Always much more entertaining, and reminds us of our first cars, i.e. old bangers. Much more relatable than some shiny italian spaceship that most of us wont even see on the roads haha, booring!
Same, i'm bored with TH-camrs and Lamborghinis. Who cares anymore?. It's like me at Italian car shows nowadays, Ferrari after Ferrari meets Lamborghini after Maseratti... yawn. Then somebody arrives is a diesel Fiat Regatta estate and i'm giddy 😂
Or perhaps more precisely, fitting one ! It could keep the engine hotter and radiator colder - so the engine runs at the correct temperature and rad cooling fan doesn't need to run excessively !
I always like paying attention to the wipers and indicators and all the little details in cars, everyone I know find that weird. I love you love to take a look at those details
Cooling fan doing its job. Wouldn’t recommend disabling it, could blow head gasket with heat buildup. Similar reasoning for idling a bit with a turbo, distributes heat.
It could be the fan should keep running with the key out,to dissipate localised heat. I had a Kawasaki bike that done the same thing,disconcerting until I found out it was normal.
Yes, you're quite right, it is far from unusual for the cooling fan of a modern car to run after the car is shut down and the ignition key removed. This could, perhaps, be a warning sign that the issue with the low temperature gauge reading is actually a faulty sender and that the engine is running up to temperature. My reasoning being that a lot of vehicles use different temperature senders to operate the gauge and the cooling fan...
I remember these coming in for the first time when working at an MG/Rover dealer. We had a good look around it, as we hadn't seen one before, and one of the sales chaps said to the managing director "we're in trouble, aren't we". I remembered those prophetic words some months later when we got the news that Rover was going into liquidation. And that is why I've never liked the City Rover. I blame it for Rover's demise.
I once bought a Xsara picasso. The head gasket went on my Volvo V40, and I went out and bought the closest sub £500 car there was which turned out to be a xsara picasso. The car impressed me. Yes I had the basic model, with no air con, and the 1.6 engine, but I ended up keeping it 5 years only selling it because myself and the missus had cars which fit our lifestyles better. They are surprisingly good cars.
Absolutely the opposite of Top Gear . I love Hub Nut for this. So many thanks Ian 👍can't afford to be a patroen I'm afraid but some of your merch will be on my birthday and Christmas list ❤️
That's my kind of day out, nice video. I was a mechanic at a Rover dealership when these came out. Water pump had failed before it had made it off the transporter. Good old days.
When you showed the Picasso I though there had been a break in the time/space continuum - as I watched the live reveal last week. Feeling rather relieved and slightly disappointed now.
It is up to the seller to provide an up to date log book - no log book = no sale. As has already been discussed (at length, unfortunately!) Top Gear really ripped into the CityRover. It will be interesting to see if you can prove them wrong. 👍🏻 You have the advantage of actually knowing more about cars than any of them ever did.
Nice to see an unbiased opinion on such cars. I despise the fashion for slagging cars off because the motoring press are like sheep and no-one likes likes to break the mould. I take each car on its merits. I deliver cars for a living and last car I drove was a 2 and a half year old Audi A4 and I thought it was a pile of overrated, overpriced crap. I have a penchant for the underdog and underrated.
If she was running a bit hot (regardless of the temp gauge) the car is relatively : new' then the fan would run even after the ignition is off,in order to get down to temp
A stuck open thermostat makes the engine run cooler. But the temp. sender is normally on the cylinder water jacket, so a stuck open thermostat will not lead to the sensor sending a cold signal when the engine is hot. Either the temp. sender is faulty(unlikely) or he has electrical gremlins in the fan circuit.
Oh how I miss the 125's screaming and throbbing Paxman-Valenta engines! Quite often commuter trains don't have wheel-set bogies that allow them to castor as the train moves around corners. This forces the wheels to slide and slip on the rails, generating the horrible squeal.
Simple frill free transport for people who do not have a image problem to feel happy about life . £200 will most likely buy you a new tailpipe trim for a upmarket german car .
@@TheRealD4 the citreon was a popular motability veichle. If you mean the rover well they just didn't sell did they 😂. No sarcasm I had a rover 100/metro it was a bag of shit tbh
On the topic of Tata's I had a mate at school in the early 2000's who's Dad was a very proud Indian nationalist and was proud to buy Indian cars, he had both a Tata Safari and Tata Loadbeta, they were both utterly dreadful.
It was mainly build quality really. The engines were solid enough as they were old Peugeot lumps but it was just a feeling of being unsafe and if everything was going to fall apart around you. Which especially when you're 12 isn't exactly comforting.
Had the same issue with my Mazda 6. Would get up to temperature in normal traffic, but as soon as you got on the motorway the temp plummeted. New thermostat fitted and hasn't been an issue since. Improves the fuel economy as well!
Only ever been a passenger in one and I loved it. So much space and glass and quite comfortable. Perfect Hubnut car, although having no logbook would put me right off the one he tried to buy. Lucky escape there as that car was probably abused through neglect.
