I would love to see how you setup a ramdisk in UNRAID and in Windows 7. I also want to thank you so much for all of your informative videos, i have learned a lot.
Space, you're unraid videos are the best! I had done a 10gb home network some time ago, but decided to shut it down because the 10gb switch ate so much power to run. I tried various online tutorials on how to do peer to peer 10gb, but they were over complicated and never got it going. now I have peer 2 peer between my unraid server and my torrent PC at 10gb, and it was super simple to do. Thank you so much buddy. Keep up the great videos!
Thank you so much for this and your many other excellent tutorial videos.You've opened a whole new world of possibilities I'd previously thought to be far too complicated for me to attempt. I also really appreciate the quick history lesson and explanation about power consumption. While I now maintain 4 hackintoshes for my family, I used Macs for many years before that and always wondered why they never moved on from gigabit ethernet, when Apple are, if anything, normally far too quick to adopt new standards and drop old ones (that work perfectly well thank you!) Now I know!
I like to do an active passive bond with 10gb primary and 1gb as failover have the bond interface assigned to the bridge. Found this video currently troubleshooting why my 10gb network interface is missing in Unraid as I am moving from a Dell R510 that used a Melanox card to a Dell R730XD that has a built in dell 4 port card with 2x RJ45 and 2x SFP. Unraid sees 1 of the two 10gb interfaces and it doesnt work, and I have link lights and its just all strange. I really wonder if maybe this is bad hardware. I see the card in the bios and I get link lights but Unraid is just unable to make use of it. Actually considering going back to my R510 since the goal of the R730 was to save power and they are within 10w of each other, and the R730 is no faster for what I use it for (Unraid only)
Great video. I’m looking to do this with mine, seeing as this video is 5 years old are their any other budget NICs other than the Solarflair/HP Mellanox as these are quite hard to come by these days? Thanks
This is a great Tutorial. Now that I have more bandwidth I would like to see a video for UnRAID Kodi Headless Docker Setup. There is no videos or good guides out there. Thanks for your work.
Another great video! Thank you! Yes, please create a how-to create a RAM disk video. My Amiga came with a RAM disk built into the operating system and it was awesome!
aarrggghh! I remember! Commando, in-game music. I though I recognized that music at the beginning of this video. ;) Thanks for the nostalgic flashback to the local arcade, and for these very informative videos!
Ramdisk video please. I set this up on my 2 servers at home this summer. I am running Beyond Compare from a VM and using the 10GbE to backup my primary rootshare to the second server using Br1. Works great but i am limited to the write speed of my drives. it is nice, In windows 7 at least, the internal speed from Unraid to the Win7 VM is 10GbE right out of the gate. Excellent Video as always.
I'm not to a point where I need this, but man, it looks awesome. I'm still trying to figure out absolute basics. Like how do you even decide what IP ranges to use and stuff like that. Stayed for the whole video though, even if I am wholly unqualified! :P
Great videos as always, however have you looked into the new 10g switches or even an old enterprise switch to give 10g access across the network for multiple devices? I have an issue where my server and desktops are in different locations and I need switches on both sides to provide network connectivity, so two 10g switches will help give the properly connectivity.
Great video - turns a complicated topic into a very easy to understand one. A note that on 6.9-RC1 the "priority" setting comment doesn't appear to be valid anymore. I never had to make any changes to the settings apart from what was outlined in the video, and it even looks like attempts to access shares through the 1gbit connection have automatically routed through the 10GbE instead. Not having had the earlier versions I have no idea when this changed, but it certainly makes it as close to plug and play as you could expect - it was about 30 minutes in total from installing to PCI-E slots, rebooting and updating the settings.
Do the two networks (1G and 10G) need to be on different subnets? If I'm daisy-changing my internet to my PC via a network bridge on the unRAID server, can I not keep them all on the same 192.168.0.xxx subnet?
10:20 I'm so new to this, so I'm stuck. Is there some kind of rhyme or reason or method to how you came up with this number? Do I need to match some of these numbers to something else in my system? or can I just make anything up? Thanks for your help.
Hey there, first of all, what a great info packed video. I am wondering though could you connect an unraid server to a Small 10gbe switch and have say 3 or 4 pcs be able to be able to have direct access to the server without the internet ?
Great video. I recently just did this myself, and am very happy with it. The one problem I've had, is that on unraid, my plex docker now thinks it's IP is the one on the 10Gb direct link. I think this is causing everything from plex to transcode as though it's remote access. Any thoughts? Thanks!
I have a couple questions. 1. Do you have any issues with the 10G cards disconnecting from unraid (I think due to thermal limits or something, at least that's my issue; Chenbro NR12000 and hp nc523sfp) 2. Is windows 7 the same as windows 10 setup in the video? I'll have to try and figure it out after I figure out how to get the 10g card to work on the unraid machine. 3. Would that setup with local static IPs work through a switch for example, my home network is 192.168.1.x, say I make my 10G 168.192.1.x, would the switch be able to determine what's what or do I need a designated switch? I'm only running windows (7, 8.1, and some 10) and Unraid; no mac or other linux (for now, I haven't gotten the time to sit down and try to learn a linux).
Hi SpaceOne, Thank you so much for your vidéos. For info I bought 2x Asus Xg-c100c (86€ on Amazon) works like a charm on Catalina, Windows ans unraid without drivers. keep safe
Hey SpaceInvader One, any chance you can do something on 10Gbe multichannel and unraid, would love to use 2 x 10gbe nics in peer to peer between the unraid server and windows 10 machine to fully use Nvme m.2 drive speeds @20Gbe. Currently have a 2 port HP NC523SFP in unraid and 2 mellanox-x2 cards that can go into my windows 10 machine. Have you done anything like this or know it to work?
