Alex and his AMC's made me smile. The cars are nothing special for most of us, but they are to him, and he is keeping them alive and modifying them as he sees fit. Built, not bought. Love it!
Right on. And Alex was super knowledgable about all aspects of both of them and incredibly hands-on to modify and repair. The world needs more Alex! Nice job dude - respect.
Thank you, Tom! for entertaining me again while I eat my dinner, I love the passion of the people you meet and how genuine they are. The woman, Janine (sp? sorry) with the convertible was so REAL for buying a car that she liked and driving it the way it was. It sounded great and I even told my wife I had a mini crush on her following her desires. Really? who needs a perfectly restored car that you worry about when you have that great sounding convertible that you can drive when you want. I also really appreciated Alex's nonchalant attitude as he explained what he did with his AMC Eagle - his car - his style! - and he knew what he was doing did it. Thank you Alex for not following restoration guidelines. You created a car that reflected what you want similar to what Carol Shelby did. This is the type of episode that I love because Tom meets and interviews people who love their cars period and are not concerned with resale.
Absolutely right Michael. Alex is the epitome of the term Hot Rodder. Knows his stuff and loves his car. He reminds me of myself when I was in my 20's (when I was drag racing big block Mopars). I appreciated everything he did and said about that AMC. Great job Tom for spotting it and great job Alex for building it! I've had my 1972 GMC 1/2 ton , 8' bed and Corvette motor for 12 years now. It's life in the slow lane these days for a 70's tow truck, but it rips getting on the freeway and everyone who see it and hears it, loves it. I'd love to hear Alex's AMC doing the dirt in anger!!!!!!!! cheers Boots Langley La Mesa, Ca
Haha he has some dreams but it ends there. A real hotrodder would have the spring perches welded on. That Eagle will never, ever, ever, ever move under its own power again or leave that spot it's parked in until that kid sells it.
@@letaloudone People love to hop on the Framwagon ever since that dude cut one open to find paper as if it were somehow a surprise... Do you know what else paper filters just fine? Fucking everything, man. As a matter of fact, it's cleaned every breath of air, every stroke, and every mile that every driver has ever traveled in a non-oilbath-filter vehicle. Don't run your conventional and your Fram for 10,000 miles and you'll be fine.
I used to buy California plates and then stick them on Rust-Belt cars I patched with pop-rivets and bondo. Yes sir, it's solid California car, no rust!
However I am a little jealous of that floor as my Chevelle's floor is a bit swiss cheesed and that would be at least one item I'd not have to bother as much with lol
Those were some awesome examples of "Classic" automobiles from yesteryear. I'm old, I can remember back when these cars were new. Bring back the Good Old Days. Thanks for sharing this great video with us. Stan
When I was a kid in Indiana, my dad owned a 1964 Rambler American Convertible. No rear brakes, lots of rust, but a lot of fun to go race around the country roads at night.
Another great episode with Tom meeting real people with real cars. The gal with the Galaxie has the right idea, simply enjoying an original old car! Loved seeing the Rambler / AMC products, my very first car was a Rambler Classic and dad had a few over the years.
As always Tom, great content. Thanks to the first gentleman for his service. I LOVE 63 Impalas, have owned one for twenty years. Was sad to see that very rare SILVER 63 in that state of disrepair. No disrespect to the owner but not often you see one. I remember so very well when those Eagles when new. I had an employee that bought one new and she always picked up my crew that were unable to navigate snow, great cars. My Grandmother, God rest her soul, loved Ramblers. I will never forget our trip to Calgary Alberta in 1965 to see the Stampede in her 62 Classic 400.
I owned the wagon too. That car came alive in deep snow. The build quality was great and it was sharp looking. Easily one of my favorites and I've always wanted another.
One of my best friends has a sunroof model just like this! And a great piano player I used to gig with in San Antonio 40 years ago drove a 63 Galaxy convertible! Factory red. I lusted after that car.
Hey Tom! I’ve been watching the show now for 4 years and loved every bit of it , only in this episode I’m not sure if others will agree but I like it when you don’t do voiceovers on the videos prefer to listen to everything filmed in the video like every other episode. Besides that , everything is perfect , my favourite show on TH-cam hands down. Great work.
