Comedians are actually great English instructors in my opinion. I'm a native English speaker, and I learned through watching comedy how to structure my sentences better and select my words more carefully to make a good point effectively. And also how to tell a joke and make someone laugh rather than annoyed!
His views don't represent the views of Americans, because the Americans are full of sh*t, and can't look at themselves honestly. That's why his views don't line up with the views of an average American.
I have worked factory in Indiana and THIS IS EXACTLY the situation. The immigrants show up - the locals just quit. They aren't taking anyone's job - the local people don't want the work.
According to federal law employers who hire illegals are subject to punishing fines. But we live in a lawless country. More than "jobs", they steal wage rises from every other worker in the nation.
@@clubprojects6923 Therefore people's anger should be directed against the greedy bosses who want more profits by employing low paying worker. Not against someone who just wants to honestly earn money for his bare necessities.
They don't want the work? Why didn't they quit before then? Or is it that they don't want the work FOR THE MONEY THAT WILL BE PAID NOW (and no payrises in the future) because immigrants are cheaper? These two are not the same.
Me too. And I was born into this hateful, moaning, wet, cold, dirty, concrete, ignorant, undemocratic (Queen, Lords), dictatorial nation lol. Thank fuck for dual nationality! I wont even use the Brit passport out of shame haha. You're not alone mate.
For crying out loud, I emigrated to Britain, I'm not white and I fucking love this place. I've yet to have experienced any racism from white people in this country. In the more than 20 years I've been here the only racism I experienced was when I was a teenager living in South Kilburn and that was from Afro-Caribbeans (we were the only South Asian family in our block at the time). You want racism? Try being an Algerian in France (close of mate mine has stories to tell), or a black person in parts of Spain. We ain't perfect, there's lots of room for improvement - always will be, but we are better at this than just about the rest of the world that's for sure.
@@argh2945 well yeah some places in England are great, Brighton for instance, we are so welcoming...it really depends where you are and if the people are accepting
@@Sam-bz2zy Like I stated we ain't perfect but we are better at this than just about anywhere else right now. Take that how you want. One way to look at it is to realise how much worse it is in most other places. Basically, to be an ethnic minority in any country in the world that is not a Northern European nation fucking sucks for the most part. I have Algerian mates who've backed this up, Muslim mates who grew up in Spain who could back this up, I've also experienced it myself when travelling through Spain last year for example. Also, Brighton is overrated; Bournemouth for the win 😋😁
And who's the bad guy in that scenario? The immigrant who wants a job to support his family, or the employer who hires him and pays him 1/4 the wage of John Doe illegally?
@@ChrisPierreBacon I never understood why law enforcement went after the millions of poor workers and not the employers. Wouldn't that be simpler to accomplish?
Not in the UK. Job Centers got loads looking for work, agencies have loads of work going. Just the bone idle dont want to chance beds in a hotel, man bars, take plastic off a conveyor, put butter packs in a sleeve, load pages into binders etc. They just wanna sit at home smoking joints signing on. Have a baby and you have a flat for life.
If ANYONE can do it, assuming you arent crippled, or a lazy whiny, bitch that makes excuses for not pulling your own weight, then correct. It is NOT a skillset. It equates to breathing,eating, and shitting.
@Evi1M4chine The irony is, Charlie Brooker who wrote this show, wrote another with just your type in mind: crazy angry people th-cam.com/video/cv8mX-lyOSk/w-d-xo.html
This left/right, pro/anti immigration thing is soon going to be overshadowed by automation anyway. If you think the threat of cheap labor from immigration was an issue just wait til automation really takes off. Whats currently feasible yet underused, or in its infancy at present - automated manufacturing (including modular home construction), automated warehousing, automated banking and retail, automated transport. There'll still be SOME jobs of course in, but it will be for 10 times less general workers, a few engineers and a skeleton crew. Just as there used to be 100 men with shovels on the building site til diggers and cranes came along, or 100 typists and admin staff til printers and pc's arrived.
Doubtful. You can't penny pinch a machine: you have fixed costs in materials, maintenance and engineering that can't really be avoided. With minimum wage workers, you can always get them to work for less, or work more hours (or else they'd be out of work, and there's 20 other guys waiting for that one job). There's limits to automation.
@@diegowushu, every argument you've used applies equally to a machine. You can always pay a person less you say? You can always reduce the costs of running your machines by buying more efficient machines, which will be developed when employers start using them and creating demand for them. You can get staff to work longer hours you say? Well you can get a machine to work 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
until we pull our troops out of all the countries we are invading and destroying we shouldn't say one word in complaint of immigrants, illegal or legal
How about we complain as Long as we want to as long as we have to send our young men to sort out their shitty problems? Or maybe you just fuck off and live over there.
@@fredcollierfinishingtouche6701 our government is not trying to solve their "shitty problems", they are creating their "shitty problems"...what shitty problem did Iran have before we overthrew their democratic government and replaced it with a brutal dictatorship so that we could keep stealing their oil? in the 90's we murdered a million Iraqis, including half a million children by denying them medicine, bombing most of the water treatment plants, and bombing livestock and food warehouses...was that a shitty problem they had? people dying of preventable illnesses, dysentery and starvation? or did they have an even shittier problem of their own making??
It's the second movement from Beethoven's 7th symphony. I hardly listen to any classical music, this is pretty much the only one I know by name because I like it so much.
Having a choice between a half-slave from a low-income country and a local employee that has all their right secured, a capitalist will always choose the half-slave. Workers of the world, unite! (Yeah, I know, I know.)
murdockqotsa its the employers fault and I think its 100% them for exploiting the workers. But its also the workers fault for accepting minimum wage for a job worth triple it. For instance picking crops. Fuck that job its hard and deserves way more pay than the farmers give them. If the illegal immigrants didnt accept that shit pay they would be forced to pay what the job is worth and people would be willing to take the job. The only reason the illegals are the only ones who want those shit jobs are because the fucked up employers pay those crap ass wages.
***** sounds about right. Its the same reason there is a political party that is trying to abolish the minimum wage. So defenders like samuel can say. You're asking for 8 an hour? You're overpaid. People are working that job for 30 cents a week.
