@ShadowMapleLeaf if she knew how to cook, it could ( should) have been something she knew before even meeting him. It is also very possible to cook junkfood, just look at fastfood places.
That's what happens when you're in a traditional house, all you do is cook, clean, and take care of the kids. I bet the only thing she does with her free time is either shop or watch tv. I mean, if that's the life she wants, then by all means, but man fuck that.
My very "masculine" Jamaican dad is the one who did (and still does at 82) all the cooking in our household. My mom was "lucky" if he let her into his kitchen every now and then to cook something. He still hovers over any of us if we're cooking something in his kitchen or try to wash the dishes (because we "aren't doing it right"). He also did all the sewing and mending, grocery shopping, gardening, and any fixing/house repairs; while mom does laundry, house cleaning, and household goods shopping. It's not about "masculine" and "feminine" roles, it's about what each person does best, enjoys more, or has time for. I could never be with a man who believes in this "women's place" bs. I was raised better than that.
My Jamaican father cooked a lot as well! I remember that very clearly from my childhood. My dad knew how to do all the things you mentioned and stressed that myself and my siblings know how to do them as well.
Wish I could find a guy like that. I hate cooking and cleaning but I have no problem doing it. My dad was military and mom was a stay at home wife she did the majority of the house hold work but my dad had no problem cooking and cleaning even at times telling my mom to kick back or go out while he took care of us(3 girls) and the house.
@@herelookinatu I personally think cooking and cleaning is an aspect of our essence as humans. What you prepare to eat to keep you alive and making your environment tidy to stay healthy should be a second nature to everyone, man or woman. But hey, what do I know!
@@jayaustin1939 I totally agree with you however so many people bring it up in a debate of gender roles and why women should do more of it then men. I'm a good cook and a little ocd when it comes to cleaning but I really can't stand to do it. That's why I mentioned wanting a guy that didn't have a problem doing those things without feeling like he is less then a man. Because as you said and I do believe that they are just basic things in life you have to do.
I'm from jamaica and the concept of "masculine" and "feminine" varies by culture and time period. I ln Jamaica it is considered masculine to be a good cook and to be very clean. My dad would force me to wash my sneakers right after I wear them and he also thought me to do laundry early because a man is to look presentable at all times. But going back in time Men use to wear heels, wigs and makeup in the victorian era in england. The scotts men wore skirts, japanese men used to wear kimono (which looks like dresses). Social norms change all the time.
I grew up in a pull your weight type of household. My dad taught me and my sisters it ain't a woman thing or a man thing. It's life lesson to carry the weight
@@cooljool1 it is if that's the end goal. It is if all you ever are is some "burro" to be whipped and taken advantage of by others. It's a quality when that's a part of your character. It's a quality when that part of you, the part that can get shit done, enables you to be a better person and shows people your worth. So how about quit the half baked comments and carry your weight in the conversation.
I hate how people use “plenty of people have tried to change me over the years and none have succeeded” as a badge of honor. Like maybe there’s a reason so many people have tried to change you, instead of appreciating you for who you are.
@@alex_mcclay I think JK's point is that he seems proud that he knows everything. It's like that Muhammed Ali quote 'the man who has the same views at 20 and 50 has wasted 30 years of his life.'
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Husband and I both work. I do most of the cooking and he’ll do the dishes during or afterwards and vice versa. Weekends I do more of the cleaning because he’s in class all day Saturday and studying Sundays for advancement exams. So I pick up the slack. His class was cancelled during the winter storm so he helped split the chores I usually do. House got cleaned faster and we both got to be couch potatoes and enjoy each other’s company. It’s just a matter of finding what works for you and your marriage/relationship.
@@Scrubermensch nah she knows the black man is a mature adult to have a civil conversation with unlike her man baby tombstone who'll throw a big baby tantrum if she asks him to clean his room or clean up after himself
It's one of those situations where a wild minority of the identity acts up so wild that it ruins it for the rest. So yes, vegans are the problem, AND their own worst enemy.
He said it like that cause he’s afraid his real wife might have heard the conversation later. She’s definitely the one wearing the pants in that house she said she was the boss he has no nuts he very weak
@@robertcarter408 he’s not weak, just because he doesn’t follow your dynamic doesn’t mean that he’s weak or less than you, she literally told him not to be near his own children. If you think THAT IS a man, you’re the weak one
In defense of tombstone and his wife... they really changed by the end of the episode. They turned out to be really good people who made real efforts to change their view points. I think she even told Kiera that she wanted to be like her at the end of the episode.
Plus, we should also remember the producers have a narrative in mind and will cut footage to suit that. Some of Tombstone’s responses sounded like he was responding to a slightly different question & I highly doubt the letters the wives read weren’t at least heavily edited by showrunners
I'm old fashioned in a lot of ways. i have no problem cooking and cleaning but as soon as someone tells me that i had better be seen and not heard and all i'm good for is cooking and cleaning, i'm out. that is so disrespectful.
Right. Those are the roles I choose because I like to cook, clean, and take care of my baby. I'm lucky enough to get to do so. But if that was what I was told to do, you bet that man would never have another clean pair of underwear in this whole life.
I just watched the whole episode. Surprisingly it was the wife that thought and said that. Tombstone was actually open minded about vegan food, cooking, and cleaning when it was all said and done.
That’s how it should be tho.. seen not heard.. if I have company u shouldn’t be out here trying to I be the center of attention.. bitch go find something to do it’s men speaking .. the Bible even says the same thing
Depends on how many dishes were dirtied prior, then it would be more efficient if they just did all of them together if their is a lot. But if it is just your dishes then wash your own.
I feel you brotha😂. Anything can damn near be taken in a multitude of ways but we not finna ruin this dad’s image/character. I know what u meant bruh. Happy to see the dad very involved in his kids life. Especially his daughters! I’m a young adult nowhere near having kids, but I can definitely respect a man whos a great father to his daughters! Nothing wrong with having girls and boys, or just one or the other, but shoutout to Kobe and The Girl Dads out there 💯. Keep doing y’all thing
So there is another clip of when the wife's swap rules and Kp's wife has Tombstone and his son help in the kitchen and it shows a whole other side to him. The wife is actually the one who makes that "it's a woman's place" rule in my opinion. She makes KP sit still even when he wants a glass of water she fetches it for him. It's wild
@@lizziejay5362 yeah shes like trying to run circles and do 33434 things at once and it made KP very uncomfortable bc it was over the top, like it really was played up.
That is what I wanted to see in this review. To show that sometimes, some men do want to do more around the house to feel like they can contribute more and feel connected with the house and partner they are supporting, besides being a walking wallet. That unhealthy eating style of just ramen noodles and packaged foods must be killing his arteries too. Looks like "traditional wife" wants him to be a literal Tombstone for real. 💀The dude looks like he could have an early stroke or heart attack and never come out of it ever. 😰I think that swap made a positive impact, if not mentally, at least physically from a health perspective.
She’s in the kitchen all day making him unhealthy meals? She’s trying to kill him fast. Extra butter and sugar on everything. I wonder if she has life insurance on him?
I loved when the "woman in her place" shaded the other for a couple dishes in the sink meanwhile she had the exact same amount left in hers. 🙄 And her Idea of being in the kitchen consists of microwaving fish sticks.
People really do get on my nerves sometimes: no woman or man should be bossing her/his spouse around!!!! Marriage should be a partnership not a dictatorship.
Unfortunately, all that war of genders wouldn't even exist if we would have only good people in our lives... truly good people don't treat others as if they are beneath them and don't think that their opinion is the only right one.
@@nottheone831 "someone" doesn't have to be anything, when people really care for one another, they will work it out as they go, but when they follow some idea and their own ego, they start fighting over leadership or 50/50. Most of men want to be leaders and that's a good thing, but a real leader never mentions he is a leader, he just does the work and no one questions it, because he does it right. That's why when in a relationship you feel the need to remind a woman you are a leader, you've already failed.
Nah it's the food haha. I was vegan seven years, destroyed my body. I'm only in my 20s and have so many health conditions I have to heal from now. Eating meat for the last 6 months has already drastically improved my health. There;s a very small number who can do well on this diet for years.
@@jasperklingen6964 How did I prove the point? I wasn't implying that there's no preachy vegans. I'm saying that it is also the food that's the problem since they seem to be advocating for the diet.
@@sorchx Sorry to hear that dude :(( My mom's vegetarian, when she first transitioned into vegetarianism her doctor told her to keep eating eggs because she was in her 40s and her body wouldn't adjust well. Does she have health problems? Yeah. All the imaginable ones. I mean, there are other contributing factors to her poor health too, but I don't imagine being vegetarian (she recently went full-off eggs) has been helping, especially with her lifestyle.
@@noelstar1456 I thought that most became vegans to be healthy. Doesn't seem like it's that healthy. In other words, it shouldn't be the only reason I think.
@Lateisha Jordan it’s fine if you don’t like it, as long as it works for you and your relationship is happy and healthy in that dynamic, you’re doing good. the only issue arises when you judge others for what works for them (not trying to say you did! i didn’t get that vibe from what you said, just giving my own input)
My dad cooks most of the time🥰 and does most of the outside work. He truly seems to enjoy it. My mom does most of the inside housework and laundry. HOWEVER, she specifically, cannot touch is lawn and he cannot touch their laundry. He washed the laundry once and she was so upset she mowed his grass😂😂😂. (Apparently their's an art to mowing grass she doesn't know, and he shrinks clothes.) Yes, they're nuts, but u gotta love em.😅
Plus, they are always assuming the other person wants to change them and therefore act super defensive. Childish and immature in my opinion. You can try new things and go back to your old habits - no biggie......unless, in reality, you are afraid your old habits may be "crap" and you aren't "man enough" to accept that.
I feel like the reason why she is so defensive about where a woman's place is because otherwise she would have no place in her household, which is so sad. Traditional values doesn't mean being a doormat. My husband and I have more or less traditional roles, but we see each other as equals in minds and value.
Traditional values are so weird. They're so flawed, inefficient, and pointless. There's no basis other than magical sky daddy's. If both members contribute to housework it is done faster giving more free time for activities. You make a mess you clean it up? Is your wife a slave? How pathetic. What kind of a man has to have a woman wipe his azz? I bet this guy can't do anything without his girl and his fragile ego won't let him admit it. I value skillsets, action, responsibility, maturity, and performance. These are foreign concepts to traditionalist.
@@rye-bread5236 traditional(or more so a biblical view) wasn't about wiping a man's ass, it was simply woman stay home, man go and work(it can bring balance just as a modern relationship does). Where the problem lies is the fact that men started to believe that women were simply doormats or birthing machines, which shouldn't be the case.
My dad does his dishes and sometimes ours. He cooks certain dishes as well. Making tea for us is his own specialty. He irons our clothes, and make us breakfast everyday. He even brings breakfast for mom in bed. He's 74 now respected and loved by everyone. My mama always says how much she's lucky to have him.
