One of my favorite jojo stands get fucked up by most jojo games, it is such a versatile stand in the anime with endless utility. They should totally rework both GE and GER.
From a gameplay perspective, just about anyone is gonna know more than Uzu. There's no way he plays, and I would bet if he ever does it would be with some unobtainable Mod Spec that could beat anything in its sleep.
@@EclipseGameplays I just wanted to say something about a really big problem about YBA itself, there is a device, a touch screen chromebook. Not many people play on it so i doubt Uzu would fix it anyways, but for pc users you join on mobile. You can press backspace or enter or pretty much any key on your keyboard, then you reset and pow your on pc controls, but THEN what happened to shiftlock mode? Yes shiftlock is no more for touch screen chromebook users. If your a mobile player, and your on a touchscreen chromebook player then if you say anything, touch any key on your keyboard If you reset/die once your controls are gone. Its very annoying. I just wanted to know if you see this and could try to do anything about it. I know your not a dev or anything, but you may have an impact. (I belive that adding something in settings that adds mobile controls to your screen could fix that, if any pc users tap it they could reset and the controls would disapear. I think thats one of the best posibilities. thanks for reading this :D)
18:32 I'd go with all you just said. I'd move Life Beam to Z and add a kick barrage. RTZ cutscene needs to be updated. If you use RTZ were time-related moves arent present, the opponent(s) would drastically slow down and wouldnt be able to do anything (kinda like GER's Circle move in EOH). I also have an idea for the bd you were thinking of. GER says some short dialouge before releasing a barrage of punches. Then, GER uppercuts you and follows you. GER then punches you, says that you wont reach reality and then punches you some more until ultimately lauching you away. Thats just my take tho 😋
I do agree that replacing the awakening with bd is a good thing cuz everytime i use the awakening the person runs for literally 5 mins then when the awakening ends they start attacking again, its really annoying
i like your opinion about the ger awakening should be change to beatdown bcs when i start using awakening all people just running especially mr pres when im awaken he just sitting in the room
Rtz is like.. the worst counter in game.. like i am mr main and when i encounter a ger in 1v1's and he rtz's i just wait 5 secs and Rb him as my counter
lol the "me as well" in the thumbnail as a reference to the ge vid Edit: for everyone saying no shit in the replies, this of course was expected, you guys are part of the yba community after all
I think the reason why GER has less core move destructive power is because the devs wanted it to be a side grade compared to GE. (But the YBA devs suck at balancing sooooo….)
yeah but ger can still do scorpion barrage off of a parry and summon life form out of a block break, they nerfed it in the wrongest way possible yet again (what a shocker!1!!1!1)
If it took them 6 months to make some TWAU knives blockable and haven’t nerfed D4CLT yet, I can 100% see why GER is going to get buffed, but in the wrong way
I’m a GER main and while it has bad design, I think it’s still very good. And about the thing about it having lower destructive power is because it’s throwing a bit away from strength in return for better moves (what I’m guessing). For summon life form, it forces them to block up close so then you can do pierce and 90% of the time block break them, leading for scorpion barrages and such. (I’m not saying it’s a well designed move, it’s just not completely obsolete)
I said this (I think, this video was made nearly a month ago at this point) GER is a good stand, the problem is it isn't very fun to use, and certainly not fun to fight against, hence the "Bad Game Design" philosophy
@@sysyishot7859 "not relevent to the ability" we gonna ignore how ger *FLICKED, ONLY FLICKED* a pebble and destroyed a building? (correction, it was a decent chunk of the building, still shows that ger is strong as fuck)
@@sysyishot7859 Yes, it's also plot that Diavolo killed 3 of the main characters within part 5, it's also plot that Dio in part 1 shot fucking lasers from his eyes, it's also plot that in part 3 DIO stopped time. What's your point here? Diavolo also directly stated that Gold Experience gained a power boost once Giorno used the arrow, even if Gold Experience Requiem's ability is to reverted any damage towards the user to zero, they still also gain a power boost. Now either get a point or get out.
“If ger remains with this instant combo escape, cancel all other abilities move then it would be too strong” Replace ger with d4c love train and it’s still true
anyone remember project jojo ger? favorite version mainly bc it was insanely rare and also op. Walk in time stop was really nice bc time stop meant death in that game, being able to rtz counter ppl all it did was damage and stunned, and its healing was really good, damage and stats were really solid. Also having the ability to combie stands in that game is a feature I haven't seen done again which makes the game so much better making ger with cream bc cream added basically extra damage to all damage basically made it insane. I really would love to see another jojo game with the combing stands idea again it made combat so interesting or annoying if someone made a op combination. Like when u can make soft and wet have unstoppable tracking bubbles or killer queen au have triple as many explosives also adding hamon which buffed all damage a bit doing completely insane damage like being able to kill someone 5 times over, sticky fingers abilities like the arm extender thing with the power of star platinum the world, and lastly tusk act 4 and star platinum with act 4 making all melee damage double and star platinum already insane damage being one of the top stands. I really loved the killer queen main and king crimson sub combination bc its just killer queen but with time erase so you could time erase which made it look like ur still standing there so know one knows when u use time erase then plant btd on someone then teleport back to where u where standing and everyone would have no idea what's going on lol. like all major abilities were crazy in that game. man time acceleration from mih was horrible to deal with they run at mach 5 and at the end there's a huge explosion that kills u unless ur stand is like sp and u have a lot of resistance. If you think aut was unbalanced play that game its been a long time and has many updates so its probably much different tho. But man it was fun as hell.
