What if Anakin AND Obi-Wan Went To Kashyyyk WITH Yoda?

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  • @jaycerussell7761
    @jaycerussell7761 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    "Stained in the blood of Fisto" I literally couldn't hold in my laughter. Fisto already made grievous look like a padawan when they fought. He'd wreck him easily.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That is quite true. I find it hard to believe that Fisto would lose.

  • @RipCityBassWorks
    @RipCityBassWorks ปีที่แล้ว +22

    *Obi Wan turns his head to Obi Wan* "why, hello there"

    • @Vman-km5nu
      @Vman-km5nu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dang beat me to it lol

    • @stephenwells6434
      @stephenwells6434 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obi-wan responded, "General Kenobi!"

  • @SaturnBlade
    @SaturnBlade ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Fisto would beat Grievous. He did so easily in the Clone Wars.

    • @Fleeing_felony
      @Fleeing_felony ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You forgot the environment in the battle it was mainly the reason Fisto won.

    • @sndsunderstagel3114
      @sndsunderstagel3114 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Didn't he have two lightsabers in that fight? Plus fisto didn't win, he knocked grievous to the ground and then they carried on. Fisto also was able to catch greivous off balance because of the fog which wouldn't be there in utapau and also this is just speculation but greivous might not have even taken the time to fight fisto 1 on 1 he may have only not had his troops kill Kenobi because of how much history they had, whereas fisto is just that one guy who's padawan I killed

    • @Fleeing_felony
      @Fleeing_felony ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sndsunderstagel3114 Well yeah

    • @Generaloliverswanik
      @Generaloliverswanik ปีที่แล้ว +14

      4rl didn't Lucas say that mace windu beats sidious in thw duel, anakin full power all limbs is more powerful than sidious, and kit fisto could mop grievous in a 1v1

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think Fisto would've won the fight against Grievous.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I like where much of this story went. Although I find it very hard to believe that Kit Fisto would lost to Grievous.

  • @Politebanana1
    @Politebanana1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    4:48 he said, "obi wan turns his head to obi wan." Hahaha huh??

    • @battleboat12
      @battleboat12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And he felt confused at the same time gotta love it.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "What if" the love of Qui-Gon's like didn't die.

  • @nathanwhite2689
    @nathanwhite2689 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wait a minute the last time Master Fisto fought Grievous Master Fisto won, I can't see him losing to Grievous.

    • @darthnihilusreborn14
      @darthnihilusreborn14 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, General Grievous could copy the styles of those he fought, and he ( in this context ) probably copied Kit Fistos style from his first loss. That’s how I like to see it

    • @Fleeing_felony
      @Fleeing_felony ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And don’t forget the environment , Fisto won thanks to his environment

    • @darthnihilusreborn14
      @darthnihilusreborn14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Fleeing_felony yeah that’s true. I’m just the generic open area Grievous and Obi-wan were in, Grievous has more ground to his advantage. Grievous kinda screwed himself over against Fisto on the cliff since he was surrounded by his Magna Guards as well, and Fisto knew how to fight well in a closed space since Form I ( Shii-Cho ) is made to be a default go-to form when nothing else works, and Fisto was a master of Form I.

    • @Fleeing_felony
      @Fleeing_felony ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darthnihilusreborn14mhm.

    • @jdgreen1802
      @jdgreen1802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@darthnihilusreborn14no he couldn’t because fisto technically doesn’t have a set style. He uses form one, which has hundreds of random strikes throughout a fight, and fisto has spent his entire life mastering the form. So even if grevious was to scan and memorize every move there is to make it, would be impossible for his to guess/predict which strike he would throw, in what order, and where. It’s why fisto beat him the first time, he’s basically Grevious kryptonite. However I do agree that the environment play a part. As, in comparison, if he where to take the same approach as Obi-wan, I don’t know how he would fare considering their fight had many different stages, and even Obi-wan technically lost their duel but won due to having that blaster in the end. And idk if fisto would be able to go through everything the same too many outside factors to be sure.
      In a straight up 1v1 Fisto wins mid-diff

  • @blazingblazers14
    @blazingblazers14 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of your best videos. Loved the scenarios and in depth descriptions!

  • @gabrielaj2066
    @gabrielaj2066 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video, this is almost like the one video what if windu gave Anakin access to the secret Jedi room!

