The CoolerMaster NR200 can have those two extra 120mm fans at the top while the nCase M1 cannot so the NR200 would likely beat the M1 in thermal performance.
About the pump: I have the EK PWM version of the DDC pump, and have it running at 1400rpm in idle at which it is completely silent. At full speed the pump can go up to 4500rpm but I only use that to bleed the loop
The DDC pump in my Apogee Drive II is inaudible over the fans in my system, but my fan profile is a little aggressive so.. HWiNFO claims the CPU_OPT header is reporting 1900RPM at idle and that's where the pump is connected so perhaps my pump profile is also a little aggressive.
This is good to know. Mine came with the Ice P5, but I suspect it will have some noise issues once I actually get it installed and spun up, so I've been looking at pump options. I'll keep this in mind.
@@williamdavis9471 It leans forward into show-off kind of thing. Definitely go check out their website. It says 4/10 for daily productivity by THEMSELVES.
Something you have to know man, i went in a PC parts store in France, told the guy i was into itx build, first thing he replied: do you know Ali from optimum tech on YT ? Dammmmmn !!!! Of course i know him !.. You are the itx king man! Thanks for the awesome work 🤙🏼 si tu me reconnais reply 😅
I have this Iceman solution running with a Pump from EK, also I replicated your complete custom loop ncase build. Instead I use new Ryzen 5950x (Alphcool Block) and EVGA RTX3080 (EK GPU Block). It is my first full custom Loop and it is awesome, your videos helped a lot to get this up an running! My Build looks sick and technically it is unbelievable good! Keep up your great work!
@@mike_all maybe I can do some pictures of the Build but a video step by step guide I can not. But the latest ncase Video from Ali and the "building the ultimate watercooled ncase" video should be good enough to replicate. Hope this helps! If You want to use Iceman Res/pump combo and not want the pump which comes with some versions you need to order the ddc no pump Version. There is a ddc Version with pump and it ist not possible to install different pumps to it cause of the srew hole distance and the hole in the middle of pump mount. Also since I am from Europe I needed special screws to mount the slim cromax Fans on to the XSPC TX 240 Radiator. It is some US type screw and Ali mentioned no problem there but I had this problem and had to shorten the screws for 25mm fans to match for 15mm fans.
Well, maybe you should have installed the anti-vibration kit to silence the pump. It's the whole reason why you can't hear the pump with the free-floating Alphacool DC-LT, but you can hear it, when it's inside the Solo LT CPU block.
soooo... the nice rubber pads that came with the pump allows for the power/pwm cable to run on the back of the pump... so no need to having it "outside" ;)
The ultra minimalist feel of all of your videos is ridiculously satisfying. I'd be hard pressed to find a channel with better videography and quality PC content. I purchased an NCase M1 last year after watching your videos and have been extremely impressed with the case. Love your content. Keep it up!
This is getting irritating. You're building my exact computer before me! I wanted to do a dual rad M1 build and had the parts on order for months! You did your build just days before my parts came in, and now, all I have left is the Iceman pump, just days away, and you beat me to it as well! In all seriousness, great videos and I suppose it's good to have your tips and advice, I just wanted to be one of the first people to do this build haha.
@@jondonnelly3 Lol I've had an AIO for years. I wanted to try something new and build something really cool. Just waiting on those 30 series cards now. I'm sure he'll beat me to those as well :D
I feel you. I've had the IceMan sitting on my desk for a week while the first half of my loop comes in (the CPU side) and wouldn't you know, practically right after the box got dropped off he announces that he's doing a video on the IceMan. This is coming off the heels of the dual-rad two parter, which I've had planned since February and oops Optimum Tech did that video a month ago!
I feel your pain. I have X570-I/3700x/2070S in an almost identical build, even down to the black EK tubing. Been waiting for months to get the iceman pump/res, customs from China are slow. Also waited for months on the Tx240. Using Heatkiller blocks and a HWL GTS240 instead, don't plan on the same Noctua fans getting beyond 600rpm. Using EK 3.2DDC. Even the Corsair 600Plat is the same. Gotta say the vids did clear up a few questions, I'm just 'facepalmed' by the serious similarities.
Since every water cooling piece you have recommended ever is always and forever out of stock, I was forced to DIY a NZXT x62. I have it attached to a slim 240 EK rad, 2 Noctua iPPC 3000 PWM fans, with vinyl tubing from Lowes. I also had to get adapter barbs to convert the small to large tubes going to the standard rad fittings. One thing I think I'll change is to add a fill port and get fittings that are actually for the smaller tubes that fit the NZXT CPU block/pump. All fitting in a Loque Ghost case.
I've been watching your video for 2 years, after I saw your review and comparison of Ncase M1, I bought it immdiately when it was in stock last year . I watched every updates from you about this case since then , and also did some search online, saw people watercooling this case in different ways. All of those pumps and reservoir solution are nice but not really attract me, but this one, is exactly what I'm waiting for! I think its about time to start my own custom watercooling build!
