I have TVS Ntorq and suzuki Avenis both.. Ntorq gives around 38 kms per liter.. but the New avenus gives 52 kms per liter in city ride.. this is best bike for mileage..
If Suzuki engineers put a bigger rear wheel, No doubt Suzuki will take the lead in sales in the whole 125 cc scooter segment ! But its rivals know that Suzuki engineers will justify saying engine position etc etc and won't ever think about bigger tyres ..ha ha... How pathetic !!! Indian bike riders know the edge they get with bigger tyres when riding along all speed breakers on the road. Suzuki India wouldn't listen.
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs???
@@MrArunCochin 100% true, and not only that - the huge gap between rear wheel and body sticks out like a sore thumb.. so disproportionate!!! Just like the weird Burger-man street 😂😂😂
That rear tyre will make a huge difference when riding with a pillion and cornering. My brother owns a burgman and while leaning into a corner the rear does wiggle a bit and didn't inspire confidence to go faster at any corner.
you're right. I can ride with a pillion and still have confidence, and overtake single riders on highways. I am very happy with the Ntorq, the only problem if any is the mileage on slopes. And while it isn't a huge one, me being a student and all, makes it noticeable.
@@rehanmohammed794 nah ntorq power and torque is more than burgman.. Practically it's not possible to beat ntorq... U might have raced with noob guy on ntorq bro....
bro no matter how much u compare . i have test ridden Aprilia Strom but nobody matches the price to features like ntorq ... performance is well evident enough
If Suzuki engineers put a bigger rear wheel, No doubt Suzuki will take the lead in sales in the whole 125 cc scooter segment ! But its rivals know that Suzuki engineers will justify saying engine position etc etc and won't ever think about bigger tyres ..ha ha... How pathetic !!! Indian bike riders know the edge they get with bigger tyres when riding along all speed breakers on the road. They only gain if they listen to the youth..
If Suzuki engineers put a bigger rear wheel, No doubt Suzuki will take the lead in sales in the whole 125 cc scooter segment ! But its rivals know that Suzuki engineers will justify saying engine position etc etc and won't ever think about bigger tyres ..ha ha... How pathetic !!! Indian bike riders know the edge they get with bigger tyres when riding along all speed breakers on the road. Suzuki India wouldn't listen.
Bought my Ntorq (base model drum brakes) in September 21. Love that thing to pieces, still haul everything like groceries and vegetables with ease, there's enough space. And when I want to go on a ride it always puts a smile on my face. My only gripe is the mileage .
@@swarnamverma7808 but avenis do both... Maybe power n handling little bit lower than ntorq but still enough power n decent handling n also good mileage
Seriously !!!! Me with almost 1 lakh others would agree that even the BS6 Ntorqs never return such Fuel Efficiency, Max would be 35-40 . The Avenis Using the Access Engine would return 56kmpl with ease on any condition
That is the only issue, but hey, performance comes at a cost. And I cannot certify that because I ride with pillion on hills, and that will reduce numbers by a bit.
This is a biased review for TVS fan boys , who cares . Only thing which is correct is performance and storage. Especially when it comes to millege everyone knows the truth
Even though Suzuki took huge amount of 'inspiration' from NTorq, but they cudnt get away from the awkward wheelbase issue, both Burgman street and now Avenis seems like a small scooty with oversized skin
The puny rear wheel combined with short wheelbase leave a huge gap between rear wheel & body, thus spoiling the whole look of Burger-man & Avenis. Wonder which idiot approves these weird designs at Suzuki.
That rear tire on the Avenis just ruins the whole look of the bike. The NTorq looks over-stickered. Thank God I bought the earlier versions in white/grey, which still looks so much better than this.
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs??? 😂😂
@@AllRounder-hv9wg You also forgot Yamaha Aerox 155, with 14" wheels.. unfortunately, it's available only in major Indian cities not smaller towns.. so I had to buy Ntorq Race Edition last month which I am very happy with.