@@terryatkinson899 i bought a toyota yaris without any paperwork and had no issues to be fair , the mot could be found online and i paid the 25 quid to put it in my name , the only hassle was being unable to tax it until the v5 came in post which was just under 3 weeks . Although i dont advocate everyone doing this , taking due diligence is a must , but in my case the seller lived a mile away and the car was known in the area im living
@@Oldsmobile69 Na, theyre just like any other car , its all down to the owners , if they get run t the ground they,ll fall apart, if they get looked after they run well
@@terryatkinson899 It's the trailing arm bearing that collapses, the problem is that by the time you can see the fault the bearing is toast and the axle tube is knackered. Putting a complete secondhand axle is a cheap easy fix......but it's probably nearly as knackered as the one you take off! That all said, we had a Xsara Picasso which was an awesome workhorse, sad to see it go with only 139,000 miles on the clock.
Rover imported these from Tata, doubled the price, and sold them as Rovers. The Fiat and Ford Fiesta were better built and less expensive. Those are legitimate reasons to not like a car. Ford did the same thing with Merkur in the 80's. The Ford Sierra is a perfectly fine car. Merkur took the same car, added a 50% premium, and touted it as a BMW competitor. Critics were not kind, and for good reason. A Ford Sierra is not a 3 series BMW.
The Picasso was bad example of an excellent car. Hope you get one in the end as it offers you options the rest of your fleet can't and i'm guessing many a HubNut follower has one.. Good luck with the Rover .
Percival Poxcock The Picasso has never been a excellent car as people carriers go I’d rather own a ford galaxy or a Vauxhall zafira much better then Citroen Picasso
5 Minute Man to be fair I work in a garage and all the ones I’ve ever driven have been horrible With the worst gear change ever and the most uncomfortable seats ever
@@bmwman1981 You steer clear of them and and I will leave all of the BMW's for you and I'll throw in the Vauxhall zafira's for you as well 😀 If you do work in a garage I understand why you wouldn't like Xsara Picasso's. Not much going wrong for you to fix. The later C4 Picasso is far less reliable however.
Percival Poxcock every sh#treon I’ve ever worked has been a pile of scrap .the french put silly torx screws in daft places fit shocking auto box’s in underpowered diesels and the fit and finish with bad electrics . Yes the vauxhall zafira has it own set of faults but they are cheap to fix easy to fix and a lot better drive then a soggy Citroen
Guy I worked with had one, but he got shot of it. Reason being, that everytime it needed a part. Said part had to come from India, often putting the car off the road for weeks. He did like the car though, just got frustrated with the parts situation.
Yeah, refusing that picasso was a good choice, as cars without proper log books can cause serious problems, up to and including having it confiscated by the police as it could very well have been nicked.
@@TomAlter1000 a logbook loan isn't a normal car finance loan, it is a loan where the financier takes the V5 of the car as collateral for a loan and charges a high interest rate. much the same ilk as quickquid, wonga et al..
My X type Jag runs the fan after ignition off, turned out to be normal after a long drive, don't worry about it but I would definitely change the stat.
I remember about 15 years ago we needed a pair of rear wheel bearings for one of these. It took 3 weeks to get them because the dealer had to get them from India, when they came they were in the usual MG rover box and the races had made in UK engraved into them.
For the height of idiocacy, I've come across German products in Germany packaged in German packaging printed in Germany for the German market - so nearly everything in German - except "Made in Germany" Seen similar thing with printed stuff - all in the local language except "Printed in...."
I recently bought a Volvo 480 ES for € 250 which was a pretty good car with six months of MOT left. It had some rust issues (bad accident damage repair in the wheel arch), needed a bit of tlc (none of them would be an MOT fail) and was screaming for a full service (brake fluid like coffee and cambelt 3 years overdue) and it also had a faulty thermostat, but it was so much fun to drive and even had 20 litres of petrol in the tank :-) Buying a generally unloved car (so unloved I have had five of them, LOL) that is fun to drive for so little money and being able to fix issues myself is what makes this petrolhead happy.
@@kevinjohnson1958 Yep my 1991 Jeta Turbo Diesel intercooler 1.6 does the same stuff when you turn the car off, Thermostat have been changed few months ago and its brand new so nothing wrong with it probably a engineering design, and it does turn the fan on quite often while hot or just in summer generally...
The cooling fan running post shutdown is perfectly normal - and is a feature designed to reduce "heatsoak" The fan will cut out when the temperature drops to a predetermined level.
Nice to see the subscriptions numbers steadily rising Ian. Well done for producing a thoroughly entertaining channel. I prefer the peace of mind that my newish supermini provides, but I do enjoy watching your exploits with older cars. Reminds me of my brother in his early days of car ownership. Never a dull moment.
