There are so many comments saying almost the same - "...your teaching has changed my whole approach to piano studying and playing...(or similar)"- I can only add that I can't believe how fast and effectively I managed to stretch the hands (¡ while hitting the correct keys !) and thus be able to enjoy this beatiful love song....feels like advancing 3 years in 3 months !
2 ปีที่แล้ว +2
This makes me so happy to read, thank you very much and thanks for watching!
Danae, this lesson, in particular, revolutionized my entire approach to practicing. I've integrated your practicing methods in Beethoven's sonatas, bach preludes, and fugues. Taking small bites a measure at a time, stopping on the first note of the next group then repeating the last note for the next bit. Being sure to slightly raise my wrist at the end to release all tension. I bought your technique-building exercise but I could not figure out the fingering for the trill exercise when transposing it to the left hand. I have a feeling that is one of the most valuable in the set for technique building. Thank you.
2 ปีที่แล้ว +2
Thank you so much and I am so glad that you are finding the exercises helpful. The fingering of the trill exercise for the left hand is basically identical to the right hand when you mirror the position the fingers of the right hand in your left hand. So, when you start on E with the thumb of your left hand and then trill with E flat, D, D flat and C, you are using the exact same fingerings as in the right hand. Hope this helps! And thanks again for watching! :)
Αγαπητή Δανάη, Εύχομαι να διαβάζεις και να κατανοείς την ελληνική γλώσσα! Πρόσφατα ανακάλυψα το κανάλι σου και τα βίντεο σου αποτελούν πηγή έμπνευσης και μόρφωσης για μένα και οι ασκήσεις που προτείνεις κάθε φορά, απίστευτα επιμορφωτικές! Είχα υπάρξει μαθητής πιάνου στα νιάτα μου και προσφάτως ξεκίνησα δειλά-δειλά πάλι μαθήματα πιάνου μιας και αποτελεί μεγάλη μου αγάπη το όργανο αυτό! Εύχομαι κάθε επιτυχία στην επαγγελματική σου σταδιοδρομία και ίσως, μιας και παίζεις συχνά στην Ελλάδα, να έχω την τιμή να σε ακούσω και απο κοντά!
Hi Daphne ! All your tips are clear and perfectly understandable within your tutorial. You are surely an excellent piano teacher. I have hesitated for many years to begin to work this Etude given I'm not sure having the technical level required. Nevertheless I will try thanks to your excellent advices. Many Thanks
2 ปีที่แล้ว +1
So glad to hear that, thanks so much for watching and all the best with this Etude!
Ok i didn't try ur technique yet ( didn't touch the piece yet) but i gotta say wow u give so much informations on how to practice ,i never seen anyone does this ! Thank u so much
Thank you! I am just starting this piece, so will need to try all these great techniques right away. This should be interesting! I hope I will persevere until I can do it justice!
Another great video. This was the first Chopin study I “learned” to play. Still have difficulty with inaccuracy in the jumps, so will try your tips. I also have trouble seamlessly switching the melody to the inner line in a couple sections too, and also trying to make the ending section sound light and effortless. Still a work in progress!
2 ปีที่แล้ว
Hope the exercises help, have fun with the study! 💪🏻 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Thank you, Danae! How would you recommend to build the practice day by day? Would you, for example, take the first exercise and play the entire study till the end, then the second, etc. - or would you take the first part of the study and make all the exercises, then proceed with the second part of the study? I’m asking because it’s hard to practice all your great suggestions for all the study in a single day. So what day-by-day tactic would you recommend?
2 ปีที่แล้ว +2
I would suggest to go through a part of the study with the exercises that I mentioned. But you don’t need to do every single one of the exercises, you can switch it up a bit. For example, you can do half bar sections on one day and full bat sections on the other day. Hope this helped! 🤗
Thank you very much for these valuable tips for practicing the Etudes! I believe I can practice more effectively now and play the Etude beautifully. I wish you were closer to me so you could be my teacher?
Danae, thank you so much for this very informative tutorial. You and your sister Kaelin are such a joyful delight to watch! This video ⁸gives me much more incentive to keep working on this piece. I have trouble with the fingerings for some of the more diificult phrases and leaps. Not sure sometimes between using fingers 3 & 4 and between using fingers 4 & 5 on the right hand. I'm waiting to see which is more natural, but it's still a little awkward. I'm trying my best to follow Arthur Friedheim's fingering. Your sister makes it look so easy. Very nice Kadeli! Kudos to her! Great tutorial for sure.
A great video Danae, thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts! I will definitely have to go back and check out some of your other videos.
