Why are PS speakers taking so long?

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  • @mattgiunt
    @mattgiunt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Well I think these speakers are beautiful and since you are not going to sell them, can I have a pair?

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They look fine. Matte black on the front is great since many will have these in a theater. You don't want glare. However, I do like polished finishes.
      Just provide piano gloss side panels which don't bulge so much and be done with it.

    • @skymarshallmarz5573
      @skymarshallmarz5573 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh me tooooo!

    • @bananasplitbrain476
      @bananasplitbrain476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the old ones looked waaaay better!

    • @ThinkingBetter
      @ThinkingBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seems PS audio is working without schedule on the speaker project.

  • @RJ_Chicago
    @RJ_Chicago 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Paul, one other thing: I think the version of speaker you have in the video looks great. Have you seen the way Wilson Audio speakers look? Please do NOT sacrifice any sound quality or measurements in order to make it look just a little nicer. John Atkinson is not going to measure how well they look. Stereophile and TAS are not going to ignore SQ and wax on about how great they look! My advice is to get this done and get them to AXPONA. Good luck.

  • @sirsmarty274
    @sirsmarty274 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I dont see anything wrong with the speaker appearance.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The speakers are not the best or the worst for looks. They're solidly and respectably in the middle.
      They're perfectly fine and should have been selling. The profits made could have been used to improve the subjective looks of version 2.
      Instead there's ever increasing delays and prices. Not good.

    • @54461jessy
      @54461jessy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appearance is a purely subjective thing, just that your family members have specific opinion about it doesn't mean your customers would also feel the same way. Maybe the majority of people prefer the old design and your sells get worse because of that.

    • @dontcare563
      @dontcare563 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The speaker he's showing is the redesigned speaker, not the speaker they had that they didn't like the looks!

  • @classicrecordings
    @classicrecordings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    No big deal for me; I could never afford them anyway.

    • @ryanray6215
      @ryanray6215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even I could afford them and even they sound the best in the world . I don't even want to look at them , never mind having those in my house .

    • @ryanray6215
      @ryanray6215 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fat Rat I like both : listening and looking at them :-) . I think my Blades 2 sounds nice :-)

    • @FullFledged2010
      @FullFledged2010 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I probably can't even afford those speaker cables ^^

    • @SinnerSince1962
      @SinnerSince1962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tell myself (since I could never afford PS Audio anything), that they could never sound as good as my Dynaco A25's. That's what I tell myself.....

  • @Nerdrific
    @Nerdrific 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Personally I think those speakers look awesome!

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're fine. Speakers are speakers, not visual works of art...unless you needlessly stress trying to make them one.
      Speakers can be anything from acceptable to beautiful. Just avoid being an eye soar and you're golden.

  • @chadbarker2316
    @chadbarker2316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I started watching you when I looked on TH-cam to build a listening room for my wife 2years sho when she started chemotherapy and I've lived you every day since then. I'm just an old construction worker and ain't rich but one love to own some PS audio gear one day. Please make some good speakers for people that love,love,audio but are on a tight budget. Got my room done from your videos and my wife spends a lot of her time there. She says hello Paul . I know it's a business but please make some gear for the blue collar peeps like shitt and Andrew Jones . Love your videos and watch everyday.

    • @russmaleartist
      @russmaleartist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a difference between financial necessity and financial greed. Yes, a company must make a profit to keep afloat; however, apart from the original cost of research and the cost of production with all the parts . . . there is that human quotient that basically decides if they should make a strong killing at the beginning while their speakers are hot and in demand . . . or if they should make a smaller profit margin with the hope that their quality will speak for itself and their reputation will continue to bring in the required revenue.
      It is just a fact of life that if you cannot afford the top of the line, which never stays on top by reason of always new “breakthroughs”, which keep the industry going . . . you are going to have to accept their OK line, which many would love to have . . . but everyone wants the best.
      Alternative . . . study, investigate, experiment, and come up with your own speakers that satisfy what your ears require . . . shut out the rest of the propaganda, having the latest and the greatest that strategically will never happen. Think of it this way, the pharmaceutical industry would be wiped-out if actual cures were revealed for deadly diseases. Doctors and pharmaceutical industries do not make their money off of WELL people. Do the math coupled with greedy human nature . . . puting things into a realistic and common sense perspective will also put the audio industry into perspective also. And that is the name of this game!

