The problem with the WORLD'S CHEAPEST bullet train!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- Bullet style high-speed trains are often expensive, but they don't have to be. I've found the cheapest high-speed train in the world, and it's the TCDD Yüksek Hızlı Tren (YHT) service in Turkey, travelling in Ekonomi Class!
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Journey Details:
Origin: Eskişehir
Destination: Ankara YHT
Company: TCDD Taşımacılık (Turkish State Railway Transport)
Train: TCDD HT65000 'CAF Sepia'
Accommodation: Ekonomi Class Seat (2nd)
Distance: 245 kilometres / 152 miles
Price: ₺45 (£2.40 / €2.90 / $3.30)
Time: 1h29m, 15 minutes late
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What's the CHEAPEST high-speed train journey you've had? 👇💬
10€ on occasion with the ICE in Germany
Şuan da binerseniz 4.4€ ödersiniz😅
DB ICE for free with a FIP coupon :)
I paid €19 for the Frecciarossa from Rome to Milan a few years ago which for the distance is a right bargain.
@@gabrielstevens3884 that's really good!
As a student in Ankara I can say you're absolutely right about the luggage problem. But besides TCDD's fault, passengers also guilty about it. They think 'We can leave luggage there so we can easily take it while unboarding. Still it's the best way to travel as a student because of the travel time and of course the ticket price.
not only the thing you mentioned also they think they can carry everything especially old people
@@polnyjj they are announcing pickles are not allowed as a luggage in train :D
Olm türkçe konuşsanıza
@@uldurulenuniversiteogrenci6125 gardaş maksat küresel çapta duyurmak zaten neden Türkçe konuşalım?
@@saidberk6599 Hayır onu demiyorum kendi aranızda altta konuşurken ingilizce konuşuyonuz, bizim çoğu türko anlamaz bunu
£2.40 to go for a 152 mile trip on a HST, that's definitely excellent value, even if there are "downsides"!
I live in istanbul and I am a 15 yrs old high schooler. with every holiday in school, I go near my big brother in ankara by this HST.
if the train starts by 9 am(in pendik), lets say im there in 8:50 am.
my parents drop me by car, but minibus service is 0,5 euro or smth. you can go by taxi for 5 euros I guess, try not to get scammed by drivers, as many will try. don't talk serious to them, if they ask you what do you do, you can say im an aerospace engineer in Goethe-institut (they will believe and if they don't, they won't beat you).
I go to the ID control section which lasts max. of 2 minutes. if there is -say- 20 minutes to your train and there is hell lotta of queue, just ask them which train they are waiting for. the railways are very busy and they are prolly waiting for another train.
next, I go upstairs to wait for my train. when train comes, just wait for a minute or so. if you can't find your carriage, just get inside a door. all of the carriages are connected. unless the train goes by without you, you WILL found your nice cozy seat. if there are people sitting in the seat where you are supposed to sit, double-check and say to them that that seat is yours, you bought it. there are being cases like that.
if 12a-b or 1a-b are not selected by anyone, buy them instead of them all. there are like + >5cm of foot space in them.
if you go with business class, they will give you some water and muffin. enjoy
you go from pendik(istanbul) to ankara gar? 248 TL (12) euro has to be paid (10e with youth discount)
i have been in this train for 4-6 times, there are no luggage scenarios like this one, I haven't seen any.
this train goes 250kmh for 10 minutes or so.
if i am going to sleep, I prefer to bring a jacket and inflatable pillow with me.
I think this is it, I don't mind any "problems" mentioned in this video, i don't think it is claustrophobic as it may seem from the
@@chemistyr
That was a pretty detailed reply! 👍
Converting Turkish prices directly to western currencies is a bit misleading though, as our wages are a lot lower in terms of euro as well.
@@lagg3sbd394 the purpose was to convert two currencies. I think it shows how poor we are as well
Next time, I will try 12a-b or 1a-b, and thx for your recommendation.
