I play STRONGHOLD for the first time! ► 1 Hour of Learning & Gameplay
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- Can you believe I've never played any Stronghold game? This is the first time I'm trying it. This week I'm trying Stronghold HD, Anno 1404, and Theme Hospital and the video that gets the best response will be made into a series. Get Stronghold (or any other game) on GOG using this referral link to support: af.gog.com/en/... Thank you!
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First time playing Stronghold! After this is Anno 1404 then Theme Hospital. If the videos/streams get enough attention then I'll make them into series. Get Stronghold (or any other game) on GOG using this referral link to support: af.gog.com/en/game/stronghold?as=1715648857 Thank you!
GamerZakh You're correct. The desert version is the second game in the series Stronghold Crusader. There's an HD version of that as well and the first title that contained multiplayer mode. Stronghold 1 got multiplayer later with the HD release.
Also, even if you end up not having a series on this, I can send some files for a future city-building doctor episode.
consider me interested!
@JuriAmari Yeah, looking it up it looks like Crusader is the one my friend was playing. And it's interesting, is Stronghold viable for a city-building doctor? Hmm, I think I have to learn more before I can figure that out.
Great choice of game, Stronghold is easily one of my top-3 favourite games of all time.
I love how these past decade games give very great and well explained tutorial that you can optionally do.
And I love your clean interaction with your stream viewers and listening to their advice. Glad I can find this channel!
Thanks! I try my best.
Finally, a game that i'm better at than Zakh (The Stronghold Crusader basically but they're all similar).
You'll get the hang of it pretty fast. It's actually my favourite RTS. You will see why as you learn the tricks. Just click and right-click EVERYTHING.
Advice:
1)Build the granary on the opposite side of the keep from the stockpile. That way bread production will be streamlined to the max. I don't know how this game has in but Stronghold Crusader had optimal bread production with 3/1/8 (3 farms, 1 mill, 8 bakeries). Having granary just "next door" means the only "dead-time" is farmers bringing in the crops.
2)Learn the hotkeys. It will save a lot of time and frustration due to wrongly clicking in the midst of some battles. CTRL+Num to group troops (and hit the Num to select them afterwards), M for market, G for Granary, H (I think?) for Keep, B for barracks (as you can see they're mostly the first letter of the building).
3)Workers respawn easily, so don't feel too bad for losing 1-2. Of course, a siege can mean losing every single worker and getting your economy wrecked, so watch out for that. But a few workers are nothing to fuss about (this sounds so mean, doesn't it?).
4)ALWAYS use spacebar for the walls. ALWAYS. It's horrible to use up several hundred of a resource and have the enemy just waltz into your castle through a little hole. Also for tightly constructed castles (which is not really recommended in case of siege, as fires are easily your worst enemy in this game, but it's sometimes required).
5)Maybe this is not going to be the case too soon but please be aware of the resources that are depletable. Overhunting or heavy deforestation can leave you resourceless.
6)Further on, learn the pros/cons of all the troops. I have had the cheapest units in the game save my behind several times and i've had literally legions of troops obliterated (both mine and enemies') by cheaper and better used soldiers. (Quick example: 200 crossbows at the right bottleneck can kill over 1000 melee troops - including fast-moving troops).
7)Use the instant effects of the fear factor to your advantage. Also the other instant effects, such as dismissing workers (which provides large amounts of spare villagers that can be quickly trained into troops if necesarry).
Keep this series up, you will get the hang of it and will love this game. Also, it's been 2 years today since i finished C3, with your help. Thank you for that.
I love some of the easter egg lines in this game. If you play for 2 hours you hear. "what about a snack my Liege?" Later, unsure about how long, you hear "You have been playing for a very long time Sire" Play when the clock strikes midnight: "It's getting kind of late Sire. Aren't you tired?" And one line I only heard once, I was playing on December 25th. "Merry Christmas Sire".
Have anyone heard any other lines than those in this game?
Such a good game. One of my favorite!