    • @eddiehowey2476
      @eddiehowey2476 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You have answered your own question. Schiit and Andrew Jones.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@russmaleartist The pharmaceutical industry is in the long term maintenance business. They want you alive as long as possible and still be able to work long enough to make it to medicare. Symptom repression, not cure, is the gig. So much so that addressing the underlying conditions doesn't have to be an approach.
      Working people produce economic activity and money. So that's their focus. It's also the reason pain killers were pushed like candy. People not in pain can work, even while they have underlying conditions or injuries which are never addressed.
      Many many years ago, I used to work in the cold. There was a coworker who had back problems and got addicted to taking large amounts of opioids and pain medication. The temperature was -5°F with a wind chill around -15F. He was wearing a t shirt and no hat or gloves. Everybody else was shocked and concerned for him. After 30 minutes of being questioned and scolded by some, he realized just how cold it was, so he went and got his usual sweatshirt, hat, and gloves.
      For such weather, everybody else was always layered up and had a thick winter coat on. But he typically just wore a sweatshirt over his t shirt. We figured he ran hot and was part eskimo. But on this day (one of the coldest) he wore a t shirt and felt fine. He couldn't feel the cold at all he was so numb, talk about dangerous.
      Many months later, he revealed he was on massive amounts of pain killers. He was lucky he manged to get off the pain killers, and also that he didn't die from overexposure to the cold.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're going to come out with 3 speakers below this AN3 model.
      But PS Audio products will never be affordable to most or even a great value in conventional terms.
      That's not how the company is setup and I actually appreciate their model because instead of modeling everything using conventional wisdom and then mass producing like Sony or Denon, PS Audio can experiment more and let their ears and emotions inform their designs. They also run standard tests using microphones, osciliscopes, and electrical meters, but the results are not the end all and be all to their design choices.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@russmaleartist Actually, I don't want "the best" even if I could afford it, because to achieve "the best" is so wasteful imo. Especially in audio or cars. The "best" and "perfection" can take a hike to hell, lol.
      Take Wilson Speakers or Magico for instance. The design parameters and attention to detail are insane. I think time would be better spent by humanity focusing on education, disease prevention and healthcare. Imagine if you could live 10 years longer because you decided to fund or invest $200,000 in education and cancer research which ended up saving your own life.
      So, purchasing a pair of $20k speakers over the $220k speakers turned out to be a very wise choice. A 0.001% improvement in audio quality pales in comparison to saving a child's life or extending your own life by 10 years.
      I like expensive brands but loathe uber expensive brands. Expensive stuff still has value. While "uber expensive" companies just throw gobs of time, money, and resources at a project an then declare it the best ever. For the privilege of owning, you'll have to part with your sanity and a small fortune.
      Anytime a product exceeds 20 times the cost of the median price within that product category, you've probably entered pointless bull crap levels. Especially if this object is 50% or more than the yearly median salary in 1st world nations.

  • @kenkopf3051
    @kenkopf3051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Well maybe I am old school, but I want speakers like you have there, not furniture

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But all speakers are furniture...

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Oystein87 No, they are not furniture!
      I have never sat or slept on a pair of speakers, nor have I stored household objects in them.
      "Speakers are furniture" - mantra of the gullable

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thunderpooch Yes, they ARE furniture!
      Uhm... I think you need to read up on what the definition of furniture is.. ;)
      "the movable articles that are used to make a room or building suitable for living or working in" By definition a speaker is a furniture that makes sound.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Oystein87 well then, knock yourself out! Head to your local furniture store and pick yourself up some speakers. I mean, "noise emitting furniture."

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thunderpooch So you actually get cranky just because you are wrong and don't understand the definition of the word furniture?? That makes absolutely no sense...
      And funny you mention that.. I can actually go to a Ikea furniture store and buy some speakers. Not great speakers (also depends on the use) but they do sell them. They even work with those shitty Sonos systems "everyone" buys these days.

  • @jamesplotkin4674
    @jamesplotkin4674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If I had the coin, I'd definitely choose these AN3's in this video.

  • @doowopper1951
    @doowopper1951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those look a heck of a lot better than any TV, aor piece of equipment I have ever seen in any living room / family room.

  • @RadoDani
    @RadoDani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like techie looking speakers. Screws, exposed metal parts, automotive finish, bright colors ...

    • @endrizo
      @endrizo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah..too delicate fine and exquicite is gay.

  • @MemeScreen
    @MemeScreen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well if you don’t want them I’ll buy that speaker from you. It looks amazing. I think everyone would at least appreciate a small run of them.

  • @SinnerSince1962
    @SinnerSince1962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is nothing unusual about the looks of those speakers. I have found that once they are heard, you can oblige a little bit on "not liking the looks". But like you, Paul, I think they are beautiful! How could one NOT like that beautiful deep polished wood? They are very elegant and would be the showcase of beauty in my home. Give us a break!

