Mixing/mastering engineer/music maker here -- I think this entire album is intended to be somewhat muddy. It's a decision. A clean mix is really not what you want at all times -- it can feel too stiff or dead/lifeless if you're not careful making everything super clean and crisp. Top 40 pop is notorious for absolutely clean mixing/mastering and it serves its purposes for those songs, but you don't want that at all times especially on this type of album. You also see a lot of muddy mixing in modern vamp/rage type music which Ye might be emulating at points. Also -- songs you're listening to aren't uniform in sound level almost ever. They often contain "automations" which are really parts where you're ducking certain parts of a sound or amplifying others to keep it consistent throughout. You would NOT want your vocal to be at the same level of your drums or the rest of the instrumentation because it would get lost in the mix. Similar sound frequencies cancel one another out. Devil in A New Dress is supposed to sound CLASSY and clean and crispy because it's a fantasy and that entire album is about precision and high-art. Whereas this album literally has a track called "FRIED". It's a fried sound. A burnt sound. That's at least what I imagine is going on with the mix. Not to say it's a good decision haha.
Now put into context, that cover of this album was vulture in the middle of desert, that might actually even explain ''lifeless'' part you talked about. Also this album ''defacto'' (without bonus tracks) ending with TC rapping / signing over a mic between him jailglass, it might also point out that this album isn't supposed to sound clean, nor polished, but just as rough as sound of VULTURES.
@@InchonDM " why are we even entertaining" Who the fuck cares, he's not gonna ask you nor is he charging you, like the disgrace that was donda 2. You're not that guy pal.
@@NarutoStorm3Rocks I... don't know why you think I think he does? It's a comments section, I'm commenting what I think about this BAFFLING idea of updating albums after releasing them. I wasn't aware that wasn't what a comments section was for.
I actually like the album in moments. Feel like the biggest kicker is what could have been but it’s clear Ye just doesn’t care as much, he’s already done it all in his career. Every artist falls off at some point.
I think that he still has that in him,but he has too much stuff going on around him that distracts him of making greatness. Also he is rather lazy so there’s that too
@@youngmythi mean putting Ai verses, doing fixes to songs and still not finishing the verses its a sign of laziness to me. Idk really i just hope whenever he decides to drop new album its actually finished and polished product
He aint hungry anymore, thats the thing. When's the last time he made a song like all falls down. He doesnt rap abt anything anymore, he just writes as many anthems as he can and hopes one makes it to tik tok now
9:38 no i just don’t think he himself takes care of the end product anymore, he just lets other people handle it. Irko, who does the mixing, just didn’t do a great job on some songs like 530, but I think they just never had a decent quality file of that song. Irko did a great job on Donda, idk how he’s not hearing some of the still very apparent issues on V2. And Ye is too lazy to care these days i think he wants to move on from Vultures.
overhated if it was just an album by any artist, but it's kanye and the decline in quality is soo noticable from donda, literally just unfinished tracks all around
@@jamielusexactly. Future has multiple albums that are as lazy or more than this and he’s still a legend for example, it’s just Kanye is known for being a perfectionist and this is a departure from that completely
@@simonlemay2298still an unfinished track, an ai verse, Bomb and Husband. Dead and Promotion aren’t mixed great. just pretty bad delivery wise too, besides some of Ty’s parts
Even though Ye is my favorite artist of all time, and I still stand strongly with the Vultures "idea", it is undeniable that V2 was and still is a disaster. The quality of the songs are not up to the standard that Ye himself set. It's not a New Ye vs Old Ye battle anymore; it's him not being able to (for whatever reason) still put out the music that he loves making while at the same time it being genuinely good in therms of quality and pushing the limits just like he always has. With all of this said, I still have hope for V3.