2020 and still remains a very nice informative video. I wonder how would it be possible to change 10gb card's options in Unraid for better performance, for instance to enable jambo frames. In windows if you go to configure or advanced there are plenty of stuff to change like At adapter properties go to configure or advanced interrupt moderation ->disabled RX Interrupt Moderation Type ->Adaptive jumpo packet ->9000 RSS Base Processor Number ->7 RSS Maximun Processor Number ->63 Maximum number of RSS Processors->8 Receive Buffers ->4096 Send Buffers ->4096 Maximum number of RSS Queues ->4 Receive Side Scaling ->Enabled Also what would be the mess if you go to the hosts windows file (c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts) and declare 10gb card's ip and the Unraids name. Then 10gb connection wouldn t work at all because it eould try to resolve by name and since no DNS it wouldhang there? Or that move would reduce the speed from 10gb to 1gb because of the different route (modem/router) which is 1gb PS Seen some videos that did that naming in hosts but I dont know if that would require a 10gb switch also that it would have been connected to the main modem/router and the name then it wouldnt matter.
You should add affiliate links to products you cover, I buy stuff you recommend and if you had an affiliate link, you'd get money to support your channel.
Hi - just played around my system based upon your video, which was excellent by the way. My Unraid server has a Broadcom card in it - 2 connections at 10GB and 2 at 1GB. The two 1 gig ports aren't connected to anything - one of the 10GB ports is connected to my network switch and the other to a windows server . I wasn't sure which port was which in UnRAID so I set each port with a static address and pinged each from my windows server - I expected only 2 to work but all 4 did even though bonding and bridging is off on all. Why would this be ? - also did a test copying as you did and only achieved 170MB/Sec ?
So, I can see this being useful on FreeNas and other RAID/ZFS based systems. But is it really worth it on unRAID? You're only gonna get the read speed of the disk the file is stored on, except if you pull files from an SSD cache array. And read speeds of the most commonly used drives (3TB WD Red for example) rarely exceed 150MB/s which is only about 30MB/s faster than the 1Gbit cap. Am I missing something?
Yeah you are right that on unRAID it will only transfer from the servers fastest disk. But if you are writing files to the server from a workstation and the share is cache enabled then it will write to the speeds of the ssd. Also this video if for setting up 10gbe on windows and osx as well as unRAID :)
You can easily set up an UnRaid share to "live" on the cache drive, and then use SSD on both ends, get 300-500 GB/sec Doing this I can transfer the Win10 install ISO literally faster than I can get a screenshot taken of it. (or even better NVME drive on both ends!). Or more practically perhaps, play a game on Windows (or run a big program) that you store on your NAS cache drive. Then your Windows drive can be much smaller/cheaper. In my case, it allows my Win machine (and Hackintosh) to be in mini PCs and the NAS in the "big box". My UnRaid box can be a slow but hugely multicore (dual CPU) Xeon machine but still use fast i7's in the Win/Mac rigs for my apps and games. And we're talking
I do something like this. My unRaid box runs all the computers in the house via in-home streaming boxes and little raspberry pi type stuff. The cache array is 9gb/sec reads and 6gb/sec writes for sequential data. And all the GPUs.
Excellent video, made me subscribe to your channel! Im also a avid hackintosh user and this video was very educational as Im looking in to setting up 10gb network for our small video editing studio in Armenia all running macOS. Can you do a video on how set up a 10gb network switch/router to have a few machines access a NAS server that is 10Gb copper. Its so confusing on what to use and what works on hacintoshes and what doesn’t. Thanks mate! Looking forward to your next upload.
Hi Neekolos. Thanks for subscribing. Yes I actually have a video planned on making a 10gbe switch which will do just what you are looking for. I am just needing to order some parts and should hopefully get the video done this month. :)
Great!! I am also looking into building an unRAID server for Studio Storage with multiple HaKINTOSH and Windows 10 graphics workstations. Same here confusing about Raid Controllers, Gigabit Switch with SFP+ and Cat6
I'm testing 40gbe connectx-3 cards.... dual port... I believe you can bridge the two ports so you can daisy chain the network... I will buy a switch if this doesn't work...
So, I bought the Solarflare SFN5122F SFP+ Card. But it doesn't fit into my motherboard. I'm using a Z370 Aorus gaming 7. It doesn't fit into my case (It's to narrow), and won't lock into the motherboard PCIe slot. I could get it to work if I screwed off the back plate, but it sits loose. Are there adapters, or do I need to go with a completely different card. I'd be grateful for your insight.... Cheers, Killian
Hi Killian. So i am guessing that you have bought the small form factor version. I dont think that you will be able to buy an adaptor. I would sell the card you have and buy the full size version.
I have the same Solarflare card (SFN5122F SFP+) but it is not recognised in Windows 10. I downloaded the driver from the Solarflare website, and it installed without a problem. Nothing appears in device manager though (before or after), and it doesn't show up in network adapters. Haven't tried another OS yet, but will try OSX or a Win Server install when I can. Anyone have any ideas?
How would I go about using this on a docker container? I am trying to set up a lancache (from the excellent lancache-bundle container) for Steam and it worked fine over 1Gb. However, when I use br2 and set the correct subnet (1Gb LAN is on 10.0.0.x and 10Gb peer-to-peer is on 10.0.10.x) and IP address (10.0.10.1 for the Unraid NIC, 10.0.10.2 for the Windows 10 NIC, and 10.0.10.3 for the docker container) it doesn't seem to function anymore. My theory is that since the 10Gb network has no access to the internet, and the lancache needs to download stuff from the Steam servers, it's unable to do so since it's on the different subnet and has no access to the internet. Is there a way to access the container on the 10Gbe network but have it connect to the internet in some way as well? Is this a case in which a switch would be required so that I could access the internet over the 10GbE cable (let's say a 4-port switch, one is the port coming from the router with internet with a RJ45 to SFP+ transciever, with the two others connecting to the server and client)? I'd love your input on this as I don't want to just spend money on a switch then later realize I either didn't need it or it wouldn't fix my issue. Also, you should totally make a video on the lancache-bundle container! It's a fantastic container that is really useful for saving disk space on my client computer, as all my games just sit on my server and download at hundreds of megabytes a second (if they're on the array, if they're on the cache then it's potentially 500MB/s+ depending on what device it's on, SATA or NVMe) if I want to play a game. For now I have to be content with it being limited to 125MB/s on Gigabit (which is still 10x faster than doing it over the internet!), but I'd like to be able to use my NVMe drive and 10GbE network to download at upwards of 1.25GB/s.