Jay Xan Everyone gets mad at the immigrants but did you guys forget WHO IS GIVING THEM THE JOBS??? The ones in charge of hiring (happens to be white), who lowered the wages as long as someone is willing to do it for next to nothing.
Retro Revisited Right now it really appeals to me to do that, signed onto some R&D programme for SNP funded project and paying into a system I get the most out of, free childcare free NHS free learning great transport infrastructure affable people, it's been so long since the UK has been like that I don't know if it's even a reality any more. Dark times for UK.
Retro Revisited You too, I think some solidarity between rational Brits is essential now. I am just worried about Farage now, his popularity will be a bandwagon like Trump is, every one will like him but no idea why!
Well easy for Doug to say that. He's childless and in his own words is, "Right by the fire exit" For those keeping score Doug Stanhope doesn't have a stake in anything.
You know why he doesn't have children and therefore no stakes in anything? Precisely BECAUSE bringing people into existence inherently puts them at a risk. Maybe you should consider that before yanking people into existence.
Saying that immigrants don't steal highly skilled jobs is irrelevant. We can't all be doctors or lawyers or engineers. There aren't anywhere near enough high-skilled jobs for everyone. So when immigrants are willing to work for a third of what you require to live your normal life, that's ruining for a tremendous amount of people. I don't mind joking about it, but it's a serious problem with no easy solutions. Ignoring it or telling people to "just get educated" or whatever is wholly unhelpful.
Agreed, pisses me off how people make it into a race or prejudice issue when in reality it's the blatant fact that there's not even enough jobs as it is in the UK right now, something like 4 people unemployed for every available job, and on top of that the security of welfare is being stripped away, it's just madness to let more people in.
"So when immigrants are willing to work for a third of what you require to live your normal life", that is a sign that they are willing to work a lot harder for it before signing on. Yet here I was being led to believe by the press that immigrants were coming here to take our benefits. I won't side with people who think your way until you decide as to which of these mutually exclusive justifications you subscribe. Apart from which, I thought that we were all supposed to be supporting Austerity Britain, where we have all agreed to scoff at socialistic notions such as a living wage and unions, sign up for zero-hours contracts and support business competitiveness. Did I miss the last UKIP memo?
MinesAGuinness "I won't side with people who think your way until you decide as to which of these mutually exclusive justifications you subscribe" I don't see how they're mutually exclusive. It's possible for a group of people to not act 100% the same. Immigrants can simultaneously be willing to work for very little and be content with the support they can get from government assistance. I don't see how this could be a problem for you. I'm not from the UK, so I'm unaware of what you're referring to, and you aren't forced to hold certain beliefs just because you acknowledge that you simply cannot let 100% of people into your country. It's unreasonable to think otherwise.
@@MinesAGuinness > that is a sign that they are willing to work a lot harder for it before signing on Yes, and willing to live in much worse conditions, like renting a dilapidated oom and sharing it with half a dozen other guys. Which means you and your family would have to accept a similar living standard if you are to stay competitive. Basically you're getting outcompeted into poverty. That's the reason why labour unions were created in the first place back in the day, by the way - to prevent this exact thing from happening domestically. Otherwise it's a spiral of "willing to work a lot harder", and a lot harder still.
This was years before we all had smart phones, and alternative media was not like it is today. Back then the BBC was like a Big Brother corp with the newspapers all singing from the same song book. Those corporate comedians kept a media silence on the r'pe gangs around the uk commintes by the immigrants. As did the polititians. Ironically, Charlie Brooker wrote a brilliant Netflix series similar to Hunger Games were they allow atrocities but keep the glare on fluffy bunny dancing and comediens like Doug and Charlie laughing of the mob😮
I’m not worried about them taking my job, I’m worried about them taking jobs that our young people should be doing. Say people between the ages of 16 to 20 or so. The rate of unemployment for young black males is staggering and a young persons first job is very important. It teaches so many lessons that young people today miss out on.
LOL young people you say. Shit they don't even want to do those jobs, why you think these immigrants from Columbia or Venez are coming over to do them: They are not even mexicans coming over, mexicos system is much better than the US, its those immigrants of those dam broken countries neighbors of mexico that the US bankrupt. These lazy young people are praying for socialism and bernie to wipe their ass, good luck with that cause they are going to have to work 200% harder and with less jobs to go around. Once the chinese overlords take over, good luck uneducated mericans; your job selection will be limited to fast food and walmart overlords, cause unskilled labor will be shipped off to cheap countries, that are cheaper than china. You can't export fat ass's. They rather lern their lesson the hard way by selling drugs, doing crime and shit.
So young person jobs are being stolen but unemployment for young black males is staggering. Something ain't adding up here, why is unemployment for young white males not staggering??? Why did you specifically target blacks?
When do you have better payed jobs? When you have limited workforce pool or unlimited? If you have limited workforce the employers must fight for workers and must innovate, so they can do as much work as possible with less people (automated lines). Or you just have shitty jobs because you know you gonna get workers from unlimited pool of immigrants.
if you don't understand economics, don't talk about it. Low wage workers have to compete harder if the labor force increases in a given area. at the same time the wages of low income workers also decrease. and as a nice side effects people get mad about their personal situation and blame it on the immigrant. They should blame the government.
SoloPerICommenti bye police ,army,nurses,roads,infact fuck it lets all just wipe out all fictions of public service and statehood....hope G4S are affordable to you im sure their minimum wage staff and CEO is really really concerned about all our safety...actually why bother all the laws based in State scrap the law!!! all of its an infringement of civil liberties hey? Buy yourself a maximum security fortress manned by your own mercenaries!!! yeah that's it No law no government no state no borders no democracy....YEAH fuck democratic governments let the rich make more money lets go back to the good ol Viking days money wont mean a lot really then though people will want stuff that's actually useful...I know I know going too far,lets make sure the state subsidizes your economic system
In Sweden the government pays 80% of the wage if you employ a immigrant so the employer only has to pay 20% of what he would have to pay a swedish worker. Try to compete with that.