i think it was only river to my soul that was fixed [so far?] bc they're now placed later on than they were before. Slide to forever rolling is the same afaik'
The fact that engaging with art as dishonestly as you did with 530 is considered honesty in this day and age is exactly what is wrong with music review culture today. I don't need to tell you that the speaker on 530 is sending an apology for drunk texts while still drunk struggling to find the words to describe his broken relationship and therefore "mumbles", you have ears, you're literate, you can hear a chipmunked Ty singing "barely holding on", you can hear Ye say "tryna write what's left of us", you can hear Ye on My Soul say "what if I hum the beginning, fuck up the middle part and mumble the ending, it just feels better in my humble opinion", you claim to have listened to Kanye his entire career, so you know about him rapping with a broken jaw on Through The Wire and singing on 808s and All Of The Lights and Yeezus and Runaway and Feedback and all the other times the man has chosen to be unconventional for the sake of a song's concept, so again I don't need to tell you any of that, you took all that in before you decided to do your review I'm sure. Instead I'm gonna tell you what no-one else will, right when you need to hear it: treating 530 differently, that is, denying the song's concept and instead choosing to call it unfinished, that is anti-art, and no amount of clout and internet praise for aligning with the ongoing narrative against Kanye is ever gonna result in anything equal to the art you refuse to respect, and that goes for art of any kind. Criticism and review has its place, but it sure as hell isn't above the art it depends on. Rethink your place, because there'll be money in it either way, praise in it either way, but only one path promises a battle you cannot hope to win.
@@riccardo5573 cause he didn’t even write any of the verse on My Soul you can find the reference track for it online still, ye changed like 2 words total. Nothing about 530 is intentional, it is a TH-cam to mp3 rip of an unfinished song that’s been leaked for 2 years. They put it out the way it is cause ye is lazy now. Comparing that to the fucking outro of runaway is crazy
@riccardo5573 arrowstar wrote that verse. It's literally the exact same lyrics as the arrowstar reference track which was made in 2020 (gods country era). 530 was made during donda 2 sessions multiple years later. They are not connected and you don't know what the fuck you are talking about
There’s forced hate and forced love. I like it lot - but the sad thing is, the botched release ruins that first impression. It definitely feels like your mind was made up from the start. Again, it’s on them, just how it is. The attitude and look on your face before it started.. during the song by his small children.. Promotion is misogynistic but praising Drake? I legitimately think it’s impossible for people to have an open mind on a patched album.
Everybody felt the same way about runaway as they do about 530 oh he should’ve ended it he should’ve finished it I don’t know what he’s saying and now it’s a classic maybe give it 10 years to I don’t know
Coming from a Kanye Stan, it’s extremely didsapointing that 3 of the unreleased songs are better than the whole released album. Its lazy and unacceptable
530 is so annoying because the first half is actually very good even though there’s obviously mixing issues but why is the second half even there? It’s the same leak we heard 3 years ago of the song 🤦♂️
I’m a big Ye fan and I’m saying this, Vultures 1 was a lil rough when it came out, then it had its tweaks then became amazing. Vultures 2 has very much potential to become great. Songs are great but just need to be properly mixed and not half. I felt like ppl was rushing it and they just dropped it just to give it to em. Thats just me tho, I still like the album just wish it was a better mix. Jon said all the words I wanted to say😭
I accept its an experimental album, which has worked for him in the past.. and are absolute masterpieces, but this aint it. Ty sounded amazing in the live version they just put out from a set in Korea, I dont get how the studio version is like this
I think your various points about ye are correct, as to why the album is still awful - his hearing might actually be worse and/or he needs a team who aren't all just yes-men glazing his every action or alternatively vultures tearing him apart. He needs people who care for him and also will be honest. Kanye needs help. #saveye
It’s funny because they totally ruined TC’s outro on MY SOUL, listen to the original and then the new version; the vocals have been ruined TC going off pitch on the highlight notes in the performance where in the original drop he was getting those notes perfect. Ye surrounded by incompetent Gen Z dorks demanding higher pay cheques for terrible work.
Things you could check related to this (if you haven't....) TIME MOVING SLOW leak version (the one they played at radio) LIFESTYLE (recently leaked version, it has trap drums and doesnt have a kanye verse, but ty dolla sign's performance is amazing) FOREVER ROLLIN (original version, same verses but the original has a more unique sound) TAKE OFF YOUR DRESS (on youtube but from deluxe album) GUN TO MY HEAD (was supposed to be on the album but now on deluxe) and best of all just listen to spectre's version. since you hate 530, there you'll absolutely love it. Actually just react to the entire spectre version. Closest thing to finished vultures 2
The songs themselves are fundamentally bad. It doesn't matter if the mixing gets better, lyrically and sonically the songs are just ass. Vultures 2 can never get better with these tracks on it.