Wonderful steady hands Danae (and thanks to sis for playing) I love how you share your ideas for learning a piece. You encourage an old novice like me to try beyond basic playing and appreciate master composers' works. I very unmusically graphed out the notes of Chopin's opus 10.1 and stutter through it at only 40 bpm, but will be years before it's listenable. I'm going to try these methods on 25.1
2 ปีที่แล้ว +1
Thank you and keep going with the studies, that’s great! 💪🏻 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
I am getting a tense right hand thumb only (never left hand thumb) especially on that ending Ab Major arpeggio, the thumb wants to lock under the hand. When it gets real bad i can even stop playing and see the thumb stuck in a cramp. 😣 I have this problem too with other etudes like Op 25 no 12. or Op 10 n 8. Anywhere where the right hand thumb has to stretch then go under then stretch. My left hand has no such problem even when the difficulty is abou;the same in both hands (Op 25 n 12). If you know of an exercise or some mind trick i can do i would be grateful.
Interesting video - only last night I had a look at this very study and wondered how to go about it. Good to hear that you don't have to be a professional pianist to start learning it. Did not know that you had a virtuoso sister as well !!
Thanks a lot for the awesome video Danae!! Just wondering as a concert pianist who always meets new pianos, how do you adjust to the different touches of piano? Recently I practised Chopin's op 10 no 8 on a Yamaha, and performed it on a Kawai. It felt so different, the clarity of sounds was hard to produce, and I slipped multiple times. Thanks for reading this long comment, I am truly grateful for the time you spent on us TH-cam followers. I'm also a huge fan of the sister trill channel, love the in-depth conversations between you and Kiveli. Yours sincerely from Australia. ❤️❤️
2 ปีที่แล้ว +1
Playing on a different piano every time is definitely one of the difficulties of being a pianist. But it is something that you get used to over time and at some point, you know which places of the pieces you want to try out to have a pretty good idea of the piano you will play. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thank you again for your wonderful tips of Chopin Etudes! If you could add op. 25, no. 3, that would also be helpful. Many students have tension in their arms when practicing that etude as in this one as well. Even though op. 25, no. 1 and op. 25, no. 3 are vastly different in character and texture, I find that students have the same issues in both etudes because of movement and direction of the hands and arms and how to bring out the top lines. It is possible for students with smaller hands to play these etudes well and as in all of Chopin etudes, one can be very comfortable in a pattern and then certain modulations present real problems technically.
2 ปีที่แล้ว +1
I will add this to my future video list, thanks for the suggestion! Totally agree with what you said about the technical difficulties about Chopin etudes. :)
1:25 I think i m here :D Thanks for the hope and the exercises ofc... I ve already invested my first 2h on this piece and I m gonna make it to the end even if i need 500 or 1000 hours...
Hi Danae, very nice video! I had been working on this one a few months ago, I will have to dig it out again and try some of you techniques. You didn't comment on the various polyrythms, do you have any suggestions for practicing those? Also, there are bars where emphasis is moved from the first note of the beat to the second or third (I'm going by memory). Those were tricky.
2 ปีที่แล้ว
As far as the polyrhythms are concerned, in this specific case, I wouldn’t count them out, but rather just practice the feeling of each beat in the separate hands and then put them together. However, my general approach to polyrhythms in more detail is in this video I made some months ago - you can take a look in case that helps as well: th-cam.com/video/597vBvo8Tbw/w-d-xo.html When the emphasis moves, I would suggest to feel free to take some time in order to bring the emphasis out and still create a beautiful sounding phrase. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Thanks Danae for the great tutorial. It is indeed a great video. 😁😁👍🏻I was wondering in the middle part where right hand plays 6 notes but left hand plays 4 or 5 notes in a single beat for a short period of time. May I know when we practice with hands together, how should we synchronize these 2 different note beats?
2 ปีที่แล้ว
I will link two videos that I have made on this subject in the past A more general video on Polyrhythms: th-cam.com/video/597vBvo8Tbw/w-d-xo.html And the typical Chopin “garland” polyrhythms: th-cam.com/video/gaVWuP-KjkE/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Danae, how do you get the hands to finally coordinate when the note patterns seem to change every quarter bar? This and just playing some of the notes is my current dilemma. So I have to go really slow when playing both hands together. Pray for me 🙏. Thanks.
ปีที่แล้ว +1
Going slow in the beginning is key! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Hi! I have a question, how much experience as I pianist should I have before learning this?
2 ปีที่แล้ว
I would say that if you have been playing for a few years (and have played some Czerny and maybe Hanon and similar studies) and are now looking to build your technique for some “harder” repertoire, then that is the time to start with this study. ;) All the best to you and thanks for watching!