Ah, Stronghold and all of its hidden little things... It'd really be your style.
As for some general tips:
- the game correctly gives the advantage to archers who are on a higher position
- you can manually order the Lord to kill an enemy (even if it's a mere wolf), but use that rarely. You can't tell him to move to a specific spot, unless you're targeting a spot inside the keep (except for the very basic Saxon Hall type). You can use the latter to defend him from intruders while having soldiers closer to the entrance..
- a steady production of food can be made with: 3 wheat farms, 1 or 2 windmills, and at least 8 bakeries.
- if the mission allows you to and you have the resources and space, try to make a varied food production (e.g. not just apples or bread), as certain missions like to set disasters that affect a certain farm type, sometimes very often. These are always set to affect something you already have just to make things challenging, unlike Neptune's rage in Caesar III that occurs even if you never touched the water ;). Luckily, this does not affect hunters.
- in the military campaign, you'll also have the sort-of obligation to maintain military production alongside the standard economy. The workers in charge of this are slow (particularly the fletcher who creates bows and crossbows), so keep their workshops and the armoury as close to the stockpile to bypass this.
- the marketplace is your friend! It can save you from the cobwebs in the treasury.
- you can set brutal taxes as long as you balance it out with food rations, religion and inns (which is pretty realistic :D )
Some of these tips won't be applicable in the early military missions where your techtree isn't fully unlocked, but you'll get there eventually. You can also try the Free Build mode (in the economic campaign menu) to familiarize yourself with what each building does and how.
Please support this here and on twitch guys! The first stream the other day was great to watch and would love to see zakh play the whole game. :)
Haha! Never seen stronghold either. Just gotta love those tree animations XD (edit1) After a while of laughing at the trees I gotta say I actually really love the art style. The little dogs with the hunters and all! Just amazing attention to detail! This is what's so great in old games. They can't do everything perfectly but the stuff they know, they'll go all the way and try their best to make good games even if it's just these little things that really don't matter but probably took forever to code. Nowdays the hunting would be an addon for 14,99 and the dogs as a cosmetic DLC only for preorder customers 4,99. :(
30:55 Deer leaving town in an ordely fashion.
More of this! would love a series on this great game Zakh :-)
Was a nice strea, had to opt out but I hope you reached that 100 viewers! We were close to 890 when I left.
Nice! I love this series! The music in these games is fantastic! At least until after Stronghold 2... things got screwy at that point.
Most of my memories are from Stronghold: Crusader unfortunately. Even though there's not much of a campaign, I love the crusader trail!
WOW, first time!. Stronghold is one of my best games ever it has much more to that game.
Cant wait for stream of Anno1404 also great game, so many options, so many resources. It is shame so little players played it.
One of the best game I have ever played, those trees, songs, gameplay etc. They still couldn't made worth to play sequel game.
Fun fact: the feature to completely flatten everything (spacebar) was an idea by German games magazine GameStar. Also, you can see a giant influx of the Sierra city builders (voice bits of the people, fully visible stockpile, evolving houses, wall mechanics)
Growing up, Stronghold and Praetorians were my favorite games, along with Ceasar III. The Big Bad Wolf mission on hardest difficulty had me trying for so damn long!
Nice!! Played this game a year ago (not full campaign but 3/4 I'ld say).
Its a nice medieval rts, for its time it has a nice strategy system. Especially the arrows (every arrow's flying direction is calculated, so a physics engine more or less).
And nice ANNO sounds awesome, too! Only played 2070 but really enjoyed it.
19:17 What?? It's really interessting to see that the map is a more UK-shaped map.. The german version I played (still the HD version from steam) had a map which showed the sillouette of germany.. pretty interessting if you ask me..
That is interesting, I played a version from Canada and had the same UK map as he does. I wonder how many different maps they made or if it was just the two, one for UK/NA and one for EU.