_I agree with Aba, every relationship has to have it's balances. Everyone doesn't have to be traditional, as long as both people contribute there's no problem_
Responsibility, Accountability, and Authority. Ideally she assumes one half, and you get the other. If one is a codependent and/or a narcissist, there is no healthy balance. Never assume responsibility without authority, and if authority isn't respected/is-denied, and/or they trying to dump responsibility on you whilst they waive agency, GTFO. IMO it's better to treat em like cats. You don't have to own one to have one sit on your lap, and it's best not to, because unlike actual cats, you don't have the authority to get them chipped and spayed. (Being responsible, in exercising your authority, as a cat owner should).
@@lemmymemmy It's a double standard. She doesn't need your consent according to the government and judicial system. Until I'm afforded equal rights, marriage, LTRs, and cohabitation, are non-considerations. (Best treated like roaming cats IMO/E).
After 40 years of dating I'll respectfully disagree. Once you understand that the vast majority if not all woman function the same! SHE WILL NEVER RESPECT YOU IF YOU ARE A STAY AT HOME DAD! This woman is way 2 masculine that's not normal! She will never attract a high value man EVER! Simps only
I hate how tombstone fist bumps his son after saying he's king, cause that just makes me think tombstone and his wife are raising him to think women are beneath him
I hate how you sjw can't deal with men wanting to be kings and use your time to bitch about it instead of trying to be queens. Kings and queens fit well together.
“If you’ve ever had someone make you really vegan food it tastes fine” Thank you for saying this Aba. It’s all about the way I season my vegan meals. You’d never know you were eating lentils, chick peas, kidney beans etc.
The biggest problem I have with most vegan food that other people have cooked for me is that it is overly seasoned to the point of masking out the taste of whatever it was made out of. I don’t mind spices or seasoning but it should COMPLEMENT the food instead of mask it.
@@Wakka144 I am an Indian vegan and I love my countries food, but I also admire the simplicity in Japanese cuisine. Sometime I want to let the ingredients flavor shine through! It is interesting how western veganism is so different.
@@rumjhumgupta7137 yes! I love Indian food too and it is all about the flavors for me. I don’t want to disguise my vegetables to taste like a meat or to drown out the vegetables in sauce or overpowering seasonings,
Keaira now has two clothing lines, cookbook called “vegans don’t eat just lettuce,” workout videos, does workout challenges, a line of supplements, a line of workout things like resistance bands, and does a podcast with her husband.
"Big on helping with the children" Lady he's RAISING HIS KIDS :'D That's how i would also do it, damn. It's not going to be my wife's sole responsibility to raise OUR kids. I'm absolutely for 50/50 % involvement if it's possible.
nah, one parent puts roof over head. food in stomach, and clothes on back. and is the disciplinary parent. other parent is the one who spends a lot of time, coddles, babys. one parent teaches the children to be good humans. the other parent teaches them the reality of the world. its sad but true, im not saying that parents cant work together on these things. just pointing out this is legit how it works. think of all the "bad kids" you knew growing up. and think of all the "dumb ass" adults you know now. if you know their parents and dynamic. im sure they are lacking some of the things i mentioned. you cant have contradiction in the order of command. this is literally why jobs have so many types of managers. because the person that tells you when you work, the person that determines how much you get paid. and the person that yells at you, are not the same person.
@@dbspaceoditty no both parents are fully functional healthy adults and teach their children the same whatever that means every person should know the value of actual work and what it feel like to work for specified pay it humbles you to alot. But this idea of people being forced to live a type of way then only sharing a portion of their selves with their kids is why we have the damaged toxic traits we do nowadays
@@tyriqcollier5509 i never mentioned anything about only sharing a portion of their traits to the children. just pointing out how and why a proven dynamic used to work. funny how suicide rates started going up when properly parenting your children stopped being the social norm. i know correlation does not always mean causation. but the time lines match up.
I find that most of the men that ascribe to the "a womans place is in the kitchen" have not spent much time on their own. Generally speaking, after you have lived on your own for a while, you learn the value of helping, after having to work full time, feed yourself, and keep your place clean. An obvious exception are people that happily live like slobs and/or just order their food.
That woman coulda just left it at “I need to do these dishes” I just thought that was her personality. She HAD to add in “dishes is a woman’s place” ffs lol
Exactly well I think especially nowadays that’s more of an equality thing. Cause even when you just have roommates it’s annoying as FUCK when someone doesn’t do their share and that should be chalked up to their personality rather than their gender/sex
@aragot ra when Pompeii was destroyed via Eruption of Mount Vesuvius at the height of Roman Culture, Cooking was not part of the Middle Class itinerary. As eating on the way to the job or having dinner outside was middle class culture. (Take-away and Dine-in) Kitchens were only specific to higher echelon's of society who has the resources to have multiple house staff. Proof of these were in the ruins of Pompeii as houses of the middle class and craftsmens and hand workers has no kitchen spot. And houses with giant kitchens but no bedrooms or suites are laid scattered around the center of the city (restaurants) In the peak of Roman civilization, dining out was the culture. And cooking for the middle class were "unfit" for women who do other labours/ crafting. "A woman's place is where she stands her ground." -Art Van Der Wee
Aba fucks with Vegan food because he’s Ethiopian. Y’all got some fire non-meat dishes with fire spices. If I ever went vegan, I’m living off Indian cuisine.
@@old_grey_cat you’re right but Indian and Ethiopian seem to be the only ones I’ve found that were developed to not need meat to create the flavor profile. With others you can’t imagine them without meat whereas with Indian cuisine, you don’t really see the meat as necessary.
I’m actually a stay at home dad now, due the pandemic I’m still picking up on more and more of the at home stuff lol We just moved into this house too so we are all still figuring it out It’s not so bad being here with this child 😂 She doesn’t ask for much. The dogs are the most demanding part of it all 🐶 People need to ditch the archaic family structure and just do what makes them happy
"Do what makes you happy" or what is needed to survive. Sometimes a breadwinner mother and helper father is what's necessary to give the child (if they have one) the best upbringing.
i feel like they chose a very reasonable progressive couple and an extreme traditional one. Not even my grandma talks like that and she was born almost a century ago.
My grandma goes to gay weddings and wanted me to have a child out of wedlock at 25, “you don’t need to be married to have a child” 🤷♀️ some grandmas are progressive as hell.
Yo Tombstone is cool tho. He was accepting and did a lot of things if you check out the whole episode. His wife was making him do all that shit, he actually wants to work out and not have heart problems.
I'm all for traditional roles (I want to be a housewife myself), but this is just taking it to an extreme. It seems like that lady has been brainwashed. She seems like she's less of a life partner and more of a maid.
Not at all. You are not just to see it that’s all. I was with a Muslim woman and they are like that. It used to be funny since am a more western kinda guy but for them is normal. For example I told her you can wear other close like jeans etc. she was like no my body is your and no one else’s. The only thing you could see when she was out of the house was the eyes. For them seen a woman showing any kind of skin was insane even brainwashed
Traditional people complaining about other people not being traditional is JUST AS OBNOXIOUS and vegans complaining about other people not being vegan.
People complaining about traditionalists are (like yourself) are way more In your face about it. Cause they think they have a blessed Holy golden spoon implanted so far up their ass they think their opinions are worth a damn.
i agree, but i think just like veganism and traditionalism it is important to understand the good things while also recognising the bad things thats how you avoid being obnoxious just like you said
I was a kid expected to be seen and not heard. What I learned: It depended on the situation and also, when used responsibly, is a great way to teach a child to respect their elders and when and how to use their manners.
Just bc she goes along with his lifestyle doesn't mean she is a doormat. Good women have been behind men for years. You don't have to be loud and aggressive to get your voice heard.
@@libertylovingbeckles6797 The fact that you implied a woman is only "good" when she is behind a man is fucking sexist. I don't care how people want to live their lives, just don't project that onto everyone else. What's good for you isn't good for the rest of us that want to be our partner's equal.
@@chanhyun4412 ... okay? I never said I wanted gender roles to switch. I just personally prefer that the roles are more evenly distributed. If I were to become a mom one day, the idea of being a full time stay at home mom sounds miserable, so that's not for me. Anyway, good luck with your hunt for a submissive wife. Also, fuck off with your shaming of stay at home dads. Just let people live the way they want to live. Different family dynamics work for different people. This shouldn't be such a difficult or controversial concept to grasp, holy shit.
@@milenayashkina8641 you're the one shaming tombstone's life. I came to his defence you hypocrite. Why don't you take your own advice and let people live the way they want. I don't know where you get this notion of equal distribution? Women take care of the household and children (even when working) while the men take care of all other problems. There's no equal work.
That fist bump though, the kid is being encouraged to disrespect his mother. The real life adult examples of such upbringing are usually rotten humans.
Its his kid, let him teach what he thinks is important. Do you think Tombstone, the ultra tradionational male should go into other peoples' homes and worry about what they are teaching their children? If you arent passing your values onto your children then that means that you dont really buy into them yourself.
I mean, let's be honest, it's the mom's fault. You can clearly see she's rhe one enforcing this gender roles and making Thombstone be a doormat. So, he could either divorce her or accept the lifestyle. Of fourse he's to blame for just accepting it and doing nothing, but it's clear he can change and he's not the opressor who believes woman should be seen.not heard. She's the hypocrite one who says thag so she can pretend she has some value on the house, whem she doesn't even make meals from scratch and has tons of ramen noodles on the shelf, despite saying she's a traditional wife
@@vcamv2354 nah I feel like shes mega brain washed, either that or they're just perfect for each other, but that attitude should not be passed down to their kids
@@atomicx2157 brainwashed... By whom? Also, if you see the full episode, Thombstone and the kid were willingnto be more active in the house and change their lifestyle. It's clear the mom wants to live in a traditional wife fantasy and she's the one in control even if she puts herself as "the opressed". But, again, Tombstone also is at fault for letting this happen but yeah, maybe they're a perfect fit for each other. We can only br sorry for the kid
The biker guy was acting like a bum in the beginning of the episode. He wants traditional roles but he don’t even do “manly” stuff like cutting the grass. He does make drastic changes in the end. But the lady needs help
He works doesn't he? Women don't know real work - on average. Daddy's girls and all that. Spend time in hard man's role and you'd understand, but you don't want those jobs, you want the ones with crayons, and lots of money for doing nothing, or glamor or etc.
@@SadisticStang Traditionally cutting grass is considered a mans job which is my point. Personally it doesnt matter who cuts the grass. Men are the mostly responsible for these gender roles. Women are limited to certain area and then men complain about caring a load "heavy". Today both parents work, clean and care for the children. This guys goes to work then comes home to act like another child thats needs to be taken care of. Im sure she brushes his teeth. They can live how they wanna live but this guy twisting the idea being traditional so he be bum. Women will work the "hard" jobs if given the opportunities. A lot Women today go to work and come home to more work cuz their male counter doesnt want help with the children. I would rather go out and work then say home cleaning,cooking and caring for two children one that 7 and the other 45.
Cutting the grass is once a week minimum. Cooking, cleaning, child care is 24/7. (Aka women’s work)That mans just lazy period. She’s basically a single parent but worse.
@@katmossa3503 Gender roles aside, there are certain physiological differences between men and women despite the latest PC culture craze. For example, I never see women in my line of work as a land surveyor because the work is absolutely brutal on the body especially when doing a heavy line cutting job. Hell, even most men struggle to last longer than a month and thus there is extremely high turnover rate. I am not sure but I think that is what this person was trying to say with a whole lot of exaggeration and sarcasm added in.
