed. The Demo mixes were far heavier than the released version.
An almost 2 hour interview with no timestamps. 😞
@@MrOctober44 patience is a virtue!
uh the words at 1.36.52 min....is Tom with some disease?even him being a dark person seems realy too harsh.
UGHHH!
Hay hay...
Beat me too it.
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Starts off saying "why should anyone listen to my opinion" - spends the next hour expressing more wisdom, intelligence, and insight than I've heard in a long time. We should spend more time listening to artists, not less.
Great interview and like Tom alluded to and acknowledged in your chat, a very different type of conversation, for which he was grateful for, than just your typical interview, Thought provoking questions and a depth of mutual understanding between you both, so good on you Shayan for doing such a great job! I would have asked Tom for an update and / or if there are still plans for him to update his "Are You Morbid?" autobiography, but otherwise this was perfect! 🤘
@@crrscribe Appreciate you tuning in, cheers!