Can I Sell Products from Someone Else's Crochet Pattern
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- I'm so often asked, "Can I sell products from someone else's pattern?" This is one of those things that keep many crochet business owners stuck. Let's talk about copyright for crochet patterns and whether or not you can sell from someone else's crochet design without express permission and what to do when they say no.
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Thank you for this! I get so scared about copyright claims that it puts me off selling my crochet items 🥺 x
Noooo. While it's important to consider whether or not you're infringing on copyright - it's a tough thing to do accidentally. Always listen to your gut. If it feels wrong, it probably it. If you're not sure, ask.
Most of the time I check or ask the designer to see if I can sell. And I'm doing some research.
I always check and I used to worry about selling things but now I feel better after knowing the truth
So you mentioned something about trademarks.. does that mean that crochetters that are selling well known characters are breaking the law by doing so? Thats so crazy.. I dont even see the point in crochetting if one cant make and sell a super well known character item .. thats what sells the most. Does one need a licence or can they sell ''inspired'' items at least?? Im starting to find this art business a little complicated tbh. I havent sold any items myself but what if I wanted to make and sell a Manga plushy or something? @@thecrochetpreneur
Thank you! I’ve been contacting all the designers for the items I wanted to make, lol. I now realize I didn’t have to do this but they have all been very gracious and told me how much they appreciated the ask.
I design patterns and I think designers really can not restrict what an individual person does with the finished item. To sell the finished item is not the problem in small scale production. The problem is when a large manufacturer takes your pattern and wholesales products by the hundreds or thousands using your design.
unless it's not a manufacturer using the design is ok to sell? I was a little confused by some designer saying you could sell the finished product on a small scale but not mass production. And I was thinking about where is the clear cut of how much you can sell, how much over would be considered as mass production. So I initially thought of selling 6/20 finished products from a designer's pattern(even though I would love to make and sell every single one, but maybe it's not good?) and doing a limited sale of only 10 for each
@@毛毛炫 If the pattern listing says no large scale production it means a large manufacturer that would produce hundreds or thousands. As a small seller selling say 50 in a year, you are good to go. Also, a recognition of the designer is always welcome.
@@katiedaniels3997 ok, thank you for your reply. And yes, I will definitely mention the designer who created the pattern.
Many designers do not mind if you sell an item created from their pattern as long as you specifically give them credit, by indicating they are the designer when selling the item. Always ask the designer for permission, first. Usually, they'll appreciate your advertising for the designer!
Absolutely. It's always a best practice to give credit where it's due. While asking isn't required, it's just respectful and could lead to a new friendship or collab opportunity, too!
Thank you for this video. This is a question that I had and you’ve answered it because I’m trying to supplement my income since I take care of my mom by crocheting simple things …I’m not an expert.
I've been everywhere trying to figure this out. Thank you!
Thanks! I was going to start my business but am not a designer. I was worried that I would use someone else's pattern to sell and it would be copyright.😅
Wow thank you for sharing all the informations! It’s so important to know all these rules and policies about crochet business. Please keep making videos like this. ❤️❤️❤️
I just find this video and thank you, i got answers to many questions i had. I just wish all pattern designers put on info if buyer can sell finish item, I bought bunch of patterns from one designer just to see after that i cant sell finish item, was a bit frustrated. Designs are amazing and i love them but its waste for me 🥺. I wish i buy just one first 😬😅. I will make sure i contact designer from now before purchase if there is no info about it
I didn't catch it in time so waited till I knew it would be over and watch!
How interesting! I have never came across this but then I don't buy patterns (I simply don't understand them, I need a youtube video :)) and I don't sell anything. I do vast cross stitch portraits and landscapes from a chart but again, don't sell it. It clogs up the wall space in our house :) It was a pleasure listening to you, you have a nice accent and a lovely way to speak.
I wish I would have come across your video years ago. Thank you so much. I love how you kept it informative, on topic and friendly. I enjoyed it very much.😊
Hi Pam,
Thank you for sharing this link with me and suggesting that I watch this video. It was very informative and has given me the knowledge I need to begin making products. I am so happy I found you on TH-cam.