I bought my 1985 AMC Eagle brand new and ordered from the factory. It would go anywhere! I made Subaru’s look sick. The Eagle was the first 4WD sport utility vehicle, despite Subaru’s claims. The problem with the 1985 with the 258 engine was the plastic rocker cover. You couldn’t stop it from leaking! I wish I had kept it, but sadly I went on to other vehicles. Thanks for showing it to us!
My Grandfather bought a new AMC Eagle Sport in 1982. It was a nice car. That little car would go anywhere. I didn't thrash it out in the mud but in snow and sand you couldn't stop it.
He's not alone! My father had a 59 American, 63 Rambler Classic wagon and a Rambler Rebel 67 I believe. He loved Ramblers and was saddened when they quit.
I'm glad he gave that kid some credit for the things he is doing and the way he's doing it. I liked that part of the video, and would've watched those 2 for the whole time.
I knew a guy that had an older eagle wagon. He loved it and always talked about how badass it was. Thirty three years later, I keep hearing that he was right.
The Ford 200 6 cylinder also had intake as part of the year...1980 straight six Australian Ford 200 straight six did have a removable intake manifold...1979 to 1983 FORD they came in MUSTANGS n Capri's..in America...Rock On TOM....excellent series
More rare and valuable cars sitting in groves with trees growing up around them and settling into the mud to rot out from the bottom. "Gonna fix it up someday!" Sad, just sad.
@@randomrandomness8743 A 1946 GMC long box I've had since high school that's sitting inside a concrete floor shed and I sold my 73 Z/28 when I was in my mid 20's because it was just sitting in a old dirt floor machine shed. I knew I couldn't fix them both up and I flipped a coin.
That Nova is a 72. 73 never had vent windows. The option is just called SkyRoof. Ventura II was the Pontiac model and had nothing to do with the Nova. SkyRoof was very rare, so this car is worth some money.
Deepsea steve Our (Australian ) 6 cylinders all had cast inlet manifolds ( except for the 2V model) up until the Cross Flow engines which started in the XC falcon. 🇦🇺🤙🏼
Had a 72 Mustang with a 250 six that had a one piece intake and head. Not much you could do to soup up that 99 horse slug in a pretty heavy car. I polished and ported (exhaust) the heads, put a set of Hooker headers on it with dual exhaust and rejetted the 1 bbl carb to wake it up just a bit.
Thanks Tom! Alex sounds like me 30 years ago.....your right.....rare souls these days.....which is why I avoid all my old SoCal meets......more time for canyons😎
In Canada a Impala was also called a Pontiac Parisienne, a( "Poncho"), where as Ford Canada had a Meteor Division, which was a cross between a Ford and a Mercury.
Hey Tom loved the UK BFH....... if you had a greatest Barn Find Hunter Compilation re mix of your favourite finds.......with your commentary over the top just like this format it will keep us all riveted.........
Various Fiat 850 & 903 cc engines had no intake manifold, the carb or carbs bolted directly to the head. The new Honda engines, Fit, Civic and others don’t have an exhaust manifold, the exhaust pipe bolts to the head.
loved those amc eagles. anything car/wagon with 4wd and I'm sold. at one point recently owned 3 awd wagons/sedans, mostly beaters but in New England we always have chance of snow.
Love these Barn Find Hunter episodes! Especially being from VA and so many wooded areas and country roads when I see 60’s impalas! I buy Impalas pretty regularly and would be interested in the 64ss!
The Rambler American was big as a second vehicle, usually for the mom to haul groceries and kids around in. We had a 1956 Dodge station wagon for the family car but that was too big for my mom so dad bought her a new 1957 Rambler because we lived out in the suburbs back then. When I think back there were several households in our neighborhood that had Ramblers as a second car.
I no this video is a little old,but I live on the Mississippi gulf coast,I was at my local pull it yesterday and there sits an AMC eagle station wagon,but this one had factory finder flare's an was in top shape.
13:42 A little known fact , in the late 60s Rambler subsidiary in Argentina took that ambassador and gave it to Pininfarina for a complete overhaul. That became the quintessential and most iconic car in Argentina. The "Torino". Look it up in here what a compact car can became when you fit 3 Weber carbs: Torino 380W
And then put him in prison for letting so many classics rot away. That's about as far away from patriotism as you can get, meanwhile he's wearing a Navy veteran shirt.