11:40 Fun fact: It is called Başkentray because Ankaray name was already taken by the city's light metro in 1996 (heavy metro is instead named Ankara Metrosu/Metro of Ankara) while Başkentray came about in 2018 after a 2-year complete rebuild of the old "Ankara banliyösü (Ankara suburban (rail))"
Also başkent means capital and ray means rail. Capitalrail . A pretty nice name imo
I really appreciated your struggle to pronounce all words correctly, which is rare among foreign videos about Türkiye. Your pronunciations were nearly perfect that I was really amazed haha. Great video.
I am a regular traveller with the YHT between İstanbul and Ankara and found your review much to the point, emphasising rightly some of the oddities of train travel in Turkey. The TCDD remains a weird company, out of touch with accepted practice in the outside world. That there is only one door per carriage is just one striking example. Furthermore they have enormous resources and a large number of employees but only manage to run a limited number of trains.
The answer is corruption.
@@kampfpanzerleopard346It is not
They run limited lines because Turkey has a tiny amount of railroad and only a single High Speed Line from İstanbul to Ankara and Karaman. TCDD is only the operator, they don’t decide or build the rail, speaking of which a lot of lines are beşng constructed including Ankara-Afyon-İzmir, Ankara-Sivas and Bilecik-Bursa and after this there are a dozen new lines planned. Ankara-İzmir will open by 2026 and Ankara-Sivas will probably also open in the next 1.5-2 years after much delay
@@fusionreactor7179 And what is causing these delays I might ask? If Tayyip builds something, it is becase he wants to enrich a friend of his not serve his people.
@@kampfpanzerleopard346 I will not bother explaining to a wall
Your pronouncation of "Eskişehir" was really good that I'm really impressed. Video is also really good and informational, appreciate it
12:15 you said it is 45TL for Eskişehir to Ankara but it is -60TL 75TL 90TL- 110TL now
For anyone wondering, the food situation in trains have improved about 2-3 months after this video. There is now a decent cafeteria with better snacks and filter coffee from starbucks
Ooh, that's good to hear!
i always buy my socks at the High Speed Railway Station
wtf
7:15 this memorial monument for the last point that Greek army to reached. After that point Turkish Army started to storm and pushed back invaders till Izmir. That's the real meaning behind it.
It is usually the economy class tickets that are sold out, as they are dirt cheap. In 2023 the price for the same route is 110 TL which is equivalent to €5.
I've used this type of train in Spain and even though its comfortable enough we were always running a few minutes late due to the fact there is just that 1 small door for getting on and off the train. I found storage to fine as the overhead racks were large enough for most bags. Still more space than you get on the majority of our trains in the UK. Especially when you end up on a 3x2 seating train where you just cant move down the train with bags.
The Amtrak Acela trains here in the USA also have airline-style overhead bins that close
On just a single line
They kind of look like Amtrak. Cheapest possible design.
As an answer to one of your questions: doors for overhead luggage comportments are rare, that's for sure, but I know they exist on Canadian trains. At the very least on the intercity trains operating on the Canadian "corridor". In the case of North America, it's typical of the train industry taking after airline practices. Air travel rules supreme in N.A.
Until very recently, Transport Canada required doors on overhead bins. They have never been required in the United States as far as I'm aware
Also available on the current Acela trains (the new ones will have the regular open overhead luggage racks).
The GranClass cars on the _Tohoku_ & _Hokuriku Shinkansen_ have doors for overhead luggage compartments too
Great trip and yeah great pronunciation every place you've passed. I think this price considered cheap for Euro and US Dollar user plus currency with higher values than both of them, but for local currency and other countries currency with lower value than Euro and US Dollar, it may be expensive.