I missed the live, but I caught up with you the next day. I do like your podcast and your TH-cam is good too- like the q&a. I am a LYS retailer trying to pivot and finding myself fearful of making a mistake - there are too many choices of ecommerce sites! I know you're a etsy seller, but for those of us who aren't "makers", we need a list of pros & cons to help with making decisions with this.
I haven’t listened yet but I’m hoping that we can do what I do.(not that I’ve sold a damn thing…I keep giving them away.
I get something in mind that I want to make so I listen to and combine stitches, techniques and extra things that one video doesn’t have
Yes, you're absolutely free to do that without worrying about infringing on anyone's intellectual property.
I'm wondering if combining multiple patterns together to design something completely unique is appropriate. For example, I'm currently working on my wedding dress. I took the sleeve pattern from one designer, created the bodice out of extending a top from another designer, and have added my own design to the back of the dress. Though the dress is comprised of elements from different designers, the design of the dress is completely new. I'd love to hear your thoughts on if it would be appropriate for me to create a tutorial for how I created my dress. I'm unclear if this crosses a line or not.
Your dress sounds amazing! In my opinion, it wouldn't be appropriate to write up the finalized dress design to sell because it's pulling so many pieces from other designers. However, if you wanted to create a tutorial (not step-by-step, including stitches) of how you did it, crediting each designer and linking to their patterns, while also getting permission from each designer to do so, that would be fine. The issue would come into play if you were sharing their actually stitches or rewriting their pattern to create your dress pattern for sale. In this case, while not illegal, it would cross the bounds, ethically.
Hello! Nice video ^^ Thought it was v helpful. I have a few questions:
1.) If I designed and made a simple amigurumi with a round body, but followed a free TH-cam tutorial on how to crochet the ball/round body, how would things be in that case? Like there would be certain parts of the design where I would use TH-cam videos as a guide. Another ex. would be if I designed and crocheted a headband from my own brain, but added an applique where I followed a tutorial on how to do it.
2.) What if someone asks for a commission, may it be a sweater or anything, and they want a design that they found on the internet. How would that work?
3.) Will also ask this just in case, what about sizing charts that I found from a free TH-cam tutorial? Is it ok to use that chart for patterns you plan on selling? For example, the chart says size small would have to be insert amt. of stitches. Can I put that in said pattern?
Thanks! 🙏🏼💯
Did you get any answers for these questions?
Thank you for this content! I'm a visual learner and have used TH-cam to create so many crochet projects. I'd love to help others and make visual tutorials on TH-cam. Is it appropriate to create tutorials based on free and public patterns (e.g. from Ravelry), linking the written pattern in the description?
I would also like to know
Very nice video and podcast! Thanks for being so kind and informative. I have two thoughts, in case you would be willing to weigh in.
1. I think going with one's gut is a good way to go when in doubt, but as a people pleaser/recovering religiously indoctrinated person/reformed adult student of the patriarchy, I am acutely aware that my instinct is usually to err on the side of others over myself. I guess my thought is, I want fewer women to do that. Then again, I guess that can apply to the person who would like to sell the completed work--and also the person who created the pattern. (I also know that not only women crochet for fun or profit :D )
2. Is there a resource for public domain patterns for crochet, knitting or other crafts?
Again, wonderful information. Thank you so much. :)
Thank you for sharing, answers a lot of questions. 🥰
i think its good in that mode if i go sell i go write design by example from yours The Crochetpreneur or ohter designs
I’ve just started selling handmade crotchet…I’m Australian based 🇦🇺😆🐞
Hi,
I'd like to ask, what if I followed the design from youtube, can I still sell the product?
Hi, the same rules apply. it's best to get explicit permission to sell the product but, barring that, you should be able to sell the product unless the designer explicitly says not to.
@@thecrochetpreneur Thank you so much😍
If I want to be a crochet designer, how do I start? What do I need to do to get start? And how to sell my patterns?
Yay! I'm excited that you're interested in starting to design. I do have a really afforadable class to help walk you through all the steps you need to get started with a simple design. You can find it here: crochetpreneur.thinkific.com Hope to see you on the inside!
Sorry about the quiet audio at the beginning of the podcast (5:00). It was fixed just as the actual podcast message started.