That small rear tyre and the main stand looks nearly touching the ground of Suzuki avenis makes a great change and I myself will definitely move onto my favourite ntorq..❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️muahh
True, bought an NTorq last week and loving it ❤❤❤ Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs???
I saw some people who said they managed those numbers on highways, with timely services. So who knows! I personally reach 35 or something on the hills. And as far as i remember, TVS claimed 47kmpl on Ntorq, not 50s
Hav been using Ntorq race 125 for past 2 years. What a wonderful scooter it is. I commute 85km daily with most of it in highways and 20km on bumpy as hell village roads. Never disappointed with the scooter. Overtakes are a piece of cake on this one and it does 85 easily. The suspension is a bit on harder side...other than that....it's superb. Ofcourse the sound is unmistakably identifiable.
Ntorq is very coslier to maintain, worst mileage, After 20000km Clutch housing sound noticiable. Loose timing chain, piston rings are also not reliable as it smokes very early. There are Many problem on ntorq. Spare parts also very costly on TVS. But Suzuki is much reliable, spare parts are cheaper than TVS. Maintainence is cheap on Suzuki.
Bro I'm also using ntorq race xp and i drive a moderately... I get 40kmpl... So it's purely based on your driving style... Try filling petrol only in shell and it improves mileage significantly...
TVS NTORQ never gives a mileage of 54.33 kmpl in city and 55.8 kmpl on highway! It will be 10 kmpl less. Come on. Suzuki's mileage figure of 52-56 is real because of that proven access engine. But NTORQ never gives this much of efficiency.
everyone making wrong assumptions by thinking suzuki copied this from ntorq.. but in reality suzuki copied the sharp cuts and edges from its new gsxr1000 ..in which body pannels has same cutout.. but still ntorq looks better..
That's because of weight and thinner rear tyre power to weight ratio becomes roughly same just like hero glamour xtech and sp 125 weight is 3-4kgs difference with narrow tyre in sp gets it par with or above glamour
Another major concern which isn’t covered in comparison videos is after sales service and cost. While my previous experience with Suzuki has been bad (Access) because in my city the dealership kept on changing and spare parts are too costly. Moreover odd position of certain parts makes it quite a task to replace them. On the other hand TVS has reliable dealership and parts are easily available and don’t burn a hole in your pocket. The rear tyre of the Avnis is a sore spot same thing which bugs the Bergman too.
Correct the thing suzuki's after sales service is poor in many districts in my district it has been changed 4-5 times from beginning don't get who is the dealer after 1-2 year even buying sf 250 is hiccup as dealership changes a lot tvs also has done these things in past but from 4-5 years it's quite stable in coming year I will be going for honda activa 125 because of good dealership experience over suzuki Swiss though I am honda fan have 2 honda motorcycles and one hero scooter but in recent times I am witnessing good praise of Swiss over activa here in capital of India but because of dealership experience in my home district I will go for activa for my father and brother use
Look at that tiny little back tyre. And then how can you think about comparing this with the iconic Ntorq. Ntorq stands as the master of all scooters. I don't know why all of the compnies using littile tyre on back. But TVS is the only brand ignore those stupid move. They never use those on any of there scooters. Handsoff 👏
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the idiotic bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs??? 😂😂😂 PS: Bought a brand new NTorq RE last week & loving it ❤❤❤
Bro what do you know about lifestyle scooter with sporty looks. Now suzuki's acceleration with OUTSHINED Tvs' atleast upto 70kmph, which is more than sufficient for daily commute.
Don't get all that whining here about the rear wheel of the Suzuki. Just wear the tyre out and put on a slightly wider and fatter one and this "problem" will be fixed once and for all. And concerning the wobbly feeling of the back, it really helps to keep the tyre properly inflated....see lots of scooters riding around with way too low air pressure in the rear tyre....
