I love watching motogp riders they're in tune with their bikes on another level and the bike is simply just an extension of themselves. I know this applies to many other sports/motorsports but its so prominent in this case
One again Mike, you smashed this one. No matter how much I think I know there’s always so much more to learn. Like I knew about scanning back, it’s something I do in cars, but didn’t know the why, it’s just something I do. And getting the bike upright I learned in a hurry on a very wet track day (instructors saying “Yeah, just keep the bike upright” and the few who had stayed going “Uhh… ok”) but the how is like a revelation. Going to try the mantra thing before going on the commute tomorrow (“Just don’t crash, just don’t crash”).
I feel like I accidentally learned scanning back when driving because I look far ahead but it feels physically harder for me to focus my eyes scanning from near to far than far to near
@@opticalecho119 that might be because of the amount of information involved. With scanning back you've already discounted superfluous information from the scene, it's the details that stood out you're checking. The reverse, you'll see more fine detail but then you have to reprocess everything from scratch
I did the look ahead scan back thing subconsciously since I started riding and it always annoyed me because I thought you had to be constantly looking way in front and I could never get it. But now I know that it might not be that bad. Great vid Mike.
I like doing 'the move' on corner exits. I do it instinctively even when just watching an onboard camera on YT or TV, whether it's motorcycling or mountain biking.
What an excellent summarization of TCRS; thank you! I've taken Champ U (and watched many sections over and over), and plan to attend the two-day school this coming fall. Your assessment is incredibly helpful, and you relay the info astoundingly well. For example, yesterday I went on an eighty mile ride after watching your video and practiced the rear brake immediately before front brake in corners. What a stabilizing affect that has -- thank you again for the invaluable content! ✌🤘
I have a theory. They have speed input wheelie control. So the wheelie control is less at lower speeds to allow the front wheel to hover. Not having to push the front wheel until closer to top speed could help acceleration. Then at higher speeds above like 160, the wheelie control kicks in and brings the front down
Excellent info.if u naturally do this stuff already,i think no.10 is th secret edge.visualation is perfect ,th rest is follow thru,automatic..n stay loose
I accidentally wheelied out of a corner yesterday for the first time. Came up to the point I was looking at the sky then I remembered there was a turn in under 4-3secs and that I have a front brake use it dummy so I hit my toe on it it came down I locked up the rear slid a bit and gave gas to make the turn 😅 legit pulled over afterwards and had to process hat I had just done because I didn’t even think I just acted and I was proud feeling but also felt stupid as well.
Just bought the online course with your code! Thanks so much for these videos. I don’t doubt they helped me not crash on tail of the dragon this past weekend lol
Now this is just what I was looking for. It’s fascinating how you may think you know these techniques well until you discover that the best riders do the same techniques with minor differences, yet crucial details that just makes them leagues better than you. Thanks for the video, I’ve tried the sample course and I think I’ll sign up for the online school; It’s a shame I’m in Thailand and cannot afford to travel…
Good morning my brother as a old school rider i always try to learned more.verry verry good vedio and verry much needed infomation all around .i have ben watching your vedios for a a long time. Always impress with your contents .you be safe and take car❤👍
I own a vfr 800 with a Combined Brake System(CBS). I'm 28yo and i use the bike harder than it was supposed to be used. I've found that it is really stable under heavy braking. Rear end never gets off the ground. The part of the video mentioning the use of the rear brake, can explain my theory. From what i see in forums, people have a love-hate relationship with the CBS. Personally, i think it's awesome technology that makes the bike safer and as a result, faster while braking. What is your opinion on CBS?