I think these owners are just neglectful and lazy. It doesnt take much to protect your investments, but these are far from that. They're just scrap. Any true car enthusiast would get them sitting safely, covered, and protected from vermin and the elements. Its a damn shame.
I've got 2 '63 fastbacks, one an XL, both with 352's..........xl supposedly with just 78,000 miles, and a '66 Thunderbird, that have been sitting for years, inside, ya need come get.....and also a junker, full car, '63 fastback with a 390, that was bought for parts......all were my late dads......
AMC was not the only brand to use a unified head/intake. The US SPEC Ford inline 144/170/200/250 did as well. Ford of Australia built their own head with a proper seperate intake manifold.
C10 Scottsdale was the mid-range Chevy C-10 back in the day. There was the Custom Deluxe, Scottsdale and the Silverado. The Scottsdale was not that common and was discontinued in the early 80"s I believe.
Alex and his AMC's made me smile. The cars are nothing special for most of us, but they are to him, and he is keeping them alive and modifying them as he sees fit. Built, not bought. Love it!
Right on. And Alex was super knowledgable about all aspects of both of them and incredibly hands-on to modify and repair. The world needs more Alex! Nice job dude - respect.
The Eagle was my favorite.
Built not bought. Is my son's company name.
They made a station wagon version of this too
Corey for sure !
Wish I had one of those impala, used to have a '63 Impala SS, 409, 4 speed, tilt steering, it was a monster!!
Thank you, Tom! for entertaining me again while I eat my dinner, I love the passion of the people you meet and how genuine they are. The woman, Janine (sp? sorry) with the convertible was so REAL for buying a car that she liked and driving it the way it was. It sounded great and I even told my wife I had a mini crush on her following her desires. Really? who needs a perfectly restored car that you worry about when you have that great sounding convertible that you can drive when you want.
I also really appreciated Alex's nonchalant attitude as he explained what he did with his AMC Eagle - his car - his style! - and he knew what he was doing did it. Thank you Alex for not following restoration guidelines. You created a car that reflected what you want similar to what Carol Shelby did. This is the type of episode that I love because Tom meets and interviews people who love their cars period and are not concerned with resale.
The kid with the 4wd AMC is a true hotrodder! Cool to see him nerd out on his car!
Absolutely right Michael.
Alex is the epitome of the term Hot Rodder. Knows his stuff and loves his car. He reminds me of myself when I was in my 20's (when I was drag racing big block Mopars). I appreciated everything he did and said about that AMC.
Great job Tom for spotting it and great job Alex for building it!
I've had my 1972 GMC 1/2 ton , 8' bed and Corvette motor for 12 years now. It's life in the slow lane these days for a 70's tow truck, but it rips getting on the freeway and everyone who see it and hears it, loves it. I'd love to hear Alex's AMC doing the dirt in anger!!!!!!!!
cheers
Boots Langley
La Mesa, Ca
Haha he has some dreams but it ends there. A real hotrodder would have the spring perches welded on. That Eagle will never, ever, ever, ever move under its own power again or leave that spot it's parked in until that kid sells it.
Tuned in to see the eagle.
He needs to get rid of the Fram filters to start.
@@letaloudone People love to hop on the Framwagon ever since that dude cut one open to find paper as if it were somehow a surprise... Do you know what else paper filters just fine? Fucking everything, man. As a matter of fact, it's cleaned every breath of air, every stroke, and every mile that every driver has ever traveled in a non-oilbath-filter vehicle. Don't run your conventional and your Fram for 10,000 miles and you'll be fine.
It's a California car sitting in the Michigan elements for a number of years no longer qualifies as a California car.
It has now been thoroughly doused in road salt and humid air. It will have significant weight reduction.
I used to buy California plates and then stick them on Rust-Belt cars I patched with pop-rivets and bondo. Yes sir, it's solid California car, no rust!
However I am a little jealous of that floor as my Chevelle's floor is a bit swiss cheesed and that would be at least one item I'd not have to bother as much with lol
@@assoonaspastablepizza8135 Thats very kind and considerate of you. A real honest seller.
For sure!
Never a dull moment on this show, always great entertainment!
Those were some awesome examples of "Classic" automobiles from yesteryear.
I'm old, I can remember back when these cars were new. Bring back the
Good Old Days.
Thanks for sharing this great video with us.
Stan
The sound of this woody wagon is nothing but love!