Bro wanted to like the album in the beginning but remember the internet told him it’s bad so he’s nitpicking every little thing. He’d think Runaway was unfinished if social media declared it was
Jon love ya channel. I agree wouldn't say "FIXED" more like improved . Now if you could react to the 5 songs from the deluxe they are soooo fun and good I really enjoyed them!
Kanye proves every day why he was so dependent on Universal Music to make his albums sound epic... Since his breakup with Universal, all of his music sounds poorly mixed and often empty. I mean, I like Kanye but it's undeniable that before he had the support of a huge team at Universal and today he depends on those who are still his friends...
Ty tried his best to carry this project I will never forgive Ye for cutting his GENERATIONAL verse off😭 This album had so much potential but Ye fumbled it
I mean it wouldn't be surprising if his hearing isn't great for sure. However that's probably a small part of the issues of Kanye at the moment. The guy has real life serious mental issues, seems to always be wrapped up in some wild shit, is probably surrounded by yes men and/or people with their own issues that are just happy to profit off the guy. I could go on and on, and I don't even keep up with the Industry and the people any more so there's probably a lot of other shit I don't even know about. I'm surprised the guy is still making music at all tbh.
SLIDE - 0:36
i give up
you did good.
Good try, next time
A for effort it's the thought that counts really
ts funny ash😂😂imma follow ur girl
1:45 Time moving slow
I'm pretty sure the TC (Ty Dolla Sign's brother) verse at the end of 'My Soul' was recorded in prison, so it explains the poor quality.
it was, through the prison phone thing for family and friends that visit
Slide: 0:36
Time moving slow: 1:45
Field trip: 3:34
Fried: 6:01
Isabella: 7:41
Promotion: 7:47
530: 10:40
Dead: 13:48
Forever rolling: 14:20
Bomb: 14:58
River: 15:30
Forever: 16:54
Husband: 17:38
Lifestyle: 18:32
Sky city: 20:46
My soul: 21:56
Goat
You put more effort into this than Ye did
River sounds amazing now
What’s this unreleased album? Kanye hasn’t dropped anything since Donda in 2021
Exactly 😂
Huh? Vultures 1 & 2 w/Ty Dolla $ign was HEAVILY PUSHED by the both of them for months, multiple major listening parties for both.
@@SeanGoGetItTV shut up 🤦♂️
Last verse is accepted as shit quality, for he is in prison
nah, Tory Lanez got good ass jail quality sounding vocals
@@Bart_Kelk oh right:D
@@Bart_Kelkwe don't know from when the TC verse is, it could be from like 8 years ago
@@Bart_Kelkusing AI. That's why. There's no voice model for Big TC lol
@@Bart_KelkHe got a whole ass studio taken away 😂
I am pretty sure that the last part on my soul is recorded over jail and thats the reason of its quality.
Bro was like a teacher mad at Kanye for turning in his homework wrong 😭
530 is not the track to say Kanye lost his ear for samples cmon
He is just saying he mix was off
@@daddyc1707 bro watch it again are u deaf?
@@DeinoTV try watching it one more time so you understand better buddy
@@daddyc1707 Bro 9:38 … i don’t Need to say more, you lost your ear as well u i guess
@@daddyc1707 9:38 for YOU AGAIN, bro your hearing is fcked as well hahahaha
Jon Denton is the only guy that I can’t skip a single video
Mixing/mastering engineer/music maker here -- I think this entire album is intended to be somewhat muddy.
It's a decision.
A clean mix is really not what you want at all times -- it can feel too stiff or dead/lifeless if you're not careful making everything super clean and crisp.
Top 40 pop is notorious for absolutely clean mixing/mastering and it serves its purposes for those songs, but you don't want that at all times especially on this type of album.
You also see a lot of muddy mixing in modern vamp/rage type music which Ye might be emulating at points.
Also -- songs you're listening to aren't uniform in sound level almost ever. They often contain "automations" which are really parts where you're ducking certain parts of a sound or amplifying others to keep it consistent throughout.
You would NOT want your vocal to be at the same level of your drums or the rest of the instrumentation because it would get lost in the mix. Similar sound frequencies cancel one another out.
Devil in A New Dress is supposed to sound CLASSY and clean and crispy because it's a fantasy and that entire album is about precision and high-art.