@@gwestcot He was suggesting that most women want get a lot of money for doing pretty nothing except for playing crayons,fashion etc. He completely overlooked the fact that its difficult for women to enter male dominated industries. He thinks just cuz biker guy "works" doesnt mean he's too good scratch his own elbow. Yes men are more likely to end up doing tougher jobs ( there are obvious reasons for that). U cant say "oh women's place is in the kitchen" then turn and complain that ur carry most the weight even its up for on which one is more actually more work. Men and women are different but 90 percent of the time their capable of doing the same things given the opportunity.
My husband cooks for me sometimes especially after the gym and I cook for him as well. I do cook for the children mostly but he does when I need him to. We all clean and we all help one a other. It is crazy that people can not get passed the most basic living activities. We raise both genders so cook clean and provide for self.
Honestly, as a child living in a conservative household where my dad did none of the cleaning or cooking, I always thought my dad was just lazy. I still think that, my mom works the same hours as my dad, and has the same job as my dad, yet she is supposed to clean and cook for his ass? That's the main reason I hate traditional household, it's just men being lazy, and then the women doing all the work. Now, recently my mom has made my dad cook his own food and clean up his own stuff, she got tired of him being lazy as shit. Also, a lot of women will bring the traditional roles into the house themselves. I just don't like them and never will, me and my girlfriend both cook together, and we both clean up together. I seriously do not understand how cleaning and cooking makes you "Less of a man", hate the dumb shit.
I agree with you completely!! I don't agree with it either and my strengths aren't in cooking or cleaning. I hope I find a partner like the relationship you have where we BOTH do these things together. I hate these old traditional rules. Couples should do what works for them. Everyone's strengths/weaknesses/preferences are different.
Same shit here it honestly pissed me off growing up when my dad made me do shit to help out and I see his lazy ass not doing anything to help out. It didn’t help the fact that we already had a pretty distant relationship and I think is one of the main reasons that I grew to resent him as I grew older. Now my mom makes more money than him, spends more time at work than him and he still complains about the hours while as he watches TV while my mom slaves away at the dishes and housework.
@@victoryisforever769 That's how it is in my house hold anx exactly how I grew up, i remember that during fall I was the only one racking outside while he just sat inside. Shoveling too, and when i got older cutting the grass all the jobs he actually did got pushed to me once I turned 10. Dude was and still is lazy when it comes to chores.
I mean that isn't a traditional household in the truest sense. That would require the father being the sole breadwinner and the mother holding down the household duties. But ya if both have jobs then both should share responsibilities at home.
@@gwestcot I get that, but that's the modern "traditional" home. Most women are working now, and the men well, they just don't clean and cook haha. I have a lot of conservative female friends, and they complain constantly about their boyfriends not cooking or cleaning when they come over. So yeah, I agree it isn't actually traditional, but its the modern traditional house I feel.
@@olliwest7341 It's because she pushing her views to "Women" ....no b*tch that's not "Women" that you! Woman, singular.....if you want to say women find a woman that agreed with you and stand next to her. Then say "Us two women are.." 😑 don't try and claim your twisted views of that of all of all Women 🤮
There’s a difference between the idea of “gender roles” and roles in relationships/household. I think it’s important to have certain roles and responsibilities that make the household run smoothly, but to only think that a man/woman must hold a specific role is so close minded and arrogant to some extent.
@@Nawa11YT definitely different if both parties agreed on that type of relationship, but to believe its supposed to be like that for every relationship is what I’m referring to.
@@thatguyneef343 That's understandable. But let us not forget that people from both side of that spectrum look down on each other. It's like a paradox of who's right .
@@Nawa11YT in my opinion, if ur a women and u like to do the dishes then do the dishes , if ur a man and u like to take care of ur family then do that , but sayin “ ALL women should be doing what I’m doing “ or if man says “ ALL man should be doing what I’m doing “ is weird . Like if ur traditional that’s ok
@@dejaxyz311 I look at it From a Traditional/ Religious point of view. I also Couldn't care about people outside of my Cultural Sphere (The Arab world) I don't mind People doing their own things when they are not a part of my people. However, I do contest Unnecessary changes to Family Structure within my community.
Everyone's thought. There are so many guys who eat vegan at home, because they were 'asked' to, but would have burgers and steaks with friends when the missis is not around. Can't stand women who force their men to go vegan, especially since most of them fail to do the vegan thing right.
@@anzelaiv you maybe missed the part about she said she is the boss. Which says alot. I bet my life she didnt ask him but cuz she said so. The guy has no backbone.
“The King has to clean his home. He can’t enjoy it.” Lmao look how she didn’t even make herself the queen. She’s the damn palace wench. When’s the last time we’ve seen a queen out of exile cleaning something?
Aba, major respect for you around 7:18. My dad would belittle my mom growing up because "He was the man and it was his money and should be able to do whatever he wanted with it". He called her and his kids slaves. I have heard him verbally abuse her including calling her stupid and less attractive than what she used to be. He once made her cry while we were on our way to see her dad's grave site and kept her from seeing her grandma in her dying days. My idea of what marriage looks like is warped today because of it.
I imagine this is only but a miniscule consolation to you, but at least you recognise your dad's behaviour as warped. It hasn't fucked you up to the point where you rationalise that shit.
Yeah the fact that you see it as a problem is a step in right direction. Someone else in your situation might just give up and decide that its their destiny to suffer because their mum or dad did. God bless you.
My parents were partners, no one was submissive to the other, there was 6 kids we all helped with chores. My father worked nights so he was there to raise us mostly. Later in thier marriage he became the breadwinner and my mother handled the family finances, not because she was trying to dominate, frankly she was just better at it. That's how my husband and I operate were partners and we talk about what needs to be done and who's the best choice for the job. My husband's family was the opposite his dad tried to dominate the family instead of everyone working together. He wouldn't allow his mother to work. Even though he was not a good provider due to his drug use. She ended up losing thier home and had to live with family. On which my husband recalls as the most miserable time in his life. He has issues to this day he has not worked out from his toxic upbringing. My point is your pride can also be your downfall.
@ViktorMandus Rhaefnhyrst Codependents and Narcissist for the most part. It's what happens in a world full of single parents and kids having kids. Never taught how to deal with emotions in a healthy way.
@ViktorMandus Rhaefnhyrst Why is relativism not ok if there is no abuse? Your idea of "modern" society that's being "decayed" is your own. I dont agree with either of these couples and I personally couldnt date either of these women, but they both seem to be 50% of successful and happy relationships with a partner who compliments and values their ideals and core principles. Is happiness not the goal of a relationship? If that is achieved then why is your subjective idea of what you "think" it should be more relevant than their level of fulfillment and happiness in their lives? ... Hint .... its not
This topic concerns me a lot. Being a young man and going to have children in the future I have to be mindful of what type of father, spouse I'm going to be. I wanna be my best
Learning as you go, although somewhat true is horrible advice, imo. I suggest you have yourself together first, your money right, and the "right" kind of potential mother in your life. These 3 things are big, and can keep your kid off the streets and out of prison. As Dad, it isn't always about being the good guy. Be compassionate, but stern. Be the embodiment of tough love, the love that you future kids need, necessarily want. Everything will fall into place.
@@kgyeatman3569 you can have everything planned out to perfection and you will still come to a place you could never be prepared for. Parenting and Love is all about learning as you go. No book or advice can prepare you for any of what they potentially come with.
@@brittanyalonge I think planning is how you build up ways to handle what comes at you. Of course nothing will go exactly as planned but it gives you a baseline for how you want to handle the unplanned. For me specifically, books and advice help me remember the type of parent I strive to be so I don't act purely on emotion such as fear or anger. That's just how I learn and grow with my family though. Everyone does it different. Saying one way is better than the other doesn't allow for people to discover what works for them.
@@brittanyalonge I'm just given an approach as a father. There is a duality to a Father/Mother parenting that needs to be considered. There is a time for nurturing, and then there is a time to crack the whip, especially with our young black men. It's best to not learn this when your child is in his/her mid teens.
hey, first and foremost you be respectful and your partner should do the same, no gender role in that, that is a human being consistent. second off, yeah, learn as you go. your view might change or not, but as long as you two talk out how you want to live together and okay with the conclusion and continue to work it out, you and your spouse and children will have a happy life together. but remember, just like the tango, it takes two, so both of you should work it out.
I watched this episode. Tombstone actually in the end liked the change and the food. Even he was working out too. He really opened up and seemed happier.
Yep, same thought, immediately. Possibly not him abusing her, but someone at some point forced her into this mentality. A healthy person would still do all she does and not belittle themselves in the process.
you can though lol....meat and animal products are a luxury item for some, hence why people in some third world countries often depend on a plant-based diet.
Not related to the video but on another video, don't remember which one, Preach mentioned that having an I love you from your mum doesn't mean as much from your dad. I didn't agree when I first heard it but I decided to try out the same principal with the kids I tutor. I stopped saying well done all the time and only saying it when they did something particularly special. Then at the end I asked what they preferred. The girls said they missed the well done as they felt they had done something wrong for me to not say it. The boys, however, said they appreciated it more as they knew what they'd *actually* done well. Thanks for your insightful commentary, it's actually really beneficial for us young women😊
She’s a senior pick me and you can tell it by how she’s committed to telling everyone her traditional ways are the only way to do it, not just their own path.
Guarantee tombstone gets intimate alot with his wife. Where as the other couple with the pushover husband wants to but she is tired or only sees sex as a power thing to hold over him.
My husband is a stay at home dad and he’s still the king of the castle- I love taking care of my family and he loves taking care of us- that’s called a family. Period. Cleaning is a group activity bc kids are messy af. It’s called SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO CARE FOR A FAMILY!
Same. With Covid my brother's job was slow. So his wife works and he stays home. She said that she would like to keep this even after Covid. Because she doesn't want the baby to go to a daycare. She rather have the baby be with her father. My cousin has a similar situation. But her husband is hurt and can't work. So he stays home and takes care of their 3 kids. It works for them. And they're a team.
I've known stay at home dads, they ended up being caught doing sketchy stuff and having their own secret bank accounts and wasting all the money away. Unless the guy got rich off of something when he was young and able to retire early. It is just not healthy for men to be stay home anything. It is not good for mental health, they either get lazy or have something else going on. It is also why men when they retire, if they don't fill their time traveling or doing hobbies and keeping busy outside of the house. Many times they'll rapidly decline in health and mental health.
@@ddavis4730 it is men in general, hence why when men retire and do what his wife always has done, the man's mental health goes down. It is not about personal purpose, most men just work to provide for their family, their wife usually does the decorating and buying for most of the house. Another example is 2020, and the massive amount of men falling to depression, suicide, drugs, alcohol etc during their months of not being home.
I want to see Tombstone square up with the “stay at home dad”. Everyone wants to talk about masculinity etc, but if you can’t out fight the “stay at home dad” you can’t speak on what’s mainly or not you just another guy running his mouth lol.