When I was a kid in Indiana, my dad owned a 1964 Rambler American Convertible. No rear brakes, lots of rust, but a lot of fun to go race around the country roads at night.
Another great episode with Tom meeting real people with real cars. The gal with the Galaxie has the right idea, simply enjoying an original old car! Loved seeing the Rambler / AMC products, my very first car was a Rambler Classic and dad had a few over the years.
Guys like Alex keep me alive knowing that the car hobby will stay alive for many more years to come.
As always Tom, great content. Thanks to the first gentleman for his service. I LOVE 63 Impalas, have owned one for twenty years. Was sad to see that very rare SILVER 63 in that state of disrepair.
No disrespect to the owner but not often you see one. I remember so very well when those Eagles when new. I had an employee that bought one new and she always picked up my crew that were unable to navigate snow, great cars. My Grandmother, God rest her soul, loved Ramblers. I will never forget our trip to Calgary Alberta in 1965 to see the Stampede in her 62 Classic 400.
My first car was a 1980 AMC Eagle Wagon with the 258 Straight 6. I honestly want another one, those things are genuinely badass.
I owned the wagon too. That car came alive in deep snow. The build quality was great and it was sharp looking. Easily one of my favorites and I've always wanted another.
Thanks for posting and sharing. Nice to see that Ford Galaxy, and the AMC vehicles. Kudos to Alex for his approach to caring for these old cars.
LOVE the AMC Eagle since the first day I saw one!
One of my best friends has a sunroof model just like this! And a great piano player I used to gig with in San Antonio 40 years ago drove a 63 Galaxy convertible! Factory red. I lusted after that car.
Hey Tom! I’ve been watching the show now for 4 years and loved every bit of it , only in this episode I’m not sure if others will agree but I like it when you don’t do voiceovers on the videos prefer to listen to everything filmed in the video like every other episode. Besides that , everything is perfect , my favourite show on TH-cam hands down. Great work.
I had an Eagle wagon many years ago and it was a great car.
I bought my 1985 AMC Eagle brand new and ordered from the factory. It would go anywhere! I made Subaru’s look sick. The Eagle was the first 4WD sport utility vehicle, despite Subaru’s claims. The problem with the 1985 with the 258 engine was the plastic rocker cover. You couldn’t stop it from leaking! I wish I had kept it, but sadly I went on to other vehicles. Thanks for showing it to us!
My Grandfather bought a new AMC Eagle Sport in 1982. It was a nice car. That little car would go anywhere. I didn't thrash it out in the mud but in snow and sand you couldn't stop it.
He's not alone! My father had a 59 American, 63 Rambler Classic wagon and a Rambler Rebel 67 I believe. He loved Ramblers and was saddened when they quit.
I do like that Eagle. My uncle had one in Denver. Made more sense than his V12 XJS Jag in the snow!
Lol
I'm glad he gave that kid some credit for the things he is doing and the way he's doing it. I liked that part of the video, and would've watched those 2 for the whole time.
Tom you deserve a Netflix special always transporting us to great locations
That is my favorite year and style of all the Impalas.
Alex is a hero! well done!
Watching this on my front porch and I hear the local judge coming up the rd. Love the classics, keep the video's coming
Awesome ! I had an eagle on Dana 44s and 35s. Was an attention getter but I never got it geared to so much crawling but I still see it around .
Keep that Galaxie original. It's perfect
It looks like almost the same car that Frank Sinatra drove in the movie "Tony Roma".
I knew a guy that had an older eagle wagon. He loved it and always talked about how badass it was. Thirty three years later, I keep hearing that he was right.
glad your back on this side of the pond looking forward to some new content
The Ford 200 6 cylinder also had intake as part of the year...1980 straight six Australian Ford 200 straight six did have a removable intake manifold...1979 to 1983 FORD they came in MUSTANGS n Capri's..in America...Rock On TOM....excellent series
I freaking love this show.
Good to se you back in the states Tom and back in the woodie 😍😍😍👍👍
Hats off to Alex. Great cars!
More rare and valuable cars sitting in groves with trees growing up around them and settling into the mud to rot out from the bottom. "Gonna fix it up someday!" Sad, just sad.
if they weren't sitting in groves they would already have been crushed and being used to hold baked beans on a super market shelf somewhere.
still the same song
@@xsduprwd3937 Lol!! For sure!!