Whereas this album literally has a track called "FRIED". It's a fried sound. A burnt sound.
That's at least what I imagine is going on with the mix. Not to say it's a good decision haha.
Now put into context, that cover of this album was vulture in the middle of desert, that might actually even explain ''lifeless'' part you talked about.
Also this album ''defacto'' (without bonus tracks) ending with TC rapping / signing over a mic between him jailglass, it might also point out that this album isn't supposed to sound clean, nor polished, but just as rough as sound of VULTURES.
Ye albums been like this since MBDTF, I don't know why everyone's surprised.
15:18 Bros rethinking his life decisions
HAHAAHA
thought he was reacting to my version for a second 😭😭
He should
you the goat
Bro ur guilt trip and stronger edits r 🔥
bloody hell man
the SQUALAY copycat
Whole album really shows the lack of Mike Dean
And Noah Goldstein
Nuh uh, it's not "lack of [a person]" it's Kanye's brain getting fried by the nitrous. It just ain't mixed.
@@TTTTTTTTT853 hes been off it for months
its just kanye being off donda was alot more coherent that this
Eh not rlly
the last verse on the album was recorded from prison
My soul hate 💔💔
I don’t get the hate at all solid song and ofc the mic is gonna be shitty TC was recording from prison😭
@@RedPandaChannelbro was hating for no reason, he doesn’t know anything ab music
Jon is usally very well rounded. He was probably burnt out by the time he hit My Soul@techie_reviews
Short answer - no
My answer: why are we even entertaining the idea of letting a guy hotpatch an album after release like it's a AAA game
And also, no
River and Time Moving Slow are good but the rest is unlistenable
@@InchonDM " why are we even entertaining" Who the fuck cares, he's not gonna ask you nor is he charging you, like the disgrace that was donda 2.
You're not that guy pal.
@@NarutoStorm3Rocks I... don't know why you think I think he does?
It's a comments section, I'm commenting what I think about this BAFFLING idea of updating albums after releasing them. I wasn't aware that wasn't what a comments section was for.
Long answer: noooooooooo
River is genuinely a good song that really comes the closest to Kanye’s other projects, it sounds like it could’ve been on Donda. It’s good.
That’s what I‘m saying
I’m really surprised that you appear to not be reacting to ultra 85
Waiting for that 🤞
I actually like the album in moments. Feel like the biggest kicker is what could have been but it’s clear Ye just doesn’t care as much, he’s already done it all in his career. Every artist falls off at some point.
I think that he still has that in him,but he has too much stuff going on around him that distracts him of making greatness. Also he is rather lazy so there’s that too
@@gt1717tlol I doubt Kanye west is lazy. Maybe distracted and without a centering force in his life anymore
@@youngmythi mean putting Ai verses, doing fixes to songs and still not finishing the verses its a sign of laziness to me. Idk really i just hope whenever he decides to drop new album its actually finished and polished product
He aint hungry anymore, thats the thing. When's the last time he made a song like all falls down. He doesnt rap abt anything anymore, he just writes as many anthems as he can and hopes one makes it to tik tok now
He’s just off the nitrous prolly very limited brain function
Your editing are on point, appreciated it!
My soul’s last part was recorded over a phone in jail since who sings there is Ty’s brother who’s locked up
I love that distorted static sound of Dead. It's a filthy song and it sounds gritty. Very enjoyable when I blast it in the car.
I hate Ty dolla signs slow paced verse
it sounds awful imo. they fixed the mix then fucked it up again
@@crowdyhouse8417same
@pandet that's the beauty about music, we all have different tastes
Honestly I hate that song it sounds like a demo and future sounds horrible imo
You deserve way more views!
Finally!!! Lets go Jon. PLEASE REACT TO ULTRA 85.