Tye Wolfe I'm well familiar with Beethoven but stick to my previous post. Comedic taste is akin to beer taste, I suppose. Guess we'll just have to differ.
***** My goodness, where did THIS pseudo-intellectual bit of tripe full of ASSumptions about me come from?! First off, you can't argue an opinion based on something that is unquantifiable (claiming a $ is composed of 101 cents---THAT is quantifiable)---and my OPINION is the music is an annoying distraction in this bit. As for my being "dead-afraid of actual reality," spend four years "in the trenches" in a humanitarian capacity in West Africa, followed by nearly two more now in a similar capacity in SE Asia, THEN come back and lecture me about "reality." Everyone is entitled to his opinion; there is nothing to "discuss" here.
We'll have more 3rd worlders now that we're leaving the EU, also they're willing to work for less therefore any reasons given such as "they undercut UK workers" becomes much stronger....
hes clever he made it funny and did like a master, that said hes wrong and everyone knows it. He made every hadworking job seem like its done by a fool and those jobs have to be done. he also turned every immigrant into a idiot also.
hes not saying those jobs are done by fools.. hes saying youre a fool if someone willing to work for less can replace you... hes saying that people that can speak english that are born in america have so much more potential than someone who cant even communicate and can replace you is pathetic...hes saying if you have a given advantage, seize it and capitalize on it before you become obsolete
Doug is hilarious as usual, but on this issue he's missing the real point. Poorly educated immigrants just saturate the unskilled jobs market that's already struggling under huge unemployment rates, and being willing to work insane hours for less than minimum wage if the employer gets away with it gives them a huge advantage over natural citizens. As for those of them who won't find employment, Britain's welfare net is being torn to shreds by your friendly neighbourhood conservatives, leaving the already poor and disabled in state of suicidal misery, more immigrants is just going to make the issue worse.
What if a fellow "natural citizen" was willing to work insane hours for less than minimum wage? Would it then be okay? Kids seem to have no problem holding shitty jobs at McDonalds, I don't see why adults can't either educate themselves (here's a tip: learn an instrument, and start private teaching. It's one of the few jobs that is on the increase with population growth), or work greater hours in order to keep their job. People seem to think their country owes them something, because they were born on a giant patch of land that happens to be governed by people that were born on the same giant patch of land.
youwinoneinternets My use of quotation marks was grammatically correct. I assume that your bringing them up means that you had no point of significance to add.
So, you Brits can relaaaax. You see, if you're a loser, you're going to be a loser regardless of immigration. Surely it puts a strain on certain government institutions, but hey, you can manipulate the system so it suits your interests. I, as a Bulgarian citizen, couldn't care less about working in the UK even though I'm highly qualified and well educated. The only reason I might be interested in forming some relations with the West (particularly US) is because I need more people interested in my art to appreciate what I do.
Steven Deaville thank you steven you hit the nail right on the head. and because there's more people than jobs, employers are not giving full time jobs, instead they use work agencies that way we get no job security - no sick pay - get paid minimum wage and treated like scum, if we dont like the way we are treated then there are plenty of others who will take the position. we all need to vote for BNP.
El Grande Gringo Fantastico absolutely..the fat cats and bankers are pissing themselves laughing at how easily they can fuck everyone over and pin the blame on the first easy target they find...theyre fucking everyone over its just the tide hasn't risen so some don't realise ...yet(apart from all the cuts which are going to affect everyones lives..its not just the welfare,disabled and nhs being sold off ...its the police the army..the roads all public services of every description fire brigade...I don't think a lot of people realise how massive the change will be yet,the last 5 years was just a starter....add to that a very shaky economy and I would guess an inevitable crash in overinflated housing prices,interest rates actually going up,peoples mortgages leaping and a lot of people in for a very nasty shock....2008 will seem easy by comparison
All fun and games till he "loses" his wallet on the tube from a romanian. As much as i love this bit on immigration. On serious note the big difference between uk and us is population density. There ain't no housing/school/healthcare shortage in the US
Victor Luchian True, and we love to take credit for things we had no hand in creating. Most common when people talk about "We fought the Germans..." and the person saying it is too young to have fought in the war, and often times, their parents immigrated here from another country.
I hate it when a comedian you like does a bit that is kinda funny but completely ignorant of the truth and then I feel compelled to comment. Then you realise what a waste of time the comment is...
Love this guy but don’t agree with anything he said in this sketch and don’t think he agrees with what he is saying either. But he had to do a sketch on immigration and this one doesn’t offend anyone but the English and American people and in today’s world that’s totally fine because we are just the dummies that pioneered the industrial revolution and taught everyone everything
Well I'll tell you this. It takes 4 years at least full time to learn to tape or even hang sheetrock well..they don't use sheetrock drywall in Mexico or other country south of our border much. So this means these men come here and learn over time a decent trade that we can handle ourselves. So Doug ...this is one professionals that pays well..that has been taken by foreigners. And it's crippling to many American men and maybe even woman.
And the people that are stealing your jobs, they're living in the same country are they not? Paying taxes? Have families? Eat? Sleep? Watch TV? Spend money? What are they doing that allows them to live on a more meagre salary than the rest?
It's really weird to me how everyone nowadays is taking statistics or believing things to be factual from a goddamn comedian they're a comedian that's their job to be funny not to be factual about stuff. You guys need to start looking up real statistics and look up what's really going on.
H-1b visas, it's an 8 year visa now instead of a 4 year, so hundreds of thousands of those legal immigrants. Even if they didn't take your job, you're probably making marginally more than minimum wage because of them for your technical and skilled job. Ever wonder why a masters degree is required to apply for a $12 an hour help desk job? Or why your doctor barely speaks english?
Doctors have their own practices. Nobody's taking a doctor's job in america. We have a high demand and nobody qualified. Thank god, again, for migrants to pick up the slack.
AHAHAHHAHAHAH "notions are being manipulated". You silly little person. Someone should hire an illegal to give you a massage (at a highly discounted rate of course).
