He didn't decide he wanted to go somewhere else. He just wants more money. No 3rd line d is worth 5 mil. No he's not a great player. He had like 20 points. Really good playoffs but still not worth 5 mil. Again that is already over paying.
5mil/season for a guy for is a third pairing guy? Run don't walk away. If he turns that down, only to get a few 100k more as a free agent, the Canucks did well to let him walk.
@@andygill6051alright I don’t think we need to go after him like that. He loved Vancouver, loved the fans, everything about our team and the city. Yeah he wants the 💰 and we’re not willing to overpay. No need to talk down on the guy though, just cut ties, I respect him for his time here. Someone will pay him just not us
Yep - what I told Canuck fans all through the 2nd round - Zadarov was going to over price himself, and good for Allvin for not overpaying him. That is how you run a hockey team and I hope our new GM has the same intestinal fortitude
UGH - they ALL say that! What you expect a player going into UFA but still under contract to say he doesn't? ANd it's what I warned all you knucklehead fans about - Zadorov was playing way over his head in the playoffs - he's not that good. If you'd paid him, his contract would've made Darnell Nurse's contract seem like a bargain. Good on Allvin and you should thank your lucky stars he (Zad) turned down that 5m deal as that is also way too much money for this a$$ clown
Allvin also jumped the gun signing Pettersson. He should have waited until the off-season as planned as he could have saved a few million due to his outstanding playoff performance. Anything over 5 for Z is overpaying, but look at what Meyers was making. I cant say that I blame him.
When you all watch Zadorov's overall body of work going forward I believe we will see that this was a great decision. His size and game alone warrants money for sure but he aint a $5mil+ Dman and y'all gonna see it
Heinen maybe would have been a decent replacement for DK but he's back. Unless they have to trade Hoglander I don't see the need. I'm 99% sure Dillion signs here.
Honestly, I watched BIG Z since he was picked up by the Flames. Towards the end that he demanded a trade during a live game in Toronto, hoping that Treliving would offer a trade for him. His teammates gave up on him months before, and Calgary Flames had some really good D-man at the time. Sorry, he has no class and isn't professional. Especially turning down 5-6 million from a playoff team like Vancouver. When he was traded to Calgary from Detroit, a lot of his teammates were happy when he was leaving town. Your team needs to beat Edmonton in the playoffs next year. Am cheering for both Vancouver or Winnipeg to bring the cup back home next year. As a Calgary Flames fan, go Flames go!
Idk if this matters at all, but during the All Star game this year, our boys picked Stammer with our very first pick. So it’s clear they like the guys and respect him and his skills.
Zadorov said he and his family loved Vancouver. Yah right. Proof is in the pudding. Zadorov like most players only cares about the money. Good on Alvin for sticking to his guns
that would be a mistake to pay him that amount. his 1st priority is money, not the cup. i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get a better offer. ba-bye, Z.
Good RHD have been paid in the 5m area for a decade now and cap has gone up a ton. If Zadorov can do what he does 22 minutes per night in the top 4 he should command 5.5-6m.
Z is a beauty. The best coach in the world thought so. I would have been happy with Z for 6. He brings intangibles like personality and brute force along with timely offence. I thought he won the Nashville series when he leveled josi. A traditional game breaker. Watch Nashville pay him lol.
He’s def a beauty. He was beautiful to watch in the defensive end. Minimal penalties. Solid solid hits. Paying $6 is one thing $6 and long term. Ugggggfg
So who else can the canucks sign that is Young enough to grow Plays well with quinn Rhd Can put up points His agent put it best, he's a unicorn that doesn't exsist anywhere else yet alvin found one
He will sign what he wants which is a huge contact but it will be on a bad team that has no chance at the playoffs for years from now like the Hawks or Sharks or maybe the Ducks. I hope he enjoys loosing
No way i believe he was offered 5 million, he just ain't worth that. Maybe on a one year deal before the OEL penalty really kicks in but not a chance on a long term deal. Sounds like some sucker is going to over pay him or he will circle back around on July 3rdish and take the 4x4 real contract. Who knows the silly season is July 1 and after that reality sets in. Lots of bad contracts signed on that day and the good ones come after that date and get better going into training camp. He will be back.
Big Z take the late offer....we want you here and your a good fit for a cup contending team.....that's worth more than what you'll end up somewhere else ! Your Agent is just worried about what he gets out of it....use your head Take our money !