Ordered this two weeks ago, I have an ncase m1 plus 2x240mm rads with a 3950x and rtx 2080 ti. This will complete my build for the ncase m1 V3 . Always love your videos. You are leading the itx revolution in this era of pc building!!! Keep doing you!!!
2:25 Not so sure on the build quality. I'm a machinist so I look at manufacturing a bit differently, but I can see burrs and gouging everywhere. There's a particularly nasty burr inside the water channel itself which will end up getting stuck in your rad or block. All the threads look pretty chewed up, but that's not so big of a deal. A little more attention to detail during post machining QA check is needed and they could adjust the tool path to eliminate that burr.
Hey, I replicated your M1 build with a Aphacool Nexxus ST30 (instead of the EKWB ) and an Eisbaer LT. I used the TPV Alphacool fittings and 12/8mm TPV hose. And it works prefect. I first thougt the DC-LT 2600 would be to weak, but after filling the loop and some testing, the flowrate seems to be fine. On my Asus x570-I the pump runs with a 3200rpm max and above 2600rpm there is nearly no change in temp on the cpu/gpu. So it seems that the flow is enough. In idle I lower the rpm to 1600 and the loop does not stall. Keeps loop 4-5K over ambient. My r5 3600 and RTX 2070 Super OC 120% can be cooled to 40K over ambient under full stress and run seldom over 65C.(And that at max 80% for the fans) My 3600 now runs totaly silent under all core tourture (fans to 900(25mm) and 750(15mm)) . (The GPU delivers 265W under stress and the CPU 80W) So the Eisbaer LT would be a suitable replacement. But it´s also on backorder for weeks now ;-) BTW: I tried the 3600rpm version and was supprised how loud it was!! And also no improvment on the temps
I'm excited to see more case specific pumps, combo blocks and distroblocks. I've seen from the Chinese and Taiwanese scene more dedication to this, its great to see!
As someone who has never done a custom loop before I really like how simple this solution appears. I don't have an M1 but my NR200 should be here on August 20th and this could be a great custom project to reproduce albeit at a slightly larger scale.
I haven't built with a water cooler since thermaltake had their BigWater series. Didn't put me off. I just like the effectiveness of air coolers. These mini water coolers fascinate me though. Really loving the push for more compact and efficient systems.
Already using this pump on my NCASE M1 that I just built last week! Only one rad, but I am working on getting the second rad in it. My build is Asus x570-i, 3950x, 64gb of GSkill, 2x2TB NVME 4.0 in Raid 0, and EVGA 2080ti w/Waterblock. Custom loop using koolance qd3 quick disconnects on a EKWB 240 rad and will be adding a xspc tx240 on the bottom when I can get one.
If you go DDC, get a heatsink for it. Yes, it adds a little bulk in the back. But DDC pumps run hot and don't receive any cooling via the loop like a D5 does.
I don't have an nCase M1 myself, but actually can vouch for external mounting of components. For my 6x120mm build on my Mattrexx 55 I externally mounted my 1x120 and 2x120mm rads to the _outside_ of the case to just give me a little more real estate for working with hoses.
I get wanting to have the pump inside the case, because of how densely packed the case is, to contain the sound, but I think it would make an interesting conversation point to put the reservoir on top of the case so you can see the swirling blue fluid.
I have never done water cooling and I haven't found one that was done in a Corsair crystal 280X case. My build is a Threadripper 2950X with a Sapphire 5700XT Nitro Plus GPU. All your videos are appreciated. Cheers!
Ive just built this because i couldn’t get the drive ii and i love it. You got me onto the ncase m1 prefer the ice man as you say cpu block better options. I used the ek pmw dcc pump and its as quiet as i want it to be. I used the anti vibrate feet with the pump to space the ice man out and still use a 92 mm fan
Awesome little pump/res combo. I happen to have about $500 worth of water cooling equipment out for delivery today from Amazon. I'm doing a vampire themed build in a few weeks in my Thermaltake Level 20 HT full tower case.
This is unreal, was planning my exact build with the pump res combo. Now, all I want to see a full blown build with this one and 2 reservoirs. And de EK DDC pump ofc.
I like this solution a lot. Especially as realistically no matter how small the ITX build, you are going to have the PC at least 5-10cm away from a wall anyway to make room for the cables into the GPU and Mobo anyway, so in reality while it adds volume, it is unlikely to add to the surface footprint taken up by the case
My Swiftech MCP35X (the same one in the Apogee Drive II) runs fairly inaudible until about 2500-3000RPM and maxes out at 4500RPM. I would highly recommend that as the DDC pump to get, as it has one of the best DDC specs for flow/pressure and is powered via Molex and controlled via PWM. I personally use one with a Phanteks R220 res but have also used one with the Apogee Drive II before. I keep mine at a static 2400RPM and the only other moving parts in my PC are 5x NF-A12x25s going between 600-1500RPM depending on coolant temp. If the Iceman comes as just the res, it would pair very well with the 35X pump.