Did you leave it for a few minutes? The fan may stay on a few minutes after running which may be normal, chances are the fan is controlled by a different temperature switch to the gauge.
Fan is controlled by the fan switch in the rad and gauge by a senior in the block as far as I know. Although it will be interesting to see how things work out this being a diesel converted to petrol built by Indians and sold to Hubnut.... He should have left the fan running to see how long til it stops as it's probably normal.
I like this one. She looks quite nice, and seems maybe there is nothing fundamentally wrong. So a good deal, and good entertainment whilst you sort out the glitches.
Although it was inevitable for so many years, it’s sad to see Longbridge with the factory gone and all this modern non-industrial cobblers appearing in its place.
A great caper 👍 Good old British industry always to little to late. I wish second hand car were as cheap here in NZ becaus we have always paid way to much.
@@matty6848 afraid so people here still have the idea that we are a long way from the rest of the world so prices stay high. E.G. 25year old Toyota Land cruiser with high mileage 18,000 NZD
CauliflowerMcPugg I think your right there. I’ve been to Australia but not NZ however my cousin lives in NZ and pretty much describes the same to me that NZ almost has a inferiority complex about itself and standing on the world tech stage which is daft of course because NZ is up there with any nation👍🏻
Although we have several Rover dealers here in Southern California, I don’t think this car was ever sold here. As other people have commented, on some vehicles, the fan will stay on for a short while with the engine off, I’ve had motorcycles that did it.
I've seen an urban exploration video hete on YT in which some guys entered an old Rover plant. Inside were still a number of brand new Rover cars legt to collect dust. Some had a bright yellow paintjob. I doubt anyone can get those cars registered for a license plate and ownership documents.
@Sam Eyers yeah, you're right. They were resold by motapoint IIRC for a few grand less than they were sold at by rover (the price they ought to have been sold at)
Had a Toyota Tercel with a leaky tank, only took half so was forced to carry a can at all times. Wish I still had it. Cheapest I bought £50 for a type 2 VW bus with twin sliding doors, towed it back and started it with ten minutes of key twiddling. £25 worth of welding and two brake pipes and through a test. Wish I still had it. Cheapest with a test and tax, £90 for a FSO Polenz. Wish I still had it. Cheers
I've done that. The black Astra SPORT you saw me in at the meet in The Lakes was a car I paid £200 for. It wasn't in as good a state as it is now, but moderate spending & determination pays off. It's bloody quick since I had the new clutch fitted.
At last! Someone else that buys a motor sight unseen. ...we are in need of professional help. I still regret the 55plate Kelisa after a drunken Ebay click.
I never buy cars unseen but when I arrive I've basically made up my mind it's coming home with me. Bought a few lemons over the years but I do love tinkering (the wife calls it playing). Still better than spending it in the pub.
I've only bought one car unseen, a £250 Chevrolet Matiz yesterday off a certain online auction site, but I've always made up my mind within seconds of seeing a car.
Ian, if the car has an ecu/emu it could be a problem with the coolant temperature sensor. If the sensor is a bit sus and sending spurious inputs to the ecu/emu it may decide that it can't trust the reading and to safeguard the engine turn the fans on becauseit could be hot. Then when you turn the car off it keeps the fans on for a period to cool the engine down. Good luck
HUBNUT, WHAT IS GOING ON YOU ARE GETTING BETTER LOOKING EVERY VIDEO, A VIDEO ON YOUR DAILY GROOMING RITUAL PLEASE, NO I AM NOT GAY, BUT A LIGHT SUPPER AND A RIDE OUT IN ONE OF YOUR CARS, AND WHO KNOWS, NO PROMISES THOUGH.
Looks like you dodged a bullet by walking away from the Citroen If you ever have any nagging doubts about a car no matter how much it is or what a great deal you think it is just walk away Trust your gut
The cooling fan on my 2013 Ford Fiesta ran after switching off on two occasions... one time after a spirited drive over a hill that got up to about 1500 feet, and another time after a congested traffic drive on a hot day (38 celsius) It's normal for a lot of cars, and more so for ones built for tropical climates, like a TATA. That's why there are warning labels about the fans running at any time, and it's recommended that the battery be disconnected when working under the bonnet
Cool video. Some of the mk2 or facelift or whatever you want to call them did actually sneak in to the country. They were all purchased by a big car supermarket and sold off as new cars with a 3 year warranty.
For one awful moment I thought I was suffering a reality inversion and you had actually bought the Picasso not the Rover ! Phew what a relief. Forgotten camera mounts replaced by a seat wedgie instead - brilliant and typical HubNut. Best 25 minutes of a bank holiday Monday ever.
Hi Ian I'm lay in bed just watching you drive past my old senior school on the Bristol rd as you were heading to the m5 I now live in Yeovil and am astonished to see my old stomping grounds on one of your brilliant collection capers what a small world we truly live in hey? Keep up the excellent videos mate awesome stuff .