  • @stevefick3919
    @stevefick3919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the way they look, Paul. I think they would look great in my living room! Sounds like the new versions will be even nicer! As long as they SOUND as good as they look, that's what's important.

  • @sickjohnson
    @sickjohnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found this video now Paul...OMG sorry to hear that went down...they look damn good to me?
    Wonder what they are comparing them to, and even more importantly how do the ones they think look better sound in comparison?
    When you are in the $15,000.00 to $20,000.00 range how critical are the looks, because they will have their own room specifically set up for them?

  • @Projacked1
    @Projacked1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm thrilled no matter what Paul...I'm already wishing for the smallest version. The big ones will have to wait haha

  • @andrejoao
    @andrejoao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi Paul!
    What about some bookshelves? Is there a prototype already? When can we expect it in the market?

    • @chielwouterscw
      @chielwouterscw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      João André I think he has also shown us some "Sprout" bookshelf speakers some months ago.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Due out in mid 2020, aka early 2026.

  • @squibcakes74
    @squibcakes74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those An3-2 look amazing already!

  • @juliaset751
    @juliaset751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nelson Pass did a magazine interview years ago about the subject of how audio equipment looks. He said that personally he doesn’t care how they look, and he could sell Pass products that sound the same but aren’t as pretty for much less. People wouldn’t buy them.

  • @claudec2588
    @claudec2588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think these speakers look great. I don't know what you mean by 'more furniturey". Curious to learn what this phrase means when you decide on your final design.

  • @stevenjackson8226
    @stevenjackson8226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. I've spoken with a number of audio company owners/CEOs. At all ends of the market, but especially at the very high end of the market CEOS tole me that purchases are luxury purchases. The product has to have a distinctive and distinctly "lux" feel. Products have to perform well, but purchase decisions are often about things other than performance. And very high end gear can ooze of quality and cosmetic appeal. I get all this and appreciate why companies also have to create an aesthetic ethos to compete. User experience at all levels is important, and different people have different preference weightings. Been there in my own professional life.
    I have a radar for interesting technical and cosmetic design. I tend to fall firmly in the function before form camp, and while I appreciate and enjoy aesthetics, I don't prefer to pay for cosmetics. It shows up even in DIY audio, where just a decent, simple case can cost many times what all the other components do. It's like where the bottle the perfume comes in costs more than the perfume.
    The speaker Paul is standing next to is gorgeous, and I'm sure a lot of consideration went into its cosmetic design and finish quality. I suspect that a cosmetic retune will cost more time, but not necessarily more cost otherwise.

  • @tracyanderson6217
    @tracyanderson6217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been a furniture and cabnet maker and audiophile for 30+ years.and I have always looked at speakers as art. Sound and style as one. Not furniture,trust me if it sounds great they'll think it looks great.

  • @claudec2588
    @claudec2588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well I think those speakers look great. I'm very curious to see what you have come up with that is more "furniture". And 2020 is almost over so where are they?

  • @Nerfcar1
    @Nerfcar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here in 2021 and I don't see any sites that offer these for sale.

  • @rainman3269
    @rainman3269 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you manufacturing the speaker's and enclosures in house or just designing in-house then outsourcing . What drivers are you using ? Kind regards Paul

  • @carlosoliveira-rc2xt
    @carlosoliveira-rc2xt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish PS Audio much success with the speakers. Can't wait to see what prototype 3 looks like.

  • @LevonArakelian
    @LevonArakelian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree that a speaker of that caliber in terms of sound deserves the best aesthetics, especially if you'd like to compete with speakers like Sonus Faber, B&W, etc. in the looks department. I'm sure there are a lot of audiophiles who don't give a lot of importance to looks, but many do, especially those who can actually afford them ))

  • @NickP333
    @NickP333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Paul, I’m sure you’ve heard this many times, but I still want to say how sorry I am for the loss of your friend, Arnie. I’m sure he’s still there with you, and is extremely proud of what you’ve done with his speakers. FWIW, I really dig they way they look now and think they’re just fine, and I’m sure I’m not alone. I am however very curious to see what the end product will look like.
    That system your standing next to is a total dream, btw. Everything from the VPI deck to the AN3’s, I’m sure sound absolutely phenomenal!
    Thanks for another great vid, Paul. 🎶🔊🙂👍

  • @Merlin-wo1kj
    @Merlin-wo1kj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My question would be why would I buy a first generation speaker for $10,000 from PS Audio over a refined $10,000 speaker from someone like Focal, ATC, PSB, Spendor, ELAC, Dynaudio,Canton etc?