Hello I'm going to be doing a build in this case once the iceman pump arrives. Could you let me know which radiators + thickness used, size of fittings and which ones, which fans and whether they were intake or exhaust on each radiator also which tubing was used? Your build looks very slick and I would like the same experience for my build. Cracking vids Andy
Love it. I have an EK pump/res combo hanging off the back of my ncase and it doesn't look -bad-, but it's definitely a little clunky looking with the exposed tubing - I gotta check this out
Not that I want watercooling, but I definitely wouldn't get something that fits externally. I like to keep all components inside the case, part of the SFF challenge.
I'm still blown away you got the 2080 Ti to work in the T1 without issues. I could barely get my 3070 under control with a single 280. I want an Iceman for my NR200 but hesitant to cutting the holes.
You should do a ncase, da2, or ghost custom loop build with only an external radiator. You could use some special blocks that you could also use for passive cooling. All black fin stacks with matte black tubing and matte black fittings inside a bead blasted silver enclosure. I think it would look pretty sick.
It didn't sound too bad. At 3500rpm it was certainly noticeable though. I'm not a water cooling guy but I like the simplicity of it. Please keep updating this build. I'm really curious how well it can progress.
That little thing looks amazing!! Especially if you swap out the pump. I'd be interested in using this in different cases. And yes I'm aware of having to make mods to the case but hey....that's what makes it fun and custom baby!!!!
Not sure if someone asked this yet, but what is the fluid you are using in this video? And does it have any problems with sediment build up or degradation after a period of time?
You know, it looks like you opted to ignore the vibration isolation that was included (even though they're nearly trivial), you may actually find them to quiet it down a little as the pump's vibration could be transferring to the case and it may be the case vibrating that's causing the noise, or at the very least, adding to it. If you can find an aesthetic way to place an acoustic dampening mat to the assembly, that may also yield excellent results (something like dynamat).
I'm looking at doing my first ever build and really love the look of this and other ITX cases but I'm concerned that the small form factor will make a first time build a complete gongshow.
dont worry about it man, just do a lot of research. If youre worried about making a mistake, just copy the components of a build you find that you know works! I just did it and was also scared but everything turned out great!
One of last uploads pushed me over the edge and I started ordering parts. Couldn't find the Swiftech or the thin rad you used! That lead me to the Iceman as well, but also to Hardware Labs rads. Most have written that their thin rad cools better than even EK PE, which means even more clearance. Maybe enough for push pull with thin fans.
It is lost on me why you would add additional volume. Just get a bigger case. A major joy in building a compact is the ability to fit everything inside.
would like to see a build video of how you would build this out. if you would keep the open air gpu or do a liquid cooled gpu w another rad. confused on this video with the gpu thermal results because it doesn't appear this gpu is being cooled by the pump at all.
Expensive, noisy or even more expensive with the right pump, aluminium back plate of the assembly will make your loop mixed metals for increased risk of galvanic corrosion... with two rads I would try to run two Alphacool DDC pumps instead...
Back panel is stainless steel, not aluminum. It could be more expensive when you factor in all the extra parts (res, pump, 2 extra fittings, cpu block vs the apogee which is a cpu block and pump only), but you get more flexibility in what you pick. It also frees up room inside the case and gives you a res while still allowing dual 240 rads. Most people that have a res inside the ncase can only run a bottom slim 240 and a 92 on the back, since they usually mount it to the back of the front panel or to the PSU/bracket. Also the apogee is still pretty expensive and fairly difficult to find for the most part. ($140+ USD) Not sure how much you would actually save if anything by running dual DDC or DC-LT pumps. Might be interesting to test though. I picked the clear version with argb, a decent plexi cpu block + argb, and a 17w barrow ddc pump and it was about about $175 USD. Call it $185 or so with the 2 extra fittings you need for the res. I'm excluding the 2 you need for the block since you would need the same for the apogee. Obviously it could be cheaper, if you went with cheaper options; like the bundle with the cheap-y P5 pump they have and a super basic block. You could probably get something that is just in line with what an apogee would cost, if you picked carefully.
Totally off-topic (and love this vid, your production values just keep going up and up) but what is that cylindrical light that shows up at 1:37? Love it and I want to throw a couple around the room.
Got the Iceman Res/Pump, took 12 days from china to USA. I got the one with the 4 pin fan hub and it works flawlessly. Also the noise is silent. This is definitely the way to go. My 3950x and 2080ti stay below 65c while gaming and I couldnt ask for any better performance!!!!
A shame really that you can't see that awesome reservoir or the slick coloured liquid. Would be nice if you did a basics of water cooling video-types of pumps(idk the diff b/w DDC & DC), types of fans, rads, monoblock/Cpu block, etc
Can you do an NR200 build? Something like a 3600 with a 2060 super. Maybe do an AIO and air cooled just to give a build guide for each since it’s a new case
is there just 1 rad in this video or am i missing something. it appears like its just the cpu being liquid cooled, is that what you would recommend? or would you recommend 2 rads and liquid cooling the gpu with this iceman, but just didn't have the time to do that for the video. curious because i would like to do something similar, unless the temps on the gpu are fine as a open air style.