  • @nikolaj.6693
    @nikolaj.6693 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One small mistake: Ventress at the time of rots was already dead, killed by the count himself

    • @paulielamothe4134
      @paulielamothe4134 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      She's alive. She survived her bout with Dooku and is in the Bad Batch

  • @vinceagorn
    @vinceagorn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was truly one of your best videos :-)🎉

  • @KelvinShadewing
    @KelvinShadewing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Obi Wan turns his head to Obi Wan." I swear, I felt like it slipped into YTP for a moment. XD

  • @bacaawesomerorie2788
    @bacaawesomerorie2788 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What if main Star Wars characters become superhero in the original trilogy

  • @benjaminparker671
    @benjaminparker671 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    What If the Jedi Temple Bombing never occurred
    What If Padme didn't fall out of the Transport in Attack Of The Clones

    • @LunarStrike4
      @LunarStrike4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The first one would make change but whatever Palpatine will come on the top and manipulate Anakin with the dreams

  • @kobevandal5149
    @kobevandal5149 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What if Anakin Skywalker knows his origins with his visions

  • @robertruse6552
    @robertruse6552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay this story was very good I did enjoy it I do wish they were a lot longer and I hope you come back and make a part 2 to this one and keep up the good work

  • @Fox45_
    @Fox45_ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What if rex and anakin believe fives's investigation on the inhibitor chip

  • @desmondnunez9688
    @desmondnunez9688 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I feel like Ventress wouldn’t have agreed to carrying out such an attempt on Padme’s life, ESPECIALLY such a request that came from Palpatine/Darth Sidious. She was already resentful of her master, Dooku, so accepting such a mission from Palpatine would be completely out of character. But, idk, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen the Clone Wars show.🤷🏽

    • @thewraith1115
      @thewraith1115 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She’s dead by this time anyways. Dooku kills her

    • @zacg8975
      @zacg8975 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thewraith1115That's true but did she get to become a Force Ghost or get redeemed

    • @Truly_Sithari
      @Truly_Sithari ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zacg8975even if she became a force ghost she would have NEVER helped the sith

    • @thewraith1115
      @thewraith1115 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacg8975 she was redeemed but didn’t become a force ghost

    • @getBhavinShah
      @getBhavinShah ปีที่แล้ว

      She would have been dead by then

  • @mazukai6525
    @mazukai6525 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Something i dont understand is how Obi wan is suddenly getting clipped in the leg by grevious, i get its to make it more dramatic but Obi Wan beat Grevious by himself in the original timeline sustaining no injuries, in this scenario grevious is going against 3 jedi it makes no sense.

    • @keithkahler1327
      @keithkahler1327 ปีที่แล้ว

      no injuries except perhaps nasty bruising from when Grievous kicked him

    • @stephenwells6434
      @stephenwells6434 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the canon, Obi-wan fought Grievous several times. He won the majority of those fights, but he did lose a few. It isn't impossible for Grievous to wound him if the situation presents him an opportunity.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "What if" Sabine Wren discovered that she was Force-Sensitive at the same time Ezra did in the SW: Rebels series.

  • @N1ght_Breaker
    @N1ght_Breaker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Obi wan turns his head to Obi Wan" 💀

  • @jamesmcdaniel-d7y
    @jamesmcdaniel-d7y ปีที่แล้ว

    yoooo anyone else realise padme looks like shes screaming 'anakin help/save me, please!"? O-O

  • @Generaloliverswanik
    @Generaloliverswanik ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How come u killed kit Fisto off to grievous isn't it canonical he'd beat him in a 1v1 I mean he'll he did in a 1v5 in grievous's HQ

  • @giornogiovanna9903
    @giornogiovanna9903 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:44 glad both obi-wans agree

  • @robertrucker9210
    @robertrucker9210 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm curious about how Anakin would have reacted if when mace denied him the rank of master if mace had explained it was simply because his Padawan had not attained knighthood

    • @mariusconstantin6057
      @mariusconstantin6057 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some were promoted because they did a Master-level task or because of their service to the Order.
      And Anakin sacrificed a lot

  • @dianesinger9729
    @dianesinger9729 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sad Fisto had to die, but glad Sidious is dead and Anakin never went dark.