If I am an adult beginner can I try it but say practice slowly for 3 years, is that okay, is that possible or it's impossible. I love your videos, because you are willing to teach people, you are amazing God bless you
2 ปีที่แล้ว
Yes of course. You can go at your personal pace - that’s what will make you learn it in the best and most secure way!
Hi Danae, thx again for your new vid. During the 1st bars of Chopin op. 25 I noticed your body language . Respectfully I'd like to know why your legs are positioned closed to each other? Does it feel more comfortable? Have a great day and pls stay in touch with us. Kinds!
2 ปีที่แล้ว +1
It depends on what I am playing, in this case I like to feel centered and put my legs close to each other because my arms are doing big jumps. In other pieces, this might be different though. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Liebe Danae, danke für das Bemühen von dir und deiner Schwester! Wie immer sehr hilfreich! 💗 Ich hoffe dir sind die Arme danach nicht abgefallen. Falls es dir hilft, hier ist eine Künstlerin (Nahre Sol), welche mehrere Optionen vorstellt, wie sie "von oben" shots der Tastatur macht mit higher und lower budget Geräten. Sie ist als Musikerin auch total interessant. ⬇️ th-cam.com/video/xspj9uE5TQQ/w-d-xo.html
![How to Play Chopin | Etude in F minor Op.25 No.2 [Tutorial]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5kY5lAjk7EM/mqdefault.jpg)
6:35 - Exercise 1
8:03 - Exercise 2
8:34 - Exercise 3
9:47 - Exercise 4
11:06 - Exercise 5
There are so many comments saying almost the same - "...your teaching has changed my whole approach to piano studying and playing...(or similar)"- I can only add that I can't believe how fast and effectively I managed to stretch the hands (¡ while hitting the correct keys !) and thus be able to enjoy this beatiful love song....feels like advancing 3 years in 3 months !
This makes me so happy to read, thank you very much and thanks for watching!
Thanks. Some great ideas about approaches to practise including the easily forgotten 'practise slowly'. Many thanks again. 🙂
Hi to your sister - brilliantly played, thankyou.
Bedankt
Vielen herzlichen Dank! 🙏🏻
I love watching the playing from above, and how easy the stretches and jumps in both hands seem to be in the hands of the player.
Thrilling to view.😀
😊🙏🏻
Thank you thank you thank you, Danae!!! This helped me so much, unlike anything else!!!!
So glad to hear that!
I played this when I was younger and then let it lapse. Back to it now! Thank you.
Great work and public education !
🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks Danae...this sure helps!
Thank you so much !!! Much love
Danae, this lesson, in particular, revolutionized my entire approach to practicing. I've integrated your practicing methods in Beethoven's sonatas, bach preludes, and fugues. Taking small bites a measure at a time, stopping on the first note of the next group then repeating the last note for the next bit. Being sure to slightly raise my wrist at the end to release all tension. I bought your technique-building exercise but I could not figure out the fingering for the trill exercise when transposing it to the left hand. I have a feeling that is one of the most valuable in the set for technique building. Thank you.
Thank you so much and I am so glad that you are finding the exercises helpful. The fingering of the trill exercise for the left hand is basically identical to the right hand when you mirror the position the fingers of the right hand in your left hand.
So, when you start on E with the thumb of your left hand and then trill with E flat, D, D flat and C, you are using the exact same fingerings as in the right hand. Hope this helps! And thanks again for watching! :)
Αγαπητή Δανάη,
Εύχομαι να διαβάζεις και να κατανοείς την ελληνική γλώσσα!
Πρόσφατα ανακάλυψα το κανάλι σου και τα βίντεο σου αποτελούν πηγή έμπνευσης και μόρφωσης για μένα και οι ασκήσεις που προτείνεις κάθε φορά, απίστευτα επιμορφωτικές! Είχα υπάρξει μαθητής πιάνου στα νιάτα μου και προσφάτως ξεκίνησα δειλά-δειλά πάλι μαθήματα πιάνου μιας και αποτελεί μεγάλη μου αγάπη το όργανο αυτό!
Εύχομαι κάθε επιτυχία στην επαγγελματική σου σταδιοδρομία και ίσως, μιας και παίζεις συχνά στην Ελλάδα, να έχω την τιμή να σε ακούσω και απο κοντά!
Ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ! 🙏🏻
Hi Daphne ! All your tips are clear and perfectly understandable within your tutorial. You are surely an excellent piano teacher.
I have hesitated for many years to begin to work this Etude given I'm not sure having the technical level required. Nevertheless I will try thanks to your excellent advices. Many Thanks
So glad to hear that, thanks so much for watching and all the best with this Etude!