I guess today's "summon life form" should be replaced with a similar move, but a combo starter The only 3 ideas i got: 1. Same/cursor aiming bird that does same stun as hermit purple's vine trap, blockable 2. Ger summon a fly (insect) that follows the nearest enemy and when connects, does a hit after some sort of startup/sound and if hits does same stun as vine trap, blockable/only perfect blockable (no stun of ger user if perfect block) 3. Ger punches the ground with a bit faster startup then "summon tree", it shots some vine on the floor with similar mechanic as "flash freeze" (wa ice move) but only in length, not in height, blockable/blockable but does 2 hits, same stun as vine trap 4. Completely same as 3, but it does not stun as vine trap, only stops person and disables ANY movement abilitys, person still can block while being in vine. If blocked before the vine hit, unless he stops blocking he can move out RTZ should not unsummon stands unless there is any time related move (if time erase, then all players that was in range of te get's stand off) And yes, no moving and blocking in a cutscene Not a necesarry or even not good idea: make it so self heal heal only 30, then have cooldown 115% of healing others, after end, heals another 30, and after it have cooldown of usual self healing example: +30 (cooldown 20 seconds) + 30 (cooldown 40 seconds) if used again then again +30 (cd 20 sec) + 30 (cd 40 ces) like it have smaller cooldown but every second use it gets old big cooldown Counter fix is counter fix, frames
"...only perfect blockable (no stun of ger user if perfect block)" No stun for GER if move 2 gets parried? That just contradicts the whole point of a parry. It's not a parry unless your perfectly timed block punishes your opponent-that punishment usually being a stun.
I've been saying for a long time, i want the awakening gone from my favourite stand, to give it a kick barrage or beatdown, to make ger just, somewhat more usable than the "run away from me mode"
@@slump_vibez493 That's the reason why it's honest, it's got Awaken and Return to Zero making it fine enough, but not good enough to be amazing. Kind of like Dan in SF5, but Dan is a joke character, so I should shut
Eclipse's infinite death beatdown sounds like a legendary finish. I'd say YBA should add a concept like that, but it's got other problems to worry about.
Maybe to counter loosing some big boy moves GER could get some passives. I mean canonically it's a defensive/counter stand. Maybe a tiny bit of passive damage resistance that could take some upgrade pips. Also would love to see the Awakening floaty move be the default or maybe sprint when using the stand
a funny counter would be like a hah you thought move aka if your about to get knocked out k.o. you play a cutscene with ger saying Korega Requiem Da... and you will never reach the truth before healing you 25-50 percent hp back and only able to be used once in 1v1s and it is a passive that has a 200000 minute cooldown in 1v1's and a 20 minute cooldown in main game to stop it from being I LIVE FOREVER
Eclipse, you should play ABA just so you have perspective on how bad a game's combat can be, because I can assure you that Anime Battle arena is about twice as worse to play than AUT's current state. There are jojo characters in ABA don't worry
@@bowldawg4394 th-cam.com/video/2yfWnF7AvWU/w-d-xo.html It's at like at the 1 hour 30 minute mark and pretty old so opinions might change and for my knowledge the only time he played ABA on stream.
Ger should become a hard to get stand like TWOH, have a long quest to become "worthy" Edit: aswell as when becoming way harder to get it would also become way stronger.
as a ger main i can 100% agree with everything now if summon life form had the same tracking as sha then it will be useful and for anyone that is going to say iT wIlL bE tO oP let me say this you can still block it it wont be that op if u can block it
@@EclipseGameplays ah true but if they was to do that like 2% of the players might just find a way to cheese someone with it I don't know how but when it comes to a lot of people with more then 7 brain cells they might find away
the fact that also applies to c-moon counter is also bs, the counter is almost unusable imo, how come epitaph has no start up but c-moon and ger has? doesn't make any sense at all
I fought a Ger ditto yesterday, and the first round went on for so long (Tree, heal, Tree, heal) We both agreed on not using heal on the second round. The problem Ger has is that it is a jack of all trades but not the best at anything, its not really a projectile stand and it lacks the destruction power of a close ranged melee stand. Forcing its user to play as campy as they can be making matches turn into 30 minute sludge fests.
Ger's RTZ should put people where they were like 5-10 seconds ago. When the opponent is going back they are completely vulnerable. This would also reset time stop and time erase. To balance this as well the opponent will get the heath that they had 5-10 seconds ago
@TheEmeraldSploosh I mean to be fat that would be how it would happen canonically. And it acts as a good balance so you can’t just punish someone for comboing you
A ger buff: Basically make gers counter into an attacking move so if the counter connects, you do a short attack animation doing a decent amount of dmg.
I've had this idea for a while but now i get to actually suggest it. My idea for fixing RTZ is to make it a ultimate like BTD. You do a short animation and whoever is near you gets affected just like BTD, and if noone is near you it doesn't activate. You go back 5-10 seconds, and whatever damage you took will be reverted, and anyone who was in the cutscene (including you) will get 25% cooldown decrease on whatever skill they have on cooldown (since your returning everything to what it was 10 sec ago). This would balance it out, not too op, but very useful. Current RTZ is stupid since you get rewarded for getting timestopped or combo'd which makes 0 sense. This would be helpful for when you just got beatdowned or time stopped, and it wouldn't punish the player who landed it.
rtz is fine the way it is, it has a decent cooldown, cancels all time and dimension hop and gives immunity, the move is fine, its the lifebeam and dmg output that is the problem
I would like to ask if you could reconsider your thoughts on KCR, as I personally think most of its aspects are really cheese. For starters, epitaph is a free mini beatdown that does 20% of your health (depending on build) with 0 startup or endlag for missing it. Time erase is a free attack or guardbreak (like jaw breaker). Sythe has very few optinos to avoid and for most people either forces a limb removal (basically a life lost if you lose a leg or arm) or a block break (free massive damage combo).the box is free pose time in a 1v1 and has no counterplay, and lastly the destructive power means hamon kcr can literatly barrage to win and not use any other moves and still come out on top (a 2.3 barrage does like 100 damage)
I don’t wanna be that guy but imma be that guy. Epitaph can be baited (it’s not too hard but sometimes doesn’t work so). Time erase can be countered timeskipped out of, or your move can be canceled by mashing. A lot of the time just dashing can avoid scythe if they aim the wrong way and you can use counters, timeskips, time erase, etc to avoid it. Box is definitely cheese with the pose stuff but there is counterplay to it, timeskips can get you out (but you are still blind and slow) and RTZ will fully disable it. And the hamon barrage first depends on the enemy stand but yea that is also cheese.
