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OVERVIEW
Social philosopher Daniel Schmachtenberger explains why the capacity to hold the relationships between many perspectives at once can inform our choice-making and help us navigate reality.
Transperspectival thinking is useful in the abstract-like Schmachtenberger's example of two tribes of dimensional beings-as well as in the real world.
Try to recall this lesson on transperspectival thinking during your next political debate or discussion and see how it may change your reactions and the way you navigate political realities.
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DANIEL SCHMACHTENBERGER
Daniel Schmachtenberger is a social philosopher whose central focus is civilization design: Developing new capacities for sense-making and choice-making, individually and collectively, to support conscious sustainable evolution. He shares on these topics at civilizationemerging.com.
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I’m coming back to this video almost a year after I first saw it, and recognize it’s more relevant than ever.
This deserves so much more views than it has right now
I argue, how do we know it hasn't? There are many posts that have views disappear.
Fantastic! Clear, concise, well defined scope. Daniel did a wonderful job explaining this inherently complex and fraught topic in an incredibly deft way.
A kind of idea he is explaining with such a concise and clear manner is just mind boggling to me! Such an inspiration you are Daniel!
My TLDR summary: You can take a picture of a building from the east, from the west, from up top etc and compose them into a 3d picture. Life is like this, there is no one perspective. Many times to navigate through a problem, you need to see it through many different perspectives and view it as a complex tradeoff across multiple dimensions. He put it really eloquently and made an analogy to viewing a cylinder in 2D. Some people think it's a circle, some people think it's a rectangle, both perspectives are correct but seem to be mutually exclusive. Sometimes you are viewing a problem from the wrong dimension, IE 2d instead of 3d. Seemingly like loving someone unconditionally, but also wanting them to grow. If you view them as a changing person on growth path, you can love them unconditionally, but still want them to grow and change and become self actualized.
.. it's a 7 minute clip. But I suppose in the age of Ticktock it may be too long.
toward the end he resolves a debate on unconditional love that my partner and I have been stuck on for years. I can now embrace the idea, as I’ve always wanted to. Goddamit Danny, that’s was so beautiful and helpful
Interesting perspective - or rather. Of critical importance is how we stitch the various perspectives coherently. Its not just addition of all. Excellent thinker.
It's a meta-perspective.
@@epictetus9221 you might find it interesting as well
@@oliver_siegel I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
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So fascinating the power of the dialectic. Transperspectivism. It’s hopeful thinking that partial truths can be used to construct the larger puzzle through that synthesis; and that rigorous empathy.
Even better, is intersubjectivity
Brilliant as always Daniel. Many thanks. Your mind is beautiful!
In one perspective, this body is actually a supercolony made up of highly specialized, individual living organisms. In another perspective, this body is one single cell in an enormous, amorphous superentity called human kind, that is trying to survive itself long enough to spread itself into space. And right in the middle sits "I" and think I'm all alone. What a circus!
Don't watch it all go by from the lion's cage.
The house of mirrors isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Time to leave the big tent with the three-ring circus.
The carnival of clowns has just fired my ass.
In another, all creatures with live births are one body, connected together bellybutton to bellybutton like an umbilical thread stitching together eternity.
@@stratosphere2323 You should look up Ingersoll & McGill's 'Cellular Landscape Cross-Section Through A Eukaryotic Cell'. When we gaze inside, like out at the cosmos, we find vastly more complexity than we had begun to imagine.
This video is superb. Amazing job in putting things in a perspective that we can all understand.
Great metaphor. Problems are in lower dimensions (2D) and partial and to solve it, it has to be viewed in a higher dimensions (3D).
This video should have been (still can be, might currently be acting as) a piece of the bridge that closes that chasm between the parties in the culture wars.
YES!! I love the view from here.
A nice new telling of the blind men and the elephant.
Excellent video. Thank you.
I really feel like I learned something. His ability to articulate very complicated concepts was both educational and quite amazing actually. A very smart individual adding to Mutual intelligence and understanding of the world around us
We seem to have a higher propensity to universalize rather than to contextualize. Universalization seems to be deeply rooted in the Western intellectual tradition.
TransPerspectival 🙏
'Navigation'
😎
I love the way you think
Best vid on the interwebs bruv
Awesome! Thanks.
so if I understand correctly, given that I perceive you as 2d picture on my screen, you exist simultaneaslouly on an alternate 3d youtube page being perceived by 2d cylinders who have different perspective of reality than mine, which can only lead to me to conclude that epstein didn't kill himself
Wow! How did you see such fact? Are you Jesus?
Great guest clear speaking interesting topic ty big think
Hot d**n! This has me so turned on that I hardly know what to do with myself! There is so much in it that I feel it deserves being listened to it again...both at a reduced speed and on multiple occasions.
Watching this guy on a podcast (especially the Lex Fridman podcast with him) is like reading a wikipedia page where every word is a blue link. Not in a bad way though, he's just very artiuclate and succint. I found it so interesting and given the ability to pause and look up different words was enlightening.