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Hi Hub, I find your addiction for buying awful cars truly inspiring.
John Spencer they aren’t awful they’re just full of character
@@co_nut_co_nut and body filler :)
Percival Poxcock thats what makes character,the little things making it imperfect
@@co_nut_co_nut This one is awful though
Yes, it's funny that there are people who actually pay money for such cars
I like these cars better then youtubers flexing with their lamborghini's
Damn right.
Those dreadful willie extensions always make me laugh when I witness their owners trying to negotiate speed humps.
I agree, Love Hubnut videos because he shows normal/basic and also underrated cars and also their problems.
These are just so fun to watch.
Always much more entertaining, and reminds us of our first cars, i.e. old bangers. Much more relatable than some shiny italian spaceship that most of us wont even see on the roads haha, booring!
Same, i'm bored with TH-camrs and Lamborghinis. Who cares anymore?. It's like me at Italian car shows nowadays, Ferrari after Ferrari meets Lamborghini after Maseratti... yawn. Then somebody arrives is a diesel Fiat Regatta estate and i'm giddy 😂
My in laws had a City Rover. I was promised it if I passed my test. No one was more pleased than I was to fail!
Loved the comment, ‘very excited about collecting my dismal new car’. People are very snobby about cars (and other things) - it’s depressing.
Might not be anything wrong with the fan quite a few cars run the fan on once they have stopped.
Our Renault 21 did that.
Alan Lansdell so did my Polo TDI
...and our Volkswagen Vento.
And on the Cityrover it is the fan for indian climate. ;)
... and my Peugeots as well.
yep my 2009 audi a4 does that, only does it when i drive quite a long distance without turning the engine off, after 5 minutes it turns off
Many cars have the cooling fan run once the engine is stopped if its hot enough. I would make changing the thermostat a priority though 👍
Or perhaps more precisely, fitting one ! It could keep the engine hotter and radiator colder - so the engine runs at the correct temperature and rad cooling fan doesn't need to run excessively !
I think that car used to belong to the one and only, Mr Ronnie Pickering.
I always like paying attention to the wipers and indicators and all the little details in cars, everyone I know find that weird.
I love you love to take a look at those details
Cooling fan doing its job. Wouldn’t recommend disabling it, could blow head gasket with heat buildup. Similar reasoning for idling a bit with a turbo, distributes heat.
It could be the fan should keep running with the key out,to dissipate localised heat. I had a Kawasaki bike that done the same thing,disconcerting until I found out it was normal.
Yes, you're quite right, it is far from unusual for the cooling fan of a modern car to run after the car is shut down and the ignition key removed. This could, perhaps, be a warning sign that the issue with the low temperature gauge reading is actually a faulty sender and that the engine is running up to temperature. My reasoning being that a lot of vehicles use different temperature senders to operate the gauge and the cooling fan...
good thought
@@Oldsmobile69 I seem to recall my dad's audi's did this. He hd a couple of coupes in the '80s so this is going back a bit.
@@davidmg1925 Seem to remember the same thing from various cars of the early 90s!
Is there any chance that Xsara Picasso was owned by Ronnie Pickering?
Who?
😂
ClaudeSac
Ronnie bloody Pickering 😂
@@jamiemorris5177 WHO?
Percival Poxcock
Ronnie bloody Pickering 🤬🤬😂
Do you know who I am?!?!??
I remember these coming in for the first time when working at an MG/Rover dealer. We had a good look around it, as we hadn't seen one before, and one of the sales chaps said to the managing director "we're in trouble, aren't we". I remembered those prophetic words some months later when we got the news that Rover was going into liquidation. And that is why I've never liked the City Rover. I blame it for Rover's demise.
I once bought a Xsara picasso. The head gasket went on my Volvo V40, and I went out and bought the closest sub £500 car there was which turned out to be a xsara picasso.
The car impressed me. Yes I had the basic model, with no air con, and the 1.6 engine, but I ended up keeping it 5 years only selling it because myself and the missus had cars which fit our lifestyles better. They are surprisingly good cars.
I've seen a few people starting up channels on here trying to be hub nut they just can't do it keep up the good work best channel on here by far
Aaron Jewsbury truth! I thoroughly enjoy Hub Nut videos
Ah you have watched irritating "Furious Driving"
I actually preferred the squeaking windscreen wipers to the hideous music from the radio.
ditto
That was not music. That sounded like some Islamic garbage.
@@paulparoma that is not a nice thing to say about somebody religion show some respect.
That trash ! So called music is #1 among USA youth....
You mean Zara Larsson?
Absolutely the opposite of Top Gear . I love Hub Nut for this. So many thanks Ian 👍can't afford to be a patroen I'm afraid but some of your merch will be on my birthday and Christmas list ❤️
That's my kind of day out, nice video. I was a mechanic at a Rover dealership when these came out. Water pump had failed before it had made it off the transporter. Good old days.