The Avenis is a motoscooter. It has to look like one. There are some similarities in all the motoscooters be it the Honda Dio, Yamaha Ray Z, ZR (113 cc), Ntorq and now the Avenis too. Who's investigating the case of who copied whom?
The base design of all these scooter is copied from each other but atleast they have something in there design to call their own unlike the avenis that looks like a chinese copy of 125 scooters
@@memerspuberty6995majority of Honda's and Suzuki's scooter's have 10inch rear tyre. It's used to increase millege and performance. Ntorq's design is truly inspired from aprillias design every one is copying others , The biggest among them was the 1st generation TVS APPACHE, it's design is copied from Bajaj pulsar 150 . Everyone is copying others. Bajaj's 220, ns models are also copied from foreign bikes ( Honda CB 600f). Functionality is what matters. Not the tyre size . Reduced tyre has its own advantages and disadvantages like increased tyre size
My ntorq black panther bought just a month ago giving 40+ mileage Fully satisfied Jus a little bit vibration on foot board above 60 km/h That 3 valve heart make me undstoppable love my bae.❤️
I know a bunch of Ntorq owners including owners of race XP and no one claimed above 40kmpl.. How did you get that much!!!!! Suzuki being Suzuki we can expect that kind of mileage and more I guess.
Is it so tough for Suzuki to put a 12inch back tyre?? 10inch just looks out of place...oh then I remember they also have burgman and intruder with similar kind of pathetic back ends!! 🌹
Scooter's engine are mostly placed in the backside of the scooter... So if you go uphill it the weight goes on the back, To solve this suzuki place a smaller tyre size an the back, and larger tyres on the front to give more weight in the frontside... This tyre placement doesn't effect the performance...
@@FelaKhawlhring224 so ntorq engine is in front just like bikes what a lame excuse suzuki did it purposely to extract more mileage as ntorq is a fuel hungry scooter
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the idiotic bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs??? 😂😂😂
@@mrinmaysardar8360 lol who hurt u. If it makes better mileage then thats the purpose. Ntorq is very short in length too, can't even sit two people properly
@@user-xu7zg4gq5h I'm hurt 😂 smoking weed or what can't read the aforementioned comments or what even avenis isn't comfortable either 😂 it just wanted to compete ntorq with the tried and tested access engine and for mileage there is already present the tried and tested access
@@berlins5242 So now he can't even put his opinion? Doesn't matter if its Japanese, peeps like you allow big brands to treat the customers with below par products.
The Ntorq has to win every competition, no matter what. It wins against the Avenis, Burgman, Ather and even the Aerox! Wow! When it loses on practicality, talk about performance and when it loses on performance, talk about practicality. Just keep the Ntorq at the top somehow!
@@gauravthakur7699 We don't want only power... We want refinement mileage and reliability that tvs doesn't offers in ntorq.... And shitty build quality of plastics...
Its been 7 months with my race xp i am saying that whenever i ride this scooter outside every body asks me which company is it or is this scooter electric and when they listen the exhaust note it's a another thing ride quality is great i run this scooter at rainy roads and didn't even slide a little bit best scooter out there
Ntorq is far pepier and quick, than Avenis. Still rear tyre of Avenis sucks. Suzuki must work on tyre sizes. Power is also not sportier and punchey in Avenis. Ntorq is clear winner.
Avenis give 64 kmpl mileage bcoz it has the same engine of access 125 where i think access engine on avenus is little tuned but it gives mileage almost same as acces 125
@zigwheels Why do you say that the Suzuki is more sophisticated? I couldn't figure out anything new. Its just a copy cat design, with a smaller wheel at the rear.