Ok i didn't try ur technique yet ( didn't touch the piece yet) but i gotta say wow u give so much informations on how to practice ,i never seen anyone does this ! Thank u so much
Very usefull video. Thanks Danae (and thanks Kiveli too!).
Thank you 🤗🙏🏻
Thank you and your sister so much !!
Thank you! I am just starting this piece, so will need to try all these great techniques right away. This should be interesting! I hope I will persevere until I can do it justice!
Thanks! I really like the fact that you always help me to keep my hands relaxed, it is so important! ❤️
That’s so important, thanks so much for watching!
Maravilhosa aula! Super!
Another great video. This was the first Chopin study I “learned” to play. Still have difficulty with inaccuracy in the jumps, so will try your tips. I also have trouble seamlessly switching the melody to the inner line in a couple sections too, and also trying to make the ending section sound light and effortless. Still a work in progress!
Hope the exercises help, have fun with the study! 💪🏻 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
The two of you are brilliant. This video was so helpful. I’ll be referring to it a lot. Thank you.
Thanks so much! Very glad you liked it :)
Thank you, Danae! How would you recommend to build the practice day by day? Would you, for example, take the first exercise and play the entire study till the end, then the second, etc. - or would you take the first part of the study and make all the exercises, then proceed with the second part of the study? I’m asking because it’s hard to practice all your great suggestions for all the study in a single day. So what day-by-day tactic would you recommend?
I would suggest to go through a part of the study with the exercises that I mentioned. But you don’t need to do every single one of the exercises, you can switch it up a bit. For example, you can do half bar sections on one day and full bat sections on the other day. Hope this helped! 🤗
@ Thank you, dear Danae! Your channel is a source of inspiration! 🌹
This is such a great tutorial thank you so much
Thank you very much for these valuable tips for practicing the Etudes! I believe I can practice more effectively now and play the Etude beautifully. I wish you were closer to me so you could be my teacher?
Danae, thank you so much for this very informative tutorial. You and your sister Kaelin are such a joyful delight to watch! This video ⁸gives me much more incentive to keep working on this piece. I have trouble with the fingerings for some of the more diificult phrases and leaps. Not sure sometimes between using fingers 3 & 4 and between using fingers 4 & 5 on the right hand. I'm waiting to see which is more natural, but it's still a little awkward. I'm trying my best to follow Arthur Friedheim's fingering. Your sister makes it look so easy. Very nice Kadeli! Kudos to her! Great tutorial for sure.
Excellent advice..and playing.
A great video Danae, thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts! I will definitely have to go back and check out some of your other videos.
Thanks so much! 🤗🙏🏻
Wonderful steady hands Danae (and thanks to sis for playing) I love how you share your ideas for learning a piece. You encourage an old novice like me to try beyond basic playing and appreciate master composers' works. I very unmusically graphed out the notes of Chopin's opus 10.1 and stutter through it at only 40 bpm, but will be years before it's listenable. I'm going to try these methods on 25.1
Thank you and keep going with the studies, that’s great! 💪🏻 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
I am getting a tense right hand thumb only (never left hand thumb) especially on that ending Ab Major arpeggio, the thumb wants to lock under the hand. When it gets real bad i can even stop playing and see the thumb stuck in a cramp. 😣
I have this problem too with other etudes like Op 25 no 12. or Op 10 n 8. Anywhere where the right hand thumb has to stretch then go under then stretch.
My left hand has no such problem even when the difficulty is abou;the same in both hands (Op 25 n 12). If you know of an exercise or some mind trick i can do i would be grateful.
what about the section where the base is in double time verses triple time?
I wish you will do the op 25 n 11 too
Interesting video - only last night I had a look at this very study and wondered how to go about it. Good to hear that you don't have to be a professional pianist to start learning it. Did not know that you had a virtuoso sister as well !!
She is amazing! 😍 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Thanks a lot for the awesome video Danae!! Just wondering as a concert pianist who always meets new pianos, how do you adjust to the different touches of piano? Recently I practised Chopin's op 10 no 8 on a Yamaha, and performed it on a Kawai. It felt so different, the clarity of sounds was hard to produce, and I slipped multiple times. Thanks for reading this long comment, I am truly grateful for the time you spent on us TH-cam followers. I'm also a huge fan of the sister trill channel, love the in-depth conversations between you and Kiveli. Yours sincerely from Australia. ❤️❤️
Playing on a different piano every time is definitely one of the difficulties of being a pianist. But it is something that you get used to over time and at some point, you know which places of the pieces you want to try out to have a pretty good idea of the piano you will play. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@ Thank you very much Danae!