A similar class is run at my old home racetrack being Phillip Island about an hour or two from my home city of Melbourne (depending on where you live in it). Although my racing days were in the 90’s, a lot of techniques have improved so after watching this I think I’ll book myself into one. Thanks for the video. 👍😎🇦🇺
@@opticalecho119 you mean the entrance to turn 4. Stoner was an absolute champion of his time. It’s interesting that I’ve possibly done more laps around the circuit in race conditions than he ever did. Just not in the same universe…. 😂
That's streets of willow. I've done thousands of laps around that thing. I took my very first ever racing school there back in 2003 with Keith Code's school.
i am not a racer i only streed ride but learnd in the winter in the amsterdam with rain wind 120hpk -5c in the day riding over bridges that are white from frost etc and in the rain you to avoid things in the road like arrows ore pot holes so you learn to do a corner in all ways but again not racing just keeping road pase.edit wy i say this in those hard conditions riding cold below zero hard wind you have to sort of use stuff you use racing to that little more grip like hanging of a bit the bike can stay more upright so in extreme conditions i lean of a tiny bit so my bike can stay more upright nit trying to be rossi
Yep! In adverse conditions, you can be at the edge of grip even at a moderate street pace. That's why this stuff is important even if you never race or ride on track!
Hi! I'm a bit puzzled about the viscoelastic explanation for smooth imputs. Usually this is explaned with suspension loading and weight transfer, which seams resonable. The viscoelastic explanation however, doesn't make sense considering we are talking about a rolling wheel. The rubber that is in contact with the ground when you start the braking/throtteling isn't the same as when reaching maximum, even if you smash the brake. If your contact patch is about 1dm long, which is reasonable on a motorcycle wheel under load, and you are going at 90km/h (25m/s) the rubber at the front will stay in contact with the ground for 4ms before leaving again. And 90km/h isn't that fast on a race bike at a track at the braking point. What I'm saying is, the rubber always experience load and force applied abruptly, regardless of your imputs. If you are in the middle of braking, a certain patch of rubber on the tire will go from zero load to full brake force in less than 1ms as it rolls down to meet the ground.
Number 8 is also a bit weird. The demonstration on a stationary bike is not the same situation as the dynamics when riding. In the demonstration, when the bike is pressed down the rear wheel rolls back a bit (the front brake is pressed). Rear brakes are then applied stopping the rear wheel from rolling forward when the springs push upwards, making the bike stay in place or go back slowly. But when in motion, the wheels roll and the distance between the wheels float and you lose this effect. Try it without locking the front wheel and the bike should pop right back up., albeit a bit slower since there is more mass to move (pulling the front back instead of just raising the rear). When in motion the front wheel is actually pushing back quite hard and will raise the rear almost immediatly, regardless of rear braking or not.
As champ school would say it, once you "have direction" (know you are pointed where you want to go) and are able to begin to take away lean angle from the turn, you crack the first 5% of throttle smoothly. Then, as Mike described here, once you are able to feel the grip you have with that first 5%, you can begin to open the throttle more quickly, and this is where you head drop--to reduce effective lean angle and increase grip to the rear tire, allowing you to open that throttle more quickly after the smooth initial onset.
I took the yami course about 11 years ago and took champ U last fall. Lol should I or shouldn't I take champ school again....hmmmm decisions decisions lol
S bends as a new rider 35 mph as an accomplished rider 85 mph really pushing. I lived in a town with a massive amount of motorcyclist. One guy should of been a pro GP rider, ( he was a agriculture mechanic) and never realised his mind-blowing skill. Me and the rest of the town was just motorcyclist. Ah fuck it I'm going to name him Steve Welford from east Grinstead West Sussex. A god
It would be a hilarious prank for a gp rider to attend the school. Imagine the instructor trying to film his ride from behind and he’s just saying…..seeeeya
Mike On Bikes - can I do your personalised ID racing tags please!? Would be an honour. I currently supply to The British Army Motorsport Team and No Limits Racing (UK largest racing group) Let me know man! 🙌
I had to quit road racing at 67 years old. Concentration wasn't what it needed to be anymore. Too many moments of brain farts. Too dangerous on a bike at those speeds.
12:36 Need to give a shoutout to your riding. Looking so good my man!
Thanks man!
Awesome! Was great meeting you and seeing you rip around on your Supermoto!
Great meeting you too!
Motojitsu I can beat you in U turns and figure 8s
my two'great teachers ❤️
Mike why did you remove the Chill boop Roll street riding video? That video helped me to get from novice rider to intermediate track rider!