  • @LunarStrike4
    @LunarStrike4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    What if Palpatine was trained by the Sith who did no evil (Darth Vectivus). This should all happen in prequels time line.
    Edit:-I have never seen my what if fulfilling so, will you please🙏🙏🙏 do it.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว

    "What if" The Jedi discovered that the Sith Temple under their own on Coruscant was corrupting them.

  • @haydenfowle7576
    @haydenfowle7576 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ventress would be dead at this time

  • @dalejuliancelecia7110
    @dalejuliancelecia7110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really mate, you should try and sell your stories to Disney so that they could make a star wars what-if series . It is something I'd definitely watch .

  • @TamSkylonobi
    @TamSkylonobi ปีที่แล้ว

    8:19 Ventress was already dead before the events of Revenge of the Sith.

  • @Kelvin-zo6hb
    @Kelvin-zo6hb 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know that this is an honest mistake but you cannot comprehend how quickly I looked at my monitor when you said "Obi-Wan turn his head to Obi-Wan"

  • @imember7375
    @imember7375 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What if palpatine entered into the world between worlds

  • @rentoshine2038
    @rentoshine2038 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another COOL STORY!!!👌👏👍....TYVM🙏🥀

  • @aaronprosser4018
    @aaronprosser4018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ventress is dead, she was killed by Dooku in dark disciple.

  • @Southsidemafia350
    @Southsidemafia350 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obiwan turned his head to obi wan nute gunray: there’s 2 of them now

  • @darthbane3937
    @darthbane3937 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Palps wouldn't have 20 thousand. If you read the Tenebrous Way, Tenebrous was hoping the chosen one would have at least 15 thousand midi-chlorians though probably 20 or more.

  • @Krossar_Meepen
    @Krossar_Meepen ปีที่แล้ว

    Five time asking 😅
    (If you dont want to do it then its just to reply and I will stop asking😊)
    ”What if Palpatine loved Darth Maul as a son”
    But take it more with the poem ”you’ll only miss it when its gone” So Palpatine didn’t want to admit/acted like he cared for Maul. Only when Maul ”died” Palpatine realised he loved Maul like a son.
    I thought about that and I think it would be interesting.
    So after Obiwan ”kills” Maul, Palpatine gets so angry (do what your want with that info)
    Palpatine then starts to get close to Anakin and tries to replace Maul, but then when Palpatine hears of Mauls return he quickly try to offer Maul his place as an apprentice back.
    I actually thinks this would be interesting. 👀

  • @saveritas731
    @saveritas731 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Qui-Gon became a Sith Lord?
    (This video was a great What If.)

  • @miroatanasov
    @miroatanasov ปีที่แล้ว +22

    What if Anakin was the Sith’ari(Sith Chosen One destined to destroy the Jedi,destory the Sith and remake them stronger) instead of being the Chosen One(destined to destroy the Sith and bring balance of the force)?

    • @marsisflat
      @marsisflat ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What if he was both

    • @miroatanasov
      @miroatanasov ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@marsisflat Then he would have to choose between the two prophecies or he could fulfill both prophecies by destroying the Jedi and Sith and remaking both Orders more powerful than before and leading both Orders thus bringing and keeping balance to the force.

  • @frachris87
    @frachris87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What if Mace Windu became Darth Vader?

  • @Menma_Uchiha7283
    @Menma_Uchiha7283 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like they would have sent windu instead of fisto or both of them knowing how powerful grevious was

  • @rodgerscott8808
    @rodgerscott8808 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if Anakin had learned the fold space ability? Would having that kind of power kept him with the Jedi or cause him to fall to the dark side faster?

  • @joshtheskywalker
    @joshtheskywalker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Isn't Fisto the other person aside from Obi Wan tailor made to beat Grievous?

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "What if" Meetra Surik didn't go to find Revan after defeating the Sith Triumvirate?

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "What if" Sidious, Vader, and Luke all died on the Second Death Star?

  • @diamondman307_
    @diamondman307_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayo Ventress was dead already at this point

  • @michaelroy7754
    @michaelroy7754 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thobk palpatine might've volunteered to be tested first. It would lessen suspicions... "why would the dark lord willingly agree?"

  • @steve6135
    @steve6135 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idea: What if Bale Organa was actually an imperial agent put in place by Palpatine should he be found out and need to flee.