A woman's or a man's place is where their strengths lie best, imo. If you are a stay at home dad, cool. If you are a working mom, cool. Prefer a traditional role? Also perfectly cool. So long as it is fulfilling to you and it builds a foundation of strength with your partner, that is what matters.
the only memories I have with my mom is her beating me lmao, but the memories I have with my dad - cooking together, going on walks and shopping together, watching movies together
and he was working 12h night shifts - every day in and out he used to go to sleep at 6.30 and wake up at 7.30 to walk me to school right after work - I don't know how he did what he did but he was amazing
Whatever works in someone’s relationship if being traditional is what works then it works if splitting everything 50/50 works then it works whatever feels right for the people in said relationship
@@ma_na_gurab bruv you do realise I'm a guy right just look at my name highly doubt there is a female named Anthony unless it's a last name lady in the pic ain't me
This short version of that episode makes tombstone look bad but in the end review scene it was really sweet how he spoke with his wife about how he wants to feel comfortable in his home and help. It was her that prevented him from doing so.
I agree with Preach how ever a couple decide to govern their relationship, household and family as long as it is healthy go for it. It took my husband and I 14 years to figure out "tradition" did not work for us. Once we agreed on how we wanted things so much weight was lifted, it is not set in stone either.
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This woman is acting like she's all "traditional" and doesn't even know how to cook. Absolute tears LMAO
It's just drama for the show
@ShadowMapleLeaf if she knew how to cook, it could ( should) have been something she knew before even meeting him. It is also very possible to cook junkfood, just look at fastfood places.
@ShadowMapleLeaf True, I was too hasty to judge on that, thank you for pointing it out to me:) Honestly, I appreciate it. Take care, and be well:)
@ShadowMapleLeaf stop defending a jackass
@ShadowMapleLeaf Ramen noodles? There are plenty of wildly unhealthy food that is delicious. Ramen is hardly even food in my opinion.
"a woman's place is in the kitchen, a man's place is in the kitchen, because there's food in there." Most wholesome thing I've heard all week
You won the internet
Does nobody eat in the dining room anymore? I'm concerned
@@RafaelValle12 The dining room has been degraded to place with expensive untouchable items
@@KoKAPONe_ the dining room is where you flex on your family
@@RafaelValle12 the dining has been delegated as extra storage space
It seem like tombstone wife don’t even have an identity. She’s just... wife
What an honorable identity it is.
@@kgyeatman3569 lmfaooooo what my guy
@@elizabethleon4144 something wrong?
More like maid!!
That's what happens when you're in a traditional house, all you do is cook, clean, and take care of the kids. I bet the only thing she does with her free time is either shop or watch tv. I mean, if that's the life she wants, then by all means, but man fuck that.
I like how when she said that’s the women’s place he looked at his own daughters and said NO. Because he didn’t want them to believe this nonsense
Not the only place just usually the best 😉
@@brandongillette35 Shurmano, tas tonto o ke? tas bobo?
@@brandongillette35 so original my guy
@@cosmo588 no u
I don't think kids understand that.
Wife swap was low-key weird but educational.
Yeah definitely insightful learnt a lot too mainly what not to do
No, it’s definitely weird, low key educational 😅
For real, you learn more about the human anatomy by watching wife swa... Oh, you meant the reality show....
Low-key weird or low-key educational? Because I find this very high-key weird.
Its lame and scripted... My friend Cade was on it, then got roasted on The Soup!
My very "masculine" Jamaican dad is the one who did (and still does at 82) all the cooking in our household. My mom was "lucky" if he let her into his kitchen every now and then to cook something. He still hovers over any of us if we're cooking something in his kitchen or try to wash the dishes (because we "aren't doing it right"). He also did all the sewing and mending, grocery shopping, gardening, and any fixing/house repairs; while mom does laundry, house cleaning, and household goods shopping. It's not about "masculine" and "feminine" roles, it's about what each person does best, enjoys more, or has time for. I could never be with a man who believes in this "women's place" bs. I was raised better than that.
My Jamaican father cooked a lot as well! I remember that very clearly from my childhood. My dad knew how to do all the things you mentioned and stressed that myself and my siblings know how to do them as well.
Wish I could find a guy like that. I hate cooking and cleaning but I have no problem doing it. My dad was military and mom was a stay at home wife she did the majority of the house hold work but my dad had no problem cooking and cleaning even at times telling my mom to kick back or go out while he took care of us(3 girls) and the house.
@@herelookinatu I personally think cooking and cleaning is an aspect of our essence as humans. What you prepare to eat to keep you alive and making your environment tidy to stay healthy should be a second nature to everyone, man or woman. But hey, what do I know!
@@jayaustin1939 I totally agree with you however so many people bring it up in a debate of gender roles and why women should do more of it then men. I'm a good cook and a little ocd when it comes to cleaning but I really can't stand to do it. That's why I mentioned wanting a guy that didn't have a problem doing those things without feeling like he is less then a man. Because as you said and I do believe that they are just basic things in life you have to do.
I'm from jamaica and the concept of "masculine" and "feminine" varies by culture and time period. I ln Jamaica it is considered masculine to be a good cook and to be very clean. My dad would force me to wash my sneakers right after I wear them and he also thought me to do laundry early because a man is to look presentable at all times. But going back in time Men use to wear heels, wigs and makeup in the victorian era in england. The scotts men wore skirts, japanese men used to wear kimono (which looks like dresses). Social norms change all the time.
"So you're big on helping with the children?"
No, I'm "big" on being a good father to MY CHILDREN. TF!
that part
fuck no.
hes being the nurturer which is feminine when your do that alot.
that's why his wife made em go vegan hes soft he has no say so
@@BIGDREAMER444 u toxic af lmao
@@jaydenson8580 I bet she wears the pants .
@@BIGDREAMER444 bet she let him slide them pants off whenever he want though being a good partner like that 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I grew up in a pull your weight type of household. My dad taught me and my sisters it ain't a woman thing or a man thing. It's life lesson to carry the weight
being a plow horse is a pretty stupid life lesson
@@cooljool1 making an assumption is stupid no 🧢
Exactly!!!
@@cooljool1 it is if that's the end goal. It is if all you ever are is some "burro" to be whipped and taken advantage of by others.
It's a quality when that's a part of your character. It's a quality when that part of you, the part that can get shit done, enables you to be a better person and shows people your worth.
So how about quit the half baked comments and carry your weight in the conversation.
Mustve been intresting growing up with your 40 siblings, on the O'Neal farm /s
I hate how people use “plenty of people have tried to change me over the years and none have succeeded” as a badge of honor. Like maybe there’s a reason so many people have tried to change you, instead of appreciating you for who you are.
@@alex_mcclay speak your truth g. I’ve been there myself. That’s why I’m not bending anymore
@@alex_mcclay I think JK's point is that he seems proud that he knows everything. It's like that Muhammed Ali quote 'the man who has the same views at 20 and 50 has wasted 30 years of his life.'
I watched the full episode. I actually really like him. They showed his soft side
Fact
@@mynamemylast936 is there a link?
Preach is trying very hard to explain that he's not in a bike gang...lol
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Maybe he's bike curious?
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@@AxxLAfriku that's what happens when you eat the entire muffin
I love to cook, and I hate doing dishes. My wife loves my cooking, and doesn't mind doing the dishes. We split the rest of the chores.
You can work too......
@@ameilialawrence8380 reading is fundamental
And that’s the way it should be. If someone doesn’t want to do everything, splitting chores is always a good option.
Husband and I both work. I do most of the cooking and he’ll do the dishes during or afterwards and vice versa. Weekends I do more of the cleaning because he’s in class all day Saturday and studying Sundays for advancement exams. So I pick up the slack. His class was cancelled during the winter storm so he helped split the chores I usually do. House got cleaned faster and we both got to be couch potatoes and enjoy each other’s company. It’s just a matter of finding what works for you and your marriage/relationship.
@@ameilialawrence8380 ayo were you reading this with soap in your eyes
thought the white lady was just gonna stay silent when the husband came in bc she’s not supposed to be heard
In her eyes that dude is the epitome of a beta, that's why she can talk to him on equal levels.
@@Scrubermensch She'll be none the wiser too that he's in fact more manly than "tombstone" himself.
@@Scrubermensch nah she knows the black man is a mature adult to have a civil conversation with unlike her man baby tombstone who'll throw a big baby tantrum if she asks him to clean his room or clean up after himself
@@Scrubermensch the fact that you called something a beta unironically just shows that you are one yourself
@@kittennight3305 sure brother
"Vegan food is not the problem, the problem is vegans" 😆
Realeast shit I ever read !
If that ain’t the truth
Preach !!
It's one of those situations where a wild minority of the identity acts up so wild that it ruins it for the rest. So yes, vegans are the problem, AND their own worst enemy.
Erin is fuming right now
"A woman should be seen and not heard, the man gets to decide how the house runs!" - woman telling the man how the house runs.
That was so funny to me.
I'm dead 🤣
Exactly! Nothing about her made logical sense...
Mr Pot attempt to expose Ms Pot of being black. No one in this comment tread has no logical sense.
Lmaooo 😂🤣 she's so dumb she didn't even realize that
Wife-"because that is a woman's place"
'new husband'- "No"--- the way he said it 🤣💀
Funny thing is she couldn't defend her position bc she doesn't think she has a right to talk... Cringe af
He said it like that cause he’s afraid his real wife might have heard the conversation later. She’s definitely the one wearing the pants in that house she said she was the boss he has no nuts he very weak
@@robertcarter408 he’s not weak, just because he doesn’t follow your dynamic doesn’t mean that he’s weak or less than you, she literally told him not to be near his own children. If you think THAT IS a man, you’re the weak one
@@j.j7464 lol you must one of those beta males whose woman wear the pants in your family
@@robertcarter408 what's wrong with that? Not every man is meant to be a leader or is able to be a leader
In defense of tombstone and his wife... they really changed by the end of the episode. They turned out to be really good people who made real efforts to change their view points.
I think she even told Kiera that she wanted to be like her at the end of the episode.
I wonder how much if this show is script 😂
Well he started out just like she said at the beginning, a motorbike thug and sexist
Plus, we should also remember the producers have a narrative in mind and will cut footage to suit that. Some of Tombstone’s responses sounded like he was responding to a slightly different question & I highly doubt the letters the wives read weren’t at least heavily edited by showrunners
It was really sweet
What episode is this
*“It takes a special woman to tolerate him”*
This’ll be interesting
if it takes a special woman to tolerate him, he shouldnt be tolerated at all lmao
Apparently Tombstone was actually pretty open to the stuff and a cool guy. I guess it was the wife who was all old fashioned and whatnot.
I watched other clips from that episode, he was actually a sweetheart. He helped the lady cook and enjoyed the vegan food. The wife was the problem.
Do you have the link to the full episode?
Shaded him low key
I'm old fashioned in a lot of ways. i have no problem cooking and cleaning but as soon as someone tells me that i had better be seen and not heard and all i'm good for is cooking and cleaning, i'm out. that is so disrespectful.
Right. Those are the roles I choose because I like to cook, clean, and take care of my baby. I'm lucky enough to get to do so. But if that was what I was told to do, you bet that man would never have another clean pair of underwear in this whole life.