Idk about the other games, but I know that hunters in stronghold 1 will shoot at enemy troops almost as well as regular archers, so not only do they add diversity in food, but they also help ever so slightly with defense
1) Build a fuckton of crossbowmen
2) Build a fuckton of catapults
3) ???
4) Profit
Nebojsa Urosevic find out you can't build crossbow men yet and the wolf is attacking you....fuck
One of earliest computer entertainment titles to use verbal holiday greetings in game. "Merry Christmas my liege!"
This was probably my favorite game as a teenager...still play it!
YES! You finally played it
Glad you liked it!
you dont need to build random hovels to have excess population sitting by the campfire doing nothing! They will just eat away your food supplies. Build houses only when you need to expand (ie building new workshops)
You will love getting past the pigs fort XD
Ugh I still get stuck on that level when I go back to play it again lol, easily one of the most frustrating RTS levels of all time.
Just played it for the first time yesterday. Agony!
NKirkwall Sadly in the end stronghold becomes a very easy game if you know what to do I only had trouble with the opening levelling of the rat (the one where you have to save that lord form the huge rat attack ) then after I beat the rat I found the snake very easy. The first pig level was too easy I think then ...the pigs fort.... I stop playing for months because of that level but then after that level i did not have to restart a level until I had to kill the pig and wolf. It is a good game but I found it to easy going in some parts.
Used to spend hours in freebuild as a kid making an "impregnable" Castle only to never have it attacked
Not sure if this was mentioned in the comments but in Stronghold you can actually order your Lord to flight. You cannot order him to move however, unlike in Crusader. Of course do so sparingly, as if he dies you lose. But he can be of help in desperate situations!
Thanks for clarifying! I wasn't too sure about that.
your first take on Stronghold... Oh my you were a mess ! I hope you got better in the series. Knowing you, you will get better 🙂
I did beat the campaign haha, no not that bad.
Stronghold is a cool game. Played most of them.
At the start of the first combat mission: When you realize, that some age old games actually had more content than you would imagine....
Sadly nowadays its unique to see a game that is not degraded its genre. :(
I used to have the demo to Stronghold!! But never played the full game. I remember it being a nice and relatively innovative RTS
When I was a small laddy, I played hours of AoE. I sometimes touched Stronghold, and the first game, I remember having my entire army of 10 people killed by wolves...
Haha sounds brutal. Those wolves are stronger than I expected.
Its not a crusader "only" version cuz the HD version mixed both the original and the expansion which is the Stronghold Crusader!
That giant green CLICK HERE arrow is far less obnoxious in high res version :)
OMG i love that game!. Check crusader!
GamerZakh space bar is usefull for when your building for example walls... it let's you see if there are any gaps... recomendations... avoid diagonal wall building. the diagonal walls sometime's get bugged and enemys get inside trougth the joints.
Ah thanks for the warning, old games tend to have problems like that haha. I could double up the diagonal walls so there aren't gaps.
Always plan for at least a double thick wall as siege engines can quickly punch a hole and let enemy troops in.
A key for your popularity is to give extra foods rashions to your people and also tease the tax above the max level .... More the food u have , more you can rate tax.
more stronghold pls and anno :)
really good game, but hard... i played it 1 year ago, i liked it... you said lords of the realm 2, it would be a good stream to do ;) thanks for video!!
you actually did pretty good. Most people have an angry aneurism and quit when they start this game xD. Maybe it's because you're familiar with other RTSes
Haha thank you. I did play Lords of the Realm 2 before, that probably helped a bit.
I was just thinking of replaying this game today, stop reading my mind Zakh, that's not cool!
Just kidding, do it all you want!
If you need to set food rations to an unpopular level, you can lower the taxes to balance out, later also 'instruments of fear' or religion help you keep the happiness.
Usually, never build to much buildings of one type, keep an eye on free workers.
Also, you placing should be:
Houses by the castle - protected, free space for storage fields, productions between storage and final storage (the armory) and the castle walls could be way out as first line of defence and another for the production and houses.
Thanks for the tips! Will work on those.