I use it in osx. Havent tried in pfsense natively. I use mine bridged in a virtual pfsense. If I get a chance i will see if pfsense has driver support for it and report back.
That would be great to confirm, i am struggling to buy 6-8 of them (SFN5122F SFP+) to make SFP+ switch. The other interesting question would be, how many PCIe card could i pass trough to an unRaid VM? According to my previous experiment, it was 3GPU/VM. If i want to put pfSence in VM, i will need more for sure otherwise i need to do bear-metal. (Planned MB: SuperMicro X10SRA-F) Huge Respect for the useful tutorials!
Hello! i need to speedup my imaging browsing on my unraid server. I want to buy solarflare for my win/hack machine and mellanox for my unraid server. That works?
dumb question is there a need for a cross over cable or can you directly connect them via SFP cable// I can get my cards to see each other and ping but windows 10 wont connect to any share on unraid and was wondering of that could be a factor
@@SpaceinvaderOne hi yes did that, it either times out with an error of firewall on the other end could be preventing the connection (not the exact wording) or a BSOD.. so maybe its a driver problem on the windows side (using a chelsio t320) . I will source some later mellanox cards and give them ago- great videos btw .. i always give u the thumbs up
Hi, great videos like always.. ive tried this but for some reason.. i can see the 10gb card in System Devices but in network settings... im not seeing the card there to setup the IP address. im trying to connect to UNRAID system together. one system has already 2 card and one has 4 cards but they dont show the 10gb card.. any ideas?
Now 40 gbe cards are cheap as dirt.... and qsfp+ cables can be had cheap... Just bought a 25m active cable for less than $100...Moving my new media server, which I'm building atm.. into the basement because it's a 2u beast that sounds like a jet engine that I bought for $350 off ebay..Dual xeon with 24gb of ram and 12x3tb sas drives.. Connectx-3 cards can be bought from anywhere from $30-$100... and they support rdma which is crazy fast.... Don't think unraid supports rdma, but not sure...
Is there a way to do this over cat5e instead of sfp+ while keeping similar costs? As my house already has cat5e runs, and my server is in a different room to my PC.
Its cool but i have 4 windows systems in a room with a unraid attached along with a Boss computer 30 meter apart. All of them are connected through a gigabit switch with cat 6 cable. As with you said cat 6 can transfer better bandwidth of 10gbe, can you explain how exactly that works? so that i can upgrade my system easily.
To use 10gbe over cat 6 you need a different network adaptor than i use in the video. Something like a Intel X540-T2 Dual Port 10Gbit RJ45 PCI-e X8 Adapter You will also need a 10 gbe switch
On the bright side, enthusiast motherboards are starting to come with 10gbe built in or with a daughter card (almost all x399 mobos, for example have this). Hopefully this will push adoption and get us some cheaper 10gbe switches/routers.
I really wish I could figure out why my SMB is so slow. I have tried various thing sand I'm always getting around ~100 MB/s most of the time, sometimes it jumps up to 150-250, but it is nowhere near constant I do have good NVMe cache drives, and a switch capable of SFP+ 10G, as well as a a 10G card in both my windows PC and my server
你好我来自中国，请问SFN5122F SFP +这个卡你在WIN10专业版，上面怎么驱动它工作的，我的SFN5122F SFP +怎么插上无法驱动和识别。希望能得到你的帮助谢谢。 Hello, I am from China, may I ask SFN5122F SFP + this card you are in WIN10 Pro, how to drive it to work, my SFN5122F SFP + plug in can not be driven and recognized. I hope to get your help, thank you.
I followed your guide to this day and it seemed good, but I bought this card and it was not compatible with Catalina. Sad to see the sfp+ standard start to fade. :(. Would anyone know how to make this work with these drivers? Thanks!
Hi Ed I set up the 10gb ok but when I map a drive in windows to unraid 10gb address it asks for network credentials for the 10g address, I only have a password for 1g address. any ideas?
Only found your channel a few weeks ago and it's my bible for Unraid, so thanks a million mate. Quick question though, so I am trying to do the same but between my Unraid server and my Ubuntu box. I managed to get all the unraid setup in, and I thought I had the Ubuntu part working too, but I cannot see the unraid server or map to it. Any suggestions?
You should just be able to mount a share on ubuntu to unraid. Try smb. smb://x.x.x.x/share make sure the x.x.x.x is the IP of the Unraid servers 10gbe adapter. Hope this helps. Thanks, for watching :)
by using static dhcp reservation and briging the 1gb and 10gb nic in windows u can use the same subnet and remouve the redundent 1gm cable on the server but the drawbac is that the windows needs to stay on all the time for the server to be able to comunicat o the network i dont know if u can do this in reverse in unraid basic ly it turn the nic into a pastru switsh
Although it seems this is unnecessary if there are only two 10 GbE devices. But I would need to have a completely different network range for access over 10 GbE?
as soon as i try to make the map network drive on windows 10 it asks for network credentials....??? no combination of account and password is working. im stumped and google options all dont work
for me my 1gb and my 10gb have the same mac address so when i follow the steps for setting up unraid when i do it and hit apply i can no longer get in to the web page for unraid ? any idea why this is ?
Hi +Spaceinvader One, love your unraid videos! question...do you have a line on any single port 10gbe sfp+ cards for a decent price with a low profile bracket? my unRAID server is in a 2U 12 bay hotswap case and space is tight I am only going to be linking my two unraid servers together one is media and general storage other is my home automation and VM server just want my VM on one server to be able to transfer files to other nice and fast....Keep up the great work love from Canada!