Love your use of visual indicators to show where you're looking, when you're braking, etc.
I love watching motogp riders they're in tune with their bikes on another level and the bike is simply just an extension of themselves. I know this applies to many other sports/motorsports but its so prominent in this case
One again Mike, you smashed this one. No matter how much I think I know there’s always so much more to learn.
Like I knew about scanning back, it’s something I do in cars, but didn’t know the why, it’s just something I do. And getting the bike upright I learned in a hurry on a very wet track day (instructors saying “Yeah, just keep the bike upright” and the few who had stayed going “Uhh… ok”) but the how is like a revelation.
Going to try the mantra thing before going on the commute tomorrow (“Just don’t crash, just don’t crash”).
I feel like I accidentally learned scanning back when driving because I look far ahead but it feels physically harder for me to focus my eyes scanning from near to far than far to near
@@opticalecho119 that might be because of the amount of information involved. With scanning back you've already discounted superfluous information from the scene, it's the details that stood out you're checking. The reverse, you'll see more fine detail but then you have to reprocess everything from scratch
Love the video , it’s like taking the course all over again , the best money I every spent on learning and in the moto sport period.
I did the look ahead scan back thing subconsciously since I started riding and it always annoyed me because I thought you had to be constantly looking way in front and I could never get it. But now I know that it might not be that bad. Great vid Mike.
Your channel deserves more subscriptions. Well done
I like doing 'the move' on corner exits. I do it instinctively even when just watching an onboard camera on YT or TV, whether it's motorcycling or mountain biking.
Thank you for videos like this brother. Huge motivation!
nailed it again with the new video 👏👏👏👏
The clarity of your explanations and video are fantastic. Thank you.
Thanks for the great content Mike.
It's very appreciated.
VERY informative video Mike, loved it!
Real clear and easy to understand descriptions. Thank you for showing some of your champ school drills👍
Oddly satisfying watching someone run crisp clean lines. Great ride along lap!
Thank you mike for teaching us!
Surprisingly, I'm starting to understand what you're saying.
I hope that you will continue to be my great teacher. thank you brother!!
What an excellent summarization of TCRS; thank you! I've taken Champ U (and watched many sections over and over), and plan to attend the two-day school this coming fall. Your assessment is incredibly helpful, and you relay the info astoundingly well. For example, yesterday I went on an eighty mile ride after watching your video and practiced the rear brake immediately before front brake in corners. What a stabilizing affect that has -- thank you again for the invaluable content! ✌🤘
Great vid. Love champ school. Awesome to see ya there last weekend. 🙌
These types of videos are amazing. Thank you for posting!
I don't even ride. Just a motor racing fan but this is so interesting. Makes watching racing so much more interesting
Awesome video, great takeaways from champ school and your own added analysis was spot on.
I have a theory. They have speed input wheelie control. So the wheelie control is less at lower speeds to allow the front wheel to hover. Not having to push the front wheel until closer to top speed could help acceleration. Then at higher speeds above like 160, the wheelie control kicks in and brings the front down
That’s pretty sick going to try these on my moped on the road brb
Are you back? My guy got caught by the police, RIP bro 😔
this video is simply brilliant. i love the storytelling and of course the tips in it. Amazing job!
Thx MTB for an informative and entertaining video.
Excellent video. Thanks for the great work.
Excellent info.if u naturally do this stuff already,i think no.10 is th secret edge.visualation is perfect ,th rest is follow thru,automatic..n stay loose
been waiting for your new videos like this! thumbs up, Mike on Bikes!
Great video. I went to YCRS and it was an awesome experience. Even if you don't plan to be a track rider, the lessons are invaluable.
Very instructive and as always impeccable editing. Vielen Dank!
Great video! & Congrats on your Skill's!!!
Love what you are doing Mike! Keep doing it. Just signed up for Champ U.
Fascinating stuff, thanks.
Thanks for this. Very helpful, even for a 1st year track rider.