This guy is a polyglot, wherever he goes he learns to pronounce names surprisingly well
I had the same reaction when he visited Spain
You are kinda right. It is not that much cheap for turkish people but still yht is cheaper than bus. So yeah it is still cheap
it is quite cheap for many of people but i remember, in 2018 i booked YHT ticket for like 6 or 7 TRY(Turkish lira) and in 2018, dollar 4 or 5 TRY. it become a bit expensive for us😊
Cheaper than many other means of transportation.
unfortunately it is not cheap for Turkish people who takes average wage. it is too hard to travel in Turkiye right now if you don't have a very well paid job.
It's called "Turkey" in English. "Türkiye" is a Turkish word, not an English one.
@Yagi u understood what they meant tho? So what the problem xd?
@@yagi3925 FYI : the government of Turkey recently announced that the preferred name is to be 'Republic of Türkiye' and 'Made in Türkiye' . In a similar way as that Peking now is Beijing and Bombay Mumbay ...
@@yagi3925 Turkish government changed their international identity just so you know.
@@eeceleste I know full well but 1. "International" doesn't automatically or exclusively mean "English", 2. As I pointed out, Turkish speakers (or speakers of any other language) have no authority to change anything in a foreign language. It's none of your business, so your gvt's decision is null and void. 3. As a consequence, your country is still called "Turkey" in English, whether you or AKP like it or not.
There are many reasons why it is so ridiculously cheap but primarily
1-Recent exchange rate collapse where Lira lost a lot of value so the price in Euro went down
2-A lot of things in Turkey are awfully subsidised to the detriment of efficiency
3-A lot of populist political pushback against raising prices according to Inflation so the prices in fact go down when they remain static.
3 Euros is 60liras which absolutely does not even remotely cover the costs of the ticket Probably covers barely a quarter of the actual cost. This is what happens when a country experiences rapid inflation while the incumbemt government has election anxiety and doesn’t raise prices
well said
As a routine commuter from Ankara to Eskişehir this video was pretty entertaining to watch. Also watched your other videos. Great job on capturing the high speed railways of Turkey! The luggage situation is a big annoyance but overall service is good for the price.
It's a shame they didn't reuse the old station building in Eskisehir as an entrance or exit, considering it's so close to the new station.
And it's actually have good design from outside standout from other structures around it
It is still being renovated
I am a local architect. They actually wanted to build a new station. It was gonna function also as a shopping center. The city is divided into two by the railway. The new station was gonna stand over the rails and connect two parts of the city. Waving roofs on top of the perons was part of the plan. For some reason, the rest is never built.
@@gokermalikaltuntas6355for some reason = no money/incentive left to build it
@@u9477 Maybe, even probably correct. I just don't have any input to confirm this, but any one is welcomed to speculate, for sure.
The baggage situation reminded me of a trip I took on Thalys back in 2010, returning from London to Warsaw because my flight to Trinidad had been cancalled due to the Icelandic volcano eruption.... I was on the Brusels to Aachen leg and the train was packed, even the steps at each door piled with baggage (I guess a lot of people were is the same position as me, desperately trying get home ). I was actually standing with one leg jammed between suitcases on the lowest step, the other leg a step higher, and leant against the door by the press of the crowd. We were doing the best part of 150kph, and I remember thinking that if we crashed I was without doubt going to die - the only time in my life I've ever been frightened travelling (whether by train, plane or anything else).
Yikes, sounds unpleasant...
Thalys video coming soon!
On the other hand HK enforces baggage size limits more strictly for HSR trains leaving the city, & expects you to arrange for your own courier service for oversized luggage
If high speed trains derail survival chance is slim anyway..
@@ggoddkkiller1342 it depends on which train .. the TGV has already derailed at 270 km / h and there were no deaths but 22 injured
The thing with the bags being everywhere isn’t a surprise. Turks aren’t exactly known for our attention to detail or efficient use of space.
great informative video!
CAF units are not the only kind. The first CAF trains entered service in 2009. Siemens Velaro D model is in use since 2014. These two train sets are actively work on existing train tracks.