I don't think you will be able to bond them and get a performance increase without a switch. With a switch you will likely only receive a performance increase by bonding 2 on the server side but not on the client side. When you download files from one computer to another you typically will be limited by a single connections max speed. However if you have 2 computers pulling from the same server and the server is actually capable of outputting more than 1200MB/s then you will indeed benefit from bonding the channels on the server side. To benefit from bonding on the client side you would have to transfer files using the newer versions of SMB. Sometimes even with SMB on both sides I have seen where you don't get the expected gain. For example sometimes I don't see the 450+MB/s transfer speeds expected from a 4 port gigabit network card even though the switch is fed by 2 SFP+ ports that are bonded and the NAS is capable of sustained 600MB/s speeds and multiple minute long bursts of 1800MB/s. There is even an array on the nas that is comprised of (6) 1TB SSDs and even pulling from that sometimes I only see 300-350MB/s on my 4 port gigabit cards. Anyways I would read about making use of those 4 port cards because it will give some insight into the troubles of making use of multiple high speed connections over SMB
Hey Spaceinvader One. Again tnx for this video ad it pushed me to finaly dive into the 10GB world. But i am hitting a massive problem. I can pass thru my dual 1GB adapter in the unraid server perfectly fine to the OSX Sierra VM. I flashed it so i can use the SmallTree drivers. I get speeds as expected for unraid. BUT, the big BUT is that if i i use bridging instead , so use the vmxnet3 driver in OSX , it only reports 1GB and speeds are limited to 1GB. This is true for a 1GB card based unraid bridge as well as an actual 10GB card based unraid bridge. Did you even managed to get the virtual card ever to declare itself as 10G ? For Windows VM's it seems all good and even a 1GB based bridge works as a 10GB virtual card when accessing unraid shares. And thats the reason i need it for. I tricked it to test by plugging port 2 into port 1 and having port 1 in unraid and port 2 physical passed to the VM and i get 400mb/s read speeds from my ssd btrfs cache pool this way. But i can not keep using this loop trick as i need the port for a direct connection to my workstation to 10G and have no switch. I hoped to bypass the use of a switch. Only crazy thing i am thinking about is mounting the unraid share on the workstation over 10G then exporting from there and mount back in the VM, but that seems insane. I just need the bridge to work.
Hi Kenneth. Yes I link 2 unRAID servers together like this. You can even run a VM from a vdisk on the other unraid server (using nfs share)as speed is so good.
Well crap. I bought these cards to run on my Hackintosh, and the software isn't available for Big Sur. Guilty of not doing my research! Anybody else tried to get this working?
That's what I got, found out that two 2x10Gbps cards (HP NC552SFP) is cheaper then one Asus 10Gbps card (the one with one rj45 port) Those care are full duplex so 40Gbps network through put RX/TX. I was watching some reviews of the Asus one and it seems that it's overheating and basically typical retail quality, it's not bad, but definitively not server quality. For anybody that wants to get into server stuff, look at decommissioned server parts on ebay, it's usually cheap because they are selling "last gen stuff" just to recover a small % of what they paid to cover the cost of the new shiny stuff that us mortals can't afford (until we need to upgrade our amateur setup :) ). I'm not going to get a switch though, my idea is to have 1Gbps VNC and basically use my servers in the old fashion with simple low power "terminals"
6 years later and your video is still saving lives
I would love to see how you setup a ramdisk in UNRAID and in Windows 7. I also want to thank you so much for all of your informative videos, i have learned a lot.
catching up on my SI vids lately. you're slowly but surely becoming my hero.
Space, you're unraid videos are the best! I had done a 10gb home network some time ago, but decided to shut it down because the 10gb switch ate so much power to run. I tried various online tutorials on how to do peer to peer 10gb, but they were over complicated and never got it going. now I have peer 2 peer between my unraid server and my torrent PC at 10gb, and it was super simple to do. Thank you so much buddy. Keep up the great videos!
Thank you so much for this and your many other excellent tutorial videos.You've opened a whole new world of possibilities I'd previously thought to be far too complicated for me to attempt. I also really appreciate the quick history lesson and explanation about power consumption. While I now maintain 4 hackintoshes for my family, I used Macs for many years before that and always wondered why they never moved on from gigabit ethernet, when Apple are, if anything, normally far too quick to adopt new standards and drop old ones (that work perfectly well thank you!) Now I know!
I think a new 10gb video for unraid would make sense. a lot has changed
I like to do an active passive bond with 10gb primary and 1gb as failover have the bond interface assigned to the bridge.
Found this video currently troubleshooting why my 10gb network interface is missing in Unraid as I am moving from a Dell R510 that used a Melanox card to a Dell R730XD that has a built in dell 4 port card with 2x RJ45 and 2x SFP.
Unraid sees 1 of the two 10gb interfaces and it doesnt work, and I have link lights and its just all strange.
I really wonder if maybe this is bad hardware. I see the card in the bios and I get link lights but Unraid is just unable to make use of it.
Actually considering going back to my R510 since the goal of the R730 was to save power and they are within 10w of each other, and the R730 is no faster for what I use it for (Unraid only)
all i gotta say is never stop making videos. you are the best
Great video. I’m looking to do this with mine, seeing as this video is 5 years old are their any other budget NICs other than the Solarflair/HP Mellanox as these are quite hard to come by these days? Thanks
This is a great Tutorial. Now that I have more bandwidth I would like to see a video for UnRAID Kodi Headless Docker Setup. There is no videos or good guides out there. Thanks for your work.
Another great video! Thank you! Yes, please create a how-to create a RAM disk video. My Amiga came with a RAM disk built into the operating system and it was awesome!
aarrggghh! I remember! Commando, in-game music. I though I recognized that music at the beginning of this video. ;) Thanks for the nostalgic flashback to the local arcade, and for these very informative videos!
Hey Jeff. You are one of the few people that notice when i slip a bit of retro gaming music into a vid. thanks for watching :)
Ramdisk video please. I set this up on my 2 servers at home this summer. I am running Beyond Compare from a VM and using the 10GbE to backup my primary rootshare to the second server using Br1. Works great but i am limited to the write speed of my drives. it is nice, In windows 7 at least, the internal speed from Unraid to the Win7 VM is 10GbE right out of the gate. Excellent Video as always.