  • @robjk
    @robjk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh what a tease! I hope your video tomorrow shows the new design.

  • @isaacsykes3
    @isaacsykes3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My question is while everyone else is waiting, how can I buy those.

  • @temp7774
    @temp7774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are absolutely beautiful speakers that would look good in any room!!! Unfortunately I may not say the same for the rest of PS Audio components (beside those big monoblocks in black colour).

    • @friedmule5403
      @friedmule5403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Temp77 thanks, you have just put word on something I could not express before now.
      The speakers is, as they look now, like Sonus Faber, a real speaker with that looks like they play. While the electronic range, remind me of sterile units you would place in a sci-fi movie about medicine in the 21th century.
      Imagine the whole system in wooden finish as the speakers!! :-)

    • @temp7774
      @temp7774 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@friedmule5403 "Imagine the whole system in wooden finish as the speakers!! " - no I do not want to imagine that! :))) That would be pretty much my personal "the end-game" on a Hi-End audio setup. I had a chance to check the lower-end Stellar preamp & those class D mono blocks. They are very, very good and I can just imagine how BHK line sounds but the look.....well, I will keep it to myself due to a respect to Paul and his channel.

    • @friedmule5403
      @friedmule5403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@temp7774 I respect your "keeping silent due to respect for Paul" I chose to say something for the same reason. I think Paul is super interested in what his target audience is thinking, I think Paul is the kind of guy who rather like to debate these things over a cup of coffee then people keeping there thought to them self.
      His soule, the musics soule and heck, the whole PS Audios soule is in every component, but unfortunately, trapped in a soulless box.

  • @knut5328
    @knut5328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    when in 2020?
    i really want to know how they sound

  • @sunnohh
    @sunnohh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the new ones in person last week..... Can't wait to get a pair! Even if it is 2023

  • @rickc661
    @rickc661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so, the smallish ( maybe 15 in tall ) example that was shown what 3 or 4 months ago here...

  • @scubalbany
    @scubalbany 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish I had a boss like Paul.

    • @networkingdude
      @networkingdude 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have children, teach respect and good financial decisions, boom instant success.

  • @markgrunzweig6377
    @markgrunzweig6377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Grow old along with Paul, the best is yet to be called."

  • @mikaelmllersnnichsen539
    @mikaelmllersnnichsen539 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How could, or rather should I disagree with you on this, Mr. McGowan? What you say is what you say, and that's that. Looking at the current AN3's, however, and taking into what you're saying it seems to me their pictured iteration differ in regards to the driver configuration on the front panel most of all, that makes this predominantly about tweaking their sonic outcome rather than what entails their design aesthetics. You said "people loved them" (i.e.: the prototypes), but I also remember some people not being too excited about them in finding them a bit too warm and "wholesome" sounding. Then hiring the new speaker designer, Chris Brunhaver, way into the process (?) seems to confirm, to me, that a re-design, sonically, may have been intended, and not the overall looks of the speakers (that shouldn't affect the sound you initially set out to create). Is it a precarious matter admitting that, perhaps, the general reception of the prototypes may have been lukewarm, and that you set out to address this?

    • @Paulmcgowanpsaudio
      @Paulmcgowanpsaudio  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely an aesthetic makeover and yes, we also took that opportunity to make design tweaks. In order to keep the cabinet slim we moved from the front mounted 6.5" midbass couplers to 2 8" woofers, one on each side of the upper cabinet. We also replace the single 12" woofer with dual 10" subs, one on each side of the lower bass cabinet. The midrange/tweeter coaxial arrangement is the same as is the rear tweeter.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Woah, that's a major change placing all the woofers and subwoofers on each side!
      That sure seems like an entie sound redesign, and not just an aesthetic consideration.

    • @Paulmcgowanpsaudio
      @Paulmcgowanpsaudio  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thunderpooch I suppose, it's definitely different in those respects.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Won't placing drivers on the side undo many aspects of your previous voicing efforts and crossover design??
      Baffle step compensation and off axis response will all be back to the drawing board. I'll realize it's not a huge task to redo, but it can be very hard to reach a consensus among a design team so you're all generally proud of the final result. That takes gobs of time unless you say, "so and so is the lead, and what he says goes." But usually that's a poor approach when you're first timers and not an individual like Harbeth or Wilson.

  • @leonarddaneman810
    @leonarddaneman810 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Design by Committee? Or, Form Follows Function. Hope the new design is as nice as the ones in this video! (Maybe they wanted a flat top to put a vase or drink on?)