When you showed the Picasso I though there had been a break in the time/space continuum - as I watched the live reveal last week. Feeling rather relieved and slightly disappointed now.
Just cooling the engine down after your drive, my car does that all the time...nothing to worry about!
Yes perfectly normal and especially in this very hot weather.
It is up to the seller to provide an up to date log book - no log book = no sale. As has already been discussed (at length, unfortunately!) Top Gear really ripped into the CityRover. It will be interesting to see if you can prove them wrong. 👍🏻 You have the advantage of actually knowing more about cars than any of them ever did.
Nice to see an unbiased opinion on such cars. I despise the fashion for slagging cars off because the motoring press are like sheep and no-one likes likes to break the mould. I take each car on its merits. I deliver cars for a living and last car I drove was a 2 and a half year old Audi A4 and I thought it was a pile of overrated, overpriced crap. I have a penchant for the underdog and underrated.
If she was running a bit hot (regardless of the temp gauge) the car is relatively : new' then the fan would run even after the ignition is off,in order to get down to temp
Many others must have said by now... a lot of cars have the cooling fan run on when the ignition is off.
We had a 2005 Fiat Panda in 2008-9, a cracking car that I still miss
Good stuff Ian.....'A Collection caper' always peaks my interest!......Much more fun than all that globetrotting you did recently!....lol
Am buying a City Rover (Select) tomorrow, Only bidder! MOT ran out in September though, I might be in trouble .
Still.....£150, shouldn’t complain
Fan's probably running cos it's hot, but thermostat issues makes the gauge say it's cold, oh the joys of water-cooled engines... :P
It's probably a short in the thermistor circuit that turns on the fan when it's getting too hot.
My dads rover 75 will run the fans if it’s hot after a long journey to cool the engine off
A stuck open thermostat makes the engine run cooler. But the temp. sender is normally on the cylinder water jacket, so a stuck open thermostat will not lead to the sensor sending a cold signal when the engine is hot. Either the temp. sender is faulty(unlikely) or he has electrical gremlins in the fan circuit.
the traws cymru bus was an optare metrocity and the silver coach was a volvo jonckheere
"Nice, quiet electric train...."
As it pulls away making an absolutely awful screeching noise. 😂
That's the track's fault for having curves in it 😉
I've seen a few rail-biased videos - people banging on about electrification - yet they still can't fix brake and rail squeal !
Oh how I miss the 125's screaming and throbbing Paxman-Valenta engines! Quite often commuter trains don't have wheel-set bogies that allow them to castor as the train moves around corners. This forces the wheels to slide and slip on the rails, generating the horrible squeal.
@@Zadster It's the steering effort of the conical wheels not being great enough to steer quickly enough round tight cornerrrs !
@@millomweb I think the noise was coming from the electronic motor controller.
Simple frill free transport for people who do not have a image problem to feel happy about life . £200 will most likely buy you a new tailpipe trim for a upmarket german car .
How time flys I remember when these were new and everybody was raving about them. Alot of them were motability cars
Is this sarcasm? As in nobody was raving about them and they'd be as useful for motability as a dwarf in a Cozy Coupe?
@@TheRealD4 the citreon was a popular motability veichle. If you mean the rover well they just didn't sell did they 😂. No sarcasm I had a rover 100/metro it was a bag of shit tbh
You look 10 years younger with that new hair cut😎
“They’ve re-badged it Lynn!”
You could keep Peartree Productions running with a skeleton staff ..
I remember selling these brand new! I’m MG Rover through and through, but did struggle to find a good selling point about them!!
On the topic of Tata's I had a mate at school in the early 2000's who's Dad was a very proud Indian nationalist and was proud to buy Indian cars, he had both a Tata Safari and Tata Loadbeta, they were both utterly dreadful.
The loadbeta has severe Mercedes 190 vibes. How very very odd.
Oh please do reveal their dreadful details. Or was it just minor things like wheels falling off?
It was mainly build quality really. The engines were solid enough as they were old Peugeot lumps but it was just a feeling of being unsafe and if everything was going to fall apart around you. Which especially when you're 12 isn't exactly comforting.
Tata Safari's production has been stopped now and will no longer be produced with the new BS6 norms
@@rickeymohan8972 tata safari came back
Love the blue sun tint Across the screen all cars should have these
Glad you didn't go for the Xsara Picasso. The City Rover is much more hubnut.
Had the same issue with my Mazda 6. Would get up to temperature in normal traffic, but as soon as you got on the motorway the temp plummeted. New thermostat fitted and hasn't been an issue since. Improves the fuel economy as well!
zxara picasso is a very capable cheap mpv , had one for 5 yrs, only needed a coil pack and a small sill weld before i let it go for too cheap a price
Only ever been a passenger in one and I loved it. So much space and glass and quite comfortable. Perfect Hubnut car, although having no logbook would put me right off the one he tried to buy. Lucky escape there as that car was probably abused through neglect.
