Thanks JayZ! Couple of additional notes: With Ashrah wakeup DF3 ex usually crashes their jump in after nut punch so if johnny's like to jp2 and block to OS they risk to eat full combo. Vs Faster Reversalr that you can break on safe jump you can use jump 2 into flash parry and punish even shadow kick with full combo.
@@jayzbottomlip hmm do you OS vs fast reversals like Johnny? If you jump with punch shadow kick hits you and if you jump empty to block later, it's not an OS anymore, you are just reading and baiting right?
@@olcadan_13 the whole point of a safe jump is to get your opponent to wake-up special move…. Not to be aggressive where they won’t. Again beats the purpose of a safe jump
@@jayzbottomlip wouldnt the point be to safely loop offense after a knockdown, rather than just a bait tool? especially if they know its a safejump theres no way they mash armor more than like once max
When you do Mileena safe jump with J2 into D4 it is safe for most of characters - timing is tricky sometimes though. Johnny will get hit by J2 and you will low profile shadow kick in time with d4. Shao will jump over you, so he will move out from the corner, but you are safe anyway.
"Johnny cage has the only 8 frame reversal/wake up armor" 2 seconds later plays as johnny and has ashra do her reversal which is exactly 8 frames as well. ;O That actually surprised me as well.
@ ashrah is tricky to understand because it’s reading the animation of the start up of her wake-up but her wakeup actually takes a little bit more to hit you but the ironic part about it is… it has about 3 hits of armor so it doesn’t matter. What I like to do against ashrah wakeup is to use oki that gives me enough to break her armor or dash in then jump back to bait her wakeup (using oki frames) and punish her
@ no I’m saying animation and start up apply different. When you look at a move list 1 might be 7 frames but 11 is like 18 frames. It’s not that 11 comes out at 17 frames it’s counting the second hit after the first hit so with ashrah her wakeup might say 8 frames but by the time she actually hit you it is not 8 frames because she’s one of the easiest characters to get oki off Johnny having a 8 frames reversal that actually comes out at that frame is scary. Similar to hit scan projectile type characters in deadlock, overwatch, marvel etc hope I answered question. Happy new years
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Thanks JayZ!
Couple of additional notes:
With Ashrah wakeup DF3 ex usually crashes their jump in after nut punch so if johnny's like to jp2 and block to OS they risk to eat full combo.
Vs Faster Reversalr that you can break on safe jump you can use jump 2 into flash parry and punish even shadow kick with full combo.
But why jump in to lose your turn or bait wake up when you have a safe jump which is your option select ?
@@jayzbottomlip hmm do you OS vs fast reversals like Johnny?
If you jump with punch shadow kick hits you and if you jump empty to block later, it's not an OS anymore, you are just reading and baiting right?
especially deady if you got kano knives on the way down
Beats the purpose of safe jump. But sounds cool
@@jayzbottomlip probably better in instances where you dont have a real safejump, kano would cover upblock and break armor
@@olcadan_13 the whole point of a safe jump is to get your opponent to wake-up special move…. Not to be aggressive where they won’t. Again beats the purpose of a safe jump
@@jayzbottomlip wouldnt the point be to safely loop offense after a knockdown, rather than just a bait tool? especially if they know its a safejump theres no way they mash armor more than like once max
When you do Mileena safe jump with J2 into D4 it is safe for most of characters - timing is tricky sometimes though. Johnny will get hit by J2 and you will low profile shadow kick in time with d4. Shao will jump over you, so he will move out from the corner, but you are safe anyway.
you can i guess
Putting this in my mental notes
This is super useful i wonder if Reptile has something like this because maybe i can get my invisibility set ups to work better 🤔
im pretty sure he does
What is OS
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So can you hit confirm after the save jump wen opponent tries to wake up anti air ???😢
yesss
Will you make a vid on how to adapt
Great video :)
Glad you enjoyed it
"Johnny cage has the only 8 frame reversal/wake up armor"
2 seconds later plays as johnny and has ashra do her reversal which is exactly 8 frames as well. ;O
That actually surprised me as well.
Ashrah doesn’t have a 8 frame armor
@jayzbottomlip every time it was done in the video it showed 8 frames
@ ashrah is tricky to understand because it’s reading the animation of the start up of her wake-up but her wakeup actually takes a little bit more to hit you but the ironic part about it is… it has about 3 hits of armor so it doesn’t matter. What I like to do against ashrah wakeup is to use oki that gives me enough to break her armor or dash in then jump back to bait her wakeup (using oki frames) and punish her
@@jayzbottomlip ur saying the frame data is wrong on the video?
@ no I’m saying animation and start up apply different. When you look at a move list 1 might be 7 frames but 11 is like 18 frames. It’s not that 11 comes out at 17 frames it’s counting the second hit after the first hit so with ashrah her wakeup might say 8 frames but by the time she actually hit you it is not 8 frames because she’s one of the easiest characters to get oki off Johnny having a 8 frames reversal that actually comes out at that frame is scary. Similar to hit scan projectile type characters in deadlock, overwatch, marvel etc hope I answered question. Happy new years
Now I wanna see what your online record looks like.
Oh my sweat account I’m 77-2 season 1 season 2 50-4 season 3 89-6 season 4 didn’t play as much and starter streaming and messing around 36-13. You don’t have to worry about online record should pay attention to tournaments top 8s and how well I ply overall but eh whatever You find important shit stick with it
Can I get a link to the discord? I wanna level up my gameplay ( I’m ass lol)
discord.gg/jXxRtJK3
Do you think a certain controller is needed?
No I don’t think so
Discord link?
discord.gg/CayzqAyw i got you
They can’t upblock the safe jump either. 😂