5G Uplink Channels: Learn About UL Channels With UE Logs!

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    5G Uplink Channels: Learn About UL Channels With UE Logs!
    The video covers the 5G Uplink Channels and their functionalities. It also adds a new dimension by adding UE logs and signaling level explanation for uplink channels and their configuration explaining how the mobiles find out about the uplink channels in order to access them.
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    0:00 Start
    0:54 5G RACH : Random Access Channel
    4:34 5G RACH Configuration From UE RRC Log
    9:02 PUSCH : Physical Uplink Shared Channel
    10:14 PUCCH : Physical Uplink Control Channel
    18:20 Uplink Reference Signals - SRS & DMRS
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  • @OurTechPlanet
    @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @amirzebbadshah7281
    @amirzebbadshah7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Believe me your videos are much better than most of the courses sold online. In 5G i believe if more content is added, would really help the learners. Keep it up.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That is great to hear. Stay tuned, working on many more things!

    • @CheerfulTv-ji6lb
      @CheerfulTv-ji6lb หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree I am a Telekom engineer with just 4 years of experience and happily learning and enjoying thanks a lot whoever you are sorry I don’t know your name

  • @AlirezaAlizadeh4
    @AlirezaAlizadeh4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your color coding and the way you relate the concepts to RRC configurations. Really helpful!

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks again. Glad that it is helpful :)

  • @praveenchakravarthy5873
    @praveenchakravarthy5873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gone through most of your videos , they way you are simplifying the concepts is pretty good. Thanks and keep posting more stuff..👍👍

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is great to hear as this is the main objective of this channel! Thanks!

  • @claretantony434
    @claretantony434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent way of explaining the 5G procedure and channel concepts by taking the Trace log as well. Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is great to hear. Thanks :)

  • @the.georgest
    @the.georgest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good explanation of NR UL channels, indeed. However, I have a few things to comment:
    1. When talking about RACH configuration maybe you should emphasize also msg1-FrequencyStart, as the position of RACH channel in frequency domain is very important, especially when UL has configured continuous PRB allocation.
    2. For Long PUCCH Formats you said that in one slot there will be one freq. position of PUCCH channel (PRB 272), while in another slot frequency there will be secondHopPRB position (PRB 0). However, I can see from the configuration that intraSlotFrequencyHopping is enabled and, as per my understanding, that means that in first 7 symbols within one slot PUCCH channel will be at position 272, while in the next 7 symbols within the same slot PUCCH channel will be at position 0.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah your points are valid. Thanks for the feedback, appreciated :)

  • @carolinemathieson
    @carolinemathieson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your very clear annunciation on this video. There are so many videos on here that are spoiled by poor presentation but yours is the best I have seen yet! This is coming from a telecomms technical trainer so I know how difficult can be to describe these concepts in an easily understandable way.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot, Caroline! Really means a lot :)

  • @SarangDumbre
    @SarangDumbre ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way you have explained the purpose of using the short PUCCH and Long PUCCH is remarkable. Great Explanation altogether. I certainly recommend this channel to anyone who wants to have in-depth knowledge.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is great to hear. Thanks! :)

  • @syedmohtada
    @syedmohtada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Making complex topics to simpler is called “Our Technology Planet “ 😊 Thanks again for this video

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! That is great to hear! :)

  • @sivanagarajuthota4598
    @sivanagarajuthota4598 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No words to say except simple word awesome. Increadable job You made. 🙏

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot, that is so good to hear :)

  • @albaraahassan6271
    @albaraahassan6271 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent as usual!

  • @akmzakaria3054
    @akmzakaria3054 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for what you do !

  • @coolmunzir
    @coolmunzir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Precise & Detailed explanation

  • @dhananjaycse06
    @dhananjaycse06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing wonderful session 🙏

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome! Glad that it helped :)

  • @VipinSharma825
    @VipinSharma825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    really helpful

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Glad to know that it was helpful!

  • @iulhaq1
    @iulhaq1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well explained 👏

  • @surajpratapsaroj1690
    @surajpratapsaroj1690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well explanation sir
    A lot of Thanks Sir

  • @MG-qu9ig
    @MG-qu9ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hello Sir,
    Thank you for this session
    Here are some video ideas:
    * Explanation of individual DCI fields & calculations of UL grant, K0, K1, K2 and other parameters using the DCI fields
    * UCI fields
    * HARQ procedure in 5G
    * Coreset and searchSpace in 5G
    * PRB, CRB, VRB in 5G
    * 2 step RACH procedure
    Thanks Again🙏

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Noted!

    • @dailydairy7679
      @dailydairy7679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OurTechPlanet Hi sir, looking forward for the explanation of the above topics sir

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dailydairy7679 All in due time, stay tuned!

    • @dailydairy7679
      @dailydairy7679 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@OurTechPlanet Big fan of your presenting style, Thank-you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dailydairy7679 Thanks!