The ✨Deutsche Bahn✨ would be so Jealous when seeing this value to money
schau mal nach England😉
9,65€ super sparpreis young 🫡
Well you can get from Munich to Hamburg (over 800km/500mi) for as little as €12.90 if you're under 27, which is a great price considering the better comfort/condition of the trains and the fact that the average income in Germany is much higher than in Turkey
@@paul_ko if you book like 20 years in advance, yeah
Well, the ICEs already can get crammed and introducing something like the 9€ Ticket to hsr would only make things worse.
Bro i am from eskişehir turket i love the video thanks for coming my hometown
3:36 Please do a review on AVE in Basico class on S102 and also do a review on the RENFE S121 like the one on screen. I love your videos and I'm subscribed to your channel.
Atleast you guys *have* high speed trains
😂😂😂
Do u live in the Amazon 😂
@@judefernandez827 No, but you're gettin' close
4:42 considering the line is not that old, it doesn't take a very direct route to Ankara. If you look at recent Shinkansen lines they take much more direct routes through the mountains (with large amounts of the line in tunnels).
I studied in Eskişehir and my then gf now fiancee was in Ankara, so i dont know how many times i took the train between 2017-2020. Even as a broke student it was super affordable for me. I was taking the first train at 6am and taking back the turning train at 19:30am. Missed the good old days
Nice, and congratulations! :)
I’m from Turkey and I learned a ton from your video 😄❤️
Yanlış öğrendin kardeşim. Baya yerin dibine sokmuş. O hızlı trene kaç kere bindim ve gayet keyifli. Ki bunları muhalif bir insan olarak yazıyorum. Yolun çoğunda 250 ile gidiyor ve o yolu 1,5 saatte alıyorsun. Avrupada da hızlı trene bindim, hem pahalı hem de tren istasyonlarının etrafı garip tiplerle dolu. Romada da, Pariste de, Marsilyada da durum bu. Tren kalitesinde de hiç bir fark yok. Restoranı ise gayet güzel normalde ama muhtemelen pandemiden dolayı öyle.. Radyosunu da 100 kere dinledim ve bozuk falan değildi. Bagaj desen 1 kere görmedim. Muhtemelen okulların kapanma sezonuna denk geldi yada tam trenden inişleri çekiyor.. Haksız bir değerlendirme bence. O hattaki tek sorun sinyalsiz açılmasıydı. Zaten ondan dolayı kaza oldu. Bunu belirtse sonuna kadar haklı, fakat trenler ve yolculuk kalitesi iyi bence.
The station with pay toilets and lots of shops in the common spaces reminded me of the old bus station on my city
Bidet and toilet paper are used together. 😀 First toilet paper, then water via bidet, then toilet paper again. 😉
Zamanla öğrenecekler. Elbet bir gün 😅
I've had the exact same messy baggage and even worse toilet situation in 2nd class on the Thalys, between Amsterdam-Schiphol and Paris.
White static noise instead of lovely Turkish music = Selling Point
At today's rate, an economy class ticket about $5.2 = 110 ₺
Ideally you should wait until everyone has dismounted before boarding a train
If people stop getting off, then how is anyone possibly meant to know that there's more to come? 🙄
In many countries (including Turkey) operators of public Wi-Fi facilities are legally required to note down the identity of the person corresponding to every connecting device for security reasons. That could be the reason why they would insist taking your ticket number as it was linked to your ID.
9:01 Could be because there's no in-house radio and you weren't close to any radio stations.
For 3 euros I would have sat on my luggage in the corridor. We need more high speed service. If it's cheap it's even better. That the experience is like an old local train is frankly OK. 😀
Saying that it is 3€ kinda misrepresents the situation. Think it like 2 minimum wage hours at the time of filming. Lira lost a lot of value in recent years. But YHT is still kinda cheap
If you had preferred the 8-car Siemens Velaro D model instead of CAF trains, it offered a more modern and comfortable use.
I take care to choose this train when traveling from istanbul to ankara in the same line and way
How do you know which model train is being used?