  • @lights80088
    @lights80088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally Paul, I think their beautiful as they are. They won't work for me, because your woofers will not have grills on them as I've been told. We have a cat and no, the wife will not allow me to dump the cat. He would scratch on those subs in a moments time. But I a confident, they will be a killer in the market. Did I mention how beautiful they are?

  • @carcaviar9321
    @carcaviar9321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm very curious about the new design. These don't look wrong in my opinion, but there's always room for a change 😊

  • @victorfeliciano6094
    @victorfeliciano6094 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    please dont die before the new speakers come out ok, love your video.

  • @andrewfurst5711
    @andrewfurst5711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe drop the woodgrain "furniture" siding and go with high gloss solid color choices such as Ferrari Red, Cobalt Blue, Mustard Yellow, Forest Green, White, or Black. I think solid colors would go better with the exposed black drivers than woodgrain, especially that big round side porthole.
    As an additional idea, use the same solid color choices as mentioned, but extend the color to the lower front panel (which is currently black), and extend the lower portion black to the side where the big round porthole driver opening is located. In other words, the front panel has a distinct horizontal line about 60% down from the top of the speaker. Below that line, where there is no driver, make it the same color as the rest of the speaker. But also extend that same line (i.e. the one that is about 60% down from the top) to the side with the big round driver, and make it black below that line, color above the line. That way the big round side driver won't stand out so much visually.
    Yet another way would be to make all surfaces other than the drivers themselves, a single solid high gloss color. This might make them look a bit too much like the Meridian DSP speakers, but who cares.

  • @sundaru1
    @sundaru1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't mind to take the current model Paul , the visual consideration comes second as this is audio equipment .....if only I can afford it.......

  • @milkman100001
    @milkman100001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi paul. i did comment a few month ago saying that the prototypes did look old fashioned.it appears that your family agreed.in my opinion speakers have to look modern and hold a nice shape from any angle.i look forward to seeing the new ones.

  • @megahurt
    @megahurt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As for the forgotten Sprout Speakers? Will there be a sub $1,000 (or so) speaker pair anytime soon enough to be worth mentioning?

  • @ajafterparty
    @ajafterparty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo000000000000oooooo00000000000!!!! Don’t change them! Those look terrific! They’re a perfect blend of tech and furniture.

  • @mverbaan3381
    @mverbaan3381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is called the 'WAF' : Womens Acceptance Factor.
    Very sensible you listen to your wife and sons; speakers ARE (mostly) dominating the room, so they should better look good. Unfortunately 'looking good' is a question of taste, so opinions divide.
    Another problem is to find the right balance between sound quality, size, looks and cost. So good luck with that Paul!
    Sometimes being single has advantages. My system dominates the room and no one complains about that. :)

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not sensible. It's proof a weak or nerdy guy has no balls and his "wife", who is really a second mother to him, controls his pathetic existence.
      Prenup = good person assurance. A woman who avoids signing one is revealing she wants to remain a child who can one day control you as she slips into absolute infantilism with all her demands. A piece of garbage won't sign one because she sees it as a path to heap more demands on you. If you don't give in she'll threaten divorce knowing she has a good chance of winding up with money and assets she didn't earn.
      "WAF" is bullshit. It's for loser men and loser women.
      True audiophiles NEVER experience such stupidity. "WAF" is for Bose and Sony people, lol.

    • @poserwanabe
      @poserwanabe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thunderpooch are you married ??

    • @Ineedtotakeabreak
      @Ineedtotakeabreak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      poserwannabe Divorced more likely 😏

    • @poserwanabe
      @poserwanabe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ineedtotakeabreak yep, I'm guessing single or divorced more than once..
      or just a keyboard tough guy...

    • @poserwanabe
      @poserwanabe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fat Rat I'm in same situation as you, I'm wondering about this other guy ?? You know, the REAL TOUGH GUY 😆😂

  • @andrewfurst5711
    @andrewfurst5711 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A month and a half to go, if these will be released in 2020. I think the looks are fine but I'm guessing that the wife and sons didn't like the look of the circular subwoofer opening on the side. Side cut-outs are always hard to make attractive; an example might be the Legacy Aeris, which in some ways looks similar to the proposed PS Speaker but has triangular openings on the sides. The Aeris look is polarizing I think; hopefully Paul and his team have found a beautiful look to go with beautiful sound.

  • @bujoun76
    @bujoun76 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love 4 of them. I'm a movie guy. I'd love to clear out any prototypes you want to get rid of...

  • @sidvicious3129
    @sidvicious3129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Paul, will you be at Axpona 2020 with the new Speakers?