  • @lowesgameing2003
    @lowesgameing2003 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why would Ventress help sidious after he tries to have her killed?

    • @gabe2646
      @gabe2646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That and I’m pretty sure she’s dead by this point

    • @lowesgameing2003
      @lowesgameing2003 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gabe2646 no by this point she's in a romantic relationship with Jedi master Quinlin Voss

    • @gabe2646
      @gabe2646 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lowesgameing2003 she’d be dead as she was killed by dooku prior to the events of the battle of coruscant

  • @soularprimestudios5930
    @soularprimestudios5930 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Savage broke out of his trance when Assaj told him to kill Feral?

  • @thylax8405
    @thylax8405 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video idea, what is Jango Fett killed Obi Wan on kamino and mace Windu on geonosis

  • @mphoramathe1801
    @mphoramathe1801 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A. What's your beef with Kit Fisto, this is not the first time you've killed him off in fights he should have won?
    B. Ventress was done with the Sith at that point (after the night sisters were wiped out by Dooku) and was finding balance.
    C.What if post republic Obi-wan accessed the world between worlds?

  • @yodadunkinrealgood
    @yodadunkinrealgood ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video

  • @marc-kevinsiegfried6613
    @marc-kevinsiegfried6613 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t like how some of the Jedi’s were killed off so easily… like the fight with palpatine could have been longer 😩

  • @NerfMason
    @NerfMason ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Bael Organs was a Sith Lord

  • @YayoHernandez-b1j
    @YayoHernandez-b1j ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantasy folklore did you get my comments on the community? Or which version of Aniken is the strongest, most powerful ever of all time in history if he reached his full potential or if he stayed on because don’t give me wrong him staying on the mortis is awesome but the Jedi all dying but it’s OK is your what if man? Also, what if Anakin Skywalker went to the wellspring of life with Yoda would he come much more stronger and powerful than if he reached his full potential, or went to mortis, because the wellspring of life is the birthplace of the midi-chlorians basically the force itself but look, I’ll leave it to you fantasy folklore 🤝👍🤙

  • @getBhavinShah
    @getBhavinShah ปีที่แล้ว

    1:06 what do you mean kit fists is easily strong enough to beat general grevious

  • @nandorhomolya
    @nandorhomolya ปีที่แล้ว

    Imo this is your best ehat if ever. I really like how ots thought out. That Palpatine cant just execute order 66. A really liked this political, manipulating in the story. One of Sidiusee main traits if manipulating events and people. Go into more politics in what if scenarios because you cant build on lightsaber duels like the films do. Keep it up and I hope you think about these ideas.

  • @oliivey2302
    @oliivey2302 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video what if kiardi Mundi survived order 66 would he train someone?

  • @pieterboshoff7582
    @pieterboshoff7582 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ventress wanted nothing to do with the war as she became a boumty hunter and distanced herself from the CIS and the sith

  • @timrobinson513
    @timrobinson513 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if just lie had been trained from birth

  • @bossatrino
    @bossatrino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fisto would fucking roll Grievous

  • @laverniustucker8198
    @laverniustucker8198 ปีที่แล้ว

    What If Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin Solo were the focus of the Sequel Trilogy?

  • @owenscott8116
    @owenscott8116 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What if super hero existed in star wars prequels

  • @eventuel4987
    @eventuel4987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if Palpatine went on Mustafar for Padme and the kids rather than Anakin?

  • @Mimic_Lord
    @Mimic_Lord ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Day 18: What if General Grievous was secretly a Republic spy?

  • @CommanderSasha
    @CommanderSasha ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if darth maul joined count dooku and they kill darth sidious

  • @Sean-hn1vt
    @Sean-hn1vt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have never had one of my ideas made so can you do this one please. What if Qi'ra was never kidnapped from and therefore never joined Crimson dawn.

  • @Julian-cq6pm
    @Julian-cq6pm ปีที่แล้ว

    what if Dooku stayed on in the Jedi Order and became Grand Master?