  • @rezatvn7448
    @rezatvn7448 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awsome👏👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @paynemax9178
    @paynemax9178 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    VERY good vedio good explain to channel

  • @renegade9991
    @renegade9991 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi Haider - I am looking for an explanation on end to end call flow explaining all the phases RRC,NG and PDU session establishment for a 5G SA Network

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will add that to my To-Do list :)

  • @jyothi648
    @jyothi648 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you explain more about PUCCH Channel like its common resources,dedicated resources & its formats in detail

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure, will add it to my list :)

  • @RajeshSharma-if3fi
    @RajeshSharma-if3fi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can we access to your other videos on 5G Down Links channels and other related videos. Indeed one of the best sessions I attended so far.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Most of the videos are in this playlist
      th-cam.com/play/PL4OXTttOk9WiLsz4fR62lpPcT3Wx3l5OP.html

  • @giaophung4886
    @giaophung4886 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, I would like to know about the reference table for PRACH configuration index, since I see 17 mean index 1. Or I check wrong table.

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Table is in 3GPP 38211.

  • @m.karthikeyan6482
    @m.karthikeyan6482 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @coolmunzir
    @coolmunzir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any reason of using 2 PDCCH/PDSCH Blocks in example for long PUCCH or is it by 3gpp standard?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No specific reason, just to clarify the difference in feedback delay between Long and Short PUCCH.
      It depends on the TDD format used. It can be 3 PDCCH/PDSCH Blocks (Slots) if we are using 3:1 DL/UL format or it can be 4 Slots if we are using 4:1 DL/UL format.

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An operator can opt either long PUCCH or short PUCCH for SR and HARQ Feedback or can use both of them depending on radio conditions ? Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      Usually, operators/vendors can opt which one to use.

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is short PUCCH always transmitted on special slot for better latency ? Thank you

  • @dailydairy7679
    @dailydairy7679 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    one doubt.... regarding Rach
    you were saying ue will know whether it is long/short rach preamble in RRCreconfig in NSA mode it is fine
    but in SA mode, rach first happens and then rrc configuration will happen right..? how does it manage now
    BTW, it was very informative video

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In NSA, the LTE Anchor sends the RRC message containing all the configuration for the NR Cell to the UE.

  • @Beordunlook
    @Beordunlook 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a nice video. My question is not related to this video.
    I use TEMS INVESTIGATION 21, I want to know which 5G phones are compatible with my version of Tems.
    Thanks

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry I don,t think I would be able to answer this :) Maybe someone else here has this information.

    • @Beordunlook
      @Beordunlook 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OurTechPlanet thanks.

  • @yap9660
    @yap9660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello Sir,
    Can you also explain the DL-SCH and UL-SCH process?

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The PUCCH DMRS are in the same PRB positions with PUCCH(band edges). Is it correct ?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes correct, PUCCH PRBs are usually at the edges

  • @FraunhoferIOSB-INA
    @FraunhoferIOSB-INA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Video! Is there any tool free of charge to get these logs? Which tool free of charge or licencesed do you can recommend?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      I dont think there are free tools for this but TEMS, Actix, Nemo are well known. I also used and shared a tool in the following session
      th-cam.com/video/sXgdmudCZzk/w-d-xo.html

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does Long Pucch always occupy an uplink slot(14 symbols)? Is it possible long pucch to occupy a special slot?Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      No, as far as I know, the current implementations of long PUCCH do not occupy special slots.

  • @CozyCornerCinema
    @CozyCornerCinema 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I imagine this is only limited to TDD ... Can you differentiate the uplink channel structures for FDD

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Other than the fact that UL will be on a different frequency in FDD, the main attributes are pretty similar for the PHY Channels

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the max number of PUSCH DMRS symbols that an operator can allocate ? Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Normally, 2 are allocated. Maximum per slot is 4.

  • @ShivangiTripathiMEE
    @ShivangiTripathiMEE ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone share the Matlab code for this technique? how time-frequency slots are assigned?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      I do not have a MATLAB code for this but lets see if someone else can share it :)

  • @tksusui
    @tksusui 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello,
    Why is the number of slot in frequency domain 36?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In frequency domain, we do not have slots but Resource Blocks. And this figure is not to the scale in frequency domain.

  • @artindance2992
    @artindance2992 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice, so SRS is valid only for TDD?
    For 700 FDD bands does SRS exist ?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SRS can exist for FDD as well. But mostly used in TDD because TDD has same frequency channel in DL and UL so the Node can use SRS to estimate the channel weights for DL.

    • @artindance2992
      @artindance2992 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OurTechPlanet thank you for your response

  • @georgioskarouzos7418
    @georgioskarouzos7418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do all 3 types of long formats occupy 2 slots?Thank you

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      As 3GPP 38211 explains, Long PUCCH can span over 4 to 14 symbols.

    • @georgioskarouzos7418
      @georgioskarouzos7418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OurTechPlanet I was asking about long preamble formats. For example, long preamble format 1 has 3msec duration, which means 6 consecutive ul slots for mid-band tdd (30khz scs) carrier n78. Is it correct?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgioskarouzos7418 yes you are correct but that is why long formats are more feasible for FDD.

  • @allenzhang9695
    @allenzhang9695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks a lot for the vidio and one question ? how is DMRS function for DL ? is it same concept for UL as well? is it can br dymic change in connection mode ?

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes the functionality of dmrs is similar i.e. used for demodulation of the data. It cannot be changed dynamically (e.g. the number of symbols used for DMRS are 2 then 2 symbols will be used throughout the connection).

  • @CheerfulTv-ji6lb
    @CheerfulTv-ji6lb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please the way you have simplified the 5g nsa call flow say way explain 5g sa call flow

    • @OurTechPlanet
      @OurTechPlanet  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Take a look at this one
      th-cam.com/video/2YN95HMxeb0/w-d-xo.html