I just watched the whole episode. Surprisingly it was the wife that thought and said that. Tombstone was actually open minded about vegan food, cooking, and cleaning when it was all said and done.
She’s a brainwashed pick me girl
Agreed
That’s how it should be tho.. seen not heard.. if I have company u shouldn’t be out here trying to I be the center of attention.. bitch go find something to do it’s men speaking .. the Bible even says the same thing
Agree with Preach on the dishes part
"If you can put it in the sink, you can clean it."
Boooo!!
Depends on how many dishes were dirtied prior, then it would be more efficient if they just did all of them together if their is a lot. But if it is just your dishes then wash your own.
I haven't cleaned a dish or washed a piece of clothing in my life. I grew up in the south though.
I mean, I live alone so who TF is going to do it for me?...XD
And waste water cleaning 1 dish.
The "Traditional Lady" had me weak. What she be cooking water?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fr, it easy to be the only one in the kitchen if you just make ramen
Her: Believes in old-fashioned values
Also her: Pantry's full of ramen noodles
😂🤡 As an old fashioned woman she should be making meals from scratch.
That got n- sorry I- 🤨
Yea where my hommade gravy and pie nigga
True, at the same time she’s doing much more than most women would be willing to
Dead😂😂
not true she makes what he wants which is bad food
I really like seeing a black man being hands-on with his daughters
@@erakatt 😂😂😂 No. I reread my comment and it sounds all types of wrong. I can laugh at myself.
Sweet
Home Alabama...
That can be interpreted very differently
I feel you brotha😂. Anything can damn near be taken in a multitude of ways but we not finna ruin this dad’s image/character. I know what u meant bruh. Happy to see the dad very involved in his kids life. Especially his daughters! I’m a young adult nowhere near having kids, but I can definitely respect a man whos a great father to his daughters! Nothing wrong with having girls and boys, or just one or the other, but shoutout to Kobe and The Girl Dads out there 💯. Keep doing y’all thing
Maybe “being present in his daughters lives” is better
If someone cleaned my apartment everyday I’d just feel guilty when trying to relax.
Same I would clean it too
What if it's a house cleaner
@@earloflemongrab1290 i would still feel guilty
same.
@Comrade Doggo But you're paying for it at that point, it's transactional
So there is another clip of when the wife's swap rules and Kp's wife has Tombstone and his son help in the kitchen and it shows a whole other side to him. The wife is actually the one who makes that "it's a woman's place" rule in my opinion. She makes KP sit still even when he wants a glass of water she fetches it for him. It's wild
Interesting, kinda wish they played out the whole video!
@@lizziejay5362 yeah shes like trying to run circles and do 33434 things at once and it made KP very uncomfortable bc it was over the top, like it really was played up.
I figured both families were a little more open to suggestion than the show was letting on.
@@bankrupt_batman yeah, it's definitely scripted
That is what I wanted to see in this review. To show that sometimes, some men do want to do more around the house to feel like they can contribute more and feel connected with the house and partner they are supporting, besides being a walking wallet. That unhealthy eating style of just ramen noodles and packaged foods must be killing his arteries too. Looks like "traditional wife" wants him to be a literal Tombstone for real. 💀The dude looks like he could have an early stroke or heart attack and never come out of it ever. 😰I think that swap made a positive impact, if not mentally, at least physically from a health perspective.
She’s in the kitchen all day making him unhealthy meals? She’s trying to kill him fast. Extra butter and sugar on everything. I wonder if she has life insurance on him?
@Amber W 💀💀💀
It does not take all day to boil ramen and open a cold one!😂
😭😭😭😭
There's nothing unhealthy about that though. Tired of people knowing nothing about nutrition/food.
@@spiritsama51 gurl what. Butter is high in fat
I loved when the "woman in her place" shaded the other for a couple dishes in the sink meanwhile she had the exact same amount left in hers. 🙄 And her Idea of being in the kitchen consists of microwaving fish sticks.
yeah, can she really brag about being in the kitchen when she's just boiling ramen noodles? lmao
@@GirliP0p182 LMAO
Dead ass. A "real woman" without a single vitamin in her body. She's gonna have some real osteoporosis.
@@1a2b3c4d2847 lmao dead
I swear
"When Kiara said she was a vegan, it scared me." lmao, why? What did an avocado ever do to Tombstone?
She is actually a well know fitness trainer with almost 1mil subs
You don't want to know
I remember avocados were on the no list in the 90s because people didn’t know the the difference between bad fat and good fat.
I remember avocados were on the no list in the 90s because people didn’t know the the difference between bad fat and good fat.
well, considering mexican cartells are killing hundreds a year for supremacy over avocado plantages, i would fear them too. :^)
Biggest issue is that woman saying "women should be seen and not heard" in front of little girls!
People really do get on my nerves sometimes: no woman or man should be bossing her/his spouse around!!!! Marriage should be a partnership not a dictatorship.
According to who?
@@spiritsama51 to facts. Your spouse isn’t called a partner if it isn’t about partnership. What do you think marriage is about?
Unfortunately, all that war of genders wouldn't even exist if we would have only good people in our lives... truly good people don't treat others as if they are beneath them and don't think that their opinion is the only right one.
@@anzelaiv someone has to be the leader in the relationship. Forget the 50/50 bullshit.
@@nottheone831 "someone" doesn't have to be anything, when people really care for one another, they will work it out as they go, but when they follow some idea and their own ego, they start fighting over leadership or 50/50.
Most of men want to be leaders and that's a good thing, but a real leader never mentions he is a leader, he just does the work and no one questions it, because he does it right. That's why when in a relationship you feel the need to remind a woman you are a leader, you've already failed.
"He don't cook, he don't clean, but he still got that ring."
Sauron would love to obtain such ring of power.
@@nova_supreme8390 lol, nice one
im more on the white family side... women care for men and men provide
@@kingswordisbodoubleS sounds nice, don't push it on others tho
@@kingswordisbodoubleS obvious troll
"The problem is not vegan food, it's vegans", I'm so going to use this one
Nah it's the food haha. I was vegan seven years, destroyed my body. I'm only in my 20s and have so many health conditions I have to heal from now. Eating meat for the last 6 months has already drastically improved my health. There;s a very small number who can do well on this diet for years.
@@sorchx thanks for proving the point
@@jasperklingen6964 How did I prove the point? I wasn't implying that there's no preachy vegans. I'm saying that it is also the food that's the problem since they seem to be advocating for the diet.
@@sorchx Sorry to hear that dude :(( My mom's vegetarian, when she first transitioned into vegetarianism her doctor told her to keep eating eggs because she was in her 40s and her body wouldn't adjust well. Does she have health problems? Yeah. All the imaginable ones. I mean, there are other contributing factors to her poor health too, but I don't imagine being vegetarian (she recently went full-off eggs) has been helping, especially with her lifestyle.
@@noelstar1456 I thought that most became vegans to be healthy. Doesn't seem like it's that healthy. In other words, it shouldn't be the only reason I think.
Wife ASKED him. That’s how relationships work Karen.
Guarantee the wife made him but throwing your wife under the bus on tv and in front of the kids is bad and he’s a good dude so 🤷🏾♂️
@@justinmoore8934And also 50% chance she asked and he was open to trying it. We don't know and can't assume.
@@justinmoore8934can’t know for sure so we shouldn’t assume. But I’d be curious to know what her reaction would’ve been if he said no.
She's seems like the type, that if Tombstone got beat up, she'd leave him for the guy that won the fight.
That's 100% accurate
Most will sadly, they want to "climb the ladder", to bad that hitting 30 is the end for them, most never recover and go on to hate man for being man.
If the guy will take her lol
That’s my biggest fear. Imagine how shitty that would feel
@@blacknemesy who hurt you?
"I am not calling a white person Nick Cannon" bless you Preach. Lookin' out for us.
I almost choked on my coffee at that part lmao
What does it mean? 😂😂😂
Lol omg
😭🤣🤣
I don't get it
"Women should be seen not heard"
PRODUCERS: *Let's send him the loudest woman on the planet*
That's the point of the show. Have two extreme ideologies be exposed to the other to hopefully find a healthy balance between the two extremes
@moko they don’t mean physically loud they mean she’s very passionate about her beliefs
@@keliniajohnson9397
Seems more about mocking non-sjw families tbh.
@@Damesanglante if you take a tribal stance in it
*blackest
The fact his own wife said "it takes a special woman to tolerate him" shows that she knows no one wants her man. 😅
Why is the white woman clutching her pearls so hard at a man being involved with his kids and helping out?? 😂😂😂
@@quesoqueso7598 Facts
Because that's her job. You wouldn't like it if someone took your job now would you?
Everybody has their way of contributing to the family and communicating which brings balance!!
She's surprised the father was in their lives, even more that he was a stay at home dad lmao
@Lateisha Jordan it’s fine if you don’t like it, as long as it works for you and your relationship is happy and healthy in that dynamic, you’re doing good. the only issue arises when you judge others for what works for them (not trying to say you did! i didn’t get that vibe from what you said, just giving my own input)
" a women should be seen and not heard" I guess I'm part of the house decorations.
😂😅
Awwe good guess love
Guess I'm a lamp now lmao
@@saffy771 if your partner says "you light up my world " you'll at least know why XD
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This show still runnin? I forgot all about this.
Same haha last time I watched this show was in 2008
Cancel culture must’ve got to it. Women being passed to different homes like property... they defo had to get that off air
Its a reboot type of deal
@@MrMeMyselfandI what are you talking about? The women aren't being passed they agree to do this ridiculousness freely.
Yes I think this episode came out last year they rebooted it
My dad cooks most of the time🥰 and does most of the outside work. He truly seems to enjoy it. My mom does most of the inside housework and laundry. HOWEVER, she specifically, cannot touch is lawn and he cannot touch their laundry. He washed the laundry once and she was so upset she mowed his grass😂😂😂. (Apparently their's an art to mowing grass she doesn't know, and he shrinks clothes.) Yes, they're nuts, but u gotta love em.😅
This sounds exactly like my parents, ever since we moved to the USA
Same here
My mom helped with the grass cutting but would. It allow my dad to touch anyone’s laundry 😂. You are correct It is an art form with mowing grass 😂.
When people say " you cant change me" i automatically think that person has a very unpleasent personality. Hard pass.
Same,cause people that say that usually aren't pleasant people
True!!
Facts! Change is needed to grow 💕
Or maybe he's had a lot of people try to change him so they could exploit him. It's a defense mechanism.
Plus, they are always assuming the other person wants to change them and therefore act super defensive. Childish and immature in my opinion. You can try new things and go back to your old habits - no biggie......unless, in reality, you are afraid your old habits may be "crap" and you aren't "man enough" to accept that.
“Vegan food is not the problem, the problem is Vegans” * *cough* * * *cough* * *“ERIN”* * *cough* *
Lmao
Do not mention that witch's name here!
@@nova_supreme8390 Bro said “witch” I’m wheezing🤣💀💀.
Word
🤣
I feel like the reason why she is so defensive about where a woman's place is because otherwise she would have no place in her household, which is so sad. Traditional values doesn't mean being a doormat. My husband and I have more or less traditional roles, but we see each other as equals in minds and value.