If the case wasnt $200 I would have loved to do this. Instead I got an ophion evo. Hacked it up to fit 2 240 rads, DDC and 50x100 res so its still pretty cramped. Though i dropped one of the glass panels so i almost spent that much on the case now lol. I am using a bykski 10w pump. Its quiet but its not hard mounted and supported by the tubing.
I'd really like it if you maintained a video with your 'optimum' ITX build - air and water, as well as a build guide. I'd love to do one but I feel a little nervous when you say you run into the occasional issue.
I'm planning about building a custom loop but using the Sisbeir Lt Solo with dual rads. What you think? The water flow will be a issue? This is my first custom loop. Thanks man, love the content.
I saw a beautiful wooden case on Aliexpress called the Barrowch Neoclassical, would love to hear your opinion on it. can fit a full GPU and 240mm rad. But looks like airflow would be an issue since its full wood around.
maybe there should be a whole back panel replacement(remove the whole back side of the M1, and somehow the new one have pump/res integrated without protruding that much)
An EK DDC is going to be no different sound wise and every other way-wise than a Bykski. Every single one is made by the exact same manu in the exact same factories. They are just re-labeled for the different manu's.
i don't know if you ever read your comments, but when you click with your mouse against silence, most if not all people watching this dont have headphones on. thus rendering your noise level section a bit worthless? would it be a bit more STATIC if you got a decibel meter for 20$ that compares your main build (with the fans) in comparison with this by using a meter that VISUALLY represents the noise level? otherwise at some points in the video it'll just go silent and it doesn't do anything but that. HOWEVER, i understand to each their own, i was just merely suggesting it.
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It would be interesting to see a custom loop build in the new cooler master NR200 and compare the performance with this ncase m1 build
I just want the case to be available 😅
Exactly, I vote for NR200 as well, a very interesting case! Looking forward to seeing it more
The CoolerMaster NR200 can have those two extra 120mm fans at the top while the nCase M1 cannot so the NR200 would likely beat the M1 in thermal performance.
@Jim Bond ITS UP ON THE COOLER MASTER SITE
imagine 3*240 rad in under 20L case. though I'm not sure if it's possible to fit a rad in the top fan spot of the nr200
About the pump: I have the EK PWM version of the DDC pump, and have it running at 1400rpm in idle at which it is completely silent. At full speed the pump can go up to 4500rpm but I only use that to bleed the loop
The DDC pump in my Apogee Drive II is inaudible over the fans in my system, but my fan profile is a little aggressive so.. HWiNFO claims the CPU_OPT header is reporting 1900RPM at idle and that's where the pump is connected so perhaps my pump profile is also a little aggressive.
Is this the pump you are using? @gekko12482 www.amazon.com/EK-DDC-3-25-12V-DC-pump/dp/B00K5AGH20
This is good to know. Mine came with the Ice P5, but I suspect it will have some noise issues once I actually get it installed and spun up, so I've been looking at pump options. I'll keep this in mind.
@@zaneerikson8606 how do you install? Do you have to disassemble to get rid of the inlet/outlet ports?
@@MrSolomez yes but that's very easy
Yeah ok that purple looks sick.
I heard this in your voice
is it the primochill VUe?
@@williamdavis9471 Yes it is. It's not for daily use tho.
@@ichdiewurst6153 Why is it not for daily use? Is it a bad cooling liquid snd only for show?
@@williamdavis9471 It leans forward into show-off kind of thing. Definitely go check out their website. It says 4/10 for daily productivity by THEMSELVES.
Something you have to know man, i went in a PC parts store in France, told the guy i was into itx build, first thing he replied: do you know Ali from optimum tech on YT ? Dammmmmn !!!! Of course i know him !.. You are the itx king man! Thanks for the awesome work 🤙🏼 si tu me reconnais reply 😅
I’ll sleep tonight now, thanks
Ça va je suis pas le seul FR sur cette chaîne 😂😂
Cool ! Quel magasin ? Ca fait plaisir de voir des vendeurs qui s'y connaissent !
Matériel.net a Nantes 😎
Interessant pour le commu francophone, nous aussi on veut du itx. 👍
I have this Iceman solution running with a Pump from EK, also I replicated your complete custom loop ncase build. Instead I use new Ryzen 5950x (Alphcool Block) and EVGA RTX3080 (EK GPU Block). It is my first full custom Loop and it is awesome, your videos helped a lot to get this up an running! My Build looks sick and technically it is unbelievable good! Keep up your great work!
I would like to know your step by step process on how you do it. Care to upload a video on your channe?
I appreciate it if you can.
Thanks
@@mike_all maybe I can do some pictures of the Build but a video step by step guide I can not. But the latest ncase Video from Ali and the "building the ultimate watercooled ncase" video should be good enough to replicate. Hope this helps!
If You want to use Iceman Res/pump combo and not want the pump which comes with some versions you need to order the ddc no pump Version. There is a ddc Version with pump and it ist not possible to install different pumps to it cause of the srew hole distance and the hole in the middle of pump mount.