@@terryatkinson899 i bought a toyota yaris without any paperwork and had no issues to be fair , the mot could be found online and i paid the 25 quid to put it in my name , the only hassle was being unable to tax it until the v5 came in post which was just under 3 weeks .
Although i dont advocate everyone doing this , taking due diligence is a must , but in my case the seller lived a mile away and the car was known in the area im living
@@Oldsmobile69 Na, theyre just like any other car , its all down to the owners , if they get run t the ground they,ll fall apart, if they get looked after they run well
@@Oldsmobile69 probably the torsion bar snapping which is a straightforward repair.
@@terryatkinson899 It's the trailing arm bearing that collapses, the problem is that by the time you can see the fault the bearing is toast and the axle tube is knackered. Putting a complete secondhand axle is a cheap easy fix......but it's probably nearly as knackered as the one you take off! That all said, we had a Xsara Picasso which was an awesome workhorse, sad to see it go with only 139,000 miles on the clock.
I knew a bloke who bought one brand new , within a year the exhaust fell off at the front , you could here it coming. Your a brave man Ian !
17:54 Pretty sure that's the truck from Duel.
Talk about pollution!
Rover imported these from Tata, doubled the price, and sold them as Rovers. The Fiat and Ford Fiesta were better built and less expensive. Those are legitimate reasons to not like a car. Ford did the same thing with Merkur in the 80's. The Ford Sierra is a perfectly fine car. Merkur took the same car, added a 50% premium, and touted it as a BMW competitor. Critics were not kind, and for good reason. A Ford Sierra is not a 3 series BMW.
The Picasso was bad example of an excellent car. Hope you get one in the end as it offers you options the rest of your fleet can't and i'm guessing many a HubNut follower has one.. Good luck with the Rover .
Percival Poxcock The Picasso has never been a excellent car as people carriers go I’d rather own a ford galaxy or a Vauxhall zafira much better then Citroen Picasso
Ours lasted years and gave up at 160k. Probably most reliable car ive owned in 25 years. Never be seen in one again though 😀
5 Minute Man to be fair I work in a garage and all the ones I’ve ever driven have been horrible With the worst gear change ever and the most uncomfortable seats ever
@@bmwman1981 You steer clear of them and and I will leave all of the BMW's for you and I'll throw in the Vauxhall zafira's for you as well 😀 If you do work in a garage I understand why you wouldn't like Xsara Picasso's. Not much going wrong for you to fix. The later C4 Picasso is far less reliable however.
Percival Poxcock every sh#treon I’ve ever worked has been a pile of scrap .the french put silly torx screws in daft places fit shocking auto box’s in underpowered diesels and the fit and finish with bad electrics . Yes the vauxhall zafira has it own set of faults but they are cheap to fix easy to fix and a lot better drive then a soggy Citroen
I've got a Citroen Berlingo. It uses the ECU to decide whether to run the fan. This brilliant system stopped working about 5 years ago
I'd love to see a hubnut review on the Fiat Multipla, a car far more clever than it initially appears
Good car and very practical. Not keen on the styling of the face lifted model though.
Ugly but a good family car.....
Guy I worked with had one, but he got shot of it. Reason being, that everytime it needed a part. Said part had to come from India, often putting the car off the road for weeks. He did like the car though, just got frustrated with the parts situation.
some cars the fan runs till temp has dropped after the key is removed bud or u poss have a dodgy fan switch temp sensor
They make the new TATA safari
is way better. TATA has come a long way from that time.
Ian, love your slightly sarcastic style to things, and wise about the Picasso..
Hubnut, the only channel where you’ll see a man excited about a City Rover
Hi Ian the critics are all badge snobs I would never buy a car that a critic recommends keep up the good work you are the best of the rest
£200 is nearing the upper end of my usual budget range.
And no it's not a good idea.
HubNut increases the second hand value of the City Rover by 200%
When he filled the petrol tank he immediately doubled the car’s value😀
I currently am running a 1'6 Xsara Picasso, 120k a full years MoT, good tyres, everything works, it is 2007 and I bought mine for £230
Yeah, refusing that picasso was a good choice, as cars without proper log books can cause serious problems, up to and including having it confiscated by the police as it could very well have been nicked.
Yes I could understand where you're coming from, but who the hell would want to nick a 1.6 nfu engine xsara Picasso???
Also could mean there's a log book loan on the car, the finance company can repossess it.
@@TomAlter1000 a logbook loan isn't a normal car finance loan, it is a loan where the financier takes the V5 of the car as collateral for a loan and charges a high interest rate. much the same ilk as quickquid, wonga et al..
We had a school trip to Longbridge in the late 90s. The streets look familiar but it appears a lot less Rovery
I like the head restraint view its the best yet . lol
My X type Jag runs the fan after ignition off, turned out to be normal after a long drive, don't worry about it but I would definitely change the stat.