  • @TheForcesWrath
    @TheForcesWrath ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Chirrut the blind from Rouge One was a Jedi

  • @wesleyprice2823
    @wesleyprice2823 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like a what if on the idea if Anakin had a clone in the sequel trilogy

  • @Alexrocks2024
    @Alexrocks2024 ปีที่แล้ว

    It backfired in the Sith

  • @notapplicable1296
    @notapplicable1296 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pause a few moments in. No way that's enough for crazy pants Anakin, if Yoda allowed Anakin to also look in the forbidden section under Obi-wan's guidance for a possible way to save Padme only then would he relax and be ok with the Jedi

  • @Omega_Comics
    @Omega_Comics ปีที่แล้ว

    Fisto would win the duel with Grievous. He was clearly the better fighter when they clashed in the Clone Wars series

  • @danwicks-zf8tu
    @danwicks-zf8tu ปีที่แล้ว

    What if the grand inquisitor told the Jedi about palpatine and planned for order 66

  • @XenoTronusWeePoo850
    @XenoTronusWeePoo850 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think Ventress would've gotten involved with anything and I think Fisto would've won against Grievous

  • @wesleyprice2823
    @wesleyprice2823 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand how much skill fisto has but grievous is a coward and would flee on a chance of death

  • @laverniustucker8198
    @laverniustucker8198 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did you mean by banner designs and such?

  • @ur_boi_reckless6991
    @ur_boi_reckless6991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude you got it all wrong.Grevious is baby; he's easy picking. Ain't no way any of the Jedi would have struggled against him. He's a clanker with a couple organs and some lightsabers for heavens sake.

  • @jameslightfoot1872
    @jameslightfoot1872 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Padme was Force-sensitive, and Anakin tried to train her himself?

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if Anakin was an Jedi bounty hunter

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 ปีที่แล้ว

    "What if" Hera was Force-Sensitive?

  • @augustjakobsen3274
    @augustjakobsen3274 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What if Anakin Skywalker turned to the dark side during a meditation in his room this would take place during the Clone wars

  • @smoothisfast6644
    @smoothisfast6644 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tbh, blood testing would solve a lot of the SW problems.

  • @Truly_Sithari
    @Truly_Sithari ปีที่แล้ว

    Ventress wouldn’t be there to kill padme as she would have died a long time by then to dooku

  • @herofan223
    @herofan223 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if mace windu was the Sith Lord?

  • @milespierre66
    @milespierre66 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great story but I'm lowkey rly pissed you killed off my favorite character, Kit Fisto. Especially cuz he did beat him in the Clone Wars!! It woulda been fine if it was Ki-Adi-Mundi who died to Grievous

  • @parisbasonidis1620
    @parisbasonidis1620 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if mace windy was on utapao instead of odiwan

  • @ArmaniGaming445
    @ArmaniGaming445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi again

    • @FantasyFolklore
      @FantasyFolklore  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello there

    • @ArmaniGaming445
      @ArmaniGaming445 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FantasyFolklore I just did another reaction to your channel

  • @Aladdindoescubes
    @Aladdindoescubes ปีที่แล้ว

    fisto ain't losing to grevious, also no way you actually put obi wan and yoda to fight grevious, both of them can beat him on a 1v1, pretty sure obi wan wouldn't get damaged

  • @scarceneptune9508
    @scarceneptune9508 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 on 1 kit fisto would kill Grievous

  • @mrgangrdon6592
    @mrgangrdon6592 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Starwars way darker than dc in alot of aspects

  • @yellowcaballerofan110
    @yellowcaballerofan110 ปีที่แล้ว

    Um…Ventress would be dead at this point

  • @AntiSerpent
    @AntiSerpent ปีที่แล้ว

    HAI!

  • @yanaiarad9399
    @yanaiarad9399 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if ventress killed griveos on dathomir

  • @SWGuyHere
    @SWGuyHere ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Yoda was the Chosen One?

  • @JAD9377
    @JAD9377 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if jedi survivor cal used the world between worlds because he had a balance between light and dark and son was dark daughter was light father was the balance makes sense I don’t know if I will reach 10 likes but if I do I will type a trailer for my version of what if jedi survivor Cal used the world between worlds

  • @jonpetit7319
    @jonpetit7319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Empire vs Avengers

  • @VampireQueen696
    @VampireQueen696 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Death of master fisto" nope i tuned out man thats just wrong entirely. Fisto and obi wan are the only 2 who can best Grievous this whole thing is botched