Oh sure, it is always good to see a smart big person. Yes, the logic, which Stanhope presents here and which many other people share is a manipulation. In any society there will always be people, who will do jobs requiring low skills and consequently paying less. However, a 40-year old low-skilled worker, who lives like anybody else paying his taxes, insurances and mortgages and feeding his kids, can not compete with an illegally hired person, who is ready to live in slums and work twice as much for an amount, which is three or four times less than a legal worker gets. This worker is not to blame. And it is an idiotic position to blame this on the actual people, who lose their job. I guess understanding the root of the problem will not be too hard to such a smart guy like yourself
TesticuliDomini So the mexican is to blame? He's the same person as the worker who is trying to feed his kid also. How about applying the blame to the employer who is hiring the immigrant on the account of having to pay him less just to maximize profits? “Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free....except mexicans they're icky"
You are switching topics like Doug. His claim is that the problem is in the low-skilled and law abiding locals being too stupid to compete with illegally hired immigrants, who are ready to live below the poverty line standards. This is obvious bullshit to me. Certainly the illegal aliens are not the main ones to blame here, but this in no way means they should be welcomed.
He is making a very stupid point here, because it impossible for all people in the country to have a college degree or highly payable skills. So there are bound to be people, who will have to ear their living by hard labor. And these people are by far not the minority of the work force. However, when oligarchic capitalism starts widely using illegal immigrants as work force, people, who are this way losing their jobs are at least not to blame. The claim that only "uneducated" losers complain about immigrants is just as idiotic.
"...from a fable, or some shit." Even having spent weeks in Bucharest, later knocking up and marrying an amazing woman born in Timișoara... I'm not sure I have a solid rebuttal. As an American, it'd be easier to pretend my kids were half Ukrainian than to identify some attribute significant enough to prove Romania exists. (Before you ask, I've never heard my wife speak fondly of her early years, so I doubt she'd take offense.)
Not that I'm not laughing, but the "they turk our jerbs" thing is about the asians/indians (who are qualified and will just undercut your salary), and the criminal part is more about the illegal mexicans who surprise surprise, are actually committing a hell of a lot of crimes in addition to the whole "illegal immigrant" thing. That's what happens when you conflate immigrant (legal or not) to mean Mexican.
"I'm Doug Stanhope and that's why I drink" -- that quote speaks to me on an extremely personal level
More like he is this stupid because he drinks
"I'm Doug Stanhope...and that's why I drink"
Awesome
This guy is my idol, I'm learning English just to understand what he says.
Hey, thats how i learned english....by listening to comedians and anti religion people
Comedians are actually great English instructors in my opinion. I'm a native English speaker, and I learned through watching comedy how to structure my sentences better and select my words more carefully to make a good point effectively. And also how to tell a joke and make someone laugh rather than annoyed!
Welcome
This might be the most amazing complete (I’ve ever heard)🤙
Hope you’re English is progressing!
@@ethandewicki576 thats very interesting. Do you think this method would work for English to lets say spanish?
"Mr. Stanhope's views do not necessarily represent those of America." Bullshit, this man has been spot on about mostly everything.
His views don't represent the views of Americans, because the Americans are full of sh*t, and can't look at themselves honestly. That's why his views don't line up with the views of an average American.
except immigration
Doug Stanhope makes it just a little bit okay that George Carlin is dead.
Spot on!
And Bill Hick's
just a little
It softens the sadness, by just a tiny, tiny bit.
@@CaterpillarsHookah hicks is alive!
Hi I’m Doug Stanhope…. This is why I drink. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Such a great opener.
Never heard of this guy till now. Or the show. will have to watch more, this is pretty damn good!
You were always so funny but so truthful. Way to go on another fantastic rant! Keep them coming Doug!
Mans a genius...pure and simple
I have worked factory in Indiana and THIS IS EXACTLY the situation. The immigrants show up - the locals just quit. They aren't taking anyone's job - the local people don't want the work.
According to federal law employers who hire illegals are subject to punishing fines. But we live in a lawless country.
More than "jobs", they steal wage rises from every other worker in the nation.
@@clubprojects6923 Therefore people's anger should be directed against the greedy bosses who want more profits by employing low paying worker. Not against someone who just wants to honestly earn money for his bare necessities.
They don't want the work? Why didn't they quit before then?
Or is it that they don't want the work FOR THE MONEY THAT WILL BE PAID NOW (and no payrises in the future) because immigrants are cheaper?
These two are not the same.
the locals quit because businesses are paying less for illegals to work, its why corporations lobby for democrats
This video is aging like fine wine. Still is.
I picked up drinking 10 years ago. I get it now.
I can verify what he said about UK
I wish I could leave :(
Me too. And I was born into this hateful, moaning, wet, cold, dirty, concrete, ignorant, undemocratic (Queen, Lords), dictatorial nation lol. Thank fuck for dual nationality! I wont even use the Brit passport out of shame haha.
You're not alone mate.
For crying out loud, I emigrated to Britain, I'm not white and I fucking love this place.
I've yet to have experienced any racism from white people in this country. In the more than 20 years I've been here the only racism I experienced was when I was a teenager living in South Kilburn and that was from Afro-Caribbeans (we were the only South Asian family in our block at the time). You want racism? Try being an Algerian in France (close of mate mine has stories to tell), or a black person in parts of Spain.
We ain't perfect, there's lots of room for improvement - always will be, but we are better at this than just about the rest of the world that's for sure.
@@argh2945 well yeah some places in England are great, Brighton for instance, we are so welcoming...it really depends where you are and if the people are accepting
@@Sam-bz2zy
Like I stated we ain't perfect but we are better at this than just about anywhere else right now. Take that how you want. One way to look at it is to realise how much worse it is in most other places. Basically, to be an ethnic minority in any country in the world that is not a Northern European nation fucking sucks for the most part.
I have Algerian mates who've backed this up, Muslim mates who grew up in Spain who could back this up, I've also experienced it myself when travelling through Spain last year for example.
Also, Brighton is overrated; Bournemouth for the win 😋😁
I don't agree with Doug on everything but he's spot on with this.
There's people like Doug and there's people
A lot of very dicey people commenting on this page. They don't even get what Doug is saying.