Traditional values are so weird. They're so flawed, inefficient, and pointless. There's no basis other than magical sky daddy's.
If both members contribute to housework it is done faster giving more free time for activities. You make a mess you clean it up? Is your wife a slave? How pathetic. What kind of a man has to have a woman wipe his azz?
I bet this guy can't do anything without his girl and his fragile ego won't let him admit it. I value skillsets, action, responsibility, maturity, and performance. These are foreign concepts to traditionalist.
@@rye-bread5236 traditional(or more so a biblical view) wasn't about wiping a man's ass, it was simply woman stay home, man go and work(it can bring balance just as a modern relationship does). Where the problem lies is the fact that men started to believe that women were simply doormats or birthing machines, which shouldn't be the case.
What does that mean
@@olisiapowell1212 very true
@@olisiapowell1212🧢🧢🧢
My dad does his dishes and sometimes ours. He cooks certain dishes as well. Making tea for us is his own specialty. He irons our clothes, and make us breakfast everyday. He even brings breakfast for mom in bed. He's 74 now respected and loved by everyone. My mama always says how much she's lucky to have him.
_I agree with Aba, every relationship has to have it's balances. Everyone doesn't have to be traditional, as long as both people contribute there's no problem_
Responsibility, Accountability, and Authority. Ideally she assumes one half, and you get the other. If one is a codependent and/or a narcissist, there is no healthy balance. Never assume responsibility without authority, and if authority isn't respected/is-denied, and/or they trying to dump responsibility on you whilst they waive agency, GTFO.
IMO it's better to treat em like cats. You don't have to own one to have one sit on your lap, and it's best not to, because unlike actual cats, you don't have the authority to get them chipped and spayed. (Being responsible, in exercising your authority, as a cat owner should).
Consent
@@lemmymemmy It's a double standard. She doesn't need your consent according to the government and judicial system. Until I'm afforded equal rights, marriage, LTRs, and cohabitation, are non-considerations. (Best treated like roaming cats IMO/E).
After 40 years of dating I'll respectfully disagree.
Once you understand that the vast majority if not all woman function the same! SHE WILL NEVER RESPECT YOU IF YOU ARE A STAY AT HOME DAD!
This woman is way 2 masculine that's not normal! She will never attract a high value man EVER! Simps only
@@johnk6534 yea the husband is a simp. The wife is the boss and demanded he become a vegan. Trash man.
I hate how tombstone fist bumps his son after saying he's king, cause that just makes me think tombstone and his wife are raising him to think women are beneath him
Lmao shut up
They are.
I hate how you sjw can't deal with men wanting to be kings and use your time to bitch about it instead of trying to be queens.
Kings and queens fit well together.
@@Damesanglante
As if every men is a king, if you think you’re above anyone else because of your gender then you’re trash not a king.
@@CassidyStarke
Some men want to. If they want that, why not ?
Today there are 58545638 genders, so why not wanting to be king, queen or tower ? xD
“If you’ve ever had someone make you really vegan food it tastes fine” Thank you for saying this Aba. It’s all about the way I season my vegan meals. You’d never know you were eating lentils, chick peas, kidney beans etc.
The biggest problem I have with most vegan food that other people have cooked for me is that it is overly seasoned to the point of masking out the taste of whatever it was made out of. I don’t mind spices or seasoning but it should COMPLEMENT the food instead of mask it.
@@Wakka144 I am an Indian vegan and I love my countries food, but I also admire the simplicity in Japanese cuisine. Sometime I want to let the ingredients flavor shine through! It is interesting how western veganism is so different.
@@rumjhumgupta7137 yes! I love Indian food too and it is all about the flavors for me. I don’t want to disguise my vegetables to taste like a meat or to drown out the vegetables in sauce or overpowering seasonings,
Keaira now has two clothing lines, cookbook called “vegans don’t eat just lettuce,” workout videos, does workout challenges, a line of supplements, a line of workout things like resistance bands, and does a podcast with her husband.
Good for her!
Your point ??
@@Shiroyashasama I found his comment informative. So maybe that was the point
Thank you for this info. I'll check all of those out. Also don't listen to idiots like the one 2 comments above
Looks like we found someone's alt account.
"Big on helping with the children" Lady he's RAISING HIS KIDS :'D That's how i would also do it, damn. It's not going to be my wife's sole responsibility to raise OUR kids. I'm absolutely for 50/50 % involvement if it's possible.
like bruh, you know how many kids want a father to be around them?
nah, one parent puts roof over head. food in stomach, and clothes on back. and is the disciplinary parent.
other parent is the one who spends a lot of time, coddles, babys.
one parent teaches the children to be good humans. the other parent teaches them the reality of the world.
its sad but true, im not saying that parents cant work together on these things. just pointing out this is legit how it works.
think of all the "bad kids" you knew growing up. and think of all the "dumb ass" adults you know now.
if you know their parents and dynamic. im sure they are lacking some of the things i mentioned.
you cant have contradiction in the order of command. this is literally why jobs have so many types of managers.
because the person that tells you when you work, the person that determines how much you get paid. and the person that yells at you, are not the same person.
@@dbspaceoditty no both parents are fully functional healthy adults and teach their children the same whatever that means every person should know the value of actual work and what it feel like to work for specified pay it humbles you to alot. But this idea of people being forced to live a type of way then only sharing a portion of their selves with their kids is why we have the damaged toxic traits we do nowadays
@@dbspaceoditty That's not even remotely accurate.
@@tyriqcollier5509 i never mentioned anything about only sharing a portion of their traits to the children.
just pointing out how and why a proven dynamic used to work.
funny how suicide rates started going up when properly parenting your children stopped being the social norm.
i know correlation does not always mean causation.
but the time lines match up.
I find that most of the men that ascribe to the "a womans place is in the kitchen" have not spent much time on their own. Generally speaking, after you have lived on your own for a while, you learn the value of helping, after having to work full time, feed yourself, and keep your place clean. An obvious exception are people that happily live like slobs and/or just order their food.
That woman coulda just left it at “I need to do these dishes” I just thought that was her personality. She HAD to add in “dishes is a woman’s place” ffs lol
Tbh dishes aside, its pretty unattractive if a woman cant cook.
Exactly well I think especially nowadays that’s more of an equality thing. Cause even when you just have roommates it’s annoying as FUCK when someone doesn’t do their share and that should be chalked up to their personality rather than their gender/sex
@aragot ra what if she is working full time and it's her house you're living in?
@aragot ra when Pompeii was destroyed via Eruption of Mount Vesuvius at the height of Roman Culture, Cooking was not part of the Middle Class itinerary. As eating on the way to the job or having dinner outside was middle class culture. (Take-away and Dine-in)
Kitchens were only specific to higher echelon's of society who has the resources to have multiple house staff. Proof of these were in the ruins of Pompeii as houses of the middle class and craftsmens and hand workers has no kitchen spot.
And houses with giant kitchens but no bedrooms or suites are laid scattered around the center of the city (restaurants)
In the peak of Roman civilization, dining out was the culture.
And cooking for the middle class were "unfit" for women who do other labours/ crafting.
"A woman's place is where she stands her ground."
-Art Van Der Wee
Well it’s actaully human woman like to take care of people while man like to take care of things we are equal but not the same
Aba fucks with Vegan food because he’s Ethiopian. Y’all got some fire non-meat dishes with fire spices.
If I ever went vegan, I’m living off Indian cuisine.
Indian food is 🔥 no 🧢
Such a range of asian and south american and african options, shame to limit it.
@@old_grey_cat you’re right but Indian and Ethiopian seem to be the only ones I’ve found that were developed to not need meat to create the flavor profile. With others you can’t imagine them without meat whereas with Indian cuisine, you don’t really see the meat as necessary.
@@y.o.s6000 you have not seen it all. How many African food have you eaten asides Ethiopia?
@@allthingsafrica9122 Nigerian and Ghanaian.
Preach’s laugh at the beginning sounds like a whole seagull
That's the haitian laugh its just how we laugh
@@XNYDNTE It was a joke. And yes, he sounded like a seagull
@@concamon1364 I know it was a joke???? And that's what I addressed in my comment
Ears be smartin
💀☠
I’m actually a stay at home dad now, due the pandemic
I’m still picking up on more and more of the at home stuff lol
We just moved into this house too so we are all still figuring it out
It’s not so bad being here with this child 😂
She doesn’t ask for much. The dogs are the most demanding part of it all 🐶
People need to ditch the archaic family structure and just do what makes them happy
"Do what makes you happy" or what is needed to survive. Sometimes a breadwinner mother and helper father is what's necessary to give the child (if they have one) the best upbringing.
@@atrain3441 we do! I totally agree 💯💯💯💯💯
i feel like they chose a very reasonable progressive couple and an extreme traditional one. Not even my grandma talks like that and she was born almost a century ago.
Most likely scripted like many other “reality” shows.
Yup. Just a set up for most drama possible. Not to actually learn anything. Just for drama. Glad I stay FAR AWAY from reality TV bullshit.
My grandma goes to gay weddings and wanted me to have a child out of wedlock at 25, “you don’t need to be married to have a child” 🤷♀️ some grandmas are progressive as hell.
This is just another way to say that traditional families are bad.
Thats the point of the show. Families who have identical values don't make entertaining tv
Yo Tombstone is cool tho. He was accepting and did a lot of things if you check out the whole episode. His wife was making him do all that shit, he actually wants to work out and not have heart problems.
oh shit I gotta watch that. what's the episode name? Or can I just find it with a youtube search?
@@canofsoda i want know too😅
I believe the episode is season 2 episode 3 Villalpando vs. Price
@@canofsoda right here bud
Yeah he ended up really liking the vegan soulfood too
I'm all for traditional roles (I want to be a housewife myself), but this is just taking it to an extreme. It seems like that lady has been brainwashed. She seems like she's less of a life partner and more of a maid.
Same and I agree with you
Not at all. You are not just to see it that’s all. I was with a Muslim woman and they are like that. It used to be funny since am a more western kinda guy but for them is normal. For example I told her you can wear other close like jeans etc. she was like no my body is your and no one else’s. The only thing you could see when she was out of the house was the eyes. For them seen a woman showing any kind of skin was insane even brainwashed
Being a housewife IS being a maid. The only difference is the sex and marriage part
What a housewife is if not a maid?
@@JT-ct2bn stay at home dad/mom is a free maid, in a away.
You just described why learning about compatibility is so important!!!!!! Balance is key 🔑
Traditional people complaining about other people not being traditional is JUST AS OBNOXIOUS and vegans complaining about other people not being vegan.
I disagree. Vegans are more in your face about it
@@the010og I disagree. Traditionalist are more in your face with it.
People complaining about traditionalists are (like yourself) are way more In your face about it. Cause they think they have a blessed Holy golden spoon implanted so far up their ass they think their opinions are worth a damn.
@@puppy3908 well since you stated your own opinion does that mean you also have a holy golden spoon n your butt? Or is your opinion not worth a damn?
i agree, but i think just like veganism and traditionalism it is important to understand the good things while also recognising the bad things thats how you avoid being obnoxious just like you said
I heard this comment as a kid.