I'm glad I watched this video. I started the economics missions and found it too hard
Strong hold introduce to rts games my big brother showed me the game and I fell in love with rts games
Advice no. 1: start making archers as soon as possible!
Learnt on mission 3, invasions come faster than expected.
GamerZakh sadly mission 3 is only the start *flashback of attacking the snake and pig* only the start
Yeah I feel like I've barely scratched the surface. Haven't even planted orchards or made cheese yet haha.
Have you played Patrician III before? I'm bad at it, but I love it.
Seeing that you like strategy games, maybe you should try. I'm not saying you should play and upload it to YT but, maybe, give it a try :)
Great vid, as always!
Thanks! I've heard of it but never played it. I probably should check it out.
You absolutely don't need all your buildings inside your castle, and it's not the way the game is meant to be played, especially if your land is small. Woodcutters and hunters camps are very expendable cheap buildings, you can have them outside your walls..their workers need to go outside the gates to work anyway
Id love more of this!
Damn You Boy, I will Have Revenge!
Hunters posts or anything creating food to store in the granary function best closer to the granary.
I was a little girl when I watched my elder brother playing Stronghold
Haha awesome.
The desert was stronghold crusader which is my favorite stronghold
Yeah that must've been the one my friend was playing. I heard it's got great multiplayer.
Actually Zeus has a great tutorial and explained all things u need to know ;)
Beat this back in 05 when I first played it. Very addictive game back then. Stronghold 3 is good but not as addictive as this classic original.
Yeah I always see people talk about the original for singleplayer and Crusader for multiplayer.
u have to do the military campaign man
Thinking about it, just watching how many people are interested in watching this video first.
Perhaps Celtic kings: Rage of war sometime in the future?
Any chance of a full playthrough of this after Anno 1404?
Sure, I'm feeling like doing it and it got good views. Anno 1404 is only 8 missions, so I'll be done recording that soon actually.
I love how Zakh keeps comparing Stronghold to Impression Games like Caesar III and Lords of the Realm 2. Little does he know, that all these games were programmed by the same developers.
I can't remember if I knew that at the time. I do know it now for sure. Firefly Studios have reached out to me and kept good relations with me for their newer projects because of my Caesar 3 coverage.
That is awesome.
This games only flaw is the sequel (SH:Crusader), a far better game
Why not economic?
Cause it's damn much harder.
Haha reading the objectives did sort of indicate that. Good thing chat warned me.
i love play game stronghold im back play stronghold 1
Great game. I played much :)
Wonderful game!
Watched this when I was deciding if I should buy stronghold or not. Let’s just say about 5 minutes in I bought the game haha
Glad I could help! It is one of my favourite old games of the ones I never played growing up.
@@GamerZakh Fair enough. I bought it today, downloaded, and instantly played for like 5 hours straight!
You only really need three hunters and wood cutters to start
Ah thanks, it's unclear what's a good amount. Was just following the tutorial in this.
No worries, love the game hope to see more of it!
I start whit spam of wood cutters then i build rest.
Oh no. You have way too many long letsplays and other series I feel like I'd enjoy immensely but there's like 500 hours of content and I don't really have time for everything ;( I almost hope I don't get a job for next summer so I can just sit here and watch all these awesome "oldish" games.
its great game I have cd version still I also have steam version to
gj chat! everything i yelled at the youtube video happend. :D
Haha, it just takes some time for the lesson to be learnt.
I surround my granary with apple orchards... for military the crossbow and pikemen are the best units...
Ramon Vicente Vallesteros Ricafrente The orchards come so late. But they are saviors when they arrive. :) (unless the witches come by, then pray your huntsmen are not too far or your crops don't have pestilence.)
Ramon Vicente Vallesteros Ricafrente In terms of military, I love my crossbows and macemen. I have a soft spot for the pikemen because of the hilarious lines they deliver when they make the moat.
"Great use of our time lord" xD
stronghold!!