What was all this nonsense Big Z blathered on about wanting to "stay in Vancouver?! That they're close to a deal 2 weeks ago, but just a few 100k off, and then he gets this offer and nopes out of it? I hope gets overpaid by some shitty team that won't make the playoffs and he never gets another run like 2024 again. Seems lies and greed are going to be Big Z's epitaph in his run in Vancouver and now it ends.
Bring Dillion . No Z or Guentzal. Pretty bloody lame. Lots of excuses. Still sucks. I dont really give a crap. G and Z not happening. Im greatly disappointed in our negotiating
Do you think if your boss is a great negotiator, he/she could get you to work for half of what you think you're worth? Not everything is negotiable, no matter how good the negotiator is.
I actually don’t think the Myers contract overpay tbh. I think what he got is VERY fair compared to why he got in his LAST contract and then he earned what he got from his playoff performance.
Who do you think they could have signed who is comparable for less? It's simple supply and demand. The supply of good young RHD's isn't high, but the demand is.
@@samy467 He got 48 points playing mostly with Hughes who got 92 points and he's getting paid only around $600,000 less than Hughes for the cap hit. If you don't think that is over paying, good for you. LMAO.
@@sucraf1 When QH43 signs his next contract, it will be a lot more than Hronek's. I'm pretty sure if the GM thinks they could sign someone much cheaper to complement QH, they would. Overpaying means one can sign someone equal or better for less. Name someone you think could sign on July 1st.
@@samy467 Over paying someone doesn't mean you can sign someone else. LMAO. People say they over paid Pettersson. No one is saying we should sign this other guy instead. If you still don't understand what over paid means, Nurse is over paid. Skinner was over paid and soon to be bought out. The list goes on. It has nothing to do with other guys you could sign instead. Haha.
Remember Jeff finger of the leafs he played well in the playoffs Ufa leafs sign him believe 4 million 3 yrs believe after 1 year he was a bust to the minors over pay same with David Clarkson one good year with a team leafs overpay him in Ufa 7 yrs believe 5.25 1 good year out of 7 was a bust ending on litr bad back gm don't over pay because has 1 good year
That’s great. But who are you going to sign that makes the team better right now! Canucks fans are sick of the big build up to the deadline and fizzle out with nothing. Can’t resign the players we traded for. Can’t sign anyone significant!
Too many GM's overpay. good on Allvin for standing his ground.
Having competent gm for a change feels great
Zadorov is asking for Stanley cup winner money only he didn't win the stanley cup.
He didn't decide he wanted to go somewhere else. He just wants more money. No 3rd line d is worth 5 mil. No he's not a great player. He had like 20 points. Really good playoffs but still not worth 5 mil. Again that is already over paying.
5mil/season for a guy for is a third pairing guy? Run don't walk away. If he turns that down, only to get a few 100k more as a free agent, the Canucks did well to let him walk.
no wonder hes on his 4th team in how many years?
@@andygill6051alright I don’t think we need to go after him like that. He loved Vancouver, loved the fans, everything about our team and the city. Yeah he wants the 💰 and we’re not willing to overpay. No need to talk down on the guy though, just cut ties, I respect him for his time here. Someone will pay him just not us
I am really liking the quality of Vancouver's Management group lately ,good job ,guys keep it up.
Yep - what I told Canuck fans all through the 2nd round - Zadarov was going to over price himself, and good for Allvin for not overpaying him. That is how you run a hockey team and I hope our new GM has the same intestinal fortitude
Now you understand why calgary traded him away. Lindolme is no different. They both want far more than they're worth
🤷 I thought he really wanted to stay....... Best of luck Big Z.
UGH - they ALL say that! What you expect a player going into UFA but still under contract to say he doesn't? ANd it's what I warned all you knucklehead fans about - Zadorov was playing way over his head in the playoffs - he's not that good. If you'd paid him, his contract would've made Darnell Nurse's contract seem like a bargain. Good on Allvin and you should thank your lucky stars he (Zad) turned down that 5m deal as that is also way too much money for this a$$ clown
Allvin also jumped the gun signing Pettersson. He should have waited until the off-season as planned as he could have saved a few million due to his outstanding playoff performance. Anything over 5 for Z is overpaying, but look at what Meyers was making. I cant say that I blame him.