Ok here. New ger rework moveset. 1 is rtz doesn't give i frames if cancelled. 2 ger cannot move in ts but but can rtz it. Life beam only summons scorpions if it hit the opponent. Tree will be a skill that lifts the opponent up if you hold it and lifts you up if You you simply press it. Nullification zero will be s little beatdown counter. The bd will do roughly 60 damage. Summon life form bird will be replaced with a triple kick move that combo extends. There. Its balanced. Also awakening only gives you more vitality and regen and doesn't buff damage. The barage is 1.7 per hit heavy punch 20 damage and m1s 9.8.
1.6 barrage. Take it or leave it, because a 1.5 barrage with hamon already goes up to as much as 1.8 which is a lot, and by my calculations, 1.7 hamon buffed will be roughly around 2.2 and 2 damage per a punch, and remember KCR? The stand that was only good for high destructive power? Yeah, that thing again but it now has a combo extender that deals great damage and can chain into more m1's. And overall, the combo extender idea is bad with high destructive power. I can even calculate, if 1 M1 is a 9.8 then the combo of 2 M1's plus extender plus 2 m1's will deal around 39.2+kicks, and not even mentioning hamon buffed. And a 60 damage counter? Now THAT'S one hell of a lot of damage. Hamonic buffed it'll be like, 80? Or around that. And, simply how BUSTED would GER be if it was to spawn scorpions on a hit. 22 damage+11.2(or what was it)x4=66.8, and considering the fact it has kick you might as well just die, because if the new beam has enough stun on the user to not allow him to move but allow opponent to block, it will never work since it'll always be blocked. Enough stun on opponent so it deals and puts you into netural state? 66.8 free damage, move overpowered because cannot counter, enough stun on opponent but not user? Even more overpowered, netural state? Move uncountable due to M1's, zoom punch and kicks having enough stun to land scorpions.
@@Dansaki24 bruh, what are you talking about? They do not, and can't, own the idea of having ur awakening available at low hp, pretty sure someone has already did it before.
@@Dansaki24 Aut copyrighting YBA would be hilariously hypocrit (if that was even possible to copyright moves in a combat game) since they use a crap ton of copyrighted music.
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... bad?! LOL! My friend stopped me from getting GER when I had GE and I regret that, GER is powerful In utility. They need to buff base dmg and make it so summon life forms are a bit better but GER is a defensive stand and its good in that case imo
17:44 Love train's counter has this exact problem and it makes me want to die because I don't like using running and cloning to win, it makes me feel dirty to stand on a corner and spawn every clone in the world to chase down the opponent.
Maybe instead of the "summon life force move", it could be the berserk abbility: -would look like a chop -it would kinda be like crazy diamond's trap attack -it would put the mind of the user outside of their body for 4 sec. - it would be blockable -and it hits no matter what(by that I mean it can't be cancelled like beatdowns) Or you could just give ge and ger a kick barrage, I mean it does use it quite often in the anime...(it would look like tw's kick barrage animation).
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In the anime ger was given requiem and became more of a defensive stand then offensive It’s the same as ge in strength power It’s over powered in anime because of its rtz ability not punching strength
GER flicked a pebble, a god damn pebble and destroyed a sizeable chunk of a stone building along with piercing a human hand clean, with no residue left, literally just a gaping hole. mind you he FLICKED a PEBBLE to do this. im pretty sure GER got a damage buff man. because GE most definitely can not do that
I think awaken should be activated after 30% hp. 9.6 dmg(without awakening) 11.1(with awaken) Can auto pb any "pb able" moves No buff to any other moves. That's it.
what if return to zero reset back to neutral so its not an uno reverse where ger gets to combo now but the move reset to zeroed the cooldown is instant that way its a reset to true neutral
Not really, incineroar is mad slow, so making use of revenge is easier said then done. A fast counter isn't taking him any higher on the tier list lmao
For GER, instead of awakening it would be sick if it gave you a "Flight" ability. To balance this out using a life beam or summon lifeform (which would be the only two moves you could use during flight) are to have near doubled cooldowns when used during flight. Flight itself should have a pretty small cooldown, as you could only use two moves. To balance THIS to avoid spamming, you could increase the flight cooldown if the user activated life beam or life form. But if you don't use a move during flight you can SORT OF spam this move (20 second CD with a 15 second duration, cancellable if you hit the key again) It's kind of a ridiculous idea, and it would be a pain in the ass to implement, but I think this would make GER an infinitely times funner stand to use like D4C:LT. Let me know what yall think of it, give a Turu if you support this idea
They could easily swap life form summon for a kick barrage, giving it the damage it needs to compete with other requiem level stands. And I’ll be cool.
Ger has a lower dmg than ge because ger is faster. It even has an awakening which makes it op. Gers barrage is faster than other barrages, which means more hits in a barrage which means more dmg. Thats why. That's also why ger is rlly op with hamon because it has star plar barrage but with extra punches and then it turns into 2.5 and absolutely melts (3 dmg per punch on vamps)
Tbh summon life form is basically useless these days. Yes it does a crap ton of dmg. But to be fair it can be blocked and its more of a punishing tool than a projectile.
It's a really useful move if your opponent doesn't knows how blocking work or if he's afk or if he died mid match. Doesn't works if your opponent has fully working keyboard and/or brain though
Replace summon life form make scorpion activate on impact and decrease the startup frames on counter by a tad bit and increase the destructive power. Then just leave as is.