@@SeeLasSee There are only two different model train sets in Turkey's high-speed train inventory. The first CAF trains entered service in 2009. Siemens Velaro D model is in use since 2014. These two train sets are actively on existing train tracks. And I traveled with both train models numbers of times
@@furkanyldz8460 Indeed, there is a huge difference between those two.
The first thing that struck me as odd is how low the train station's platform was, so much so that the train car's exit needed so many steps down. Japanese shinkansen cabin floors are level with the high station platforms, and boarding/getting off is fast.
There's a conflict between high level platforms for passenger service, and freight clearance. This might come up on tracks with dual use, with MOW equipment clearance, or if the specs for HSR just copy what's used for conventional passenger service. It also makes bilevel trains board from the low level rather than the middle level (for example the North American Bombardier bi-level cars use low level boarding, CalTrans new EMUs have doors for both mid and low level boarding).
Japan is slightly more advanced
@@bjoernaltmannJust slightly?
Slightly 😂 light years ahead buddy
0:07 Please release the video on the AVE S103 Velaro, because I'm going to travel with it on 21st August. I am subscribed to your channel and I like your lovely videos
I have filmed one, but not sure when I will edit it. Have a great trip! :)
@@SuperalbsTravels Ah thanks. Likewise
In order to take the train for 3 Euros in Turkey, Turkish citizens have to buy a car with a sale price of 50 000 Euros in Europe for 100 000 Euros in Turkey. They even have to buy some cars 400% more expensive. This is what it means. 3 Euro is a symbolic price. It does not subtract the costs. You can tell by the neglect of the toilet faucet on the train.
"water and socks" Yes, exactly what I want on the way to catching a train.
Having only one door per carriage on a train serving high-demand routes might just be one of the dumbest decisions ever made. What a shitshow that was lmao
Don't TGV & Thalys also have only 1 door per car too? The mini _Shinkansen_ rolling stock in Japan as well
This is a Spanish train built by CAF, we have them in Spain too (Series 120 and 121 of Renfe).
I overall like them pretty much, but I agree that the single door thing is a clear downside
Polatli’s original station in downtown is functionally useless, with trains mostly to Ankara, adding onto a much more frequent bus service. Only two night trains to Izmir and Istanbul being the grey ducks. Already faster and more frequent services to Istanbul are provided through the YHT depot. The only train of any use there is the Izmir blue train. However, in 2027, even that train will be useless with the Ankara-Izmir YHT line. It’s kinda like a game of pick your poison for the people in Polatli.
At least if there is no devastating earthquake you won't die the most terrible coffin shake crash at high speed ever.
Luggage, specially big ones, are an usual problem when travelling by rail.
As a swiss Iam pretty anouyed that you go into the train before all people left the train. As a train enthusiast... XD
I had no idea more were coming, as nobody got off for a while! 😂
I was annoyed as a Turk too :)
@@aightg Presumably you can magically predict when people are coming then? Cool.
A member of staff on board could sort most of the baggage issue pretty quickly. How much of that 15 minute delay was due to dwell times for this. For all it’s faults least it managed some USB sockets which many in Europe don’t provide.
Ucuz hali bu ise pahalı halini görmek istemiyorum. Balkan,kafkas ve orta doğunun arasında kalan bir ülke için fena idare etmiyor değiliz gerçi.
Orta doğunun iç savaşı
Balkanlarınn nasyonalizm akımı
ve kafkasların rus & iran egomanyasına karşıyız.
Now that does sound cheap in Turkey. Very strange looking station that has been built underground. Still those high speed trains are very nice.
I still remember them being brand new, clean and with good beer at bars. How low we have fallen
The problems of Turkey's Istanbul - Ankara High Speed Railway (YHT) :
1. Too many stops. For example, an Ankara bound train will start the journey usually from Söğütlüçeşme, then stop at Bostancı, Pendik, and Gebze before leaving Istanbul, all of them are still close to each other and connected with the Istanbul's suburban railway Marmaray.