Also since I am from Europe I needed special screws to mount the slim cromax Fans on to the XSPC TX 240 Radiator. It is some US type screw and Ali mentioned no problem there but I had this problem and had to shorten the screws for 25mm fans to match for 15mm fans.
@@nbacX85 Yeah some pictures will do.
Thank you
@@nbacX85 also, how do you drain nd flush the water on this.
Am i the only one who thinks it looks like a nether portal?
Yea, it looks soo sick. I dont even want the case but this is sick.
Yeah it's the Primochill Vue. Hella cool looking fluid but not very practical for everyday use
I see amogus
Well, maybe you should have installed the anti-vibration kit to silence the pump. It's the whole reason why you can't hear the pump with the free-floating Alphacool DC-LT, but you can hear it, when it's inside the Solo LT CPU block.
What is this anti-vibration kit? Can’t find it
What is that if you don't mind me asking? I can't find it
@@casualfreediving8780 4:02 in the video! It's the little rubber pieces it came with:)
soooo... the nice rubber pads that came with the pump allows for the power/pwm cable to run on the back of the pump... so no need to having it "outside" ;)
Price in my country.
Ncase M1: ~$450
Iceman: ~$150
Bye bye
i think you got the same country as mine, so goddamn high import fee.
The ultra minimalist feel of all of your videos is ridiculously satisfying. I'd be hard pressed to find a channel with better videography and quality PC content. I purchased an NCase M1 last year after watching your videos and have been extremely impressed with the case. Love your content. Keep it up!
This is getting irritating. You're building my exact computer before me! I wanted to do a dual rad M1 build and had the parts on order for months! You did your build just days before my parts came in, and now, all I have left is the Iceman pump, just days away, and you beat me to it as well!
In all seriousness, great videos and I suppose it's good to have your tips and advice, I just wanted to be one of the first people to do this build haha.
Well just watch his video and send your stuff back, he saved you a LOAD of money! Then stick an AIO instead.
@@jondonnelly3 Lol I've had an AIO for years. I wanted to try something new and build something really cool. Just waiting on those 30 series cards now. I'm sure he'll beat me to those as well :D
I feel you. I've had the IceMan sitting on my desk for a week while the first half of my loop comes in (the CPU side) and wouldn't you know, practically right after the box got dropped off he announces that he's doing a video on the IceMan. This is coming off the heels of the dual-rad two parter, which I've had planned since February and oops Optimum Tech did that video a month ago!
@@warmachine5835 theirs nothing wrong with buying the parts this guy suggests is there?
I feel your pain. I have X570-I/3700x/2070S in an almost identical build, even down to the black EK tubing. Been waiting for months to get the iceman pump/res, customs from China are slow. Also waited for months on the Tx240. Using Heatkiller blocks and a HWL GTS240 instead, don't plan on the same Noctua fans getting beyond 600rpm. Using EK 3.2DDC. Even the Corsair 600Plat is the same.
Gotta say the vids did clear up a few questions, I'm just 'facepalmed' by the serious similarities.
Since every water cooling piece you have recommended ever is always and forever out of stock, I was forced to DIY a NZXT x62. I have it attached to a slim 240 EK rad, 2 Noctua iPPC 3000 PWM fans, with vinyl tubing from Lowes. I also had to get adapter barbs to convert the small to large tubes going to the standard rad fittings. One thing I think I'll change is to add a fill port and get fittings that are actually for the smaller tubes that fit the NZXT CPU block/pump. All fitting in a Loque Ghost case.
best itx reviewer...will be my guides for next pc build..nice job,bro..keep up!!!
just dont put the gpu on top of the lower 120mm fans like he has n your good to go
@@gazj Care to elaborate as to why not?
I've been watching your video for 2 years, after I saw your review and comparison of Ncase M1, I bought it immdiately when it was in stock last year . I watched every updates from you about this case since then , and also did some search online, saw people watercooling this case in different ways. All of those pumps and reservoir solution are nice but not really attract me, but this one, is exactly what I'm waiting for! I think its about time to start my own custom watercooling build!
Ordered this two weeks ago, I have an ncase m1 plus 2x240mm rads with a 3950x and rtx 2080 ti. This will complete my build for the ncase m1 V3 . Always love your videos. You are leading the itx revolution in this era of pc building!!! Keep doing you!!!
2:25 Not so sure on the build quality. I'm a machinist so I look at manufacturing a bit differently, but I can see burrs and gouging everywhere. There's a particularly nasty burr inside the water channel itself which will end up getting stuck in your rad or block. All the threads look pretty chewed up, but that's not so big of a deal. A little more attention to detail during post machining QA check is needed and they could adjust the tool path to eliminate that burr.
I did a full loop in a Ncase back in 2016, I wish the Iceman had been available at that time. This is absolutely perfect for the Ncase. Great review.
everything u show us here is sold out one hour after your uploads 😖
Out of stock in 3 2 1..