That's one of the best videos setting this subject out.
I notice you did not do the host files so that the name/IP resolved to the 10gbe by default.
...SFP+
Yeah damn it! I messed up there ! :)
No worries, it gave a good laugh. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
I thought you invented a new standard :)
lol awesome :)
Spf+ is the new sunscreen standard 😂
I'm not to a point where I need this, but man, it looks awesome. I'm still trying to figure out absolute basics. Like how do you even decide what IP ranges to use and stuff like that. Stayed for the whole video though, even if I am wholly unqualified! :P
Who is this guy??!! He knows everything about unRAID!!
Great videos as always, however have you looked into the new 10g switches or even an old enterprise switch to give 10g access across the network for multiple devices? I have an issue where my server and desktops are in different locations and I need switches on both sides to provide network connectivity, so two 10g switches will help give the properly connectivity.
Great video - turns a complicated topic into a very easy to understand one. A note that on 6.9-RC1 the "priority" setting comment doesn't appear to be valid anymore. I never had to make any changes to the settings apart from what was outlined in the video, and it even looks like attempts to access shares through the 1gbit connection have automatically routed through the 10GbE instead.
Not having had the earlier versions I have no idea when this changed, but it certainly makes it as close to plug and play as you could expect - it was about 30 minutes in total from installing to PCI-E slots, rebooting and updating the settings.
very useful video！ greetings from the Alpha Centauri
It all worked for me. Thank you so much =) Keep it up and greetings from Germany
Can you do a tutorial on how to use Wake On LAN to turn on the unRAID server remotely?
What kind of connector would you recommend? a normal cable (Cat 6 or HIgher) or a SFP+? The cards that I am looking at are XG-C100C and XG-C100F
i would love to see a video about replacing your parity drive with a bigger one.
Do the two networks (1G and 10G) need to be on different subnets? If I'm daisy-changing my internet to my PC via a network bridge on the unRAID server, can I not keep them all on the same 192.168.0.xxx subnet?
Yes
10:20 I'm so new to this, so I'm stuck. Is there some kind of rhyme or reason or method to how you came up with this number? Do I need to match some of these numbers to something else in my system? or can I just make anything up? Thanks for your help.
It's just a random IP address. I personally use 10.0.0.x for my normal LAN and 10.0.10.x for my 10GbE.
Did you ever make the RAM disk video?
Hey there, first of all, what a great info packed video. I am wondering though could you connect an unraid server to a Small 10gbe switch and have say 3 or 4 pcs be able to be able to have direct access to the server without the internet ?
Great video. I recently just did this myself, and am very happy with it. The one problem I've had, is that on unraid, my plex docker now thinks it's IP is the one on the 10Gb direct link. I think this is causing everything from plex to transcode as though it's remote access. Any thoughts? Thanks!
I have a couple questions.
1. Do you have any issues with the 10G cards disconnecting from unraid (I think due to thermal limits or something, at least that's my issue; Chenbro NR12000 and hp nc523sfp)
2. Is windows 7 the same as windows 10 setup in the video? I'll have to try and figure it out after I figure out how to get the 10g card to work on the unraid machine.
3. Would that setup with local static IPs work through a switch for example, my home network is 192.168.1.x, say I make my 10G 168.192.1.x, would the switch be able to determine what's what or do I need a designated switch?
I'm only running windows (7, 8.1, and some 10) and Unraid; no mac or other linux (for now, I haven't gotten the time to sit down and try to learn a linux).
Thanks for the video! Amazing as usual. I love all of your videos! Please keep them coming!
Hi SpaceOne, Thank you so much for your vidéos. For info I bought 2x Asus Xg-c100c (86€ on Amazon) works like a charm on Catalina, Windows ans unraid without drivers. keep safe
Hey SpaceInvader One, any chance you can do something on 10Gbe multichannel and unraid, would love to use 2 x 10gbe nics in peer to peer between the unraid server and windows 10 machine to fully use Nvme m.2 drive speeds @20Gbe. Currently have a 2 port HP NC523SFP in unraid and 2 mellanox-x2 cards that can go into my windows 10 machine. Have you done anything like this or know it to work?
2020 and still remains a very nice informative video. I wonder how would it be possible to change 10gb card's options in Unraid for better performance, for instance to enable jambo frames. In windows if you go to configure or advanced there are plenty of stuff to change like
At adapter properties go to configure or advanced
interrupt moderation ->disabled
RX Interrupt Moderation Type ->Adaptive
jumpo packet ->9000
RSS Base Processor Number ->7
RSS Maximun Processor Number ->63
Maximum number of RSS Processors->8
Receive Buffers ->4096
Send Buffers ->4096
Maximum number of RSS Queues ->4
Receive Side Scaling ->Enabled
Also what would be the mess if you go to the hosts windows file (c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts) and declare 10gb card's ip and the Unraids name. Then 10gb connection wouldn t work at all because it eould try to resolve by name and since no DNS it wouldhang there? Or that move would reduce the speed from 10gb to 1gb because of the different route (modem/router) which is 1gb
PS Seen some videos that did that naming in hosts but I dont know if that would require a 10gb switch also that it would have been connected to the main modem/router and the name then it wouldnt matter.
You should add affiliate links to products you cover, I buy stuff you recommend and if you had an affiliate link, you'd get money to support your channel.
Thanks Redgrin yes I think thats a good idea thank you.
Unraid doesn't support SPF cards or just these specific Solarflare ones?
Awesome video like Always; I don't see how to make a Ramdisk in Unraid, a little topic about it?