I mean of course if you use specless aerosmith yes it would do this much damage but with boxing and a decent stand or vitality it barely gets you to 70 percent
Do you have no vitality, and no damage reduction? The BD really isn't that powerful for difficult it can be to land when you have reductions and half way decent health stats
I just feel like ger has too many viable moves but the counter is free damage. The awakening got nerfed but the delay is way to much from the beam. The sptw awakening in my opinion is way more op. I agree that her isn’t fun to play or play aginst
Eclipse, the reason why GE is stronger than GER is because more recently, they added destructive nodes to GE. It didn’t even have destructive nodes originally, but then they added some to make it better.
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One of my favorite jojo stands get fucked up by most jojo games, it is such a versatile stand in the anime with endless utility. They should totally rework both GE and GER.
easier said than done
Every jojo game has a bad ger mostly because it's too weak or too strong.
Hold my Silver Chariot
@@gugepfwrhgvrwer24r BRO SILVER CHARIOT IS SO OP IN LITERALLY EVERY JOJO GAME I HAVE EVER PLAYED
Rework beach boy you never see anyone playing beach boy
Even tho you mostly make yba content on this channel you still manage to make it entertaining
Look at his FPS stuff, it’s good
we wont talk about it having a one shot combo i dont quite remember..
When you realize that Eclipse knows more about YBA than Uzu himself.
From a gameplay perspective, just about anyone is gonna know more than Uzu. There's no way he plays, and I would bet if he ever does it would be with some unobtainable Mod Spec that could beat anything in its sleep.
@@EclipseGameplays Speaking facts.
Yk a crap ton of people know more than Uzu
Most game devs go into their game just to be unfair or to check if the game is buggy(RARELY)
@@EclipseGameplays I just wanted to say something about a really big problem about YBA itself, there is a device, a touch screen chromebook. Not many people play on it so i doubt Uzu would fix it anyways, but for pc users you join on mobile. You can press backspace or enter or pretty much any key on your keyboard, then you reset
and pow your on pc controls, but THEN what happened to shiftlock mode? Yes shiftlock is no more for touch screen chromebook users. If your a mobile player, and your on a touchscreen chromebook player then if you say anything, touch any key on your keyboard If you reset/die once your controls are gone. Its very annoying. I just wanted to know if you see this and could try to do anything about it. I know your not a dev or anything, but you may have an impact. (I belive that adding something in settings that adds mobile controls to your screen could fix that, if any pc users tap it they could reset and the controls would disapear. I think thats one of the best posibilities. thanks for reading this :D)
18:32 I'd go with all you just said. I'd move Life Beam to Z and add a kick barrage. RTZ cutscene needs to be updated. If you use RTZ were time-related moves arent present, the opponent(s) would drastically slow down and wouldnt be able to do anything (kinda like GER's Circle move in EOH).
I also have an idea for the bd you were thinking of. GER says some short dialouge before releasing a barrage of punches. Then, GER uppercuts you and follows you. GER then punches you, says that you wont reach reality and then punches you some more until ultimately lauching you away.
Thats just my take tho 😋
But that’s only time ger does a bd tho I wouldn’t see any other to do a ger bd
Respect to the kcr, actually a person that genuinely played well and did so many things I’ve never seen
Too bad they used queen crimson tho
I do agree that replacing the awakening with bd is a good thing cuz everytime i use the awakening the person runs for literally 5 mins then when the awakening ends they start attacking again, its really annoying
i like your opinion about the ger awakening should be change to beatdown bcs when i start using awakening all people just running especially mr pres when im awaken he just sitting in the room
Nice and short video keep up the great work btw where your bf4 videos at?
On my second channel th-cam.com/channels/xwA9LXRC72_XsaO2hPxBNQ.html
@@EclipseGameplays oh missed the video you made about it thx
Rtz is like.. the worst counter in game.. like i am mr main and when i encounter a ger in 1v1's and he rtz's i just wait 5 secs and Rb him as my counter
Eclipse, you should do a: "Reading suggestions from the Discord" to improve the quality on em, would be fun too.
Uh oh i think noo
then maybe uzu will accept them :0
Maybe half of them will be "buff this stand and nerf this stand cus bad "
Joshoeke you’re approaching me?
Up!!
lol the "me as well" in the thumbnail as a reference to the ge vid
Edit: for everyone saying no shit in the replies, this of course was expected, you guys are part of the yba community after all
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"A little over 2 months ago. Nothing happened"
YBA updates in a nutshell
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@@EclipseGameplays lmfao, can u do a th + pluck build or bust?
@@Ecco502 he won’t use pluck
@@AmongUs-cc9xs e
I think the reason why GER has less core move destructive power is because the devs wanted it to be a side grade compared to GE. (But the YBA devs suck at balancing sooooo….)
yeah but ger can still do scorpion barrage off of a parry and summon life form out of a block break, they nerfed it in the wrongest way possible yet again (what a shocker!1!!1!1)
@@ilyassebenammi7921 WHO WOULDVE SEEN IT COMING?!
@@ilyassebenammi7921 parry and block break same stun or no?
@@Sadnessiuseless well they technically do but in a parry you have less time to capitalise since youre stuck in the parry animation
If it took them 6 months to make some TWAU knives blockable and haven’t nerfed D4CLT yet, I can 100% see why GER is going to get buffed, but in the wrong way
14:36 manz stand was made in heaven literally dropped down from sky
Kcroh
Please refrain, while I use this metal frame and combine it with my gravity powers to flyyyyyyyyy
@@epiksis KCOH
it amazes me that people still try and talk and ask eclipse "IS IT REALLY YOU?!" Like bro he's not gonna respond and if he does it'll be a no
Ok and??
@@seaeggs how did you not get the point of the comment it's like two sentences.
@@seaeggs how did you not get the point of the comment it's like two sentences.
@@seaeggs how did you not get the point of the comment it's like two sentences.