Still in stock
Hey, I replicated your M1 build with a Aphacool Nexxus ST30 (instead of the EKWB ) and an Eisbaer LT.
I used the TPV Alphacool fittings and 12/8mm TPV hose.
And it works prefect.
I first thougt the DC-LT 2600 would be to weak, but after filling the loop and some testing, the flowrate seems to be fine.
On my Asus x570-I the pump runs with a 3200rpm max and above 2600rpm there is nearly no change in temp on the cpu/gpu.
So it seems that the flow is enough.
In idle I lower the rpm to 1600 and the loop does not stall. Keeps loop 4-5K over ambient.
My r5 3600 and RTX 2070 Super OC 120% can be cooled to 40K over ambient under full stress and run seldom over 65C.(And that at max 80% for the fans)
My 3600 now runs totaly silent under all core tourture (fans to 900(25mm) and 750(15mm)) .
(The GPU delivers 265W under stress and the CPU 80W)
So the Eisbaer LT would be a suitable replacement.
But it´s also on backorder for weeks now ;-)
BTW: I tried the 3600rpm version and was supprised how loud it was!!
And also no improvment on the temps
I'm excited to see more case specific pumps, combo blocks and distroblocks. I've seen from the Chinese and Taiwanese scene more dedication to this, its great to see!
As someone who has never done a custom loop before I really like how simple this solution appears. I don't have an M1 but my NR200 should be here on August 20th and this could be a great custom project to reproduce albeit at a slightly larger scale.
Give a man some LIKES.This channel is so underrated.
I haven't built with a water cooler since thermaltake had their BigWater series. Didn't put me off.
I just like the effectiveness of air coolers.
These mini water coolers fascinate me though. Really loving the push for more compact and efficient systems.
Already using this pump on my NCASE M1 that I just built last week! Only one rad, but I am working on getting the second rad in it. My build is Asus x570-i, 3950x, 64gb of GSkill, 2x2TB NVME 4.0 in Raid 0, and EVGA 2080ti w/Waterblock. Custom loop using koolance qd3 quick disconnects on a EKWB 240 rad and will be adding a xspc tx240 on the bottom when I can get one.
It's only cheating if you don't mention that additional volume.
Hey man, it's Free Real Estate
@@warmachine5835 Well, considering you probably pay for the room you live in, it's not free xD
Yea it's ~0.6 liters :P but on the other hand however all the cables also extend past the case so the it would require that space anyway ;)
If you go DDC, get a heatsink for it. Yes, it adds a little bulk in the back. But DDC pumps run hot and don't receive any cooling via the loop like a D5 does.
I don't have an nCase M1 myself, but actually can vouch for external mounting of components. For my 6x120mm build on my Mattrexx 55 I externally mounted my 1x120 and 2x120mm rads to the _outside_ of the case to just give me a little more real estate for working with hoses.
I get wanting to have the pump inside the case, because of how densely packed the case is, to contain the sound, but I think it would make an interesting conversation point to put the reservoir on top of the case so you can see the swirling blue fluid.
I have never done water cooling and I haven't found one that was done in a Corsair crystal 280X case. My build is a Threadripper 2950X with a Sapphire 5700XT Nitro Plus GPU. All your videos are appreciated. Cheers!
Ive just built this because i couldn’t get the drive ii and i love it. You got me onto the ncase m1 prefer the ice man as you say cpu block better options. I used the ek pmw dcc pump and its as quiet as i want it to be. I used the anti vibrate feet with the pump to space the ice man out and still use a 92 mm fan
That colour of cooling solution looks amazing omg
Awesome little pump/res combo. I happen to have about $500 worth of water cooling equipment out for delivery today from Amazon. I'm doing a vampire themed build in a few weeks in my Thermaltake Level 20 HT full tower case.
This is unreal, was planning my exact build with the pump res combo. Now, all I want to see a full blown build with this one and 2 reservoirs. And de EK DDC pump ofc.
I like this solution a lot. Especially as realistically no matter how small the ITX build, you are going to have the PC at least 5-10cm away from a wall anyway to make room for the cables into the GPU and Mobo anyway, so in reality while it adds volume, it is unlikely to add to the surface footprint taken up by the case
My Swiftech MCP35X (the same one in the Apogee Drive II) runs fairly inaudible until about 2500-3000RPM and maxes out at 4500RPM. I would highly recommend that as the DDC pump to get, as it has one of the best DDC specs for flow/pressure and is powered via Molex and controlled via PWM. I personally use one with a Phanteks R220 res but have also used one with the Apogee Drive II before. I keep mine at a static 2400RPM and the only other moving parts in my PC are 5x NF-A12x25s going between 600-1500RPM depending on coolant temp. If the Iceman comes as just the res, it would pair very well with the 35X pump.
Hello
I'm going to be doing a build in this case once the iceman pump arrives. Could you let me know which radiators + thickness used, size of fittings and which ones, which fans and whether they were intake or exhaust on each radiator also which tubing was used?
Your build looks very slick and I would like the same experience for my build.