Hi - just played around my system based upon your video, which was excellent by the way. My Unraid server has a Broadcom card in it - 2 connections at 10GB and 2 at 1GB. The two 1 gig ports aren't connected to anything - one of the 10GB ports is connected to my network switch and the other to a windows server . I wasn't sure which port was which in UnRAID so I set each port with a static address and pinged each from my windows server - I expected only 2 to work but all 4 did even though bonding and bridging is off on all. Why would this be ? - also did a test copying as you did and only achieved 170MB/Sec ?
hey this is completely off topic but do you think you could possibly make a video on how to setup a network boot (pxe) on unraid? thanks keep it up 😁
Is the solarflare now working on unraid , i am planning to make this upgrade as well.
you are a hero! thank you
Great video man, thanks so much!
thank you for your effort!
So, I can see this being useful on FreeNas and other RAID/ZFS based systems. But is it really worth it on unRAID? You're only gonna get the read speed of the disk the file is stored on, except if you pull files from an SSD cache array. And read speeds of the most commonly used drives (3TB WD Red for example) rarely exceed 150MB/s which is only about 30MB/s faster than the 1Gbit cap.
Am I missing something?
Yeah you are right that on unRAID it will only transfer from the servers fastest disk. But if you are writing files to the server from a workstation and the share is cache enabled then it will write to the speeds of the ssd.
Also this video if for setting up 10gbe on windows and osx as well as unRAID :)
Not only that but if you're reading from multiple disk simultaneously. You should see a benefit as well.
Or you might be reading/writing to an SSD pool on unRAID ;-)
You can easily set up an UnRaid share to "live" on the cache drive, and then use SSD on both ends, get 300-500 GB/sec Doing this I can transfer the Win10 install ISO literally faster than I can get a screenshot taken of it. (or even better NVME drive on both ends!). Or more practically perhaps, play a game on Windows (or run a big program) that you store on your NAS cache drive. Then your Windows drive can be much smaller/cheaper. In my case, it allows my Win machine (and Hackintosh) to be in mini PCs and the NAS in the "big box". My UnRaid box can be a slow but hugely multicore (dual CPU) Xeon machine but still use fast i7's in the Win/Mac rigs for my apps and games. And we're talking
I do something like this. My unRaid box runs all the computers in the house via in-home streaming boxes and little raspberry pi type stuff. The cache array is 9gb/sec reads and 6gb/sec writes for sequential data. And all the GPUs.
Just Superb! thanks for your effort and time.
Excellent video, made me subscribe to your channel! Im also a avid hackintosh user and this video was very educational as Im looking in to setting up 10gb network for our small video editing studio in Armenia all running macOS. Can you do a video on how set up a 10gb network switch/router to have a few machines access a NAS server that is 10Gb copper. Its so confusing on what to use and what works on hacintoshes and what doesn’t. Thanks mate! Looking forward to your next upload.
Hi Neekolos. Thanks for subscribing. Yes I actually have a video planned on making a 10gbe switch which will do just what you are looking for. I am just needing to order some parts and should hopefully get the video done this month. :)
Spaceinvader One looking forward to it.
Great!! I am also looking into building an unRAID server for Studio Storage with multiple HaKINTOSH and Windows 10 graphics workstations. Same here confusing about Raid Controllers, Gigabit Switch with SFP+ and Cat6
you could make use of the hosts file on win 10 just add your ip and your hostname of server
Super video Ed, and made me want something I didnt know I wanted :-) Any response from LT on including the Solarflare linux driver in unRAID ?
Yes, Tom has already put the solarflare drivers in the lastest rc! 6.4.0_rc15e released today :)
Where do you find solarflare drivers for win 10. The drivers I have cause bsod
I'm testing 40gbe connectx-3 cards.... dual port... I believe you can bridge the two ports so you can daisy chain the network... I will buy a switch if this doesn't work...
Should be able to configure the HOST file on client to force it to use the 10GbE connection when using server name.
why did you use two different subnets for the sfp connections?
Great video, subscribed!
So, I bought the Solarflare SFN5122F SFP+ Card. But it doesn't fit into my motherboard. I'm using a Z370 Aorus gaming 7. It doesn't fit into my case (It's to narrow), and won't lock into the motherboard PCIe slot. I could get it to work if I screwed off the back plate, but it sits loose.
Are there adapters, or do I need to go with a completely different card. I'd be grateful for your insight....
Cheers,
Killian
Hi Killian. So i am guessing that you have bought the small form factor version. I dont think that you will be able to buy an adaptor. I would sell the card you have and buy the full size version.
@@SpaceinvaderOne Thanks for your reply!
I have the same Solarflare card (SFN5122F SFP+) but it is not recognised in Windows 10. I downloaded the driver from the Solarflare website, and it installed without a problem. Nothing appears in device manager though (before or after), and it doesn't show up in network adapters. Haven't tried another OS yet, but will try OSX or a Win Server install when I can. Anyone have any ideas?
How would I go about using this on a docker container? I am trying to set up a lancache (from the excellent lancache-bundle container) for Steam and it worked fine over 1Gb. However, when I use br2 and set the correct subnet (1Gb LAN is on 10.0.0.x and 10Gb peer-to-peer is on 10.0.10.x) and IP address (10.0.10.1 for the Unraid NIC, 10.0.10.2 for the Windows 10 NIC, and 10.0.10.3 for the docker container) it doesn't seem to function anymore.
My theory is that since the 10Gb network has no access to the internet, and the lancache needs to download stuff from the Steam servers, it's unable to do so since it's on the different subnet and has no access to the internet. Is there a way to access the container on the 10Gbe network but have it connect to the internet in some way as well?
Is this a case in which a switch would be required so that I could access the internet over the 10GbE cable (let's say a 4-port switch, one is the port coming from the router with internet with a RJ45 to SFP+ transciever, with the two others connecting to the server and client)? I'd love your input on this as I don't want to just spend money on a switch then later realize I either didn't need it or it wouldn't fix my issue.
Also, you should totally make a video on the lancache-bundle container! It's a fantastic container that is really useful for saving disk space on my client computer, as all my games just sit on my server and download at hundreds of megabytes a second (if they're on the array, if they're on the cache then it's potentially 500MB/s+ depending on what device it's on, SATA or NVMe) if I want to play a game. For now I have to be content with it being limited to 125MB/s on Gigabit (which is still 10x faster than doing it over the internet!), but I'd like to be able to use my NVMe drive and 10GbE network to download at upwards of 1.25GB/s.