How many cars have you rescued and are restoring Seth Thomas?
@@randomrandomness8743 A 1946 GMC long box I've had since high school that's sitting inside a concrete floor shed and I sold my 73 Z/28 when I was in my mid 20's because it was just sitting in a old dirt floor machine shed. I knew I couldn't fix them both up and I flipped a coin.
Good job Alex!
That kid with the AMC cars in his yard is totally the future of the hobby
That Nova is a 72. 73 never had vent windows. The option is just called SkyRoof. Ventura II was the Pontiac model and had nothing to do with the Nova. SkyRoof was very rare, so this car is worth some money.
Definitely NOT a 73. 73 AND 74 had the front turn signals inside the grille. 68-72 they were inside the bumper.
Loved seeing that Galaxie survivor. Nice.
It's beer time in Switzerland, and just got this notification at the right time!
Beer and barn finds. What could be better?
@@Joshinwithya1973 Not much, apart from stumbling upon a barn find myself :)
🍺
Makes me want to cry seeing that Nova rotting. Man I miss my 70 Nova (307/Powerglide).
Ford Falcon 6 cylinder engines (144,170,200,250) had intakes and heads that were one piece.
Also some 250 chevys
Eric Corse not on Australian 6’s they always had seperate intakes to heads
@@DeepseaSteve As they have been in the first place.
Deepsea steve Our (Australian ) 6 cylinders all had cast inlet manifolds ( except for the 2V model) up until the Cross Flow engines which started in the XC falcon. 🇦🇺🤙🏼
Had a 72 Mustang with a 250 six that had a one piece intake and head. Not much you could do to soup up that 99 horse slug in a pretty heavy car. I polished and ported (exhaust) the heads, put a set of Hooker headers on it with dual exhaust and rejetted the 1 bbl carb to wake it up just a bit.
14:10, GM did something similar in the 80's with the Inline Sixes as well.
Love the Rambler American! I have a few myself, 2 '59s and a '65 440H hardtop!
Can't deny that the AMC people have heart.
this would be a dream to just see even in that condition, its rare that we see any cars like this in Australia
My favorite show to get me thru the day !!
Thanks Tom!
Alex sounds like me 30 years ago.....your right.....rare souls these days.....which is why I avoid all my old SoCal meets......more time for canyons😎
In Canada a Impala was also called a Pontiac Parisienne, a( "Poncho"), where as Ford Canada had a Meteor Division, which was a cross between a Ford and a Mercury.
Hey Tom loved the UK BFH....... if you had a greatest Barn Find Hunter Compilation re mix of your favourite finds.......with your commentary over the top just like this format it will keep us all riveted.........
I remember driving those Rambler Americans back in the day when they were cheap used cars. Never bought one because they had too rough of a ride.
Various Fiat 850 & 903 cc engines had no intake manifold, the carb or carbs bolted directly to the head. The new Honda engines, Fit, Civic and others don’t have an exhaust manifold, the exhaust pipe bolts to the head.
Thank you Tom for a great video
loved those amc eagles. anything car/wagon with 4wd and I'm sold. at one point recently owned 3 awd wagons/sedans, mostly beaters but in New England we always have chance of snow.
Love this show. Greetings from Holland.
Is it wierd that I enjoy seeing the cars, but I also have words for the owner letting them rot into the ground?
i feel the same but at least this guy has everything for sale, its worse when they want to keep every
car and there 80.
That’s how these cars survive at all.
@Stoneyburke yeah!! 7500 for a gutted car??!! No fricken way!!!
The orange/grey Camaro also looks to be a split bumper car, that also bring value up a bit more.
Called a Rally Sport
Love these Barn Find Hunter episodes! Especially being from VA and so many wooded areas and country roads when I see 60’s impalas! I buy Impalas pretty regularly and would be interested in the 64ss!
The Rambler American was big as a second vehicle, usually for the mom to haul groceries and kids around in. We had a 1956 Dodge station wagon for the family car but that was too big for my mom so dad bought her a new 1957 Rambler because we lived out in the suburbs back then. When I think back there were several households in our neighborhood that had Ramblers as a second car.
Another FANTASTIC episode 👏 👌
I love this show it is so cool my yard needs to look like these others
Just be building a large shop to put them in.