Yes please 💯
STFU THAT ALBUM MID AF STOP HYPING IT UP
The missing piece to this album is Mike Dean and the same goes for V1
You should check out the bonus track take off your dress. It shows that Kanye can still make great music when he isn’t being lazy
Slide: 0:36
Time moving slow: 1:45
Field trip: 3:34
Fried: 6:01
Isabella: 7:41
Promotion: 7:47
530: 10:40
Dead: 13:48
Forever rolling: 14:20
Bomb: 14:58
River: 15:30
Forever: 16:54
Husband: 17:38
Lifestyle: 18:32
Sky city: 20:46
My soul: 21:56
I honestly think he’s gotten so complacent and stopped caring and I’ve loved him since 04
I like quite a few tracks on this album, but I can't help but think how much better it would sound if he actually cared to finish it. 😂
Im a Ye glazer and yall can say wtf yall want about any of the songs in this album BUT not about 530 (the first half), I think its incredible
i’m a glazed glazer, the whole album is goated
Kanye’s verse on field trip is also ai btw
Low key his hearing might be F ed
after listening to this album it may be
530 is my favorite song on the album idk why
9:38 no i just don’t think he himself takes care of the end product anymore, he just lets other people handle it. Irko, who does the mixing, just didn’t do a great job on some songs like 530, but I think they just never had a decent quality file of that song. Irko did a great job on Donda, idk how he’s not hearing some of the still very apparent issues on V2. And Ye is too lazy to care these days i think he wants to move on from Vultures.
if you want a michelin star version of "SKY CITY" play the OG version from Yandhi.
the last song was Ty’s brother recording from prison hence why the vocals sounded quite poor.
SLIDE - 0:36
TIME MOVING SLOW - 8:25
FIELD TRIP - 7:41
FRIED - 9:51
ISABELLA - 10:40
PROMOTION - 11:28
530 - 0:51
DEAD - 8:04
FOREVER ROLLING - 13:15
BOMB - 13:58
RIVER - 15:14
FOREVER - 16:10
HUSBAND - 16:24
LIFESTYLE - 17:38
SKY CITY - 18:35
MY SOUL - 19:42
i lied
💀
@@kylerdies5248bro I thought I was going crazy for a second that 530 timestamp fucked my whole day up
What was the point of doing this?
You had one job 😭
Albums are now coming with DLCs and software updates 😂😂😂
Bug fixes lol
To be fair, kanye didnt want to release it yet. Remember when everyone was pushing him to release it and now we are complaining it sounds unfinished
Never ever ever give Kanye the blame hahahaha
please don't defend him
Vultures 2 is 🔥, stop
this album is overhated AF
River is good
overhated if it was just an album by any artist, but it's kanye and the decline in quality is soo noticable from donda, literally just unfinished tracks all around
@@jamielusthere’s 1 unfinished track. What was unfinished was the mixes, which are all done now
@@jamielusexactly. Future has multiple albums that are as lazy or more than this and he’s still a legend for example, it’s just Kanye is known for being a perfectionist and this is a departure from that completely
@@simonlemay2298still an unfinished track, an ai verse, Bomb and Husband. Dead and Promotion aren’t mixed great. just pretty bad delivery wise too, besides some of Ty’s parts
Ye needs to delete both Vultures and retire with Donda
9:01 BOI!! it’s meant to sound raw & dirty , when you’re at War all that sh!t ain’t clean.
You gotta do a new reaction to it, it’s been updated quite a bit, you should also listen to the deluxe songs
yeah im disapointed about 530 too, im pretty sure he just got the unfinished donda 2 demo then published that, its just lazy
sry but u legit dont get 530. he's drinking patron, and towards the end he's drunk as hell, it rly makes sense and it's kinda beautiful
its very clearly not that, this is very clearly just his unfinished mumble bro, stop coping
Even though Ye is my favorite artist of all time, and I still stand strongly with the Vultures "idea", it is undeniable that V2 was and still is a disaster. The quality of the songs are not up to the standard that Ye himself set. It's not a New Ye vs Old Ye battle anymore; it's him not being able to (for whatever reason) still put out the music that he loves making while at the same time it being genuinely good in therms of quality and pushing the limits just like he always has.
With all of this said, I still have hope for V3.
i think it was only river to my soul that was fixed [so far?] bc they're now placed later on than they were before. Slide to forever rolling is the same afaik'
REACT TO ULTRA 85 PLSSSS
Why are you not reacting to Ultra 85
He genuinely looked dead inside between the stretch of 530 to Bomb😆
4:09 What Kind Of Music Is This Called?