I accidentally wheelied out of a corner yesterday for the first time. Came up to the point I was looking at the sky then I remembered there was a turn in under 4-3secs and that I have a front brake use it dummy so I hit my toe on it it came down I locked up the rear slid a bit and gave gas to make the turn 😅 legit pulled over afterwards and had to process hat I had just done because I didn’t even think I just acted and I was proud feeling but also felt stupid as well.
Just bought the online course with your code! Thanks so much for these videos. I don’t doubt they helped me not crash on tail of the dragon this past weekend lol
Epic channel! Physics don't lie. Thanks for making it so easily understandable.
Nice video I’ll try do the head drop at donington in may
I learnt more here in 15 minutes then I've learnt from people in 5+ years!
Now this is just what I was looking for. It’s fascinating how you may think you know these techniques well until you discover that the best riders do the same techniques with minor differences, yet crucial details that just makes them leagues better than you. Thanks for the video, I’ve tried the sample course and I think I’ll sign up for the online school; It’s a shame I’m in Thailand and cannot afford to travel…
That was some really nice insight, thanks for the video!
Absolutely fantastic video of th best concepts
Great video, was think reacting to it with my own thoughts on it 🤔
Awesome lessons here! I hope to teach as many as you do one day!
That was great man! Gonna try these ASAP
Amazing clip! Congrats!
Your lap at the end looked like a MotoGP rider, you were getting it in, good job.
Awesome! Thanks for this man! Learned a lot again!
awesome content!!
Good morning my brother as a old school rider i always try to learned more.verry verry good vedio and verry much needed infomation all around .i have ben watching your vedios for a a long time. Always impress with your contents .you be safe and take car❤👍
This is some quality content.
great riding / video thanks
Thanks for the greeeaaattt content as always!!!! PLEASE do a vid featuring your new KTM SMR :D !
Great content. Well structured video. Thank you 👍🏽
Fantastic video, all I have to say :)
Thanks Mike!
Thank you MoB!
can't believe this content is for free
Nice lap at the end!
I own a vfr 800 with a Combined Brake System(CBS). I'm 28yo and i use the bike harder than it was supposed to be used. I've found that it is really stable under heavy braking. Rear end never gets off the ground. The part of the video mentioning the use of the rear brake, can explain my theory.
From what i see in forums, people have a love-hate relationship with the CBS. Personally, i think it's awesome technology that makes the bike safer and as a result, faster while braking. What is your opinion on CBS?
For those who are new to driving CBS is fine - I personally found it annoying lol
@@ANIK5261 Why?
Awesome video bro production value is stellar as always and super informative.
Great video
Thanks man
Can you please create something similar for off-road riding
That's amazing 👏
A similar class is run at my old home racetrack being Phillip Island about an hour or two from my home city of Melbourne (depending on where you live in it). Although my racing days were in the 90’s, a lot of techniques have improved so after watching this I think I’ll book myself into one. Thanks for the video. 👍😎🇦🇺
Maybe they’ll teach you to drift turn 3 like Stoner
@@opticalecho119 you mean the entrance to turn 4. Stoner was an absolute champion of his time. It’s interesting that I’ve possibly done more laps around the circuit in race conditions than he ever did. Just not in the same universe…. 😂
I did a Keith Code course there, with the man himself. Just after I got my new 750. Did you know Steve Brouggy?
Hur bra som helst, har tatt nettkurset. Skal på CSS Skandinavia i juni.
are these the same people who did the 100 points of grip video? i heard points and that's where my mind went to.
Yes
Happy to see jorge Lorenzo in the beginning 💕
Stoner is definitely a bad example for smooth riding xD he is literally all over the place sliding like crazy (absolutely amazing looking btw)
That's streets of willow. I've done thousands of laps around that thing. I took my very first ever racing school there back in 2003 with Keith Code's school.
with the breacking i even do that in the you can do it a lot harder and with more controlle and yes i ride bike to
i am not a racer i only streed ride but learnd in the winter in the amsterdam with rain wind 120hpk -5c in the day riding over bridges that are white from frost etc and in the rain you to avoid things in the road like arrows ore pot holes so you learn to do a corner in all ways but again not racing just keeping road pase.edit wy i say this in those hard conditions riding cold below zero hard wind you have to sort of use stuff you use racing to that little more grip like hanging of a bit the bike can stay more upright so in extreme conditions i lean of a tiny bit so my bike can stay more upright nit trying to be rossi
Yep! In adverse conditions, you can be at the edge of grip even at a moderate street pace. That's why this stuff is important even if you never race or ride on track!