Thank you again for your wonderful tips of Chopin Etudes! If you could add op. 25, no. 3, that would also be helpful. Many students have tension in their arms when practicing that etude as in this one as well. Even though op. 25, no. 1 and op. 25, no. 3 are vastly different in character and texture, I find that students have the same issues in both etudes because of movement and direction of the hands and arms and how to bring out the top lines. It is possible for students with smaller hands to play these etudes well and as in all of Chopin etudes, one can be very comfortable in a pattern and then certain modulations present real problems technically.
I will add this to my future video list, thanks for the suggestion! Totally agree with what you said about the technical difficulties about Chopin etudes. :)
@ Thank you! Looking forward to it!
Thank you so much ❤
This is wonderful! Danke!
This was great. Very helpful. I'm working on this etude now. Would you consider do a tutorial on the revolutionary etude?
Thanks for the suggestion, I will add it to my list! :)
Thank you...learned so much...
Thank you! So happy to hear that :)
1:25 I think i m here :D Thanks for the hope and the exercises ofc... I ve already invested my first 2h on this piece and I m gonna make it to the end even if i need 500 or 1000 hours...
That’s the spirit! All the best with this study 🤗
Hi Danae, very nice video! I had been working on this one a few months ago, I will have to dig it out again and try some of you techniques. You didn't comment on the various polyrythms, do you have any suggestions for practicing those? Also, there are bars where emphasis is moved from the first note of the beat to the second or third (I'm going by memory). Those were tricky.
As far as the polyrhythms are concerned, in this specific case, I wouldn’t count them out, but rather just practice the feeling of each beat in the separate hands and then put them together. However, my general approach to polyrhythms in more detail is in this video I made some months ago - you can take a look in case that helps as well: th-cam.com/video/597vBvo8Tbw/w-d-xo.html
When the emphasis moves, I would suggest to feel free to take some time in order to bring the emphasis out and still create a beautiful sounding phrase.
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Do you think that it is better to start with both hands from the beginning ?
I would start out with the exercises practicing the right hand only. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Thank you so much.
🤗🙏🏻
Thanks Danae for the great tutorial. It is indeed a great video. 😁😁👍🏻I was wondering in the middle part where right hand plays 6 notes but left hand plays 4 or 5 notes in a single beat for a short period of time. May I know when we practice with hands together, how should we synchronize these 2 different note beats?
I will link two videos that I have made on this subject in the past
A more general video on Polyrhythms: th-cam.com/video/597vBvo8Tbw/w-d-xo.html
And the typical Chopin “garland” polyrhythms: th-cam.com/video/gaVWuP-KjkE/w-d-xo.html
Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Danae, how do you get the hands to finally coordinate when the note patterns seem to change every quarter bar? This and just playing some of the notes is my current dilemma. So I have to go really slow when playing both hands together. Pray for me 🙏. Thanks.
Going slow in the beginning is key! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
"15:15"
Hi! I have a question, how much experience as I pianist should I have before learning this?
I would say that if you have been playing for a few years (and have played some Czerny and maybe Hanon and similar studies) and are now looking to build your technique for some “harder” repertoire, then that is the time to start with this study. ;) All the best to you and thanks for watching!
Muito Bom!!
If I am an adult beginner can I try it but say practice slowly for 3 years, is that okay, is that possible or it's impossible. I love your videos, because you are willing to teach people, you are amazing God bless you
Yes of course. You can go at your personal pace - that’s what will make you learn it in the best and most secure way!
Hi Danae, thx again for your new vid. During the 1st bars of Chopin op. 25 I noticed your body language . Respectfully I'd like to know why your legs are positioned closed to each other? Does it feel more comfortable? Have a great day and pls stay in touch with us. Kinds!
It depends on what I am playing, in this case I like to feel centered and put my legs close to each other because my arms are doing big jumps. In other pieces, this might be different though. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@ "Centered" is the point! I agree! Thank you! Kinds.
🙏💐
Thanks to you,I’ll win the grand prize 30,000$❤❤❤
Liebe Danae, danke für das Bemühen von dir und deiner Schwester! Wie immer sehr hilfreich! 💗 Ich hoffe dir sind die Arme danach nicht abgefallen.
Falls es dir hilft, hier ist eine Künstlerin (Nahre Sol), welche mehrere Optionen vorstellt, wie sie "von oben" shots der Tastatur macht mit higher und lower budget Geräten. Sie ist als Musikerin auch total interessant. ⬇️
th-cam.com/video/xspj9uE5TQQ/w-d-xo.html
Danke für diesen sehr hilfreichen Tipp! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Danae, maravilloso tutorial, gracias gracias gracias. listo. SUSCRITO
🙏🏻🙏🏻