Bet your last dollar Andrew Tate wishes Romania was from a fable! 😂
I like how this dude dresses like a game show host from 1972 🤔
"...where they can do the job training via pantomime..." 🤣
Doug is lit. And hilarious as usual
Stanhope is an actual consistent libertarian.
Which means he is delusional. "Libertarianism " is just a flavor in the machine owned by the bosses.
A rare find.
Not anymore.
He gave up on Libertarianism years ago.
The ad I got for this video was Nigel farage, class
I Love Doug.
But its not about being as qualified for John Doe's Job. Its about being willing to work for a quarter of the price.
What job can an immigrant that can't speak the language and with no education do that is 4 times the minimum wage?
And who's the bad guy in that scenario? The immigrant who wants a job to support his family, or the employer who hires him and pays him 1/4 the wage of John Doe illegally?
@@ChrisPierreBacon I never understood why law enforcement went after the millions of poor workers and not the employers. Wouldn't that be simpler to accomplish?
@@jbholmes99 because the laws are made by rich douchebags
Not in the UK. Job Centers got loads looking for work, agencies have loads of work going. Just the bone idle dont want to chance beds in a hotel, man bars, take plastic off a conveyor, put butter packs in a sleeve, load pages into binders etc. They just wanna sit at home smoking joints signing on. Have a baby and you have a flat for life.
Literally the funniest thing I have ever heard
"Manual labour isn't a legitimate skill set."
-Doug Stanhope
If ANYONE can do it, assuming you arent crippled, or a lazy whiny, bitch that makes excuses for not pulling your own weight, then correct. It is NOT a skillset. It equates to breathing,eating, and shitting.
Comedy is funny unless it's about me. Classic.
Guy never worked those jobs. Bourgeois dipshit. Try working a wheelbarrows full of concrete or trucking pallets of pavers. Yeah it's a "skillset".
@@clubprojects6923 Manual labour is a far, far more valuable job to society than being a fucking comedian.
@@tcaudiobooks737 no... Its not.. Well not in Dougs case
If I ever meet Doug I am going to kiss him on the mouth. Stanhope is the greatest living comedian.
Reminds me of Bill Hicks, don't know why?
+picklesnorf101 He is similar to Bill in many ways for me too. I love Bill Hicks he is my God.
+Tiffian Ruler It's the acerbic wit!
Don't drive after that if you don't want to get a DUI
He has the herp...
I am a romanian,and yes i am actually talking to you from "Alice in Wonderland" and we just had tea with the bunny rabit!
Hahaha (enjoying the joke without igniting a political discussion)
***** What do you know about what the author of the original comment has ever done?
@Evi1M4chine The irony is, Charlie Brooker who wrote this show, wrote another with just your type in mind: crazy angry people th-cam.com/video/cv8mX-lyOSk/w-d-xo.html
Doug Stanhope doesn't know about Romania, now that's privilege!
Is immigration still an issue? How? A mate of mine and myself solved it nearly 20 years whilst drunk and stoned around a pool table in my basement.
This left/right, pro/anti immigration thing is soon going to be overshadowed by automation anyway.
If you think the threat of cheap labor from immigration was an issue just wait til automation really takes off.
Whats currently feasible yet underused, or in its infancy at present - automated manufacturing (including modular home construction), automated warehousing, automated banking and retail, automated transport.
There'll still be SOME jobs of course in, but it will be for 10 times less general workers, a few engineers and a skeleton crew.
Just as there used to be 100 men with shovels on the building site til diggers and cranes came along, or 100 typists and admin staff til printers and pc's arrived.
Doubtful. You can't penny pinch a machine: you have fixed costs in materials, maintenance and engineering that can't really be avoided. With minimum wage workers, you can always get them to work for less, or work more hours (or else they'd be out of work, and there's 20 other guys waiting for that one job). There's limits to automation.
a lot to learn.
...and they will. and quickly.
@@diegowushu, every argument you've used applies equally to a machine. You can always pay a person less you say? You can always reduce the costs of running your machines by buying more efficient machines, which will be developed when employers start using them and creating demand for them. You can get staff to work longer hours you say? Well you can get a machine to work 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
dey took out jerbs!!1
He's a legend 😆 🤣 😂
There is hope with Stanhope
What song is that under his entire monologue
Beethoven's 7th symphony, 2nd movement
This must be sponsored by the Bilderbergers! lol!
Nice one!
until we pull our troops out of all the countries we are invading and destroying we shouldn't say one word in complaint of immigrants, illegal or legal
How about we complain as
Long as we want to as long as we have to send our young men to sort out their shitty problems? Or maybe you just fuck off and live over there.
@@fredcollierfinishingtouche6701 our government is not trying to solve their "shitty problems", they are creating their "shitty problems"...what shitty problem did Iran have before we overthrew their democratic government and replaced it with a brutal dictatorship so that we could keep stealing their oil? in the 90's we murdered a million Iraqis, including half a million children by denying them medicine, bombing most of the water treatment plants, and bombing livestock and food warehouses...was that a shitty problem they had? people dying of preventable illnesses, dysentery and starvation? or did they have an even shittier problem of their own making??
Ok, once yall stop using plastic we can stop fighting for control of resources.
Straight up gangsta... bitches!
What's the classical music called? Very moving.
Speaking unto nations I think.
It's the second movement from Beethoven's 7th symphony. I hardly listen to any classical music, this is pretty much the only one I know by name because I like it so much.
Having a choice between a half-slave from a low-income country and a local employee that has all their right secured, a capitalist will always choose the half-slave. Workers of the world, unite! (Yeah, I know, I know.)
"stompin qauts" that shit made me giggle
Stanhope just crushes Conservative B.S. all day everyday.
Doug Stanhope speaks the truth!
Saw doug in Newcastle, nearly shit myself laughing.
its not based on skill its based on willing to accept a shit rate for a job worth double the wage.
The fact that wages are shit nowadays is not the fault of the immigrants.
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its the employers fault and I think its 100% them for exploiting the workers. But its also the workers fault for accepting minimum wage for a job worth triple it. For instance picking crops. Fuck that job its hard and deserves way more pay than the farmers give them. If the illegal immigrants didnt accept that shit pay they would be forced to pay what the job is worth and people would be willing to take the job.