Cartis genre is “burnt music”
The fact that engaging with art as dishonestly as you did with 530 is considered honesty in this day and age is exactly what is wrong with music review culture today. I don't need to tell you that the speaker on 530 is sending an apology for drunk texts while still drunk struggling to find the words to describe his broken relationship and therefore "mumbles", you have ears, you're literate, you can hear a chipmunked Ty singing "barely holding on", you can hear Ye say "tryna write what's left of us", you can hear Ye on My Soul say "what if I hum the beginning, fuck up the middle part and mumble the ending, it just feels better in my humble opinion", you claim to have listened to Kanye his entire career, so you know about him rapping with a broken jaw on Through The Wire and singing on 808s and All Of The Lights and Yeezus and Runaway and Feedback and all the other times the man has chosen to be unconventional for the sake of a song's concept, so again I don't need to tell you any of that, you took all that in before you decided to do your review I'm sure.
Instead I'm gonna tell you what no-one else will, right when you need to hear it: treating 530 differently, that is, denying the song's concept and instead choosing to call it unfinished, that is anti-art, and no amount of clout and internet praise for aligning with the ongoing narrative against Kanye is ever gonna result in anything equal to the art you refuse to respect, and that goes for art of any kind. Criticism and review has its place, but it sure as hell isn't above the art it depends on. Rethink your place, because there'll be money in it either way, praise in it either way, but only one path promises a battle you cannot hope to win.
its an unfinished verse bro he mumbles all the time in his demos, he quite literally just released a demo. also the album sucks.
@@wavesref334So explain why he says that stuff in My Soul then
@@riccardo5573 cause he didn’t even write any of the verse on My Soul you can find the reference track for it online still, ye changed like 2 words total. Nothing about 530 is intentional, it is a TH-cam to mp3 rip of an unfinished song that’s been leaked for 2 years. They put it out the way it is cause ye is lazy now. Comparing that to the fucking outro of runaway is crazy
very well said
@riccardo5573 arrowstar wrote that verse. It's literally the exact same lyrics as the arrowstar reference track which was made in 2020 (gods country era). 530 was made during donda 2 sessions multiple years later. They are not connected and you don't know what the fuck you are talking about
GREATEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME!!!!!!🎉
how can you hate my soul smh
The sound/music quality dipped since Mike Dean left Ye's camp
River is one of the best songs of 2024 tbh
The AI on sky city is unforgivable
It’s not AI
@@wnbayoungboy6355 it has been confirmed by a producer
There’s forced hate and forced love. I like it lot - but the sad thing is, the botched release ruins that first impression. It definitely feels like your mind was made up from the start. Again, it’s on them, just how it is. The attitude and look on your face before it started.. during the song by his small children.. Promotion is misogynistic but praising Drake? I legitimately think it’s impossible for people to have an open mind on a patched album.
That was the incorrect reaction to Promotion, Jon.
Not good at all terrible lyrics
@@viktormakesbeats3692which ones were terrible?
nothing special about that song
@@MilanMilan0000vibes are immaculate
Everybody felt the same way about runaway as they do about 530 oh he should’ve ended it he should’ve finished it I don’t know what he’s saying and now it’s a classic maybe give it 10 years to I don’t know
Coming from a Kanye Stan, it’s extremely didsapointing that 3 of the unreleased songs are better than the whole released album. Its lazy and unacceptable
its great bro
johns forgetting about wagwan delilah
Exactly my thoughts. As if drake hasn’t put out trash cringy songs 😂
@jackninetynine5036 I agree that drake's output has not been great, but at least his songs are complete upon release.
530 is so annoying because the first half is actually very good even though there’s obviously mixing issues but why is the second half even there? It’s the same leak we heard 3 years ago of the song 🤦♂️
I’m a big Ye fan and I’m saying this, Vultures 1 was a lil rough when it came out, then it had its tweaks then became amazing. Vultures 2 has very much potential to become great. Songs are great but just need to be properly mixed and not half. I felt like ppl was rushing it and they just dropped it just to give it to em. Thats just me tho, I still like the album just wish it was a better mix. Jon said all the words I wanted to say😭
there ain't no fixin this trainwreck
Last verse on the album is Ty's brother recording from prison mate of course it sounds bad
It's slide and river for me
I accept its an experimental album, which has worked for him in the past.. and are absolute masterpieces, but this aint it. Ty sounded amazing in the live version they just put out from a set in Korea, I dont get how the studio version is like this
Elnora Courts
i like the tracks he hates and hate the tracks he likes 😭
you gotta hear take off your dress on the deluxe the mix is good and ye actually desides to rap good
Kanye needs to be redeemed
its a collab
Finally after soo long
I think your various points about ye are correct, as to why the album is still awful - his hearing might actually be worse and/or he needs a team who aren't all just yes-men glazing his every action or alternatively vultures tearing him apart. He needs people who care for him and also will be honest. Kanye needs help. #saveye
So appalled, no pun intended there Jon
It’s funny because they totally ruined TC’s outro on MY SOUL, listen to the original and then the new version; the vocals have been ruined TC going off pitch on the highlight notes in the performance where in the original drop he was getting those notes perfect. Ye surrounded by incompetent Gen Z dorks demanding higher pay cheques for terrible work.