Speaking as an aforementioned ‘short arse’ I thank you for the shout out! 😂👍
Short arses have rights Derek🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
@@matty6848 😂😂
Shortarses of the world unite!
Robert B at 6ft I’m no short arse but I stand united with my short arse brothers. Short arses have souls god damn it🤣🤣🤣
Picasso's you can carry a C90 in the back
I remember about 15 years ago we needed a pair of rear wheel bearings for one of these. It took 3 weeks to get them because the dealer had to get them from India, when they came they were in the usual MG rover box and the races had made in UK engraved into them.
For the height of idiocacy, I've come across German products in Germany packaged in German packaging printed in Germany for the German market - so nearly everything in German - except "Made in Germany"
Seen similar thing with printed stuff - all in the local language except "Printed in...."
I recently bought a Volvo 480 ES for € 250 which was a pretty good car with six months of MOT left. It had some rust issues (bad accident damage repair in the wheel arch), needed a bit of tlc (none of them would be an MOT fail) and was screaming for a full service (brake fluid like coffee and cambelt 3 years overdue) and it also had a faulty thermostat, but it was so much fun to drive and even had 20 litres of petrol in the tank :-) Buying a generally unloved car (so unloved I have had five of them, LOL) that is fun to drive for so little money and being able to fix issues myself is what makes this petrolhead happy.
My 1.6 golf cooling fans run for a few minutes after taking the key out on a hot day
Amistech1995 I was just telling the wife I'm sure my old VW Jetta did the same thing.
Most vw Audi do
It’s normal
@@kevinjohnson1958 Yep my 1991 Jeta Turbo Diesel intercooler 1.6 does the same stuff when you turn the car off, Thermostat have been changed few months ago and its brand new so nothing wrong with it probably a engineering design, and it does turn the fan on quite often while hot or just in summer generally...
The cooling fan running post shutdown is perfectly normal - and is a feature designed to reduce "heatsoak" The fan will cut out when the temperature drops to a predetermined level.
Not when the rad is actually cold...
@@HubNut Depends where the sensor is sensing from - generally the block, which will be hot probably regardless of rad temp.
how did i get here..and how am i still watching after 12 mins??
Nice to see the subscriptions numbers steadily rising Ian. Well done for producing a thoroughly entertaining channel. I prefer the peace of mind that my newish supermini provides, but I do enjoy watching your exploits with older cars. Reminds me of my brother in his early days of car ownership. Never a dull moment.
Log book scam probably indicates a driveway 'dealer'. Trying to shift on the vehicle without anything tying it to them.
EgoShredder with a 12 year old Picasso?!
I'm used to crappy plastics. I've owned many french cars. That give me a giggle. Well done on the channel. Watching from New Zealand. Good viewing
Did you leave it for a few minutes? The fan may stay on a few minutes after running which may be normal, chances are the fan is controlled by a different temperature switch to the gauge.
Fan is controlled by the fan switch in the rad and gauge by a senior in the block as far as I know. Although it will be interesting to see how things work out this being a diesel converted to petrol built by Indians and sold to Hubnut....
He should have left the fan running to see how long til it stops as it's probably normal.
I like this one. She looks quite nice, and seems maybe there is nothing fundamentally wrong. So a good deal, and good entertainment whilst you sort out the glitches.
Nice one Ian. I am thinking the thermostat and electric fan issues are connected. Good luck!!!
Although it was inevitable for so many years, it’s sad to see Longbridge with the factory gone and all this modern non-industrial cobblers appearing in its place.
A great caper 👍 Good old British industry always to little to late. I wish second hand car were as cheap here in NZ becaus we have always paid way to much.
Cars are cheap as chips in the U.K. are they still expensive in N.Z??
McPugg you think your second hand cars are expensive in NZ? Come to the United States and see what you get for $250.00 USD. 😭
@@matty6848 afraid so people here still have the idea that we are a long way from the rest of the world so prices stay high. E.G. 25year old Toyota Land cruiser with high mileage 18,000 NZD
@@klwthe3rd At least you can buy something for 250
CauliflowerMcPugg I think your right there. I’ve been to Australia but not NZ however my cousin lives in NZ and pretty much describes the same to me that NZ almost has a inferiority complex about itself and standing on the world tech stage which is daft of course because NZ is up there with any nation👍🏻
gotta love the Vanden Pla(stic) picnic tables
@@TomAlter1000 I stand corrected ;)
Retitled by Hoovie "I purchased the cheapest Rover CityRover in the UK."
Wizard stops working on the Viper and phantom to tackle issues on the metro......
Hoovies an idiot by the way.
Although we have several Rover dealers here in Southern California, I don’t think this car was ever sold here. As other people have commented, on some vehicles, the fan will stay on for a short while with the engine off, I’ve had motorcycles that did it.
Ian, what's happened to the updated one's that were shipped over during the bust? They must still be in existence do you think?