The only reason the illegals are the only ones who want those shit jobs are because the fucked up employers pay those crap ass wages.
"Shit rate job" as it pertains to "wage" is relative to the individual. This is important. Repeat: This is important.
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sounds about right. Its the same reason there is a political party that is trying to abolish the minimum wage. So defenders like samuel can say. You're asking for 8 an hour? You're overpaid. People are working that job for 30 cents a week.
Jay Xan Everyone gets mad at the immigrants but did you guys forget WHO IS GIVING THEM THE JOBS??? The ones in charge of hiring (happens to be white), who lowered the wages as long as someone is willing to do it for next to nothing.
Dats an old bit.. but is a good one lol
Can someone tell me the music while Doug is talking please?
Beethoven's 7th symphony - second movement
stompin' guats' lmao
I miss this show
This is still fuckin hilarious !
That guy is onto something. I could be also after I realized Cronies/Comrades have the same definition. Hmmm wonder why lol
amen
Today is a dark day in the UK's history...this video helps a little. But not a lot.
Want to become an immigrant with me? I'm thinking Scotland, Canadian maybe New Zealand.
I'm definitely up for living in the Scottish mountains as a hermit tbh
Retro Revisited Right now it really appeals to me to do that, signed onto some R&D programme for SNP funded project and paying into a system I get the most out of, free childcare free NHS free learning great transport infrastructure affable people, it's been so long since the UK has been like that I don't know if it's even a reality any more. Dark times for UK.
Yep, dark times indeed. Hang in there man.
Retro Revisited You too, I think some solidarity between rational Brits is essential now. I am just worried about Farage now, his popularity will be a bandwagon like Trump is, every one will like him but no idea why!
Well easy for Doug to say that. He's childless and in his own words is, "Right by the fire exit" For those keeping score Doug Stanhope doesn't have a stake in anything.
And yet still far more clever and gifted than the pondlife you exist to be!! ;)
You know why he doesn't have children and therefore no stakes in anything? Precisely BECAUSE bringing people into existence inherently puts them at a risk. Maybe you should consider that before yanking people into existence.
You have a stake in a depressing cul-de-sac existence. Congrats 🤣
Change "Dynamic" for "Stupendous"
“Let’s ask US comedian and shambles...”
Saying that immigrants don't steal highly skilled jobs is irrelevant. We can't all be doctors or lawyers or engineers. There aren't anywhere near enough high-skilled jobs for everyone. So when immigrants are willing to work for a third of what you require to live your normal life, that's ruining for a tremendous amount of people.
I don't mind joking about it, but it's a serious problem with no easy solutions. Ignoring it or telling people to "just get educated" or whatever is wholly unhelpful.
Agreed, pisses me off how people make it into a race or prejudice issue when in reality it's the blatant fact that there's not even enough jobs as it is in the UK right now, something like 4 people unemployed for every available job, and on top of that the security of welfare is being stripped away, it's just madness to let more people in.
"So when immigrants are willing to work for a third of what you require to live your normal life", that is a sign that they are willing to work a lot harder for it before signing on. Yet here I was being led to believe by the press that immigrants were coming here to take our benefits. I won't side with people who think your way until you decide as to which of these mutually exclusive justifications you subscribe. Apart from which, I thought that we were all supposed to be supporting Austerity Britain, where we have all agreed to scoff at socialistic notions such as a living wage and unions, sign up for zero-hours contracts and support business competitiveness. Did I miss the last UKIP memo?
MinesAGuinness "I won't side with people who think your way until you decide as to which of these mutually exclusive justifications you subscribe"
I don't see how they're mutually exclusive. It's possible for a group of people to not act 100% the same. Immigrants can simultaneously be willing to work for very little and be content with the support they can get from government assistance. I don't see how this could be a problem for you.
I'm not from the UK, so I'm unaware of what you're referring to, and you aren't forced to hold certain beliefs just because you acknowledge that you simply cannot let 100% of people into your country. It's unreasonable to think otherwise.
@@MinesAGuinness
> that is a sign that they are willing to work a lot harder for it before signing on
Yes, and willing to live in much worse conditions, like renting a dilapidated oom and sharing it with half a dozen other guys.
Which means you and your family would have to accept a similar living standard if you are to stay competitive.
Basically you're getting outcompeted into poverty.
That's the reason why labour unions were created in the first place back in the day, by the way - to prevent this exact thing from happening domestically.
Otherwise it's a spiral of "willing to work a lot harder", and a lot harder still.
I love the smallest of 'shit' he lets out at the end.
Love that intro. "U.S. comedian and shambles, Doug Stanhope"
Still fresh, poignant and correct. He's a god.
This was years before we all had smart phones, and alternative media was not like it is today. Back then the BBC was like a Big Brother corp with the newspapers all singing from the same song book. Those corporate comedians kept a media silence on the r'pe gangs around the uk commintes by the immigrants. As did the polititians.
Ironically, Charlie Brooker wrote a brilliant Netflix series similar to Hunger Games were they allow atrocities but keep the glare on fluffy bunny dancing and comediens like Doug and Charlie laughing of the mob😮
How sad, thats how we've become in America.
come in France where we have beautifull art of life ''before'' and look how this millions of immigrants enrich our culture and life....
I’m not worried about them taking my job, I’m worried about them taking jobs that our young people should be doing. Say people between the ages of 16 to 20 or so. The rate of unemployment for young black males is staggering and a young persons first job is very important. It teaches so many lessons that young people today miss out on.
LOL young people you say. Shit they don't even want to do those jobs, why you think these immigrants from Columbia or Venez are coming over to do them: They are not even mexicans coming over, mexicos system is much better than the US, its those immigrants of those dam broken countries neighbors of mexico that the US bankrupt. These lazy young people are praying for socialism and bernie to wipe their ass, good luck with that cause they are going to have to work 200% harder and with less jobs to go around. Once the chinese overlords take over, good luck uneducated mericans; your job selection will be limited to fast food and walmart overlords, cause unskilled labor will be shipped off to cheap countries, that are cheaper than china. You can't export fat ass's.