"Kids should be seen and not heard"
@That Haven Realm yep, a bad parent though.
They wanted to *see* you?! 🤩 My parents told me to shut up AND fuck off!
@@pirateman1144 Sadly, I can relate
I was a kid expected to be seen and not heard. What I learned:
It depended on the situation and also, when used responsibly, is a great way to teach a child to respect their elders and when and how to use their manners.
This reminded me of Killgrave
"It takes a special woman to tolerate (Tombstone)"... I'm sorry, but a doormat isn't special and nor is it a personality trait 🙃
Just bc she goes along with his lifestyle doesn't mean she is a doormat. Good women have been behind men for years. You don't have to be loud and aggressive to get your voice heard.
You prefer the stay at home dad?😂😂😂 I'd rather be tombstone and have a wife that follows.
@@libertylovingbeckles6797 The fact that you implied a woman is only "good" when she is behind a man is fucking sexist. I don't care how people want to live their lives, just don't project that onto everyone else. What's good for you isn't good for the rest of us that want to be our partner's equal.
@@chanhyun4412 ... okay? I never said I wanted gender roles to switch. I just personally prefer that the roles are more evenly distributed. If I were to become a mom one day, the idea of being a full time stay at home mom sounds miserable, so that's not for me. Anyway, good luck with your hunt for a submissive wife.
Also, fuck off with your shaming of stay at home dads. Just let people live the way they want to live. Different family dynamics work for different people. This shouldn't be such a difficult or controversial concept to grasp, holy shit.
@@milenayashkina8641 you're the one shaming tombstone's life. I came to his defence you hypocrite. Why don't you take your own advice and let people live the way they want.
I don't know where you get this notion of equal distribution? Women take care of the household and children (even when working) while the men take care of all other problems. There's no equal work.
Going by the name Tombstone might be the edgiest thing I've ever heard in my entire life
Just admit you hate seeing a strong, confident white man THRIVING 🤣😂
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy thriving? He lived in a trailer park
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy thriving? boi if you don’t sit your dip chewing clownass down😂
I think the worst part is the dad encouraging his kid to be like him, hope they expand their minds.
That fist bump though, the kid is being encouraged to disrespect his mother. The real life adult examples of such upbringing are usually rotten humans.
Its his kid, let him teach what he thinks is important. Do you think Tombstone, the ultra tradionational male should go into other peoples' homes and worry about what they are teaching their children? If you arent passing your values onto your children then that means that you dont really buy into them yourself.
I mean, let's be honest, it's the mom's fault. You can clearly see she's rhe one enforcing this gender roles and making Thombstone be a doormat. So, he could either divorce her or accept the lifestyle. Of fourse he's to blame for just accepting it and doing nothing, but it's clear he can change and he's not the opressor who believes woman should be seen.not heard. She's the hypocrite one who says thag so she can pretend she has some value on the house, whem she doesn't even make meals from scratch and has tons of ramen noodles on the shelf, despite saying she's a traditional wife
@@vcamv2354 nah I feel like shes mega brain washed, either that or they're just perfect for each other, but that attitude should not be passed down to their kids
@@atomicx2157 brainwashed... By whom?
Also, if you see the full episode, Thombstone and the kid were willingnto be more active in the house and change their lifestyle. It's clear the mom wants to live in a traditional wife fantasy and she's the one in control even if she puts herself as "the opressed". But, again, Tombstone also is at fault for letting this happen but yeah, maybe they're a perfect fit for each other. We can only br sorry for the kid
i was raised the way KIDS should be seen not heard. now im a introvert mute who doesn’t see any reason to speak up
@@jj_lanae1307 now enjoy that best life!!
@@jj_lanae1307 😂😂😂😂😂I will be doing the same.
we out here suffering because of our parents ayyeee
Same
My parents forced me into every social situation possible as a kid. I don't leave the house now.
The difference between having a wife and having a partner right here. Sad that the one wife sees herself as lesser than her husband
You also shouldn’t aim for equal though. This is why the divorce rate is so high
Please at least watch. Maybe you understand it better and might want this for yourself
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@@gu3sswh075 no
It's so sad and frustrating when someone is "set in their ways" and doesn't allow growth. And on top of that looks down on others who are different.
The biker guy was acting like a bum in the beginning of the episode. He wants traditional roles but he don’t even do “manly” stuff like cutting the grass. He does make drastic changes in the end. But the lady needs help
He works doesn't he? Women don't know real work - on average. Daddy's girls and all that. Spend time in hard man's role and you'd understand, but you don't want those jobs, you want the ones with crayons, and lots of money for doing nothing, or glamor or etc.
@@SadisticStang Traditionally cutting grass is considered a mans job which is my point. Personally it doesnt matter who cuts the grass. Men are the mostly responsible for these gender roles. Women are limited to certain area and then men complain about caring a load "heavy". Today both parents work, clean and care for the children. This guys goes to work then comes home to act like another child thats needs to be taken care of. Im sure she brushes his teeth. They can live how they wanna live but this guy twisting the idea being traditional so he be bum. Women will work the "hard" jobs if given the opportunities. A lot Women today go to work and come home to more work cuz their male counter doesnt want help with the children. I would rather go out and work then say home cleaning,cooking and caring for two children one that 7 and the other 45.
Cutting the grass is once a week minimum. Cooking, cleaning, child care is 24/7. (Aka women’s work)That mans just lazy period. She’s basically a single parent but worse.
@@katmossa3503 Gender roles aside, there are certain physiological differences between men and women despite the latest PC culture craze. For example, I never see women in my line of work as a land surveyor because the work is absolutely brutal on the body especially when doing a heavy line cutting job. Hell, even most men struggle to last longer than a month and thus there is extremely high turnover rate. I am not sure but I think that is what this person was trying to say with a whole lot of exaggeration and sarcasm added in.
@@gwestcot He was suggesting that most women want get a lot of money for doing pretty nothing except for playing crayons,fashion etc. He completely overlooked the fact that its difficult for women to enter male dominated industries. He thinks just cuz biker guy "works" doesnt mean he's too good scratch his own elbow. Yes men are more likely to end up doing tougher jobs ( there are obvious reasons for that). U cant say "oh women's place is in the kitchen" then turn and complain that ur carry most the weight even its up for on which one is more actually more work.
Men and women are different but 90 percent of the time their capable of doing the same things given the opportunity.
Vegan or not, influencer or not - that’s a healthy family in every way.
Fact
She's gonna divorce him 95%
@@sergiugirati3390 ppl like you are the wordt and most insecure
I can tell she forced him and of course the kids are not given a choice either. I thought Aba would pick up on that but he didn't.
@@purpleseer5323 not insecure ar all nu guy alrry
“Whoever made them dirty” 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
True. As an adult, be responsible for your own tidiness. 👍🏽💯
My husband cooks for me sometimes especially after the gym and I cook for him as well. I do cook for the children mostly but he does when I need him to. We all clean and we all help one a other. It is crazy that people can not get passed the most basic living activities. We raise both genders so cook clean and provide for self.
Honestly, as a child living in a conservative household where my dad did none of the cleaning or cooking, I always thought my dad was just lazy. I still think that, my mom works the same hours as my dad, and has the same job as my dad, yet she is supposed to clean and cook for his ass? That's the main reason I hate traditional household, it's just men being lazy, and then the women doing all the work. Now, recently my mom has made my dad cook his own food and clean up his own stuff, she got tired of him being lazy as shit. Also, a lot of women will bring the traditional roles into the house themselves. I just don't like them and never will, me and my girlfriend both cook together, and we both clean up together. I seriously do not understand how cleaning and cooking makes you "Less of a man", hate the dumb shit.
I agree with you completely!! I don't agree with it either and my strengths aren't in cooking or cleaning. I hope I find a partner like the relationship you have where we BOTH do these things together. I hate these old traditional rules. Couples should do what works for them. Everyone's strengths/weaknesses/preferences are different.
Same shit here it honestly pissed me off growing up when my dad made me do shit to help out and I see his lazy ass not doing anything to help out. It didn’t help the fact that we already had a pretty distant relationship and I think is one of the main reasons that I grew to resent him as I grew older. Now my mom makes more money than him, spends more time at work than him and he still complains about the hours while as he watches TV while my mom slaves away at the dishes and housework.
@@victoryisforever769 That's how it is in my house hold anx exactly how I grew up, i remember that during fall I was the only one racking outside while he just sat inside. Shoveling too, and when i got older cutting the grass all the jobs he actually did got pushed to me once I turned 10. Dude was and still is lazy when it comes to chores.
I mean that isn't a traditional household in the truest sense. That would require the father being the sole breadwinner and the mother holding down the household duties. But ya if both have jobs then both should share responsibilities at home.
@@gwestcot I get that, but that's the modern "traditional" home. Most women are working now, and the men well, they just don't clean and cook haha. I have a lot of conservative female friends, and they complain constantly about their boyfriends not cooking or cleaning when they come over. So yeah, I agree it isn't actually traditional, but its the modern traditional house I feel.
Imagine waking up everyday to be seen but not heard. I feel bad for that lady.
She seems brainwashed, yeah? Like Stockholm syndrome or something.
If she's happy.... Why would you feel "bad" for her?? ALOT of women are "heard" today..... How happy are they??
@@olliwest7341 What in the literal fūck💀
Yeah poor Caucasian lady
@@olliwest7341 It's because she pushing her views to "Women" ....no b*tch that's not "Women" that you! Woman, singular.....if you want to say women find a woman that agreed with you and stand next to her. Then say "Us two women are.." 😑 don't try and claim your twisted views of that of all of all Women 🤮
There’s a difference between the idea of “gender roles” and roles in relationships/household. I think it’s important to have certain roles and responsibilities that make the household run smoothly, but to only think that a man/woman must hold a specific role is so close minded and arrogant to some extent.
It’s not close minded if it’s in the family.
Like, I don’t think he forced her to his beliefs. She agrees to them.
@@Nawa11YT definitely different if both parties agreed on that type of relationship, but to believe its supposed to be like that for every relationship is what I’m referring to.
@@thatguyneef343 That's understandable. But let us not forget that people from both side of that spectrum look down on each other. It's like a paradox of who's right .
@@Nawa11YT in my opinion, if ur a women and u like to do the dishes then do the dishes , if ur a man and u like to take care of ur family then do that , but sayin “ ALL women should be doing what I’m doing “ or if man says “ ALL man should be doing what I’m doing “ is weird . Like if ur traditional that’s ok
@@dejaxyz311 I look at it From a Traditional/ Religious point of view. I also Couldn't care about people outside of my Cultural Sphere (The Arab world) I don't mind People doing their own things when they are not a part of my people. However, I do contest Unnecessary changes to Family Structure within my community.
I wouldn’t think for a second that the “my wife asked me to go vegan”. Was a request. I think the boss said so.
" In my house we finna do this vegan thang, baby!"
Everyone's thought.
There are so many guys who eat vegan at home, because they were 'asked' to, but would have burgers and steaks with friends when the missis is not around. Can't stand women who force their men to go vegan, especially since most of them fail to do the vegan thing right.