Nah, Petey is gold!
I read somewhere Rutherford wanted the deal done, he didn't want to wait til the offseason with Petey
When you all watch Zadorov's overall body of work going forward I believe we will see that this was a great decision. His size and game alone warrants money for sure but he aint a $5mil+ Dman and y'all gonna see it
I think Toffoli and Dillon would be a good choice with still some cap money left over
It would be nice if he brought in some home town boys in Dillon and heinen
Heinen maybe would have been a decent replacement for DK but he's back. Unless they have to trade Hoglander I don't see the need.
I'm 99% sure Dillion signs here.
Honestly, I watched BIG Z since he was picked up by the Flames. Towards the end that he demanded a trade during a live game in Toronto, hoping that Treliving would offer a trade for him. His teammates gave up on him months before, and Calgary Flames had some really good D-man at the time. Sorry, he has no class and isn't professional. Especially turning down 5-6 million from a playoff team like Vancouver. When he was traded to Calgary from Detroit, a lot of his teammates were happy when he was leaving town. Your team needs to beat Edmonton in the playoffs next year. Am cheering for both Vancouver or Winnipeg to bring the cup back home next year. As a Calgary Flames fan, go Flames go!
I really think vancouver canucks should look at Stamkos really hard ❤
Agreed. Projected contract is 3 years $6.2M AAV would be a good signing. Wouldn't go over $6.5M AAV though.
@@jg465 yes u bet I mean even at 6.5 leaves us van with money to sign a Dman nd silovs
@@jg465 good leadership nd mentor for petey nd I think Stamkos will still produce 80 points for a couple of years
@@jg465 would b a big help on pp
Idk if this matters at all, but during the All Star game this year, our boys picked Stammer with our very first pick. So it’s clear they like the guys and respect him and his skills.
Reminds me of the Ehrhoff 2.0 lol
100%. Same situation with Anson Carter playing with the Sedins
Zadorov said he and his family loved Vancouver. Yah right. Proof is in the pudding. Zadorov like most players only cares about the money. Good on Alvin for sticking to his guns
Good, let him go. Thumbs up for Mr. Allvin
that would be a mistake to pay him that amount. his 1st priority is money, not the cup. i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get a better offer. ba-bye, Z.
Zadorov isn't worth 4 mill now 5 mill and up is just insane!! He is worth no more then 3.5mill a season, this has John klingberg written all over it
and petey is all worth it i hope
Hopefully Allvin won't be overpaying Guentzel
Guentzel is already gone. He resigned with Carolina
@@ryanschroth5222no one’s confirmed this yet
As an Oiler fan, I can attest to the long-term perils of overpaying a D-man.
Love big Z, but he’s too expensive. Hope he goes east: don’t want to play him!
love it, next man up.. grass is always greener and big z will look back and regret
Living in Vancouver obviously need to get paid more
Good RHD have been paid in the 5m area for a decade now and cap has gone up a ton. If Zadorov can do what he does 22 minutes per night in the top 4 he should command 5.5-6m.
Z is a beauty. The best coach in the world thought so. I would have been happy with Z for 6. He brings intangibles like personality and brute force along with timely offence. I thought he won the Nashville series when he leveled josi. A traditional game breaker. Watch Nashville pay him lol.
He’s def a beauty. He was beautiful to watch in the defensive end. Minimal penalties. Solid solid hits. Paying $6 is one thing $6 and long term. Ugggggfg
Well, we did overpaid Petey, which I do believe will it won't be a good contact and will be a buy out before the end of the 8 years is up.
I really hope he can find some toughness going forward or the Canucks are going to get beat up on the next playoff run.
“I can’t overpay anybody”
And yet he overpays Hronek
Show me another young RHD on the market that was signing??? He was projected to get 8 on the market tf you talking about.
@@JohnRedCorn79
I think you are both right.
So who else can the canucks sign that is
Young enough to grow
Plays well with quinn
Rhd
Can put up points
His agent put it best, he's a unicorn that doesn't exsist anywhere else yet alvin found one
EP40...