  • @SamuelBarrPhotography
    @SamuelBarrPhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, I liked this version.

  • @johnnixon2504
    @johnnixon2504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m happy that the development is taking a fair amount of time. This allows me to save my pennies so when I finally hear them.... I can afford them! 😁

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now they'll be more expensive due to aesthetic second guessing.
      I'm pissed off with this "update."
      Paul, they look fine!!! The first generation and early adopters are all about the sound!!! Start selling them, then use those profits to make the second generation look a little better, if it's bugging you.
      No Paul, we don't care about them being an artistic "piece of furniture." True audiophiles buy speakers for the sound, and the wife always "accepts" them because they have no damn say or choice whatsoever in the matter. Nor should they, if they respected you.
      Good wife: "Honey, you love audio, so buy what invokes passion and enjoyment. I can live with something that falls short of a Botticelli in appearance. If you're happy, im happy. I only ask that they're not bigger than what we discussed."
      Bad wife (almost a second mother you happen to sleep with): "You are not putting anything ugly in my house! And by "ugly," I mean whatever I decide. And by "my house" I mean the one you paid 75%+ of the mortgage."
      Paul, the second situation is not your target audience. That's for Bose, Sony and JVC consumers.

  • @EddyTeetree
    @EddyTeetree 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you consider a down firing radiator so as not to have those cutouts in the beautiful veneer sides?

  • @philipdeg1594
    @philipdeg1594 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am totally schooled by you and enjoying it.I have a question.Can I swap a pair of 3 ohms speakers to replace 4 ohms speakers.Would there be a down side or a benefit? Thanks.........

  • @akrocuba
    @akrocuba 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, if you don’t like those beautiful speakers. I will certainly take them off your hands in heartbeat 💓
    ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!!!!👍👍👍👍😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏

  • @usandthemx
    @usandthemx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those shoes remind me of a Seinfeld episode highlighted by Kramer. LOL

  • @byronb.
    @byronb. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. Surprised everyone didn't like this design. They look great. Just need a black option and you should hide the side port. I hope the new design does not drive the price up even higher.

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Side port? What port? You mean the active subwoofer. It's easy for them to make a cover. But these are prototypes so why bother

  • @jonpatrick66
    @jonpatrick66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul, you're making the right decision. When your wife says,"That looks nice." Well, that's a good thing.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When it doesn't matter whether or not she approves, then you know you've selected the right wife.
      Fixed it for ya.

  • @theone69ize
    @theone69ize 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can put out an affordable reference line . Amagine that, an affordable reference line could make alot of people worry.
    Similar in design like INFINITY RS 1B SPEAKERS. Improve on the crossover ( you have your crossover guru) stellar speaker picture that on the cover of all the magazines.

  • @Scottlp2
    @Scottlp2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for taking the time to do it right. PS Audio is now direct to costumer, but buying what will be a 5 or 10K speaker without hearing them is not optimal. Will there be any way to audition them before buying?

  • @RJ_Chicago
    @RJ_Chicago 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul, will you be debuting the new/final version of the speakers at AXPONA?

    • @Paulmcgowanpsaudio
      @Paulmcgowanpsaudio  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. We have them in house now and are working on getting them ready. They are truly gorgeous looking. As always, not everyone is going to like their look (I don't know of any product where the acceptance is universal), but so far we're running about an 80% of oohs and aahs when visitors have a look.

    • @RJ_Chicago
      @RJ_Chicago 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good. Looking forward to seeing them and hearing them (albeit in a busy and noisy space) then. Thanks.

  • @colanitower
    @colanitower 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The design of the 'feet' of these speakers matches the front design of PS Audio equipment. A nice touch. Please don't drop this good idea.

  • @Pete.across.the.street
    @Pete.across.the.street 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't see these on your site yet, where do I get them?

  • @SuperMcgenius
    @SuperMcgenius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, make it beautiful.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ugh, this is horrible business strategy by PS audio. Like, the freaking worst!
      The sound is what matters, especially for early adopters! No one buying the first generation of AN3's gives a rat's ass about whether or not they're "an artistic piece of furniture." Paul, wtf? There's going to be yet another price increase, now due to aesthetics??? Get a grip, Paul and PS Audio!
      They look fine! Start selling them. Then use that money to make the second generation more visually appealing for squeamish decor punks who are controlled by their wife's "acceptance factor."
      I'm losing confidence in their sound quality as time wastes away. It appears they want to visually wow us and shock our pocket books because the sound isn't up to the task.
      I'm pretty pissed off with this so called "update" ....verging on livid.