I feel like if I alter the make in any way, it’s not the same, the way music and the written word work. If I use different yarn/tools/size/purpose/or a different stitch here and there for a piece, it’s no longer the designer’s, it becomes unique free to sell?
Yes!! This is exactly what id like to know!
I would still consider that the designer's work. The designer still made most of the design. If you designed something that you didn't want any one profiting off it, would you be okay with someone selling your design just with a few tweaks?
As far as I, and most people I've spoken to, are concerned, no - this would not be a new, original design. Changing a few stitches here and there does not a designer make. So, this is a great way to tweak a design and make it your own, for your own use, for gifting, or for selling, but it seems to border on unethical to then type up the pattern and call it your own. It may be legal, depending on where you live, but not everything that is legal is right...if that makes sense. Hope that helps!
Can you make a youtube tutorial on free patterns? I want to, but I'm always so scared and not sure what the rules are. I have asked before, and they have said it was OK as long as I give credit. I'm not sure if this applies to everyone.
I so needed this video, today.
Hi, I have a question. Would it be considered copyright infringement if I crochet items from pictures that customers show me. So customers show me something that they want and I crochet it for them. Is that okay?
Hi when it says personal use does that mean I can give it as a gift to my friends?
I have the same question
I believe that means you just can’t sell it.
I understand this completely but I get confused in the area where free crochet and design meet. For an example: the other day I was following a market bag pattern from a pattern book. I got up to row 5 or so when I realized that I was already bored of the stitch design and wanted to make it more open and mesh. I pulled out a separate pattern treasury book to find a mesh stitch and then began working that stitch up on the base I already started from the bag pattern. I’m taking notes as I go so that I can redo this exactly the same in the future and even write it up technically for an official pattern. I’m curious if this is all the natural part of design or is this still not my own pattern. How many ways can someone write up a basic base for a market bag? Is it important that the design is unique or that just the intellectual property specifically such as the written pattern structure itself is unique?
Hey, great post. I have a question, “ is it ok to use the shape of a crochet pattern i seen online with a completely different stitch? Can i then write up a pattern for others to make?
If it's just the shape you're emulating, I believe that's fine..."you can't copyright an idea." So, as long as you design it yourself, work out the stitches/math, and write up the design in your own words, you're good to go.
@@thecrochetpreneur Thanks a lot for your reply as well as the video.
@@thecrochetpreneur I ran into a knitter that demanded I give her all my crocheted items that she claimed I had stolen her pattern. I had bought her pattern to see how much and what kind of fiber she had recommended. It did not say I couldn't sell any items made by the pattern. Since her pattern was knitting, I had to work out how to get a similar look in crochet (absolutely major knitting failure person here (not even funny, just awful)). Did not use her recommended yarns, as I make my items in wool or other natural fibers (she uses acrylics only).
I don't sell patterns (well, I tried on a different item), but doubtful anyone would attempt them (see above; never sold one pattern, even tho several sales of the actual product).
I had contacted the knitter before I listed two finished items on Etsy; she was happy she was getting a mention...then she wasn't. I didn't use any of her wording, photos, tags, but she blew up and threatened lawsuit. 😳
I contacted Etsy (she was really, really rude in her comments, so...) who must have talked to her. Etsy told me to take any mention of her or her shop out of my descriptions. It seemed to make her happy and I keep selling those items, so there's always two sides, I guess. She still sells her knit wear and patterns, altho I noticed that she says in her descriptions that they are "for personal use only" now, and they still sell.
Thanks for making this video I found it very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi, I'm SD McDaniel of Creative Craftopia. I'm a relatively new designer/seller. And I have somewhat of a different question for you. But first, I just want to say, I create crochet patterns (among other things). Each of my patterns state that I give permission for purchasers to sell products made from my patterns. I also state that I do not allow anyone to give, share or sell my PATTERNS, this is because I sell my patterns, and while I don't mind if you sell what you make from my patterns, I don't want someone else selling my patterns, because I sell them, and that is my time and effort (and money) to publish them.
My question is about crochet stitch patterns, such as the mosaic granny stitch, the alpine stich, the jasmine stitch or larkspur stitch. Is there a copyright on stitch patterns? If I write a pattern for, say, a sweater that utilizes the alpine stitch... what are the copyright ramifications of that?