@@420darthbong find another contract of someone putting up those numbers for less
Looks like the reporters that said he was priced out were right
At least Allvin is wearing a cup with those cahonnies 😂
This is 1914's level sensationalism
As much as we love Big Z , I don’t think he’s going to top this years playoff performance. I like our management so much right now
So privileged being able too say no to 5 mil 7 mill , nah I’ll get more elsewhere , insane
He will sign what he wants which is a huge contact but it will be on a bad team that has no chance at the playoffs for years from now like the Hawks or Sharks or maybe the Ducks. I hope he enjoys loosing
Good on Allvin
Big Z took one too many shots to the head if he thinks he deserves Hughes type money
oh no
Hahaha,,only reason Hughes won the Norris is because Zadorov was in the lineup.....
big mistake
you dont take Z but you pay like 7.25x8 for hronek
really? we really want to stay in the basement for 5 more seasons?
7.5 to 8 more like it he is worth it
No way i believe he was offered 5 million, he just ain't worth that. Maybe on a one year deal before the OEL penalty really kicks in but not a chance on a long term deal. Sounds like some sucker is going to over pay him or he will circle back around on July 3rdish and take the 4x4 real contract. Who knows the silly season is July 1 and after that reality sets in. Lots of bad contracts signed on that day and the good ones come after that date and get better going into training camp. He will be back.
Big Z take the late offer....we want you here and your a good fit for a cup contending team.....that's worth more than what you'll end up somewhere else ! Your Agent is just worried about what he gets out of it....use your head Take our money !
Without Zadorov Canucks aren’t near as good
Zadorov should have taken the deal
Shouldv sign big z instead of Meyers
If the Canucks brought Lindholm / Zadorov they still aren’t good enough
This team is so mid
What was all this nonsense Big Z blathered on about wanting to "stay in Vancouver?! That they're close to a deal 2 weeks ago, but just a few 100k off, and then he gets this offer and nopes out of it? I hope gets overpaid by some shitty team that won't make the playoffs and he never gets another run like 2024 again. Seems lies and greed are going to be Big Z's epitaph in his run in Vancouver and now it ends.
Soooo True well said.....
Overpayment on petey
Bring Dillion . No Z or Guentzal. Pretty bloody lame. Lots of excuses. Still sucks. I dont really give a crap. G and Z not happening. Im greatly disappointed in our negotiating
Do you think if your boss is a great negotiator, he/she could get you to work for half of what you think you're worth? Not everything is negotiable, no matter how good the negotiator is.
So Myers isn't an overpay??? okay lol
I actually don’t think the Myers contract overpay tbh. I think what he got is VERY fair compared to why he got in his LAST contract and then he earned what he got from his playoff performance.
This seems like a Lucic ask - too much - sorry
Zadorov is good but not better than a competent winger for Petey.
I hope no one signs him and he goes to the KHL
I'm pretty sure he would retire before going back to Russia after all the things he has said about Putin.
lol no it all
Mr Z is not worth a high salary
Allvin,,hhhaaaa..93rd pick...Canuckless Canucks...
Sorry, but 7.25mil is overpaying HRONEK. LOL.
Who do you think they could have signed who is comparable for less? It's simple supply and demand. The supply of good young RHD's isn't high, but the demand is.
@@samy467 He got 48 points playing mostly with Hughes who got 92 points and he's getting paid only around $600,000 less than Hughes for the cap hit. If you don't think that is over paying, good for you. LMAO.
@@sucraf1 When QH43 signs his next contract, it will be a lot more than Hronek's. I'm pretty sure if the GM thinks they could sign someone much cheaper to complement QH, they would. Overpaying means one can sign someone equal or better for less. Name someone you think could sign on July 1st.
@@samy467 Over paying someone doesn't mean you can sign someone else. LMAO. People say they over paid Pettersson. No one is saying we should sign this other guy instead. If you still don't understand what over paid means, Nurse is over paid. Skinner was over paid and soon to be bought out. The list goes on. It has nothing to do with other guys you could sign instead. Haha.
Remember Jeff finger of the leafs he played well in the playoffs Ufa leafs sign him believe 4 million 3 yrs believe after 1 year he was a bust to the minors over pay same with David Clarkson one good year with a team leafs overpay him in Ufa 7 yrs believe 5.25 1 good year out of 7 was a bust ending on litr bad back gm don't over pay because has 1 good year
That’s great. But who are you going to sign that makes the team better right now! Canucks fans are sick of the big build up to the deadline and fizzle out with nothing. Can’t resign the players we traded for. Can’t sign anyone significant!