@@jman1957 I definitely am going to have a large shop
American Muscle Maniac wish I had another shop. Got married and sold my home. Live in town now.
@@jman1957 that sucks dude
cool show it should be on cable tv but I’m glad it’s on TH-cam
Fabulous episode !
Some real nice yard art.
My grandma had a '64 lmpala with a 283 and Powerglide from 1964-80. Then she traded it in on a new Granada with the 250 straight six.
That Galaxie is right there.... i love it.
Love the AMC's because they are not "normal". My uncle had the rambler.
Integral head? Thanks Tom! Always enjoy the show
You forgot about the big boy 409 ss package for that 64 my friend and YES Scottsdale is a trim package 😆
Always a good show
I only subscribe e to a few channels, this has to be my favorite. I can’t wait to see the next barn find. Tom you are great
I no this video is a little old,but I live on the Mississippi gulf coast,I was at my local pull it yesterday and there sits an AMC eagle station wagon,but this one had factory finder flare's an was in top shape.
Fantastic episode.
13:42 A little known fact , in the late 60s Rambler subsidiary in Argentina took that ambassador and gave it to Pininfarina for a complete overhaul. That became the quintessential and most iconic car in Argentina. The "Torino". Look it up in here what a compact car can became when you fit 3 Weber carbs: Torino 380W
Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know about the Torino! What a cool car.
It's 11am, I got a fresh cup of coffee, new Hagerty video, do you know where your kids are? Who cares!!!
It's my favourite car show. I dream of being able to drive these away, when possible!
Good to see you on the road again. Interesting show.
its from 2017
@@coom0004 I never read the opening description.
The Scottsdale c10🥰
If it’s 4 wd would it be a K10? I’d love to have that truck.
@@Chodfather1107 I believe your correct
7 grand? Tell him he's dreamin'
And then put him in prison for letting so many classics rot away. That's about as far away from patriotism as you can get, meanwhile he's wearing a Navy veteran shirt.
you can thank EazyE for that $70k price tag on the 64 lol
"Ride in' in ma six fo".
"fo"
Awesome...
I didn't see the ////Alpine
B!tch shut the F up get the F outta here. They were almost always 4 doors...So, nope. Its defiantly not the styling either..bland.
Lmao
Wow, I just fell madly in love with Janine! And her kids...I mean cars!
Me too!! Could we share?
Mid 60’s Ford 170 had the intake as part of the head too.
And the 200, kind of a nightmare, lol.
How hard is it to put them up high on blocks and cover them at least?
I think these owners are just neglectful and lazy. It doesnt take much to protect your investments, but these are far from that. They're just scrap. Any true car enthusiast would get them sitting safely, covered, and protected from vermin and the elements. Its a damn shame.
Wish I had One of those... Hey from Indonesia
Yo..
Sweet my first car was a 65 Impala SS 327/powerglide
Man I’m interested in the 63 ready for paint
Love the rims on the eagle......
AMC wasn't the only company that had carbeurators bolt right onto the head. CJ5 Hurricane Willys jeeps had it too.
Love the 63 Ford!!
Another amazing video
Wow,that nova and that impala
Some hydros and Daytons. would do wonders
Ford 6 cylinders also had the inlet manifold cast into the head.
I've got 2 '63 fastbacks, one an XL, both with 352's..........xl supposedly with just 78,000 miles, and a '66 Thunderbird, that have been sitting for years, inside, ya need come get.....and also a junker, full car, '63 fastback with a 390, that was bought for parts......all were my late dads......
Poor guy actually needs a massive barn to put these back inside. (1st guy)
Yeah!! As rare as hens teeth as these cars are becoming. He definitely needs to get all of them outta the elements!!!
True
AMC was not the only brand to use a unified head/intake. The US SPEC Ford inline 144/170/200/250 did as well. Ford of Australia built their own head with a proper seperate intake manifold.
Ford Australia designed the cast iron crossflow head in 1976 and the alloy crossflow head in 1980.
Awesome episode!!
@5:46 a baby blue delta 88 appears I need to see the rest of the car lol I have the same one need parts from it lol
C10 Scottsdale was the mid-range Chevy C-10 back in the day. There was the Custom Deluxe, Scottsdale and the Silverado. The Scottsdale was not that common and was discontinued in the early 80"s I believe.
Nope. Had a 1989 Scottsdale belive ended early 90s