@@anzelaiv you maybe missed the part about she said she is the boss. Which says alot. I bet my life she didnt ask him but cuz she said so. The guy has no backbone.
“The King has to clean his home. He can’t enjoy it.” Lmao look how she didn’t even make herself the queen. She’s the damn palace wench. When’s the last time we’ve seen a queen out of exile cleaning something?
I thought the same. She didn't place herself as the queen, just his "biker bitch"
Agree!
Aba, major respect for you around 7:18. My dad would belittle my mom growing up because "He was the man and it was his money and should be able to do whatever he wanted with it". He called her and his kids slaves. I have heard him verbally abuse her including calling her stupid and less attractive than what she used to be. He once made her cry while we were on our way to see her dad's grave site and kept her from seeing her grandma in her dying days. My idea of what marriage looks like is warped today because of it.
I imagine this is only but a miniscule consolation to you, but at least you recognise your dad's behaviour as warped. It hasn't fucked you up to the point where you rationalise that shit.
Yeah the fact that you see it as a problem is a step in right direction. Someone else in your situation might just give up and decide that its their destiny to suffer because their mum or dad did. God bless you.
she was roasting him from the second she got to porch
My parents were partners, no one was submissive to the other, there was 6 kids we all helped with chores. My father worked nights so he was there to raise us mostly. Later in thier marriage he became the breadwinner and my mother handled the family finances, not because she was trying to dominate, frankly she was just better at it. That's how my husband and I operate were partners and we talk about what needs to be done and who's the best choice for the job. My husband's family was the opposite his dad tried to dominate the family instead of everyone working together. He wouldn't allow his mother to work. Even though he was not a good provider due to his drug use. She ended up losing thier home and had to live with family. On which my husband recalls as the most miserable time in his life. He has issues to this day he has not worked out from his toxic upbringing. My point is your pride can also be your downfall.
Live and let live. There's no wrong way to have a relationship, as long as its not abusive. Do whatever works for you and your partner
In theory i agree, but abuse can be hard to see
your quote lead me to your page and your music. I love it !
@ViktorMandus Rhaefnhyrst Codependents and Narcissist for the most part. It's what happens in a world full of single parents and kids having kids. Never taught how to deal with emotions in a healthy way.
I agree with you for the most part. The real issue is with the son. What he's bring taught is not healthy.
@ViktorMandus Rhaefnhyrst Why is relativism not ok if there is no abuse? Your idea of "modern" society that's being "decayed" is your own. I dont agree with either of these couples and I personally couldnt date either of these women, but they both seem to be 50% of successful and happy relationships with a partner who compliments and values their ideals and core principles. Is happiness not the goal of a relationship? If that is achieved then why is your subjective idea of what you "think" it should be more relevant than their level of fulfillment and happiness in their lives? ... Hint .... its not
I don’t want a slave I want a partner.
I kinda want a woman to know her role
@@macdazzy5776 Which role would that be?
@@user-xi6xi6di7n there is a role.......there's husband and wife 2 roles
@@darksu6947 for my woman to be a woman and not try and be a Man like most females now days trying so hard to be masculine
@@macdazzy5776 I see, there's nothing wrong with that.
This topic concerns me a lot. Being a young man and going to have children in the future I have to be mindful of what type of father, spouse I'm going to be. I wanna be my best
Learning as you go, although somewhat true is horrible advice, imo. I suggest you have yourself together first, your money right, and the "right" kind of potential mother in your life. These 3 things are big, and can keep your kid off the streets and out of prison. As Dad, it isn't always about being the good guy. Be compassionate, but stern. Be the embodiment of tough love, the love that you future kids need, necessarily want. Everything will fall into place.
@@kgyeatman3569 you can have everything planned out to perfection and you will still come to a place you could never be prepared for. Parenting and Love is all about learning as you go. No book or advice can prepare you for any of what they potentially come with.
@@brittanyalonge I think planning is how you build up ways to handle what comes at you. Of course nothing will go exactly as planned but it gives you a baseline for how you want to handle the unplanned. For me specifically, books and advice help me remember the type of parent I strive to be so I don't act purely on emotion such as fear or anger. That's just how I learn and grow with my family though. Everyone does it different. Saying one way is better than the other doesn't allow for people to discover what works for them.
@@brittanyalonge I'm just given an approach as a father. There is a duality to a Father/Mother parenting that needs to be considered. There is a time for nurturing, and then there is a time to crack the whip, especially with our young black men. It's best to not learn this when your child is in his/her mid teens.
hey, first and foremost you be respectful and your partner should do the same, no gender role in that, that is a human being consistent. second off, yeah, learn as you go. your view might change or not, but as long as you two talk out how you want to live together and okay with the conclusion and continue to work it out, you and your spouse and children will have a happy life together. but remember, just like the tango, it takes two, so both of you should work it out.
I watched this episode. Tombstone actually in the end liked the change and the food. Even he was working out too. He really opened up and seemed happier.
When I see that woman saying she should do everything and then I see him I think abuse.
Same here. Immediately made 'Stockholm Syndrome' pop into my head. I hope the best for her though.
Yep, same thought, immediately. Possibly not him abusing her, but someone at some point forced her into this mentality. A healthy person would still do all she does and not belittle themselves in the process.
100% getting those vibes.
@xraf32 under the bridge, trolling?
@@anzelaiv lol nawww it ain’t him it herrr. Watch the full video of the wide swap episode
You can't be vagan and poor at the same time. Pick a struggle.
There poor because they are vegan
Vagan
Vegetable and Fruits tends to be expensive depending on the Situation of the Economy.
you can though lol....meat and animal products are a luxury item for some, hence why people in some third world countries often depend on a plant-based diet.
😱 screaming laughing 😂
“We are not calling a white person Nick Cannon”- when you nail that landing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wait, what's that about? Lol
@@lmntxo2678 i'm wondering the same
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He was about to say the N word and he said that instead instead. It was a distraction from what was about to be said
Real talk tho the way the husband was taking care of the kids and sat with them on the couch MELTED MY HEART. Such a cute family asçdjfiasdpaoj
Not related to the video but on another video, don't remember which one, Preach mentioned that having an I love you from your mum doesn't mean as much from your dad. I didn't agree when I first heard it but I decided to try out the same principal with the kids I tutor. I stopped saying well done all the time and only saying it when they did something particularly special. Then at the end I asked what they preferred. The girls said they missed the well done as they felt they had done something wrong for me to not say it. The boys, however, said they appreciated it more as they knew what they'd *actually* done well. Thanks for your insightful commentary, it's actually really beneficial for us young women😊
That's a productive experiment
I salute you for sharing
Having an I love you from your mum doesnt mean as much from your dad? I don't understand that part?
@@paulsam6537 same like????
@@paulsam6537 if you don't get it that's tuff
@@vibekiller21yeet13 maybe you should try explain. If you dont have anything to say, dont say anything. You pretty much said nothing.
She’s a senior pick me and you can tell it by how she’s committed to telling everyone her traditional ways are the only way to do it, not just their own path.
Guarantee tombstone gets intimate alot with his wife. Where as the other couple with the pushover husband wants to but she is tired or only sees sex as a power thing to hold over him.
My husband is a stay at home dad and he’s still the king of the castle- I love taking care of my family and he loves taking care of us- that’s called a family. Period. Cleaning is a group activity bc kids are messy af. It’s called SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO CARE FOR A FAMILY!
That's awesome your marriage sounds healthy
Same. With Covid my brother's job was slow. So his wife works and he stays home. She said that she would like to keep this even after Covid. Because she doesn't want the baby to go to a daycare. She rather have the baby be with her father. My cousin has a similar situation. But her husband is hurt and can't work. So he stays home and takes care of their 3 kids. It works for them. And they're a team.
I've known stay at home dads, they ended up being caught doing sketchy stuff and having their own secret bank accounts and wasting all the money away.
Unless the guy got rich off of something when he was young and able to retire early.
It is just not healthy for men to be stay home anything. It is not good for mental health, they either get lazy or have something else going on. It is also why men when they retire, if they don't fill their time traveling or doing hobbies and keeping busy outside of the house. Many times they'll rapidly decline in health and mental health.
@@thecensoredmuscle563 thsts people in general, it's not good for anyone to live without a purpose
@@ddavis4730 it is men in general, hence why when men retire and do what his wife always has done, the man's mental health goes down. It is not about personal purpose, most men just work to provide for their family, their wife usually does the decorating and buying for most of the house.
Another example is 2020, and the massive amount of men falling to depression, suicide, drugs, alcohol etc during their months of not being home.
If Undertaker isn’t the first thing that comes to mind when you heard tombstone then you miss a couple of episodes every Friday night growing up…
I want to see Tombstone square up with the “stay at home dad”. Everyone wants to talk about masculinity etc, but if you can’t out fight the “stay at home dad” you can’t speak on what’s mainly or not you just another guy running his mouth lol.
Yeah I thinks tombstone got it, that man had no will or fight in him you heard him say he went vegan since February because his wife asked him lol
@@TrueRattlehead bro Tombstone is literally dying from his diet, stop it lol.
@@troyreactsmuzic Everyone is dying from their diet if you wanna be serious.. Veganism is just as bad for you as not being one..
How can you equate his diet to not being able to beat a stay at home dad.... just stop it.
My dad was more of a caretaker and now my husband happily helps me with chores. It’s not about me being the woman. It’s about being partners.
Same. My father taught my mom how to take care of kids. Both my parents are very nurturing.
A woman's or a man's place is where their strengths lie best, imo. If you are a stay at home dad, cool. If you are a working mom, cool. Prefer a traditional role? Also perfectly cool. So long as it is fulfilling to you and it builds a foundation of strength with your partner, that is what matters.
the only memories I have with my mom is her beating me lmao, but the memories I have with my dad - cooking together, going on walks and shopping together, watching movies together
and he was working 12h night shifts - every day in and out he used to go to sleep at 6.30 and wake up at 7.30 to walk me to school right after work - I don't know how he did what he did but he was amazing
@@cyliafrost your dad was a super hero
“keep it a buck i wasnt listening to none of that shit” me either 😭😭 i spaced out so hard
I was very fascinated with what he was saying!
Whatever works in someone’s relationship if being traditional is what works then it works if splitting everything 50/50 works then it works whatever feels right for the people in said relationship
Shut your damn mouth
@@glenseagles bruh she is kinda r8 you know
@@ma_na_gurab I know I'm trolling
@@ma_na_gurab bruv you do realise I'm a guy right just look at my name highly doubt there is a female named Anthony unless it's a last name lady in the pic ain't me
Man ain’t Tombstone a Spider-Man villain? 😂
Yep
Nah it’s Undertaker’s finisher.
It’s a pizza brand
It's a cowboy movie with Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer
Yep
This short version of that episode makes tombstone look bad but in the end review scene it was really sweet how he spoke with his wife about how he wants to feel comfortable in his home and help. It was her that prevented him from doing so.
I agree with Preach how ever a couple decide to govern their relationship, household and family as long as it is healthy go for it. It took my husband and I 14 years to figure out "tradition" did not work for us. Once we agreed on how we wanted things so much weight was lifted, it is not set in stone either.