The journey then continues to Izmit, Arifiye, Bilecik, Bozüyük, Eskişehir, Polatlı, Eryaman, and finally Ankara.
The distances between the stops before Eskişehir on average are only between 40 - 50 kilometers (with Bilecik - Bozüyük only about 34 kilometers away).
Lastly, the train will stop at Eryaman before it ends at Ankara, both are actually also being connected with Ankara's suburban railway Başkentray.
In short, there are too many unnecessary stops. Instead of stopping at too many stations, it is much better to provide feeder trains between stations located in larger cities and stations in smaller areas. Or maybe, some stops are just useless, since they are still in a near distance with each other and can be reached easily.
2. Many segments of the tracks, especially the Söğütlüçeşme - Arifiye one is adjacent with the regular rail tracks (Anahat), which are located between dense residential area. This makes the train can only reach speed no more than 100 kilometers per hour at those locations. Aside from reducing the stops numbers, the tracks maybe should be separated from the regular ones.
3. The train departs on time, but always arrives late. Perhaps because the factors mentioned above, or other reasons unknown yet.
4. With all those factors above, the journey takes 5 hours and a half in total. In comparison, the journey will take 5 hours by private cars, 8 hours by buses, and 10 hours by regular night trains. So, the journey is may not as "high speed" as it sounds.
8:46
Goofy aww charging box💀
actually the new Eskisehir station looks for me not much more modern than the old one. The new one has actually quite a 70ties aesthetics. I guess there were some reasons why they could not use the old station anymore but maybe they can use it for other things?
A cabin type luggage easily fits on the top closets. People are just too lazy about using them. About bad conditions, trains were purchased second hand from Spanish high speed train fleet.
Cafeteria only serves packed food after the pandemic it was even fully shot down during the pandemic. It used to serve hot meals and snacks. They will probably return to that sooner or later.
Cafe area is changed now there are much better seats and tables and they have various sandwiches, snacks, cold and hot drinks even starbucks coffee :)
The ice frequently costs 10 € for trips of a few hours
How would one find these cheap tickets?
@@thatsimon4275 by sacrificing their firstborn to Satan
@@thatsimon4275 If you're younger than 27, have a railcard, and buy in advance.
@ThatSimon when traveling from one central station to another and buying the ticket 2-3 weeks prior
@@thatsimon4275 12 euros if u are under 27 without the bahncard for supersparpreis and sparpreis that includes a city ticket is like 15 euros less than 180 days prior ideally 1 month in advance to two months in advance will be chapest
Trains are mainly expensive because they aren't subsidized and deregularized the same way as the aviation industry
Will you be traveling on the new HSL thats about to open between Ankara and Sivas? I would love to see a video about that.
The problem is, it is cheapest high-speed train ofc because of the dolar/euro to TL conversion. So saying world's cheapest would not make a lot of sense since people in Turkey doesn't earn dolar/euro, they earn TL. If you compare the price with the conversion of TL, I don't think it would differ much from the prices of other countries with respect to their own currency.
What🤯 3€! Thats more than taking the train from Åstorp to Malmö with a credit card 💀
if those 3 euros are equal to 61,51 tl its expensive for the turkish people considering its a 2-3 hour ride with a car
@@Boom45335 fuel prices still would be more expensive for a 2-3hour journey
@@Boom45335 yeah obviously👍 but it’s still kinda insane for me. And the service I’m talking about is a regional 30 minute ride with a top speed of 140km/h
I believe this a older version they use a new and a different model in Konya-Ankara(overall radio, chairs, charge stations, laguage storage are a bit different and some other things also way better compared to this model/variant)
For €3, that's an incredible deal, actually.
Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria actually all Balkan countries need more rail routes. There is no more orient express, no more ist-thessaloniki connection, ist-sofia is the only route and you cant even continue to west
Generally when WiFi services like this are locked down and require you to identify yourself in some way to connect, my assumption is that it's not necessarily a matter of keeping people from mooching off the connection, but rather about reducing liability for illegal accesses such as piracy. If such activity were traced back to the train WiFi, the organization can put a name with the logs, whereas otherwise they could perhaps be blamed for not doing their due diligence.