If you want to get partnered on twitch I'd recommend you to link to your twitch page on youtube
It is linked, unless I missed something?
So I've spent 2 minutes repeatedly checking your video description below this video. I don't see your twitch link anywhere.
on youtubes i mean
Don’t put your hunters in the center of your town
Yeah that's a bad idea haha
I liked the original Lords of the Realm better than Lords II, personally. But that's just me.
I never really played it, I just know III was the worst haha.
@@GamerZakh I know I'm coming to this video late, but I just discovered you. LOL I usually just fortify the river crossings, but you probably figured that one out by now.
@@anthonyhargis6855 Hey that's awesome! And late advice is still useful. I'm still no master at this game and Warlords is coming out next year, so I'm still learning.
@@GamerZakh Well Zakh, if you're under the age of twenty-five . . . you went to school with my grandson. LOL My kids educated my about computer games -- never had any such thing back in the 60's and 70's -- and I like the "me versus the computer" game, versus that multi=player stuff. So, I'm needing a bit of education on some of these. (I found your city builder over on Disccord) Breaking the Siege is beating right now. So . . . I'm currently watching you do it. LOL I'm enjoying your channels.
@@anthonyhargis6855 Thanks! I'm not that young though, turned 30 this year, so I fully experienced the 90s and the pre-internet era. Got into computers early though by 93-94 because my dad was into tech and thought they'd be important.
What the Heck... How could you possibly spent so long on the tutorial, don't tell me you failed. Lol
It's literally my first time playing and I have an audience watching me.
@@GamerZakh lol I know but it's just sounds crazy to me since I've blasted through the tutorial and after finishing it I filled the map with buildings in around 1 hour XD. I never thought it would take so long by actually letting the tutorial guy talk lol.
Oh and since I got your attention! Consider playing Command & Conquer Red Alert 2! Its a fast paced RTS with well thought mechanics, by far my favorite RTS.
@@birisuandrei2866 I really do need to get around to playing all the C&C games. Kind of excited for the remasters too.
@@GamerZakh that would be nice, dunno if the remasters will be any good, but the newer C&C games are made by EA, theyre not as good.
Thx for considering it 😝 ill definitely sub&like.
Really, I'm disappointed in your playstyle of this game. Don't get my wrong I think your a fairly good streamer, It just the lack of concideration for your people, I'm disappointed in. and Darn this tutor is much better then the ver that came with my game.
Are you saying my playstyle is bad in a game that I've been playing for less than 1 hour?
I'm sorry but yes, playing for less then one hour doesn't have anything to do with it. I'm probably being over picky here, because I'm talking about Your style, in the game. most people probably over look it, but to me or for me, the fact you didn't even stop to consider what all your people were doing when you attacked the wolves and even when those men attacked you did the same thing, you didn't even think about getting them to safety. To me when I'm playing all my people are important, not just winning the game, but bring as many of them as I can with me, is just as important as winning, you did nothing to try to metigate them, during the time of the wolves or the men you lost a lot of your people, both times. and to me that is as much as a loss as losing. maybe your only interested in winning, so to you i'm crazy. the fact you didn't try to secure them, but just left them to their work. I don't know maybe you can't do that in this game. I have a version of stronghold, but it has a really terrrible tutor. I played the game about 3 times and quit. but if the game doesn't give you a way to protect your people in times of battle, to me its not a very well made game. I assume it must have a way to protect all the people in times of war.
Getting them to safety? As far as I'm aware you can't control the villagers? That isn't about not being aware of what's going on, it's my understanding of the mechanics at that point. How do you get people to safety? That was never explained anywhere. I thought of getting them to safety but I didn't see how it was possible to do that. In Age of Empires there's a bell button. And then you yourself say that you don't know if it's possible to do that in this game. You are now criticising my playstyle for what could actually be a limitation of the game. That isn't fair. Even if there is a way to 'call back' villagers to the keep, I am not aware of that mechanic yet. It has nothing to do with my playstyle or decision making.