Stitches are not copyrighted, on the written instructions to make the stitches. If you write your own instructions, in your own style, you are fine. However, this may not apply to all stitches. I vaguely remember someone getting a patent for one particular stitch but I don't remember which on it was.
Thank you so much for this information !😊😊
Annette
Have a lot of finished products that I would like to Sell
No i'm new, and I crochet and knit
I know this is a long time after this video but I watched it on the replay. Anyway. I am an online small business owner and was wondering how do I go about selling a designer's patterns on my website and what does that look like from the business perspective? Is it worth selling someone else's designs, because they should be profiting as well from it right?
Hi, without express permission, you wouldn't be able to sell any designer's pattern on your website as it is the designer's intellectual property. So, that's not really an option. If you want to promote particular designers, it is possible to create a blog post and link to the designer's pattern using an affiliate link. In that way, the designer receives his/her asking price buy you receive a small commission for referring the purchaser. For Etsy shops, you can do this by signing up for Awin. I wouldn't create an online shop that is linking just to other people's designs though. Instead, maybe you can monetize your own skills by identifying a product or service you can offer that you create rather than selling something someone else creates. That would be my recommendation.
Did you mean pattern? Or the finished product from the pattern?
Ma'am what if the video currently did not have anything related to resale or but later is updated with not to be sold tag
These would probably be a rarity but, if it did happen, I would say that you would only be bound by the request if it is made before you purchased the pattern. As with everything, if you're concerned, reach out to the designer and ask.
Hello, I like to sell crochet patterns but I am good enough that I can just look at a photo and just make it myself without the pattern. Although the pattern says cannot sell, copy, or distribute. Can I still make it since I never used there pattern.
Yes - if you are not infringing on copyright with the finished product made just as the pattern indicates, changing up the pattern will, also, not be infringing on copyright. Just be sure you're using a US pattern. Designers in other countries have different copyright protections. So, you'd need to check for those around the globe.
Hey I wanted to ask like there are some patterns(for crochet/macrame) that are extremely common and used all around the world... so that's not a problem right?
You would have to, specifically, check the requirements for the country in which the designer resides as that is where their particular copyrights come from. However, if it's a public domain type pattern, like for a granny square, you don't have to search out the exact designer before making the product. Otherwise, if you know the original designer, you could ask permission, your could credit them as the designer...all of these are respectful and kind ways to give back to the designer for their hard work.
What if I saw nice stitches on someone's shawl pattern and use it a bag? Is it copyright or moral codex infringement?
Very helpful.
Thank you.
Is this the same rules for selling Loomigurumi made by other people’s patterns ? X
Yes, as far as I understand it. It is only the written pattern that is copyright protected...not the finished product that you create. Note: some countries have different rules. So, it is best to check the location of the designer.
If a customer asks for a specific item that I don't have a pattern for but they've seen it somewhere and they describe it to me & I then make up something they're satisfied with based on that image they've seen but it came out of my head am I copying someone else's pattern?
Wonderful content. Thank you.
Do you sell the wrights to your videos or do you know anyone?
This may seem like an odd question but what about specific crochet not patterns but ( double crochet), ( moss stitch) etc. Can someone create a "new" stitch and keep you from selling anything from this. Can a stitch fall under pattern rules. Just a hypothetical.
Hi Cassiopia - this is a good question and I hear it often. The good news is that stitches, themselves, can't be copyrighted - only the written instructions for making that stitch. So, if you design a pattern using a double crochet and want to explain to the readers how to do the stitch, you'd have to write the instructions in your own words. You can combine any stitches you'd like to create a pattern/design.
I want to sell my amigurumi, but have been advised on Facebook that there is testing and regulations that have to be followed due to items such as plastic eyes. Is this true?
Yes. Any time you are selling products to be used by children, and sometimes other cases, you need to follow the safety rules associated with those products, as any other business might. You can learn more in the US Safety and Compliance Facebook group, right here: facebook.com/groups/usproductsafetycompliance
❤️😊🤗 thank you for this info...
You are so welcome.
Hello my goal is to be a seller.
I am a seller. Still on lockdown for infinity apparently till my governor will let us out.
Thank you for this information, I learned a lot.
So glad you found it helpful!