Yep with how crowded the network you can do pretty much anything its just a firewall
It's annoying to get off an aircraft and not be able to take the train with the same luggage.
That price is crazy. I pay more for my 12 km daily commute
I've been using these trains for over 10 years. They used to be a lot faster, reaching 330km/h speed.
as a turkish person, turkish people are weird on trains/airplanes. i dont understand people standing up before even the doors open. just sit for a few minutes and then get up
One of the High Speed Trains in Turkey (Sivas-Ankara Line) was derailed today due to a landslide. There is a Turkish proverb about this situation: "The stew of cheap meat is not edible."
Love the Turkish pronunciation (no pun intended).
Ülkenin haline bak, hindistana dönmüşüz.
2001 önceden daha iyidi dimi ?!?!? hadi ordan ! simdki istanbul, eskisehirin hali siz sorumlusunuz !
Hello sir we have started to using a new generation siemens velaro from siemens german product fast speed trains
I must say ;
Siemens velaro really better than caf ht 65000 train (this is a old gen.fast speed train)
Many yeara ago ı had been experienced caf ht 65000 but siemens velaro s comroft and very well stability going at 250 km/h insurance better than caf ht 65000
I know, check out my video on the new trains too! :)
£3 for a high-speed train service to Ankara? Normally, this is typical or slightly more expensive for the average English commuter (or Australian, since I often use public transport to get around). But this? Incredible. However, low-cost HSR exists in France (Ouigo) and Spain (Avlo).
*SIDENOTE:* Baggage gymnastics is the most dangerous sport in the world. Ha ha ha. 😅
The reason why it is cheap is purely inflation, economic reasons and exchange rate. From Eskişehir to Ankara it will be 3£, from Istanbul to Ankara it will be about approximately 10£, shorter distances are cheaper.
Equals 1 British Pound - 23.30 Turkish Lira
SNCF OuiGo also operates in Spain (under OuiGo España) and Avlo, which is the low cost brand of Renfe. The lowest ticket is 7€ for Avlo and 9€ for OuiGo, Iryo, the 3rd operator, is not low cost but still inexpensive with tickets starting at 18€, and the AVE that starts 17€ (but most at around 30€ and up).
One of the differences with Ouigo (France) is that all luggage is a supplement to pay, so fewer problems with suitcases except during major departures....
@@furkanyldz8460 it's still cheap considering that they are giving this service to a price of a bottle ale tho. YHT is just the best among other transportation options in Turkey, kudos to TCDD.
@@publicname yes it is cheap
but the increasing high cost of prices in turkey affects the purchasing power of the citizens living in turkey, when the train ticket increases, the turks get more expensive, but it becomes cheaper for the tourists. prices don't stay fixed, too volatile
Very minor correction: Polatlı is not a city, it is a district of Ankara
The newer version should fix the little rattlings and other observable uncomfortable placements.
Bruh, its literally cheaper than a short hop to Preston on my local line (sub 10 miles) and this is equivalent to going from Preston to Birmingham, which itself is at least 20x more expensive IF you're lucky enough to be eligible for a railcard
Devlet Demiryolları Karabük kömür vagonlarında gitmenin keyfini bilemeyeceğiz.
Patience is not Turkish people's strong suit.
Meamwhile traveling one station on a german commuter train for 4€ 😂😅😢
Same in UK! 😂
Awesome video
Thanks for your vid and the effort you have taken in also trying to pronounce the Turkish words correctly instead of just saying, what comes to your mind - as many other youtubers seem to do, when they encounter foreign words. As to the video itself. It is a fare which does not even get you a tram ticket in Berlin or Paris, one has to keep that in mind, but also that this figure is distorted by the inflation in Turkey. For Turkish citizens, this might be a lot more expensive. However, being cheap or not: I have never seen a HS-train so mucky and filthy as on this video. Jeez...everything was covered in grime and also lose or not fitting anymore. Türkiye (is that now the spelling in English?) is a highly developed country and sometimes also way backward as seen when travelling. Even on planes, some people stand up even BEFORE landing or immediately after. Then the plane gets faster to the stand!