Neat stuff 👌 👏 and 👍
Ah, at first I thought this was a reupload, but I see it is updated.
Hi! I'm a bit puzzled about the viscoelastic explanation for smooth imputs. Usually this is explaned with suspension loading and weight transfer, which seams resonable.
The viscoelastic explanation however, doesn't make sense considering we are talking about a rolling wheel. The rubber that is in contact with the ground when you start the braking/throtteling isn't the same as when reaching maximum, even if you smash the brake. If your contact patch is about 1dm long, which is reasonable on a motorcycle wheel under load, and you are going at 90km/h (25m/s) the rubber at the front will stay in contact with the ground for 4ms before leaving again. And 90km/h isn't that fast on a race bike at a track at the braking point.
What I'm saying is, the rubber always experience load and force applied abruptly, regardless of your imputs. If you are in the middle of braking, a certain patch of rubber on the tire will go from zero load to full brake force in less than 1ms as it rolls down to meet the ground.
Number 8 is also a bit weird. The demonstration on a stationary bike is not the same situation as the dynamics when riding. In the demonstration, when the bike is pressed down the rear wheel rolls back a bit (the front brake is pressed). Rear brakes are then applied stopping the rear wheel from rolling forward when the springs push upwards, making the bike stay in place or go back slowly. But when in motion, the wheels roll and the distance between the wheels float and you lose this effect. Try it without locking the front wheel and the bike should pop right back up., albeit a bit slower since there is more mass to move (pulling the front back instead of just raising the rear). When in motion the front wheel is actually pushing back quite hard and will raise the rear almost immediatly, regardless of rear braking or not.
Other than that I think all points are great and good examples on what to do when riding, in general or on a track.
Can you go more in detail about drop the head and when to do it? Please
As champ school would say it, once you "have direction" (know you are pointed where you want to go) and are able to begin to take away lean angle from the turn, you crack the first 5% of throttle smoothly. Then, as Mike described here, once you are able to feel the grip you have with that first 5%, you can begin to open the throttle more quickly, and this is where you head drop--to reduce effective lean angle and increase grip to the rear tire, allowing you to open that throttle more quickly after the smooth initial onset.
beautiful countryside to ride in
Love this
I took the yami course about 11 years ago and took champ U last fall. Lol should I or shouldn't I take champ school again....hmmmm decisions decisions lol
S bends as a new rider 35 mph as an accomplished rider 85 mph really pushing. I lived in a town with a massive amount of motorcyclist. One guy should of been a pro GP rider, ( he was a agriculture mechanic) and never realised his mind-blowing skill. Me and the rest of the town was just motorcyclist.
Ah fuck it I'm going to name him Steve Welford from east Grinstead West Sussex. A god
Awesome!
Wow excellent
Please, more videos with spanish subtitles
In the end they need a great bike under them to compliment their style and form right? Like rossi is great on a yamaha but with not a ducati
Dhanawad bhiya ji
It would be a hilarious prank for a gp rider to attend the school. Imagine the instructor trying to film his ride from behind and he’s just saying…..seeeeya
Mike On Bikes - can I do your personalised ID racing tags please!? Would be an honour. I currently supply to The British Army Motorsport Team and No Limits Racing (UK largest racing group)
Let me know man! 🙌
Nice
This is reposted right?
Alltid lika kul o se!
Lol Valentino was telling me the other day how much he’s learned from the Ukrainian
Is this a reupload ?
Omg finally :*
🎶🎶 it's gotta be against the law🎶🎶
I had to quit road racing at 67 years old. Concentration wasn't what it needed to be anymore. Too many moments of brain farts. Too dangerous on a bike at those speeds.
Willow Springs?
champ school is free? if I join who will pay?
"This one time, at champ school"