@@seaeggs how did you not get the point of the comment it’s like two sentences
I’m a GER main and while it has bad design, I think it’s still very good. And about the thing about it having lower destructive power is because it’s throwing a bit away from strength in return for better moves (what I’m guessing). For summon life form, it forces them to block up close so then you can do pierce and 90% of the time block break them, leading for scorpion barrages and such. (I’m not saying it’s a well designed move, it’s just not completely obsolete)
I said this (I think, this video was made nearly a month ago at this point) GER is a good stand, the problem is it isn't very fun to use, and certainly not fun to fight against, hence the "Bad Game Design" philosophy
Ahh yes summon life form
The enemy: *dashes* oh no.
NITRO!?
Yoasting
@@blumtis cheeseburger
uzu sees this video
uzu: gives ger 50 dmg bd
elcipse: why do I even bother
ah yes, my favourite youtuber. *ElcIpSe*
@Bio I agree
Elcipse 🥵🥵🥵🥶🥶🥶🥶😡😡
To be fair 50 damage is tame depending on how long it lasts
Omg such an idiot...
ITS eiclsep GET IT RIGHT
the actual reason to ger having less destructive power than ge is that they buffed ge's and didnt buff ger's
GER shouldn’t have high DP, it’s not relevant to the ability
@@sysyishot7859 "not relevent to the ability" we gonna ignore how ger *FLICKED, ONLY FLICKED* a pebble and destroyed a building? (correction, it was a decent chunk of the building, still shows that ger is strong as fuck)
@@literalcorpse2037 plot
@@sysyishot7859 Yes, it's also plot that Diavolo killed 3 of the main characters within part 5, it's also plot that Dio in part 1 shot fucking lasers from his eyes, it's also plot that in part 3 DIO stopped time. What's your point here? Diavolo also directly stated that Gold Experience gained a power boost once Giorno used the arrow, even if Gold Experience Requiem's ability is to reverted any damage towards the user to zero, they still also gain a power boost. Now either get a point or get out.
@Unforgotten Soul I did it
“If ger remains with this instant combo escape, cancel all other abilities move then it would be too strong”
Replace ger with d4c love train and it’s still true
Love train can't be used during stun
Lol
Jaj
Amogus
Funny fact, if you use the heal of GE or GER on love train it will work and do the animation, you probably already knew but it’s cool to think about
Aint no way he said Sptw beatdown does a "decent" amount of damage😭
decent as in 50% if you dont have boxing lmao
@@Ricin. 😂
tell me you havn't used sptw bd without telling me you havn't used star platinum the world beatdown
@@neodong6060 No Hamon
@@neodong6060 I've had Sptw many times lol the damage is insane
anyone remember project jojo ger? favorite version mainly bc it was insanely rare and also op. Walk in time stop was really nice bc time stop meant death in that game, being able to rtz counter ppl all it did was damage and stunned, and its healing was really good, damage and stats were really solid. Also having the ability to combie stands in that game is a feature I haven't seen done again which makes the game so much better making ger with cream bc cream added basically extra damage to all damage basically made it insane.
I really would love to see another jojo game with the combing stands idea again it made combat so interesting or annoying if someone made a op combination. Like when u can make soft and wet have unstoppable tracking bubbles or killer queen au have triple as many explosives also adding hamon which buffed all damage a bit doing completely insane damage like being able to kill someone 5 times over, sticky fingers abilities like the arm extender thing with the power of star platinum the world, and lastly tusk act 4 and star platinum with act 4 making all melee damage double and star platinum already insane damage being one of the top stands.
I really loved the killer queen main and king crimson sub combination bc its just killer queen but with time erase so you could time erase which made it look like ur still standing there so know one knows when u use time erase then plant btd on someone then teleport back to where u where standing and everyone would have no idea what's going on lol. like all major abilities were crazy in that game. man time acceleration from mih was horrible to deal with they run at mach 5 and at the end there's a huge explosion that kills u unless ur stand is like sp and u have a lot of resistance.
If you think aut was unbalanced play that game its been a long time and has many updates so its probably much different tho. But man it was fun as hell.
I guess today's "summon life form" should be replaced with a similar move, but a combo starter
The only 3 ideas i got:
1. Same/cursor aiming bird that does same stun as hermit purple's vine trap, blockable
2. Ger summon a fly (insect) that follows the nearest enemy and when connects, does a hit after some sort of startup/sound and if hits does same stun as vine trap, blockable/only perfect blockable (no stun of ger user if perfect block)
3. Ger punches the ground with a bit faster startup then "summon tree", it shots some vine on the floor with similar mechanic as "flash freeze" (wa ice move) but only in length, not in height, blockable/blockable but does 2 hits, same stun as vine trap
4. Completely same as 3, but it does not stun as vine trap, only stops person and disables ANY movement abilitys, person still can block while being in vine. If blocked before the vine hit, unless he stops blocking he can move out
RTZ should not unsummon stands unless there is any time related move (if time erase, then all players that was in range of te get's stand off)
And yes, no moving and blocking in a cutscene
Not a necesarry or even not good idea: make it so self heal heal only 30, then have cooldown 115% of healing others, after end, heals another 30, and after it have cooldown of usual self healing
example: +30 (cooldown 20 seconds) + 30 (cooldown 40 seconds)
if used again then again +30 (cd 20 sec) + 30 (cd 40 ces)
like it have smaller cooldown but every second use it gets old big cooldown
Counter fix is counter fix, frames
i am really surprised someone actually red this all
@@AliceTheBestWaifu :)
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"...only perfect blockable (no stun of ger user if perfect block)"
No stun for GER if move 2 gets parried? That just contradicts the whole point of a parry. It's not a parry unless your perfectly timed block punishes your opponent-that punishment usually being a stun.
I don't know what to do in YBA anymore, I'm bored of PVP and SBR is just exploiters galore, so I'm pretty bored.
I'm waiting for a good Jojo game to drop ngl
Same here
I play aut instead
And aut sucks
@@sh4se765 this is your opinion
I've been saying for a long time, i want the awakening gone from my favourite stand, to give it a kick barrage or beatdown, to make ger just, somewhat more usable than the "run away from me mode"
A beadown is unnecessary, just a fix should be done unless the awakening is removed that would fix a lot more
why GER in ABA is permanent tho, isn't it toggleable canon-wise?