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Just to add, I intend a dual radiator so have a little more room in the basement as I have a waterblock on my gpu
This reminds me of the old 5 1/4" dual bay pump/res setups, of which I had one in my NZXT Phantom for my first ever water cooled set up
Love it. I have an EK pump/res combo hanging off the back of my ncase and it doesn't look -bad-, but it's definitely a little clunky looking with the exposed tubing - I gotta check this out
Not that I want watercooling, but I definitely wouldn't get something that fits externally. I like to keep all components inside the case, part of the SFF challenge.
Its so cool. I know the NR200 its bigger and possibly you can attach a bigger pump-res, but this is an option too
I know that’s an odd placement of the pump but I liked it a lot. Thank for showing this off Aly. (:
I'll be waiting for your instructions on using this with next gen hardware when it comes out!
I'm still blown away you got the 2080 Ti to work in the T1 without issues. I could barely get my 3070 under control with a single 280. I want an Iceman for my NR200 but hesitant to cutting the holes.
I've been trying to work out how to attach a pump/res combo to the back of the N1 forever. This is amazing.
You should probably try those anti vibration mounting spacers you decided not to use. It should help at least a little bit.
Finally I have no reasons to not do a build in the ncase m1. 😭😍
You should do a ncase, da2, or ghost custom loop build with only an external radiator. You could use some special blocks that you could also use for passive cooling. All black fin stacks with matte black tubing and matte black fittings inside a bead blasted silver enclosure. I think it would look pretty sick.
I just ordered this case, I plan to build a monster Watercooled Build this winter. :)
Thanks for the amazing content in the ITX range! I'm considering making a custom loop in my M1! This is a very nice solution!
It didn't sound too bad. At 3500rpm it was certainly noticeable though. I'm not a water cooling guy but I like the simplicity of it. Please keep updating this build. I'm really curious how well it can progress.
That little thing looks amazing!! Especially if you swap out the pump. I'd be interested in using this in different cases. And yes I'm aware of having to make mods to the case but hey....that's what makes it fun and custom baby!!!!
Not sure if someone asked this yet, but what is the fluid you are using in this video? And does it have any problems with sediment build up or degradation after a period of time?
"The pump definitely makes some noise"
Me: "... nope, can't hear it over the night time crickets and frogs"
You know, it looks like you opted to ignore the vibration isolation that was included (even though they're nearly trivial), you may actually find them to quiet it down a little as the pump's vibration could be transferring to the case and it may be the case vibrating that's causing the noise, or at the very least, adding to it. If you can find an aesthetic way to place an acoustic dampening mat to the assembly, that may also yield excellent results (something like dynamat).
pre-ordered my NCase yesterday and motherboard/psu! Finally building an ITX build
I'm looking at doing my first ever build and really love the look of this and other ITX cases but I'm concerned that the small form factor will make a first time build a complete gongshow.
dont worry about it man, just do a lot of research. If youre worried about making a mistake, just copy the components of a build you find that you know works! I just did it and was also scared but everything turned out great!
The pump looks like a sideways Nether Portal it’s so cool
Wow, the universe inside a Pump. hahahaha!
Nice!
This video deserves an HDR version. =D
keep in mind this Res works also with the Cerberus Case =)
One of last uploads pushed me over the edge and I started ordering parts. Couldn't find the Swiftech or the thin rad you used! That lead me to the Iceman as well, but also to Hardware Labs rads. Most have written that their thin rad cools better than even EK PE, which means even more clearance. Maybe enough for push pull with thin fans.
It is lost on me why you would add additional volume. Just get a bigger case.
A major joy in building a compact is the ability to fit everything inside.
would like to see a build video of how you would build this out. if you would keep the open air gpu or do a liquid cooled gpu w another rad. confused on this video with the gpu thermal results because it doesn't appear this gpu is being cooled by the pump at all.
Expensive, noisy or even more expensive with the right pump, aluminium back plate of the assembly will make your loop mixed metals for increased risk of galvanic corrosion... with two rads I would try to run two Alphacool DDC pumps instead...
Back panel is stainless steel, not aluminum.
It could be more expensive when you factor in all the extra parts (res, pump, 2 extra fittings, cpu block vs the apogee which is a cpu block and pump only), but you get more flexibility in what you pick. It also frees up room inside the case and gives you a res while still allowing dual 240 rads. Most people that have a res inside the ncase can only run a bottom slim 240 and a 92 on the back, since they usually mount it to the back of the front panel or to the PSU/bracket. Also the apogee is still pretty expensive and fairly difficult to find for the most part. ($140+ USD) Not sure how much you would actually save if anything by running dual DDC or DC-LT pumps. Might be interesting to test though.