It’s never Kanye’s fault ;)
There are some good moments but he should've finished these songs and released earlier in the year when he had the momentum
Jon we need a reaction to the bonus track Take Off Your Dress!
Lifestyle is the best song on the album
i have been waiting so long to see your reaction about post album 😞
Ye needs to get Mike Dean back! And he needs to take music (lyrics) seriously
Things you could check related to this (if you haven't....)
TIME MOVING SLOW leak version (the one they played at radio)
LIFESTYLE (recently leaked version, it has trap drums and doesnt have a kanye verse, but ty dolla sign's performance is amazing)
FOREVER ROLLIN (original version, same verses but the original has a more unique sound)
TAKE OFF YOUR DRESS (on youtube but from deluxe album)
GUN TO MY HEAD (was supposed to be on the album but now on deluxe)
and best of all just listen to spectre's version. since you hate 530, there you'll absolutely love it. Actually just react to the entire spectre version. Closest thing to finished vultures 2
Forever rolling OG is trash, this new version is way better
@@Comatose_Rat i like both versions, I've heard a lotta people say they like old
At least it's worth checking out
The songs themselves are fundamentally bad. It doesn't matter if the mixing gets better, lyrically and sonically the songs are just ass. Vultures 2 can never get better with these tracks on it.
666 in the name. You’re opinion is influenced by the devil.
Not true at all lmao, how is City in the Sky(without the ai), River, Fried fundamentally bad songs?
@@indoorplant2392wow 3 songs out of 16, must be a masterpiece then
Denton turning into a hater as well loll I understand it’s not S tier Ye but there’s some amazing tracks on there.
Kanye just sucks ass now man its okay, you can quit coping he’ll always be a legend for his run up to 2013
When he said River needed more time… like no dawg
My Soul was changed heavily and it went from being mid to one of my favorites
The fact you guys actually thing this is Kanye is hilarious to me. Kanye is long gone. This is AI😅😅😅
Bro wanted to like the album in the beginning but remember the internet told him it’s bad so he’s nitpicking every little thing. He’d think Runaway was unfinished if social media declared it was
Jon love ya channel. I agree wouldn't say "FIXED" more like improved . Now if you could react to the 5 songs from the deluxe they are soooo fun and good I really enjoyed them!
Imagine the good off those plus the good off of V1, a legit really good album
Kanye proves every day why he was so dependent on Universal Music to make his albums sound epic... Since his breakup with Universal, all of his music sounds poorly mixed and often empty. I mean, I like Kanye but it's undeniable that before he had the support of a huge team at Universal and today he depends on those who are still his friends...
Jon??? Did U Forgor? About Falling Back By Drake??? 530 Outro & Falling Back Are Same Level
This album could literally be generational and people would still hate on it based on how it was on release, damn it Ye
React to Ultra 85 by Logic please Jon Sir! 💜
Ty tried his best to carry this project
I will never forgive Ye for cutting his GENERATIONAL verse off😭
This album had so much potential but Ye fumbled it
I mean it wouldn't be surprising if his hearing isn't great for sure. However that's probably a small part of the issues of Kanye at the moment. The guy has real life serious mental issues, seems to always be wrapped up in some wild shit, is probably surrounded by yes men and/or people with their own issues that are just happy to profit off the guy. I could go on and on, and I don't even keep up with the Industry and the people any more so there's probably a lot of other shit I don't even know about. I'm surprised the guy is still making music at all tbh.
Album has some skips for sure but I don’t think it’s that bad still. I have a lot of these songs in my rotation 1 month later
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