Thank you! I have to agree regarding people who stand up ages before they need to. It really doesn't help anyone, especially on planes. 🤣
The Turkish boarding-disembarking a train/plane is such a shitty experience. We as a nation&people do everything wrong when it comes to this.
If you’re flying to Germany from Turkey, overhead spaces are almost always get full rather quickly, and even before boarding you will see airline workers asking passengers “can we put your baggage to the luggage compartment, under the plane” because they know the cabin will be full. People almost always stand up when the plane is still moving after landing. And on trains, there’s just not enough space for big luggages.
Queueing? The hell with that. We’ll jump to be the first to get in to the train. Not occupying the aisle when boarding a plane? Who cares about the others.
yes, you can right. Eskisehir is an university city, so its mean there are to much students. They are using YHT for travelling to Istanbul and Ankara to go to their cities. Thatswhyluggages are too much... I don't think so there should be solution. Every country has own some problems..some of them can be solve some of them can't.... I was going to Bath from London once, after a few station, the people filled up all the aisle....No one could passing through...I asked someone who looks like a rugby fan, he said me " there is final match in Bath today"...so I think, in some circumstance the people ignores the emergency :)) anyway...I prefer YHT mostly if I can find ticket, much easier to go to Ankara and back instead of by plane. Unfortunately, TCDD is not care about train cosmetics and interior maintenace as we expecting...its true.
there is but but .... and but, but let me tell you, give me that in Canada with all the downsides
So what was the problem? Just the luggages? I think it's a great train. Here in Italy prices are 10 times higher.
Providing your train ticket number to the train WiFi does de-anonymise you, so if train companies are liable for what you do on their service this is a way to be in compliance with these requirements.
I couldn't help but notice how dirty everything is.
It is alot cheap then traveling by train from London to Holyhead. Why does that route cost so much?
Probably cus London is a tourist capital so they gonna raise prices to make more profit off of tourists
@@strikein8698 The price going to Holyhead from London is dearer, then the price going to London from Holyhead.
Privatization fam
This is not high speed train with 220 km of speed when you compare it to the ones with 650-700 km/hr in other parts of the world. This is the old technology h. speed train of the 1970-1980'ies in Europe, Japan and America.
In Turkey, there is a false belief about trains should be so cheap, so because of that, TCDD and government do not increase prices to logical level. On the other side, terrible private couch buses demand high price with low service quality. Because of that ironi, government do not invest for new train railways. They think railway is not necessary and it has not so much profit to invest... Personally i am Turkish and i prefer railway always but network is not enough
I enjoyed the great coffee smell in turkish High Speed Stations...
If the quality of YHT trains are bad, please check trains in europe.
Welcome to our country.
A lot of your comments were condescending l think. Like the comments in the bathroom. Maybe I missed it but do tell us how the other trains that you've been on were far superior. One of the things that you did not like was the fact that there was one door per car. Do the same train in Spain have two doors, one for depart and another for enter? If the train itself has one door, that's not really the fault of the operator is it?
I'm always paranoid about my stuff when traveling and the fact that the luggage rack can be closed really doesn't help here.
Btw reason its cheapest in the world is Turkish economy. Inflation is all time high and Turkish lira ₺ lost value over all currencies in the world 1$ was equal to 2₺ like 10 years ago now 1$ equals to 21₺ the train operated by TCDD a goverment establishment and generally used by Turkish citizens for daily transportation the price is set in ₺ it must be affordable for average citizen its a normal price in Turkey but when you covert that price into £ or $ its the cheapest train ticket in the world because of inflation.