  • @joybrucebruce3377
    @joybrucebruce3377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would assume the reason why so many BHK amps are for sale on Ebay is dealers unloading their inventory and to compete with the Schiitts of this world is part of the "the innovators dilemma" and just representative of the latest in markets reassembling themselves. Looking forward to your new products.

    • @bc527c
      @bc527c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just curious, R U drunk? There are no used BHK amps and one, probably rouge, dealer has a listing. Quite the definition of 'so many'.

    • @joybrucebruce3377
      @joybrucebruce3377 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just put in bhk as a search term. More than 1

    • @bc527c
      @bc527c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joybrucebruce3377 Right, you counting the dealer from greenbay with 2 ads as 2 entries? I did not.

  • @googoo-gjoob
    @googoo-gjoob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    personally.... i *love* those speakers

  • @keywestjimmy
    @keywestjimmy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WIRELESS--15HZ to 200HZ, Furniture-grade, powered subwoofers, maybe that's the design that's taking so long! One can dream, right?
    Bass-killing, LF room modes are best addressed by placement different from the imaging source. It'd be a shame to incorporate high-quality LF in 2 towers. (Um, ALL speaker makers have attempted it.) LF will be compromised in most rooms permanently! Don't do it Paul, please.

  • @MrDac0964
    @MrDac0964 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I won't be able to afford those speakers, nevertheless I would like to chime in. First, my question is, didn't your family/board saw the design whether on paper or CAD (don't know what you're using) before construction? Did they sign off on the design or didn't? Two, and this is just my opinion, those speakers look alright for a large floor standing speaker. Wilson's speakers are ugly in my opinion cause they look like industrial machinery or robots but they sell well cause they sound great. Three, if your family want a furnitury-like speakers you can easily do this with a bookshelve monitor. Cause they're smaller therefore fits easier in a living room.

  • @twentycal514
    @twentycal514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Paul...I gotta go with the rest of your families opinion. I'll give ya a couple hundred bucks and haul those tacky ones outta there for ya no problem! Just tryin to help!

  • @Landoverse
    @Landoverse 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whaaat? The original design was a little brutish but these are beautiful. When I think of what B&W did to make their Foundation powered speaker series “living room-friendly furniture”...Yuck! Would never, ever buy those. Please don’t make the same mistake, Paul.

  • @davidhardaker192
    @davidhardaker192 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Paul 'these are the best loud speakers we have ever heard' now that's modesty for you. Time will tell

  • @einsteindrieu
    @einsteindrieu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got to see them Paul !

  • @markholder6851
    @markholder6851 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to work for a company like yours Paul!!!

  • @Acoustic_Theory
    @Acoustic_Theory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You will spend tons of development cash and heartache trying to end up with a design that will match modern furniture, and you'll fight manufacturability issues the whole way. Put out the speakers the way you like them, and people will just have to take their criticisms and shove them.

  • @galenzellars6971
    @galenzellars6971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting. Are there any other audio companies that include WAF as an design parameter? 🎼

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alot. That's why we have all those smaller speakers designed to good or to even be hidden away like i.e Sonos (I think Sonos looks like crap but you get the point) and simular stuff. But that can often lead to design over sound quality :(
      So if PS Audio get borth (I think they already nailed the design and know alot of women that would agree) gets both right then they have a winner.

  • @matthiasmeyer1124
    @matthiasmeyer1124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would imagine a PSAudio loudspeaker looking similar to a BHK component. Either powder coated or veneered. Black top cover. Use similar bevels, linings and roundovers. If you keep using this driver combination operation with a grille is amust IMHO. Make the speaker narrow a bit to the back. That would give it a modern look opposed the more baroque one currently in use.

  • @r423sdex
    @r423sdex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the market need another speaker manufacturer ?.

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ehh, why not? They go in, another is pushed out. Such is speaker building life.
      If they're not successful, they'll be the ones taking an exit.

  • @lukao6114
    @lukao6114 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of agree with Terry

  • @jintandchris
    @jintandchris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Paul, does the impedance of active subwoofer matter when the sub is connected at speaker level? Thanks

  • @ThinkingBetter
    @ThinkingBetter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video makes me excited. Great speakers take great passion for every detail and it’s rare to find a speaker that doesn’t have a sign of somewhere care was seriously lacking. Making it right even it takes a bit extra time is the recipe of success in consumer electronics.

  • @luismanuelcardoso9889
    @luismanuelcardoso9889 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Í really don't care about the looks, please sell me the ugliest as long as they sound amazing. From a music lover.