They rather lern their lesson the hard way by selling drugs, doing crime and shit.
So young person jobs are being stolen but unemployment for young black males is staggering. Something ain't adding up here, why is unemployment for young white males not staggering??? Why did you specifically target blacks?
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Doug Stanhope is one of the best comics in the world. Having said that, dont look to him as a political thought leader.
You're right, I much prefer Joe Rogan
When do you have better payed jobs? When you have limited workforce pool or unlimited?
If you have limited workforce the employers must fight for workers and must innovate, so they can do as much work as possible with less people (automated lines). Or you just have shitty jobs because you know you gonna get workers from unlimited pool of immigrants.
To be frank not Doug's strongest piece, but to be fair the start to that episode felt misjudged and filed with more bile than wit.
the immigrants are cheaper labor though because the government will subsidise and incentivize companies to hire them, more diversity quotas etc
He's right, Romania isn't a real country
I wish somebody would steal my job
Why don't you just quit?
Classist
When did Kevin Costner turn into an angry old drunk?
if you don't understand economics, don't talk about it. Low wage workers have to compete harder if the labor force increases in a given area. at the same time the wages of low income workers also decrease. and as a nice side effects people get mad about their personal situation and blame it on the immigrant. They should blame the government.
immigrants take cut rates to do the same job thats the main problem
shit happens when you're doing a job anybody can do... much better being subsidized bybthe rest of the community, isn't it?
SoloPerICommenti bye police ,army,nurses,roads,infact fuck it lets all just wipe out all fictions of public service and statehood....hope G4S are affordable to you im sure their minimum wage staff and CEO is really really concerned about all our safety...actually why bother all the laws based in State scrap the law!!! all of its an infringement of civil liberties hey? Buy yourself a maximum security fortress manned by your own mercenaries!!! yeah that's it No law no government no state no borders no democracy....YEAH fuck democratic governments let the rich make more money lets go back to the good ol Viking days money wont mean a lot really then though people will want stuff that's actually useful...I know I know going too far,lets make sure the state subsidizes your economic system
ebban jenkins
not sure what you wrote makes actual sense, sir
thats called competition
yep nothing in this life is fair
he is doug stanhope and that is why he drinks
In Sweden the government pays 80% of the wage if you employ a immigrant so the employer only has to pay 20% of what he would have to pay a swedish worker. Try to compete with that.
What a complete nonsense. Post a source for that claim.
Wish the Remain camp had aired this a week before the Brexit vote maybe we wouldn't be in the shit now!
Binge watching doug lately. Has he eclipsed bill hicks? ... Possibly
What's with the frickin' MUSIC here?! A supremely annoying distraction!
It's the second movement of Beethoven's seventh symphony. It gives Doug noble irony, and works well in my opinion.
Tye Wolfe I'm well familiar with Beethoven but stick to my previous post. Comedic taste is akin to beer taste, I suppose. Guess we'll just have to differ.
***** My goodness, where did THIS pseudo-intellectual bit of tripe full of ASSumptions about me come from?! First off, you can't argue an opinion based on something that is unquantifiable (claiming a $ is composed of 101 cents---THAT is quantifiable)---and my OPINION is the music is an annoying distraction in this bit. As for my being "dead-afraid of actual reality," spend four years "in the trenches" in a humanitarian capacity in West Africa, followed by nearly two more now in a similar capacity in SE Asia, THEN come back and lecture me about "reality." Everyone is entitled to his opinion; there is nothing to "discuss" here.
In the States when we say immigrant, it’s just another word for Mexican.” TRUTH LOL
I know his material too well to find this funny, crank out new material Doug, we already know this shit.
This hasn't aged well.
Doug I love ya and all but there's bigger problems that comes with a flood of 3rd worlder's into your community.
We'll have more 3rd worlders now that we're leaving the EU, also they're willing to work for less therefore any reasons given such as "they undercut UK workers" becomes much stronger....
hes clever he made it funny and did like a master, that said hes wrong and everyone knows it. He made every hadworking job seem like its done by a fool and those jobs have to be done. he also turned every immigrant into a idiot also.
hes not saying those jobs are done by fools.. hes saying youre a fool if someone willing to work for less can replace you... hes saying that people that can speak english that are born in america have so much more potential than someone who cant even communicate and can replace you is pathetic...hes saying if you have a given advantage, seize it and capitalize on it before you become obsolete
Doug is hilarious as usual, but on this issue he's missing the real point. Poorly educated immigrants just saturate the unskilled jobs market that's already struggling under huge unemployment rates, and being willing to work insane hours for less than minimum wage if the employer gets away with it gives them a huge advantage over natural citizens.
As for those of them who won't find employment, Britain's welfare net is being torn to shreds by your friendly neighbourhood conservatives, leaving the already poor and disabled in state of suicidal misery, more immigrants is just going to make the issue worse.
By "natural citizens" I assume you actually mean "descendants of previous immigrants".
gryndyl Yes, and by your unhealthy use of quotation marks I assume you're trying to get across a point of some significance?
What if a fellow "natural citizen" was willing to work insane hours for less than minimum wage? Would it then be okay?
Kids seem to have no problem holding shitty jobs at McDonalds, I don't see why adults can't either educate themselves (here's a tip: learn an instrument, and start private teaching. It's one of the few jobs that is on the increase with population growth), or work greater hours in order to keep their job. People seem to think their country owes them something, because they were born on a giant patch of land that happens to be governed by people that were born on the same giant patch of land.
youwinoneinternets
My use of quotation marks was grammatically correct. I assume that your bringing them up means that you had no point of significance to add.
Sounds eerily like natural selection to me. Looks like all our dumbest and laziest will be weeded out, as it were.
So, you Brits can relaaaax. You see, if you're a loser, you're going to be a loser regardless of immigration. Surely it puts a strain on certain government institutions, but hey, you can manipulate the system so it suits your interests. I, as a Bulgarian citizen, couldn't care less about working in the UK even though I'm highly qualified and well educated. The only reason I might be interested in forming some relations with the West (particularly US) is because I need more people interested in my art to appreciate what I do.