The title here demonstrates and perpetuates the exact blindness to objectivity that I'm concerned about. To characterize reality as perspective is to expose a complete failure to grasp the concept of reality. "Perspective" is exactly what "reality" precisely does NOT mean. The whole point of the word "reality" is to reference that which is NOT perspective. Those with no grasp of objectivity as a concept will not see their blindness, so they hear and use the word "reality" synonymously with perspective, because their own subjectivity is all they can conceive. The blindness is most evident when they say daft things like "my reality" which just isn't how reality works. To deny their own subjective fallibility, they merely use the word to say the exact opposite of what it means, rendering the word useless. In that case every unreality is a reality to them, which is convenient for wrong people who don't want the discomfort of growth. They freely use the word "reality" but its literal meaning has never actually occurred to them, so this argument that "Reality is all about perspective" seems valid to them. Anyone who has ever been hit in the back by something they didn't see coming should obviously know that reality is not the same as perspective, but somehow this obvious distinction just never computes for a lot of people, who nonetheless believe they have it figured out, and this is why humanity can't have nice things. The semantic failure to distinguish objective reality from subjective perspective is basically the entire problem with all delusion. I normally love everything from Daniel, but this conflagration is just not helpful and only encourages science denial.
I think it's very possible our observable universe is a shadow of higher dimensions we can never access. The quantum world seems to be our first glimpse at that.
It would be very surprising indeed if that wasn't the case.
@@epictetus9221 you might like it, as well
@@oliver_siegel I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Like what exactly?
@@epictetus9221 dammit seems like my comment got deleted...
I was linking my recent video about "subjektive perspectives in an objective reality" where i make the connection between humans and quantum objects... I won't post the link again, but check my channel
@@oliver_siegel Oh, I see. Yeah it seems no links allowed 🙄 Thanks anyway, I'll check it out
I think there was an Indian parable written about some blind men and an elephant that depicts this quite nicely...
People at the top of Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs be like. But seriously: this is a wise approach to interpersonal communication
Not many people reach the top. I'd argue almost everyone. Most move more thought vectors of knowledge. See Chickening's vectors.
When we try to define things, we loose hold of reality.
Definations are fragment of our imagination, it always exclude something that's why differs according to perception.
Yes people seek to label everyhing, but too much and get lost quickly by trying to decode the seemingly relevant contradictions.
We must teach/learn to think more holistic in terms of systems as much as possible to start to make sense.
@@aerobique you might like it, as well
Truth is Truth, no matter how you see it...
I think you make no sense,
I understand what are you saying but ..... Wait a minute, are you from 2D world?
there is often little truth in subjective reality though. I think you missed the point of the video...
The question is more what is truth? it looks like its constantly changing...
@@boogieboss that's the point...truth is unchanging, undeniable...
@@Trafce 10D Dex, 10D
Smart man
WOW😮
Can u change the received sun magnetic resonance received on Earth, so everyone becomes entrained and learns trans-perspective? Need some way to get everyone on the "same page"
Reduction of perspective to only one view or a binary view is too simplistic.
Therefore, I argue that lived experience as truth is too reductive to a singular or binary to actually provide an encompassing perspective.
How can one actual understand that which they profess to know implicitly, if they only see one view and present it as truth?
"Simple" he says. LOL I absolutely love what he is saying, but it is definitely not simple.
Its all about perspective.
It is simple. Just not easy...
InTransFormation 🙏
DoBeDoBeDo . . . 🙏
that didn't take long now did it?
They say time is a flat circle...
And I thought Jordan Peterson was sometimes hard to follow..
BadBoyD TV *No-BS Empowerment Channel* that says more about you than either of these two men.
How do 2D creatures on orthogonal planes communicate?
By pressing numb pad 5 in Blender 😄
At the intersection of the planes .... or they do DMT
They shout very loudly at each other... just like the politically left and right!
something like morse code through movement perhaps
Takes 6 minutes of roundabout logic to get there, but when he does - BOOM! The penny drops...
Jokes on you we don't have pennies in Canada anymore.
I almost wrote the same
I see that you grok.
Reality is independent of perspective. Perspective is literally the separation of your inner self from reality. The entire premise here is delusional and wrong.
The irony of your statement is amusing.
All we have to go on is our perceptions and perspectives. We cannot see reality, except through the perception of it our minds create. To conclude the premise here is objectively wrong is....by definition, objectively wrong.
@@dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739 I object! How can we possibly perceive Reality from our limited, finite minds? It's like we are all characters in a dream, giving all kinds of meaning to everything, projecting our egos into an apparent outward, objective reality, and taking it all so seriously, all so personally, and we are totally unaware of being the One asleep, dreaming the dream. Man...I wish I could remember how to wake up. 🙃
@@dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739 I'd like to hear your thoughts, too
@@SarahDale111 I'd like to hear what you have to say, too
@@oliver_siegel What I have to say about what exactly?
Like Doublethink from George Orwell's 1984.
3rd
Reminds me of the old Sufi parable of the blind men and the elephant 🐘
Each is correct within their limited perspective but miss the big picture.
Donald Hoffman’s view that base reality is nothing like our perceptions at all is also worthy of consideration.
Decentralization and individual empowerment would be the way forward I believe. An ‘economy’ based on love and wanting everyone to thrive.
What about a meta-perspective? If dealing with emergent properties we may need to go meta, not just trans. ie include and transcend.
tl;dr: American society vs. (continental!) European societies. 🤪
in before flat earthers use this talk to say "look this guy is talking about flat earth its all about perspective!" ....
Also IMHO this guy is spewing word salad, after word salad...Without any substance but meh what do I know?
The dress is yanni
AI
cubism
Think blind men and elephant.
1st
Guess I am just too darn stupid to make much sense out of this. Soccer, circle, square, sphere, cube, cylinder, building, video, political left, political right...did he touch on gender as well? Doesn't matter I'm not watching it again.
You're not stupid, you're just not listening closely enough.