    • @endrizo
      @endrizo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah...thats fine for us but most people dont think like that

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well.. Kinda agree.. Only thing is that if I had ugly speakers but great sound then the design would take my attention away from enjoying the sound 100%.
      So both nice design and good sound is always the best way to go.

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fat Rat No, that is just when I listening for small details. I don't sit for hours with my eyes closed.. :P
      And I actually live in my home and do have to look at the speakers every day so I don't want ugly speakers no matter what. But most good sounding speakers also look good anyway so it's no issue.
      Haha! True.. But you forgot a few factors in your comment ;P Most people don't have a dedicated listening room they can hide away ugly shit in ;P And I would picked something with a good design even if I did have a dedicated room. It's just better when design and sound comes together. But I don't like weird designs that looks like something from a sci-fi movie. Haha

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fat Rat Yes, that is an example of what I mean with "sci-fi" ;P But far from the worst I have seen

  • @HowDareYouu
    @HowDareYouu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    good decision, the ''old ones'' are not designish enough

  • @jamiemcneil9462
    @jamiemcneil9462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Furniture? Are you going to design a sofa or a bedroom set next? Uncompromised design always allows form to follow function...

  • @birgerolofsson2347
    @birgerolofsson2347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long is relative. My Elac FS507 was on their 8th year before they just got a successor this year.

    • @bilguana11
      @bilguana11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those Concentro S507s aren't in the USA yet, nor are the prices. I hope soon.

    • @birgerolofsson2347
      @birgerolofsson2347 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bilguana11 Yes, I'm not sure they're finished yet but they're at least on the way.

  • @1999zrx1100
    @1999zrx1100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sure they’ll be flying off the shelves. Can’t wait ! 😎

  • @henrikl1394
    @henrikl1394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look at Sonus Faber...There You have WAF. But Your side firing woofer makes it hard...I know that my wife would not like that, and I can somehow agree with here. A woofer on the side looks little missed placed. But I could live with it if the sound is great. Think You get more WAF-points if You could place it on the back.

  • @janmoleburg2764
    @janmoleburg2764 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lets hope they sound better than they look,

  • @robh9079
    @robh9079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here's a thought; Bring out a same-sounding but basic-looking man-cave version. There's no tempter to some than getting more 'sounds for pounds' (or should that be hollers for dollars?)

  • @V00ify
    @V00ify 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    they gonna be at axpona? or at least pics?

  • @DriverDude100
    @DriverDude100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exciting stuff.

  • @ryanray6215
    @ryanray6215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Paul , your family is pretty smart . They are 100 % right , those speakers looks horrible . Also , all electronics are supposed to be beautiful furniture , not just speakers . I love looking ,even without playing at my Technics turntable , my Yamaha A-S3000 integrated , KEF Blades 2 . I look away and walk away from eyesores electronics , like for example humangous power plants , mono blocks ,plasticky looking power amps that are way bigger than my microwave in my kitchen .

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing wrong with the nice design of the speakers. Horrible!? You need glasses :P
      All speakers are furniture regardless of you liking the design or not.

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, how about giving us a peek at the Gen. 3's ??

  • @makito218
    @makito218 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to hear those speakers.. Saving up my money to get them. Is the sprout a good amplifier to power those speakers?

  • @stephensmith3111
    @stephensmith3111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Furniture? How about a pair of Altec Lansing Flamencos. Maybe in mahogany.

  • @bc527c
    @bc527c 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with the family (sorry), never liked the look of #s 1 and 2. I'll toss in the unmentioned reason- designing great speakers is actually really difficult to do right.

  • @dtsdigitalden5023
    @dtsdigitalden5023 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul, you can't hurry the curry. Ain't no short cuts. :)

  • @sam-ms4hl
    @sam-ms4hl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love it. furniture yes that is the best way to say it. the wife thinks so to!

  • @SinnerSince1962
    @SinnerSince1962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very confusing video. I thought that PS audio was about sound and quality alone. Now I am hearing from Paul that they just want to compete with Bassett.

  • @djsouthpaw3811
    @djsouthpaw3811 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gladly take those "ugly" speakers off your hands Paul.

  • @SirVicc
    @SirVicc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the looks of the first two prototypes. Don't care about them being furnature.

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But a speaker is a furnature no matter what the design is...

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fat Rat Disagree all you want. That does not change fact that a speaker is by definition a furniture. A sound producing furniture to be more exact.
      Really? Just take a trip to Ikea... They sell their own line of speakers that work with Sonos etc. Not great (good for the price) but they do sell speakers..
      And hifi shops sell furniture to put your electronics in..

    • @Oystein87
      @Oystein87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fat Rat Haha ;) That's not the way it works and you know it :P