Steven Deaville thank you steven you hit the nail right on the head. and because there's more people than jobs, employers are not giving full time jobs, instead they use work agencies that way we get no job security - no sick pay - get paid minimum wage and treated like scum, if we dont like the way we are treated then there are plenty of others who will take the position. we all need to vote for BNP.
El Grande Gringo Fantastico absolutely..the fat cats and bankers are pissing themselves laughing at how easily they can fuck everyone over and pin the blame on the first easy target they find...theyre fucking everyone over its just the tide hasn't risen so some don't realise ...yet(apart from all the cuts which are going to affect everyones lives..its not just the welfare,disabled and nhs being sold off ...its the police the army..the roads all public services of every description fire brigade...I don't think a lot of people realise how massive the change will be yet,the last 5 years was just a starter....add to that a very shaky economy and I would guess an inevitable crash in overinflated housing prices,interest rates actually going up,peoples mortgages leaping and a lot of people in for a very nasty shock....2008 will seem easy by comparison
All fun and games till he "loses" his wallet on the tube from a romanian.
As much as i love this bit on immigration. On serious note the big difference between uk and us is population density. There ain't no housing/school/healthcare shortage in the US
Yes, because the Brits have no history of pick-pocketry until the Romanians came along, nor of having shit jobs and difficult living conditions. ;-)
LivingInVancouverBC and by merely being born in a developed country, we have access to many things that we put no effort whatsoever towards
Victor Luchian True, and we love to take credit for things we had no hand in creating. Most common when people talk about "We fought the Germans..." and the person saying it is too young to have fought in the war, and often times, their parents immigrated here from another country.
There was no healthcare for the poor, and the schools are terrible. So, yeah, it's different, I guess.
Isn't* any.***
So why did I read the comment section? I already knew it would be filled with the usual racist quotes
I hate it when a comedian you like does a bit that is kinda funny but completely ignorant of the truth and then I feel compelled to comment. Then you realise what a waste of time the comment is...
Indeed
WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS STAN
Love this guy but don’t agree with anything he said in this sketch and don’t think he agrees with what he is saying either. But he had to do a sketch on immigration and this one doesn’t offend anyone but the English and American people and in today’s world that’s totally fine because we are just the dummies that pioneered the industrial revolution and taught everyone everything
Well I'll tell you this. It takes 4 years at least full time to learn to tape or even hang sheetrock well..they don't use sheetrock drywall in Mexico or other country south of our border much. So this means these men come here and learn over time a decent trade that we can handle ourselves. So Doug ...this is one professionals that pays well..that has been taken by foreigners. And it's crippling to many American men and maybe even woman.
And the people that are stealing your jobs, they're living in the same country are they not? Paying taxes? Have families? Eat? Sleep? Watch TV? Spend money? What are they doing that allows them to live on a more meagre salary than the rest?
This didnt age well...... psshhhhahahahahaha.
It's really weird to me how everyone nowadays is taking statistics or believing things to be factual from a goddamn comedian they're a comedian that's their job to be funny not to be factual about stuff. You guys need to start looking up real statistics and look up what's really going on.
whats really going on?
H-1b visas, it's an 8 year visa now instead of a 4 year, so hundreds of thousands of those legal immigrants. Even if they didn't take your job, you're probably making marginally more than minimum wage because of them for your technical and skilled job. Ever wonder why a masters degree is required to apply for a $12 an hour help desk job? Or why your doctor barely speaks english?
Doctors have their own practices. Nobody's taking a doctor's job in america. We have a high demand and nobody qualified. Thank god, again, for migrants to pick up the slack.
This is a vivid example, where notions are being manipulated. This videao is a bullshit point about a serious problem.
AHAHAHHAHAHAH "notions are being manipulated". You silly little person. Someone should hire an illegal to give you a massage (at a highly discounted rate of course).
Oh sure, it is always good to see a smart big person. Yes, the logic, which Stanhope presents here and which many other people share is a manipulation. In any society there will always be people, who will do jobs requiring low skills and consequently paying less. However, a 40-year old low-skilled worker, who lives like anybody else paying his taxes, insurances and mortgages and feeding his kids, can not compete with an illegally hired person, who is ready to live in slums and work twice as much for an amount, which is three or four times less than a legal worker gets. This worker is not to blame. And it is an idiotic position to blame this on the actual people, who lose their job. I guess understanding the root of the problem will not be too hard to such a smart guy like yourself
TesticuliDomini
So the mexican is to blame? He's the same person as the worker who is trying to feed his kid also. How about applying the blame to the employer who is hiring the immigrant on the account of having to pay him less just to maximize profits? “Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free....except mexicans they're icky"
You are switching topics like Doug. His claim is that the problem is in the low-skilled and law abiding locals being too stupid to compete with illegally hired immigrants, who are ready to live below the poverty line standards. This is obvious bullshit to me. Certainly the illegal aliens are not the main ones to blame here, but this in no way means they should be welcomed.
He is making a very stupid point here, because it impossible for all people in the country to have a college degree or highly payable skills. So there are bound to be people, who will have to ear their living by hard labor. And these people are by far not the minority of the work force. However, when oligarchic capitalism starts widely using illegal immigrants as work force, people, who are this way losing their jobs are at least not to blame. The claim that only "uneducated" losers complain about immigrants is just as idiotic.
Stanhope is awesome.
poor immigrants
"...from a fable, or some shit."
Even having spent weeks in Bucharest, later knocking up and marrying an amazing woman born in Timișoara...
I'm not sure I have a solid rebuttal. As an American, it'd be easier to pretend my kids were half Ukrainian than to identify some attribute significant enough to prove Romania exists.
(Before you ask, I've never heard my wife speak fondly of her early years, so I doubt she'd take offense.)
Not that I'm not laughing, but the "they turk our jerbs" thing is about the asians/indians (who are qualified and will just undercut your salary), and the criminal part is more about the illegal mexicans who surprise surprise, are actually committing a hell of a lot of crimes in addition to the whole "illegal immigrant" thing.
That's what happens when you conflate immigrant (legal or not) to mean Mexican.