@@GimOA requiems are permanent
@@GimOA idk why some games like aut and abd made ger an awakening for ge, when theyre literally permanent
@@xybeasto auts ger is barely an awakening lol
It’s worse that ge
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Fun Fact: now GER is a genuinely honest stand if you don't use Awaken
Honest? it just sucks LOOOL
@@slump_vibez493 lol its funny when a tw without knives can beat ger
@@slump_vibez493 That's the reason why it's honest, it's got Awaken and Return to Zero making it fine enough, but not good enough to be amazing. Kind of like Dan in SF5, but Dan is a joke character, so I should shut
Without awakening it's nothing but mediocre
it is muda
I’m still standing by my statement I made in eclipse’s previous video about GER, and the devs giving him a bd.
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Eclipse's infinite death beatdown sounds like a legendary finish. I'd say YBA should add a concept like that, but it's got other problems to worry about.
Maybe to counter loosing some big boy moves GER could get some passives. I mean canonically it's a defensive/counter stand. Maybe a tiny bit of passive damage resistance that could take some upgrade pips. Also would love to see the Awakening floaty move be the default or maybe sprint when using the stand
a funny counter would be like a hah you thought move aka if your about to get knocked out k.o. you play a cutscene with ger saying Korega Requiem Da... and you will never reach the truth before healing you 25-50 percent hp back and only able to be used once in 1v1s and it is a passive that has a 200000 minute cooldown in 1v1's and a 20 minute cooldown in main game to stop it from being I LIVE FOREVER
The ace attorney soundtrack makes your points way more impactful damn
Oh i just noticed the soundtrack
Eclipse, you should play ABA just so you have perspective on how bad a game's combat can be, because I can assure you that Anime Battle arena is about twice as worse to play than AUT's current state.
There are jojo characters in ABA don't worry
I think he did play ABA before on stream and didn't enjoy it very much. (Might not be true)
it feels like tb2 but 1000x worse.
i actually like aut combat
@@ultrafoxyt drop me the link to the stream if you can find it
@@bowldawg4394 th-cam.com/video/2yfWnF7AvWU/w-d-xo.html
It's at like at the 1 hour 30 minute mark and pretty old so opinions might change and for my knowledge the only time he played ABA on stream.
@@bowldawg4394 i like how in aba one shot combos are like the norm for most caracters
Ger should become a hard to get stand like TWOH, have a long quest to become "worthy"
Edit: aswell as when becoming way harder to get it would also become way stronger.
Actwully in my opinion really good idea
as a ger main i can 100% agree with everything now if summon life form had the same tracking as sha then it will be useful and for anyone that is going to say iT wIlL bE tO oP let me say this you can still block it it wont be that op if u can block it
It would still suck. I think they really ought to just replace it with something else entirely
@@EclipseGameplays ah true but if they was to do that like 2% of the players might just find a way to cheese someone with it I don't know how but when it comes to a lot of people with more then 7 brain cells they might find away
I have a query, what happens when you kill somebody with the ger awakening in the 1v1’s mode? Is it just a free win??
they removed inf death on 1v1
What is your favourite stand..?
Man has been ignored for 2 years
@@lazmo4941 wild 💀
@@lazmo4941 yeah :(
@@wafki Rest in fuck
I was the kcr with the extremely obvious scythe
even I can agree that was total bs
I distinctly remember saying "WHAT?!?!?" at the same time you said it in chat, was pretty funny
The game design did a little trolling
the fact that also applies to c-moon counter is also bs, the counter is almost unusable imo, how come epitaph has no start up but c-moon and ger has? doesn't make any sense at all
I fought a Ger ditto yesterday, and the first round went on for so long (Tree, heal, Tree, heal) We both agreed on not using heal on the second round. The problem Ger has is that it is a jack of all trades but not the best at anything, its not really a projectile stand and it lacks the destruction power of a close ranged melee stand. Forcing its user to play as campy as they can be making matches turn into 30 minute sludge fests.
I still want cream + boxing, but this is aceptable
Ger's RTZ should put people where they were like 5-10 seconds ago. When the opponent is going back they are completely vulnerable. This would also reset time stop and time erase. To balance this as well the opponent will get the heath that they had 5-10 seconds ago
Finally somebody gets it, there’s a good and a bad to RTZ.
so just btd but it negates stuff and damage is manual
@TheEmeraldSploosh I mean to be fat that would be how it would happen canonically. And it acts as a good balance so you can’t just punish someone for comboing you
Dumpster ge has evolved to Dumpster ger! :0
A ger buff: Basically make gers counter into an attacking move so if the counter connects, you do a short attack animation doing a decent amount of dmg.
I mean that really doesn't help, the main problems are the start up and barraging during the counter
@@ranch9593 this will make it so u cant barrage in the counter and the startup is a clear thing that should be fixed
@@mmatooz yea but instead of completely revamping the counter the could just make it so you cant barrage
@@ranch9593 still, this wont make the counter as op because if u just nerf the counter then that honestly makes the counter kinda useless
@@mmatooz I mean eclipse even said it's in an alr state rn they need to just make is so you cant barrage and reduce the start up
I agree ish awakening carries this stand but he's still bad
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Why do i hear boss music?
tbh I haven't been scared of a ger in a while, especially a ger awakening
Ending up with beach boi after using 25 arrows and rokas
agree, i hate inf death when my ping is 1k
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Mih users: 🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
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I've had this idea for a while but now i get to actually suggest it.
My idea for fixing RTZ is to make it a ultimate like BTD. You do a short animation and whoever is near you gets affected just like BTD, and if noone is near you it doesn't activate. You go back 5-10 seconds, and whatever damage you took will be reverted, and anyone who was in the cutscene (including you) will get 25% cooldown decrease on whatever skill they have on cooldown (since your returning everything to what it was 10 sec ago). This would balance it out, not too op, but very useful. Current RTZ is stupid since you get rewarded for getting timestopped or combo'd which makes 0 sense. This would be helpful for when you just got beatdowned or time stopped, and it wouldn't punish the player who landed it.