19:20 You are saying 8320 gigabit per second, but the note in the video is showing 8320 megabit per second ...
What do you think about Solarflare SFN5322F Dual-Port 10GbE SFP+? Could i use in pfSense router? it is available in uk now
I use it in osx. Havent tried in pfsense natively. I use mine bridged in a virtual pfsense. If I get a chance i will see if pfsense has driver support for it and report back.
That would be great to confirm, i am struggling to buy 6-8 of them (SFN5122F SFP+) to make SFP+ switch. The other interesting question would be, how many PCIe card could i pass trough to an unRaid VM? According to my previous experiment, it was 3GPU/VM. If i want to put pfSence in VM, i will need more for sure otherwise i need to do bear-metal. (Planned MB: SuperMicro X10SRA-F)
Huge Respect for the useful tutorials!
Hello! i need to speedup my imaging browsing on my unraid server.
I want to buy solarflare for my win/hack machine and mellanox for my unraid server.
That works?
Do you have a similar video for 10GBethernet not using spf, just cat 6?
Intel X520-540 or x550 cards.
dumb question is there a need for a cross over cable or can you directly connect them via SFP cable//
I can get my cards to see each other and ping but windows 10 wont connect to any share on unraid and was wondering of that could be a factor
No you dont need a crossover cable. Try mapping a network drive from windows to the server ie \\192.168.0.199\myshare thanks for watching :)
@@SpaceinvaderOne hi yes did that, it either times out with an error of firewall on the other end could be preventing the connection (not the exact wording) or a BSOD.. so maybe its a driver problem on the windows side (using a chelsio t320) . I will source some later mellanox cards and give them ago-
great videos btw .. i always give u the thumbs up
Is it possible to do this with 2 RJ45 10Gbe cards and a cat 6a cable?
Hi, great videos like always.. ive tried this but for some reason.. i can see the 10gb card in System Devices but in network settings... im not seeing the card there to setup the IP address.
im trying to connect to UNRAID system together. one system has already 2 card and one has 4 cards but they dont show the 10gb card..
any ideas?
Now 40 gbe cards are cheap as dirt.... and qsfp+ cables can be had cheap... Just bought a 25m active cable for less than $100...Moving my new media server, which I'm building atm.. into the basement because it's a 2u beast that sounds like a jet engine that I bought for $350 off ebay..Dual xeon with 24gb of ram and 12x3tb sas drives.. Connectx-3 cards can be bought from anywhere from $30-$100... and they support rdma which is crazy fast.... Don't think unraid supports rdma, but not sure...
Is there a way to do this over cat5e instead of sfp+ while keeping similar costs? As my house already has cat5e runs, and my server is in a different room to my PC.
you'd have to get a 10gbe switch and sfp+ to copper 10gbe rj45 adapter.
Cat5e is not rated for 10GbE. Cat6a is ideal, Cat6 works at shorter ranges. But not Cat5e.
why not use the mellanox in win-linux-unraid box and the solarf in osx one?
Its cool but i have 4 windows systems in a room with a unraid attached along with a Boss computer 30 meter apart. All of them are connected through a gigabit switch with cat 6 cable.
As with you said cat 6 can transfer better bandwidth of 10gbe, can you explain how exactly that works? so that i can upgrade my system easily.
To use 10gbe over cat 6 you need a different network adaptor than i use in the video. Something like a Intel X540-T2 Dual Port 10Gbit RJ45 PCI-e X8 Adapter You will also need a 10 gbe switch
On the bright side, enthusiast motherboards are starting to come with 10gbe built in or with a daughter card (almost all x399 mobos, for example have this). Hopefully this will push adoption and get us some cheaper 10gbe switches/routers.
Do you have a video for how to setup the ramdisk on unraid?
I would also be interested in seeing this, plus the various uses.
Me too! Fantastic videos. Many thanks!
Please do a video on RAM disk!
I have a VM running on unraid. Anyway I could use 10gb to connect via VNC?
I really wish I could figure out why my SMB is so slow. I have tried various thing sand I'm always getting around ~100 MB/s most of the time, sometimes it jumps up to 150-250, but it is nowhere near constant
I do have good NVMe cache drives, and a switch capable of SFP+ 10G, as well as a a 10G card in both my windows PC and my server
你好我来自中国，请问SFN5122F SFP +这个卡你在WIN10专业版，上面怎么驱动它工作的，我的SFN5122F SFP +怎么插上无法驱动和识别。希望能得到你的帮助谢谢。
Hello, I am from China, may I ask SFN5122F SFP + this card you are in WIN10 Pro, how to drive it to work, my SFN5122F SFP + plug in can not be driven and recognized. I hope to get your help, thank you.
Please make a video of 40Gb Ethernet connection for unraid
Wonder about something this but for a laptop?
Are you able to get that Solarflare card running in MacOs Catalina?
Mine works in Big Sur without adding drivers. Has problems waking from sleep sometimes though.
I followed your guide to this day and it seemed good, but I bought this card and it was not compatible with Catalina. Sad to see the sfp+ standard start to fade. :(. Would anyone know how to make this work with these drivers? Thanks!
Hi Ed I set up the 10gb ok but when I map a drive in windows to unraid 10gb address it asks for network credentials for the 10g address, I only have a password for 1g address. any ideas?
I can't find the linux drivers for the mellanox card...
Only found your channel a few weeks ago and it's my bible for Unraid, so thanks a million mate. Quick question though, so I am trying to do the same but between my Unraid server and my Ubuntu box. I managed to get all the unraid setup in, and I thought I had the Ubuntu part working too, but I cannot see the unraid server or map to it. Any suggestions?
