Awesome video! B&Ws really do put a lot of detail in there speakers. Even for their entry level models, they have lots of technology going on. Also nice to see they make their own drivers.
A great video. A chance to see inside a prospective purchase, and something I’d never be game to do if I’d spent those sorts of dollars. A good speaker at that price point. Thank you for the look inside.
I am wondering how the plastic front is attached to the wooden cabinet. Did you have a look at that? Thinking about rebuilding them to upfire speakers to match the rest..
Can’t tell if the speaker basket is plastic or cast metal? The cone and magnet did look nice, and nice to see the adequate venting. Being that this is not a top-of-the-line product but still a nice speaker, I knew that it would not be the absolute best. It looks very similar to the older ones, except made in China to B&W spec instead of by B&W themselves in England.
Went to Best Buy with a friend to listen and compare speakers. We had him shut off subwoofers because we just wanted to compare speakers. We were blown away by the Bowers & Wilkins 685 S2 bookshelf speakers. They sounded better than a $2,000 pair of Martin Logan's. I now have them in my living room and they sound fantastic.
very nice quality mid driver!! alot of xmax for this kind of driver. good basket. cabinet also has some bracing and the tweeter is also good. And quite a big decent crossover. b&w knows there stuff!
@@notagunfreak8146 driver depth or break-in have nothing to do with Xmax. Geometrical Xmax is just a difference between the height of the voice coil and height of the magnetic gap, or in other words how much the cone can travel with magnetic gap still fully filled by the voice coil. Cone can of course travel more, but that's not within the Xmax anymore, higher excursion means higher distortion and different parameters/driver behaviour.
TBH, I am shocked when see that crossover. Only first order and no impedance correction, maybe for US$ 100 price range is OK but B&W is not cheap as far as I know.
@@sidmorrison6245 Almost every speaker brand is made in china! svs, klipsch, jbl, sonos, quadral, b&w, b&c. So stop complaining. So even high end speakers (most of the high end speakers) are made in china you donkey!
Not all of them. Klipsch and B&W are made/assembled in Chincland, but not European companies like Focal for example. All made and assembled in Frogland: th-cam.com/video/EpIqGrrXcj8/w-d-xo.html
They've gone from the 2nd order x-over on the 600S3 series to a cheaper 1st order, with just a single inductor on the woofer and a single cap on the tweeter. 1st order has it's advantages as far as phase, but since it has a lot more overlap between drivers, it can cause problems in getting smooth response in that region. And even with the 1st orde crossover, they still have a huge dip in the midrange. Very poorly designed, from a company that used to be good. Now they charge more for a worse product just because of the name. You can get much better for less money from KEF or Wharfedale, as well as others
These look like overpriced crap TBH... First order "crossover", terrible dispersion characteristics and a frequency response that would make a 1980s boombox blush. I'd take a Jbl arena or studio over these any day of the week.
It actually does, as it improves transition to the baffle, provides damping if needed, allows assemblers to check the amount of stuffing inside the nautilus tube
Но ведь по оригинальным B&W технологиям 1 в 1 ! Производство в Китае дешевле, поэтому собирают там. Многие крутые фирмы перебираются в Китай ради меньших затрат на производство и сборку. Стереотип о том, что если китайское, значит хреновое, давно пора оставить в 90х !
Awesome video! B&Ws really do put a lot of detail in there speakers. Even for their entry level models, they have lots of technology going on. Also nice to see they make their own drivers.
A great video. A chance to see inside a prospective purchase, and something I’d never be game to do if I’d spent those sorts of dollars. A good speaker at that price point. Thank you for the look inside.
Great speakers I have a set and enjoy them daily. Nice to see the inner workings.
Thanks for doing this. Really is interesting to see what is inside the box. I'm surprised to see 4 ohms speaker..!?
I am wondering how the plastic front is attached to the wooden cabinet. Did you have a look at that? Thinking about rebuilding them to upfire speakers to match the rest..
I really like your videos about disassembling! I would like to ask whether there will be a video on disassembly Presonus Eris 5?
Thanks bro
Awesome video
for such high price , no magnet grill.
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Can’t tell if the speaker basket is plastic or cast metal? The cone and magnet did look nice, and nice to see the adequate venting. Being that this is not a top-of-the-line product but still a nice speaker, I knew that it would not be the absolute best. It looks very similar to the older ones, except made in China to B&W spec instead of by B&W themselves in England.
Went to Best Buy with a friend to listen and compare speakers. We had him shut off subwoofers because we just wanted to compare speakers. We were blown away by the Bowers & Wilkins 685 S2 bookshelf speakers. They sounded better than a $2,000 pair of Martin Logan's. I now have them in my living room and they sound fantastic.
How to purchased the speaker
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Decent, but I would use second order xo. The woofer must play to high and likely beams.
Not surprising their bright .5 of an Ohm put a 1 ohm resistor would be better or you could put a cap across the other cap to ground 0.47uF
very nice quality mid driver!! alot of xmax for this kind of driver. good basket. cabinet also has some bracing and the tweeter is also good. And quite a big decent crossover. b&w knows there stuff!