YESS Ikr
rtz is fine the way it is, it has a decent cooldown, cancels all time and dimension hop and gives immunity, the move is fine, its the lifebeam and dmg output that is the problem
Why is the new model so ✨crusty✨
I would like to ask if you could reconsider your thoughts on KCR, as I personally think most of its aspects are really cheese. For starters, epitaph is a free mini beatdown that does 20% of your health (depending on build) with 0 startup or endlag for missing it. Time erase is a free attack or guardbreak (like jaw breaker). Sythe has very few optinos to avoid and for most people either forces a limb removal (basically a life lost if you lose a leg or arm) or a block break (free massive damage combo).the box is free pose time in a 1v1 and has no counterplay, and lastly the destructive power means hamon kcr can literatly barrage to win and not use any other moves and still come out on top (a 2.3 barrage does like 100 damage)
POV you got shit on by a kcr because you kept getting bated in to hitting epitaph
AND you can time skip during slash.
unbalanced. as. fuck.
I don’t wanna be that guy but imma be that guy. Epitaph can be baited (it’s not too hard but sometimes doesn’t work so). Time erase can be countered timeskipped out of, or your move can be canceled by mashing. A lot of the time just dashing can avoid scythe if they aim the wrong way and you can use counters, timeskips, time erase, etc to avoid it. Box is definitely cheese with the pose stuff but there is counterplay to it, timeskips can get you out (but you are still blind and slow) and RTZ will fully disable it. And the hamon barrage first depends on the enemy stand but yea that is also cheese.
Build or bust: GER pluck, just do scorpion and pierce strike (maxed), if they block pierce strike, it'll block break, they'll get hit by all scorpions
Ok here. New ger rework moveset. 1 is rtz doesn't give i frames if cancelled. 2 ger cannot move in ts but but can rtz it. Life beam only summons scorpions if it hit the opponent. Tree will be a skill that lifts the opponent up if you hold it and lifts you up if You you simply press it. Nullification zero will be s little beatdown counter. The bd will do roughly 60 damage. Summon life form bird will be replaced with a triple kick move that combo extends. There. Its balanced. Also awakening only gives you more vitality and regen and doesn't buff damage. The barage is 1.7 per hit heavy punch 20 damage and m1s 9.8.
1.6 barrage. Take it or leave it, because a 1.5 barrage with hamon already goes up to as much as 1.8 which is a lot, and by my calculations, 1.7 hamon buffed will be roughly around 2.2 and 2 damage per a punch, and remember KCR? The stand that was only good for high destructive power? Yeah, that thing again but it now has a combo extender that deals great damage and can chain into more m1's. And overall, the combo extender idea is bad with high destructive power. I can even calculate, if 1 M1 is a 9.8 then the combo of 2 M1's plus extender plus 2 m1's will deal around 39.2+kicks, and not even mentioning hamon buffed. And a 60 damage counter? Now THAT'S one hell of a lot of damage. Hamonic buffed it'll be like, 80? Or around that. And, simply how BUSTED would GER be if it was to spawn scorpions on a hit. 22 damage+11.2(or what was it)x4=66.8, and considering the fact it has kick you might as well just die, because if the new beam has enough stun on the user to not allow him to move but allow opponent to block, it will never work since it'll always be blocked. Enough stun on opponent so it deals and puts you into netural state? 66.8 free damage, move overpowered because cannot counter, enough stun on opponent but not user? Even more overpowered, netural state? Move uncountable due to M1's, zoom punch and kicks having enough stun to land scorpions.
At least it isn’t as bad as AUT where they changed one move and forgot about it’s main ability
GE's scorpion is way better than GER's, landing GER's version is *agony*
Not to mention the startup is hell and accuracy is broken
@@ethanbub9148agreed
it can legit somehow hit a wall when you fire it at somebody
I think they should just make awakening usable at low hp, just like AUT sptw and tusk
That's a good idea but also bad as yba and aut alr have beef this could end up with both game copyrighting each other.
@@Dansaki24 meanwhile project star borrow a bit from both game.
@@Dansaki24 bruh, what are you talking about? They do not, and can't, own the idea of having ur awakening available at low hp, pretty sure someone has already did it before.
@@Dansaki24 Aut copyrighting YBA would be hilariously hypocrit (if that was even possible to copyright moves in a combat game) since they use a crap ton of copyrighted music.
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Imo 2 destructive nodes being added and removing the damage boost from awakening and replacing it with true damage should suffice.
I have never used ger because of how bad it is even though I love the stand in the anime
... bad?! LOL! My friend stopped me from getting GER when I had GE and I regret that, GER is powerful In utility. They need to buff base dmg and make it so summon life forms are a bit better but GER is a defensive stand and its good in that case imo
Elipse how would u feel about a kick barrage instead of summon life form?
Yes! This is great! Great points, good solutions.
When GER is only op becuz if his awakening but every move is bad :
"ger awakening op" you can just run away and use mobility moves to escape
@@fravel8702 I doubt any stand or spec could get away from ger awakening except for made in heaven
@@sueheheheh6398 litterally just dash and run
@@nyx1009 yeah unlike ger has good speed buffs 🙄
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17:44 Love train's counter has this exact problem and it makes me want to die because I don't like using running and cloning to win, it makes me feel dirty to stand on a corner and spawn every clone in the world to chase down the opponent.
Choose a different stand then?
Maybe instead of the "summon life force move", it could be the berserk abbility:
-would look like a chop
-it would kinda be like crazy diamond's trap attack
-it would put the mind of the user outside of their body for 4 sec.
- it would be blockable
-and it hits no matter what(by that I mean it can't be cancelled like beatdowns)
Or you could just give ge and ger a kick barrage, I mean it does use it quite often in the anime...(it would look like tw's kick barrage animation).