I picked the clear version with argb, a decent plexi cpu block + argb, and a 17w barrow ddc pump and it was about about $175 USD. Call it $185 or so with the 2 extra fittings you need for the res. I'm excluding the 2 you need for the block since you would need the same for the apogee. Obviously it could be cheaper, if you went with cheaper options; like the bundle with the cheap-y P5 pump they have and a super basic block. You could probably get something that is just in line with what an apogee would cost, if you picked carefully.
my cases have a fan mounted externally. just happens to my personal rigs. i've accespetd it as my style, and i like this too
Totally off-topic (and love this vid, your production values just keep going up and up) but what is that cylindrical light that shows up at 1:37? Love it and I want to throw a couple around the room.
Got the Iceman Res/Pump, took 12 days from china to USA. I got the one with the 4 pin fan hub and it works flawlessly. Also the noise is silent. This is definitely the way to go. My 3950x and 2080ti stay below 65c while gaming and I couldnt ask for any better performance!!!!
How is yours silent, but the one in the video is loud?
A shame really that you can't see that awesome reservoir or the slick coloured liquid.
Would be nice if you did a basics of water cooling video-types of pumps(idk the diff b/w DDC & DC), types of fans, rads, monoblock/Cpu block, etc
So there's some past talk about what this res is made of. Post on reddit say its made of stainless steel, so galvanic corrosion should be minimal
Can you do an NR200 build? Something like a 3600 with a 2060 super. Maybe do an AIO and air cooled just to give a build guide for each since it’s a new case
is there just 1 rad in this video or am i missing something. it appears like its just the cpu being liquid cooled, is that what you would recommend? or would you recommend 2 rads and liquid cooling the gpu with this iceman, but just didn't have the time to do that for the video. curious because i would like to do something similar, unless the temps on the gpu are fine as a open air style.
For this video, it looks like only 1 radiator was used. He did a video on a dual radiator setup in the M1, but the Iceman Pump/Res combo was not used.
great vid! I was wondering what that coolant was. it looks so good!
If the case wasnt $200 I would have loved to do this. Instead I got an ophion evo. Hacked it up to fit 2 240 rads, DDC and 50x100 res so its still pretty cramped. Though i dropped one of the glass panels so i almost spent that much on the case now lol. I am using a bykski 10w pump. Its quiet but its not hard mounted and supported by the tubing.
Quite nice, it could easily be used with other cases as well with a bit of modding. Having easy access to the fill and drain ports might be handy.
Great video! I'm waiting on ampere's release to build my own dual rad Ncase M1. Will be using the apogee drive II cos I bought it a long time ago lol
I have this setup for my ITX road rig. Seriously the best bespoke piece of hardware for the NCase if you plan on custom watercooling.
I'd really like it if you maintained a video with your 'optimum' ITX build - air and water, as well as a build guide. I'd love to do one but I feel a little nervous when you say you run into the occasional issue.
Can you also make a watercooled version for the m2? That would be hilarious!
the god of mini pc builds is here known as optimum tech love your content bro
Would love to see a build with an old school water box setup.
Some serious Wipe Out (PSX) vibes in that intro music.
frankly with a pump sticking like that in the back, its just worth it to get a bigger extended case because its the same footprint.
I don't know if you've ever mentioned it before, but what kind of tubing do you use in your builds, as in what size and type of tubing is it?
A “quick release mount” would be fire for breakdown
Been running this for about a year. It's great.
Amazing build!! How do you have the fans configured? Pushed air through the roads or pulling air through the rads? Thanks!
This is very tempting for my Ncase.
awesome piece of hardware! does it fit also at v5 of the ncase m1? cant wait for that dual rad ampere with Ryzen 4000 build!
I'm planning about building a custom loop but using the Sisbeir Lt Solo with dual rads. What you think? The water flow will be a issue? This is my first custom loop. Thanks man, love the content.
I saw a beautiful wooden case on Aliexpress called the Barrowch Neoclassical, would love to hear your opinion on it. can fit a full GPU and 240mm rad. But looks like airflow would be an issue since its full wood around.
what kind of liquid he used ? because this Purple looks really good!
i am for SURE getting one of these when the GTX 3000 series cards come out
maybe there should be a whole back panel replacement(remove the whole back side of the M1, and somehow the new one have pump/res integrated without protruding that much)
I wouldn't be too worried, I practically live with active noise-cancellation headphones on my head.
That looks pretty sick! Do you think, the Pump of the BeQuiet Silent Loop is powerful enough, to add a GPU Block to the System?
I wish the NCase updated to some more minimal looks and more aluminum
In my opinion, nothing should go outside of the case. Why then is it needed? I'm waiting the video on cable management in ssf. Thank you.
An EK DDC is going to be no different sound wise and every other way-wise than a Bykski. Every single one is made by the exact same manu in the exact same factories. They are just re-labeled for the different manu's.
i don't know if you ever read your comments, but when you click with your mouse against silence, most if not all people watching this dont have headphones on. thus rendering your noise level section a bit worthless? would it be a bit more STATIC if you got a decibel meter for 20$ that compares your main build (with the fans) in comparison with this by using a meter that VISUALLY represents the noise level? otherwise at some points in the video it'll just go silent and it doesn't do anything but that. HOWEVER, i understand to each their own, i was just merely suggesting it.
Would love to see a dual rad build video with this!