I don't really see a lot of xmax there, VC looks pretty short. 3-4mm one way Xmax isn't anything out of the ordinary at this size
@@tomkocur apparently these speakers have about 8 mm of max xmax!
when they are broken in. Also the driver is very deep for that size!
@@notagunfreak8146 driver depth or break-in have nothing to do with Xmax. Geometrical Xmax is just a difference between the height of the voice coil and height of the magnetic gap, or in other words how much the cone can travel with magnetic gap still fully filled by the voice coil.
Cone can of course travel more, but that's not within the Xmax anymore, higher excursion means higher distortion and different parameters/driver behaviour.
Cheap material, but high on price.. You must try epos m12i or m12.2👍
How do these stack up against the b&w s686 s1 ?
At least the driver basket isn't stamped steel.
TBH, I am shocked when see that crossover. Only first order and no impedance correction, maybe for US$ 100 price range is OK but B&W is not cheap as far as I know.
These English speakers have a very well built construction. I liked the video.
These English speakers - MADE IN CHINA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😨😩😰
@@sidmorrison6245 Almost every speaker brand is made in china!
svs, klipsch, jbl, sonos, quadral, b&w, b&c. So stop complaining.
So even high end speakers (most of the high end speakers) are made in china you donkey!
@@notagunfreak8146 , yes , l know .
@@sidmorrison6245 Why are you complaining then?
the best!
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I missed the RGB inside :,) so sad.
Was tweeter wired out of phase ?
+ and - wires were reversed?
Yes that’s normal. Second order crossover tweeter polarity must be reversed.
B&W diagram does not show a revers of polarity on previous gen of this speaker...
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@@nikvikviknik Не знаю я такого языка.
Except for the crossover, it seem like B&W got cheaper.
it is a first order crossover and that is all, cheaper, cheaper, cheaper
@@animalmuppetmonster664 ...and so the frequency response is terrible.
*It's only the brand. But speakers are manufactured in China*
Not all of them. Klipsch and B&W are made/assembled in Chincland, but not European companies like Focal for example. All made and assembled in Frogland:
th-cam.com/video/EpIqGrrXcj8/w-d-xo.html
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Remember B&W's advert during the 1990s boasting "...the voice coils of God..."? Probably doesn't apply at this price range?
They've gone from the 2nd order x-over on the 600S3 series to a cheaper 1st order, with just a single inductor on the woofer and a single cap on the tweeter. 1st order has it's advantages as far as phase, but since it has a lot more overlap between drivers, it can cause problems in getting smooth response in that region. And even with the 1st orde crossover, they still have a huge dip in the midrange. Very poorly designed, from a company that used to be good. Now they charge more for a worse product just because of the name. You can get much better for less money from KEF or Wharfedale, as well as others
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B&W only branded name, not same again with GB product
Made in China, but looks nice quality inside.
китайское это как и российское - зря потраченные деньги.
100%
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Drivers were made in China ? Surprised
B&W stellt doch kaum noch was in England her. Meine CM9S2 ist auch aus China. "Made in England" gilt glaube nur noch für die High-End Produkte.
B&W is a chinese owned company.
Hans Schlenstedt really I didn’t know that , for how long ?
@@MrStingraybernard I don`t know it exactly.
@K/D Audio Thank you.
B&W best laudspeaker brand ever
Ja. Made in China
All made in china,and pricing is german
These look like overpriced crap TBH... First order "crossover", terrible dispersion characteristics and a frequency response that would make a 1980s boombox blush. I'd take a Jbl arena or studio over these any day of the week.
I have Jbl es90 and sound are crap compared to my b&w dm 603 s3 and my brother¨s Dali icon 7
agree. i love videos pulling apart these "high end" speakers. those big white sand resistors tell you everything!
@@666Necropsy many speakers use these. I doubt anyone can really tell the difference if there even is one, if they don't get to see what is connected.
Made in China?4 Ohm?
Thanks a lot.no way I will buy this.i prefare old school B&W that are made in England
As if that is any better.
@@indigobaloon8091 it's really not. It's the same really. Though their much older models probably measured better in frequency response
china
So?
*sent from their device which is made in China
all that plastic from china makes it sound better.
It actually does, as it improves transition to the baffle, provides damping if needed, allows assemblers to check the amount of stuffing inside the nautilus tube
Nike - Made in Vietnam, so what?
Пластик корзина.Тонкие ножки.Отстой!
Ножки тонкие скорее всего, чтобы уменьшить сопротивление...
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With condensator AC fan....!
Oh Lord....
Зачем покупать с китайскими динамиками? Цена таким колонкам $ 50.
Но ведь по оригинальным B&W технологиям 1 в 1 ! Производство в Китае дешевле, поэтому собирают там. Многие крутые фирмы перебираются в Китай ради меньших затрат на производство и сборку. Стереотип о том, что если китайское, значит хреновое, давно пора оставить в 90х !
Ow yikes! Made in china.... not buying this , i rhought its from u.k.
Made in china. And no i dont want to buy anything made in china.
Where is your phone and computer made from?
@@yuzhang1254 indonesia. Got problem with that???