You should just be able to mount a share on ubuntu to unraid. Try smb. smb://x.x.x.x/share make sure the x.x.x.x is the IP of the Unraid servers 10gbe adapter. Hope this helps. Thanks, for watching :)
by using static dhcp reservation and briging the 1gb and 10gb nic in windows u can use the same subnet and remouve the redundent 1gm cable on the server but the drawbac is that the windows needs to stay on all the time for the server to be able to comunicat o the network i dont know if u can do this in reverse in unraid basic ly it turn the nic into a pastru switsh
What's the cheapest RJ45 switch available in the UK these days?
Although it seems this is unnecessary if there are only two 10 GbE devices. But I would need to have a completely different network range for access over 10 GbE?
as soon as i try to make the map network drive on windows 10 it asks for network credentials....??? no combination of account and password is working. im stumped and google options all dont work
can you recommend a DAC for these nics?
What about doing this in 2020 with RJ45?
for me my 1gb and my 10gb have the same mac address so when i follow the steps for setting up unraid when i do it and hit apply i can no longer get in to the web page for unraid ? any idea why this is ?
Hi +Spaceinvader One, love your unraid videos! question...do you have a line on any single port 10gbe sfp+ cards for a decent price with a low profile bracket? my unRAID server is in a 2U 12 bay hotswap case and space is tight I am only going to be linking my two unraid servers together one is media and general storage other is my home automation and VM server just want my VM on one server to be able to transfer files to other nice and fast....Keep up the great work love from Canada!
Just installed the Solarflare Card, but can't find any Mac OS Drivers on the Solarflare Homepage. Any ideas?
The card is working for me without adding drivers in Big Sur. Has problems walking from sleep sometimes though.
I had TrueNas running then I tried this video. It didnt work. Now I cant get back into TrueNas. This is super complex and frustrating.
Is it possible to bond both of the 10gb links for a 20gb link?
I don't think you will be able to bond them and get a performance increase without a switch. With a switch you will likely only receive a performance increase by bonding 2 on the server side but not on the client side. When you download files from one computer to another you typically will be limited by a single connections max speed. However if you have 2 computers pulling from the same server and the server is actually capable of outputting more than 1200MB/s then you will indeed benefit from bonding the channels on the server side.
To benefit from bonding on the client side you would have to transfer files using the newer versions of SMB. Sometimes even with SMB on both sides I have seen where you don't get the expected gain. For example sometimes I don't see the 450+MB/s transfer speeds expected from a 4 port gigabit network card even though the switch is fed by 2 SFP+ ports that are bonded and the NAS is capable of sustained 600MB/s speeds and multiple minute long bursts of 1800MB/s. There is even an array on the nas that is comprised of (6) 1TB SSDs and even pulling from that sometimes I only see 300-350MB/s on my 4 port gigabit cards.
Anyways I would read about making use of those 4 port cards because it will give some insight into the troubles of making use of multiple high speed connections over SMB
Bonding allows two clients to both saturate a 10Gb each- it will not let one client have a 20Gb link.
Hey Spaceinvader One. Again tnx for this video ad it pushed me to finaly dive into the 10GB world. But i am hitting a massive problem. I can pass thru my dual 1GB adapter in the unraid server perfectly fine to the OSX Sierra VM. I flashed it so i can use the SmallTree drivers. I get speeds as expected for unraid. BUT, the big BUT is that if i i use bridging instead , so use the vmxnet3 driver in OSX , it only reports 1GB and speeds are limited to 1GB. This is true for a 1GB card based unraid bridge as well as an actual 10GB card based unraid bridge. Did you even managed to get the virtual card ever to declare itself as 10G ?
For Windows VM's it seems all good and even a 1GB based bridge works as a 10GB virtual card when accessing unraid shares. And thats the reason i need it for.
I tricked it to test by plugging port 2 into port 1 and having port 1 in unraid and port 2 physical passed to the VM and i get 400mb/s read speeds from my ssd btrfs cache pool this way.
But i can not keep using this loop trick as i need the port for a direct connection to my workstation to 10G and have no switch.
I hoped to bypass the use of a switch.
Only crazy thing i am thinking about is mounting the unraid share on the workstation over 10G then exporting from there and mount back in the VM, but that seems insane. I just need the bridge to work.
could this be done with two uraid systems.thanks
Hi Kenneth. Yes I link 2 unRAID servers together like this. You can even run a VM from a vdisk on the other unraid server (using nfs share)as speed is so good.
19:17 "8,320 gigabits/s" that's a lot...it's about a terabyte/s I guess you made a mistake
Yeah should have said 8320 megabits but in my defence, I did write it correctly on the screen lol :)
It’s SFP not SPF. Small form factor pluggable
Oops yeah your right :)
Yes, do the RAM disk video
Well crap. I bought these cards to run on my Hackintosh, and the software isn't available for Big Sur. Guilty of not doing my research! Anybody else tried to get this working?
Yes I did
But I don’t get it to work on windows
@@bankangle9742 I have it working, but the card messed up sleep on my Hackintosh.
@@deghimon Hi Jeff, I didn`t look into this yet, because I don`t activate sleep on my hackintosh.
Why stop at 10? Go for 40gb... Cards are reasonable and switches are too...
That's what I got, found out that two 2x10Gbps cards (HP NC552SFP) is cheaper then one Asus 10Gbps card (the one with one rj45 port)
Those care are full duplex so 40Gbps network through put RX/TX.
I was watching some reviews of the Asus one and it seems that it's overheating and basically typical retail quality, it's not bad, but definitively not server quality.
For anybody that wants to get into server stuff, look at decommissioned server parts on ebay, it's usually cheap because they are selling "last gen stuff" just to recover a small % of what they paid to cover the cost of the new shiny stuff that us mortals can't afford (until we need to upgrade our amateur setup :) ).
I'm not going to get a switch though, my idea is to have 1Gbps VNC and basically use my servers in the old fashion with simple low power "terminals"
Mellanox SUX for Windows
dude its sfp not spf
SFP+.......
18:56 i think i just cheated on my wife.
3 minutes into the vid: If you're an average user, you can stop watching this video now.