-hits no matter what
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In the anime ger was given requiem and became more of a defensive stand then offensive
It’s the same as ge in strength power
It’s over powered in anime because of its rtz ability not punching strength
GER stats are literally beyond countable.
@@datboy038 because the writers just wanted to show how strong rtz was
Doesn’t mean it’s infinitely strong
@@biggiecheeseofficial100 yeah it’s literally beyond
GER its not same strong as GE literal It says that its More strong than star platinum from part 3
GER flicked a pebble, a god damn pebble and destroyed a sizeable chunk of a stone building along with piercing a human hand clean, with no residue left, literally just a gaping hole. mind you he FLICKED a PEBBLE to do this. im pretty sure GER got a damage buff man. because GE most definitely can not do that
I kinda agree that ger is abit buff for destructive dmg for m1like ge does more like. What he said it makes no sense it's a requiem form so yeah
GE/R are not needing a buff, they're needing a total rework
I think awaken should be activated after 30% hp.
9.6 dmg(without awakening)
11.1(with awaken)
Can auto pb any "pb able" moves
No buff to any other moves.
That's it.
In the background on the vid u are using boxing but for ger pluck is better
GER in YBA: 💩
GER in ABD: ✝️⚡⚡👍👍👍
what if return to zero reset back to neutral so its not an uno reverse where ger gets to combo now but the move reset to zeroed the cooldown is instant that way its a reset to true neutral
Speaking of smash,you should do a smash stream. Would seem pretty fun considering I just played it and it's really fun.
I killed more people with ge than ger I’m not even joking bruhhh
Lmao i feel like every game messes up GER somehow,
Ge in anime: I. Am. GOD.
Ge in roblox jojo games: haha sus sus amogus haha funni bd haha amogus
I think the return to zero should be a counter and like if you time stop or time erase and all that you get countered
Me trying to think of something wayyy early in the comments:
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if you ever know how to use ger hamon your set for destroying your opponents
I didn't even know Incineroar had a frame 2 counter. That's busted as shit.
Not really, incineroar is mad slow, so making use of revenge is easier said then done. A fast counter isn't taking him any higher on the tier list lmao
lifebeam is unblockable scorpions are
When one of the strongest stands in jjba gets nerfed cause it was "too strong"
For GER, instead of awakening it would be sick if it gave you a "Flight" ability. To balance this out using a life beam or summon lifeform (which would be the only two moves you could use during flight) are to have near doubled cooldowns when used during flight. Flight itself should have a pretty small cooldown, as you could only use two moves. To balance THIS to avoid spamming, you could increase the flight cooldown if the user activated life beam or life form. But if you don't use a move during flight you can SORT OF spam this move (20 second CD with a 15 second duration, cancellable if you hit the key again)
It's kind of a ridiculous idea, and it would be a pain in the ass to implement, but I think this would make GER an infinitely times funner stand to use like D4C:LT. Let me know what yall think of it, give a Turu if you support this idea
Give another "Turu" in the comments if you would want Kanye West wolves to play every time you activate the move B)
Eclipse try vamp ph for a build or bust
yba ger: at least a little accurate
aut ger: tragic
They could easily swap life form summon for a kick barrage, giving it the damage it needs to compete with other requiem level stands. And I’ll be cool.
It’s so stupid because GE has a kick barrage technically used in the anime too so it shouldn’t be that hard
Everytime you get recognized you have to die
This was always busted now its garbo lmao
Ger has a lower dmg than ge because ger is faster. It even has an awakening which makes it op. Gers barrage is faster than other barrages, which means more hits in a barrage which means more dmg. Thats why. That's also why ger is rlly op with hamon because it has star plar barrage but with extra punches and then it turns into 2.5 and absolutely melts (3 dmg per punch on vamps)
meanwhile D4C lt with a base 1.9 per hit barrage
He brought in smash bros u know the shit hit the fan
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Tbh summon life form is basically useless these days. Yes it does a crap ton of dmg. But to be fair it can be blocked and its more of a punishing tool than a projectile.
It's a really useful move if your opponent doesn't knows how blocking work or if he's afk or if he died mid match. Doesn't works if your opponent has fully working keyboard and/or brain though
Thx eclipse for skipping the tusk bd at 11:51. I really appreciate it cause I do like my ears
Lmao
8:06 also in the anime GER hit a direct shot on diavolo and the scorpions still spawned, so that makes sense
It’s terrible I tried to use it in pvp
its got 2 two moves that are blockable and a shitty counter that has endlag
The bird move need to turn into a block bypass (not block break bc get don't have any combo ) and a kick barrage
Replace summon life form make scorpion activate on impact and decrease the startup frames on counter by a tad bit and increase the destructive power. Then just leave as is.
18:16 "It does a decent amount of damage"
The 3/4hp beatdown:
I mean of course if you use specless aerosmith yes it would do this much damage but with boxing and a decent stand or vitality it barely gets you to 70 percent
Do you have no vitality, and no damage reduction? The BD really isn't that powerful for difficult it can be to land when you have reductions and half way decent health stats
@@EclipseGameplays I agree
This is one of the many reasons why there is so much Boxing users
I just feel like ger has too many viable moves but the counter is free damage. The awakening got nerfed but the delay is way to much from the beam. The sptw awakening in my opinion is way more op. I agree that her isn’t fun to play or play aginst
Me: *talking tio my friend about jojo mentions ger.
Autocorrect: *her is so cool*.
Eclipse, the reason why GE is stronger than GER is because more recently, they added destructive nodes to GE. It didn’t even have destructive nodes originally, but then they added some to make it better.
they should add wamuu spec
I think if ger got a beat down, it should be the counter to activate the beatdown
do video of playing on mobile
One thing that might be good for GR is if you hit the life beam of creation on someone then they’re stunned but that might be broken
4:42 what the hell was that teleport