I've seen an urban exploration video hete on YT in which some guys entered an old Rover plant. Inside were still a number of brand new Rover cars legt to collect dust. Some had a bright yellow paintjob.
I doubt anyone can get those cars registered for a license plate and ownership documents.
They dumped them in the sea and turned round to go home.... JK
Didn't one of the car supermarkets buy a job lot of them and sell them on cheaply?
@@jfv65 the bright yellow ones will have been MG versions
@Sam Eyers yeah, you're right. They were resold by motapoint IIRC for a few grand less than they were sold at by rover (the price they ought to have been sold at)
Had a Toyota Tercel with a leaky tank, only took half so was forced to carry a can at all times. Wish I still had it.
Cheapest I bought £50 for a type 2 VW bus with twin sliding doors, towed it back and started it with ten minutes of key twiddling.
£25 worth of welding and two brake pipes and through a test. Wish I still had it.
Cheapest with a test and tax, £90 for a FSO Polenz. Wish I still had it. Cheers
For me £200 car £2000 insurance ffs 🤦♂️
My BMW 325 used to keep running the fans for a while after the ignition was off. Wasn't an issue at all.
Excellent sheep comment on the Citroen. I am sure it said Blurrrahhhhhhhhhhhh :-)
Not had a good collection caper for ages! This is a real treat! Didn’t expect one til after the Hubnut international tour😂👍👍
That haircut is having a very unsavory influence on you Ian
I've done that. The black Astra SPORT you saw me in at the meet in The Lakes was a car I paid £200 for. It wasn't in as good a state as it is now, but moderate spending & determination pays off. It's bloody quick since I had the new clutch fitted.
At last! Someone else that buys a motor sight unseen.
...we are in need of professional help. I still regret the 55plate Kelisa after a drunken Ebay click.
I never buy cars unseen but when I arrive I've basically made up my mind it's coming home with me. Bought a few lemons over the years but I do love tinkering (the wife calls it playing). Still better than spending it in the pub.
I've only bought one car unseen, a £250 Chevrolet Matiz yesterday off a certain online auction site, but I've always made up my mind within seconds of seeing a car.
ahh a Kelisa, that's a "Perodua" right...? :-P
Ian, if the car has an ecu/emu it could be a problem with the coolant temperature sensor. If the sensor is a bit sus and sending spurious inputs to the ecu/emu it may decide that it can't trust the reading and to safeguard the engine turn the fans on becauseit could be hot. Then when you turn the car off it keeps the fans on for a period to cool the engine down. Good luck
HUBNUT, WHAT IS GOING ON YOU ARE GETTING BETTER LOOKING EVERY VIDEO, A VIDEO ON YOUR DAILY GROOMING RITUAL PLEASE, NO I AM NOT GAY, BUT A LIGHT SUPPER AND A RIDE OUT IN ONE OF YOUR CARS, AND WHO KNOWS, NO PROMISES THOUGH.
“we’re not lendin that to you matey” - Some person from Rover
Looks like you dodged a bullet by walking away from the Citroen
If you ever have any nagging doubts about a car no matter how much it is or what a great deal you think it is just walk away
Trust your gut
City rovers are sweet my sons first car , well done.
I had the use of a Tata Rover -The worst car ever!Awful!
My friend's wife got a Chevy spark for £250. As far as I can tell it's in good condition. After getting the suspension struts changed
Love traction engines bet it smelt awesome! The City Rover is a good car and a steal for £200. Great find HubNut!
I love that you are into indicator sounds. Been that as long as I remember. I'm not alone. Awesome!
The cooling fan on my 2013 Ford Fiesta ran after switching off on two occasions... one time after a spirited drive over a hill that got up to about 1500 feet, and another time after a congested traffic drive on a hot day (38 celsius)
It's normal for a lot of cars, and more so for ones built for tropical climates, like a TATA. That's why there are warning labels about the fans running at any time, and it's recommended that the battery be disconnected when working under the bonnet
Awful cars, but no problems with depreciation, as long as it works, it’s a gamble worth taking. Great stuff!
Cool video. Some of the mk2 or facelift or whatever you want to call them did actually sneak in to the country. They were all purchased by a big car supermarket and sold off as new cars with a 3 year warranty.
For one awful moment I thought I was suffering a reality inversion and you had actually bought the Picasso not the Rover ! Phew what a relief. Forgotten camera mounts replaced by a seat wedgie instead - brilliant and typical HubNut. Best 25 minutes of a bank holiday Monday ever.
I borrowed one of these for a couple of weeks back in 2008, the car was only about 2 yrs old at the time but all in all it wasn’t a bad car.
Hi Ian I'm lay in bed just watching you drive past my old senior school on the Bristol rd as you were heading to the m5 I now live in Yeovil and am astonished to see my old stomping grounds on one of your brilliant collection capers what a small world we truly live in hey? Keep up the excellent videos mate awesome stuff .