Really ?? That's a lame statement, both looks and feels different, and Jupiter came with external fuel filling in their 1st generation where as it took 2 gen for activa to get it done
@@mr.banker1211 it's like saying huawei flip phone is a copy of samsung flip ,both went for a flip phone and you can't change much in it that thing should flip to open ,both activa and Jupiter serves the same purpose big family scooter with great milage , both looks diffent ,feels different but tvs improves the vehicle per generation unlike activa who does nothing
Suzuki: TVS can we take inspiration from your design. TVS : Go ahead. But don't make it too obvious. Suzuki: Just changes the graphics and logo. Kya hi pata chalega kisi ko.
@4:16 Having Avenis Mat Black Getting 59-63 kmpl ( Speed limited to 35 -50 kmph only with gradual acceleration ) received , Insane mileage when i test it in same way (Same Speed ) in highway , 75 kmpl 🔥 🔥 (but we will be moving like tortoise wrt surrounding vehicles 😂😂😂 )
@@shravanshetty10 : Ride quality : Since its sporty type , suspension is in harder side (stiffer). If you expect comfort like access 5, activa , etc. You will get disappointed . Obviously back tyre reduce your confidence in cornering due to smaller size (if you ride in that way) For ordinary riders won't be any issues at all. I hope we can go for little wider tyre but i didn't tried yet. But only Stock configuration always works well for the overall performance , mileage, etc.
How's the after sale service and after almost an years what the update on your experience and will you still back your claim or have you changed your mind ? I wanna get a 125 cc and I'm really confused
I am so confused between the two.. Don't like the small wheel of avenis. Like ntorq but worried about its long term reliability. Heard it has build quality issues. Start to rattle after couple of years. Water seeps in through petrol valve.. Mind bole avenis due to reliability but dil bole ntorq. Help please
Everybody bhaging behind of ntorq/ Activa 😆 Activa has good milage even ntorq has very low milage Avenis has also good milage 👍 Jisko jo gaddi Leni h Lelo faaltu ki bakchodi na Kato 😆
TF Suzuki Atleast give a 12 inch rear tyre but I think Suzuki tested it before putting that tyre in the rear but yes Access 125 is better in Comfort and still pulls hardly like the Ntorq only Burgman and SR 125 can beat the Ntorq in Top end.
Suzuki just copies design from market leaders. They copied pulsar and made gs150r, then copied fz and made Gixxer, and now copied N torque and made Avnis.
@@Awwwwd I am not talking about performance, because usually Suzuki does a good job with that. I am talking about looks, which always seems to be copied from existing product rather than doing something original.
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I have TVS Ntorq and suzuki Avenis both.. Ntorq gives around 38 kms per liter.. but the New avenus gives 52 kms per liter in city ride.. this is best bike for mileage..
why ntorq drink more gas they same 125cc
@@___Anakin.Skywalker Ntorq is 10 kgs heavier than Avenis and he was probably riding with sport mode engaged mostly
Which one you suggest to buy broo
My avanis gives 45 kmpl on city and 55 in highway even with a pillion
Avenis is like bodybuilder who forgot leg day.
Totally agree with you bro.. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If Suzuki engineers put a bigger rear wheel, No doubt Suzuki will take the lead in sales in the whole 125 cc scooter segment ! But its rivals know that Suzuki engineers will justify saying engine position etc etc and won't ever think about bigger tyres ..ha ha... How pathetic !!! Indian bike riders know the edge they get with bigger tyres when riding along all speed breakers on the road. Suzuki India wouldn't listen.
100%
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs???
@@MrArunCochin 100% true, and not only that - the huge gap between rear wheel and body sticks out like a sore thumb.. so disproportionate!!! Just like the weird Burger-man street 😂😂😂
0:37 this animation 😍🔥
That rear tyre will make a huge difference when riding with a pillion and cornering. My brother owns a burgman and while leaning into a corner the rear does wiggle a bit and didn't inspire confidence to go faster at any corner.
We can add a 110 section rear tire it will be better than the stock thin tires but yeah a 12 inch whee would have been better
you're right. I can ride with a pillion and still have confidence, and overtake single riders on highways. I am very happy with the Ntorq, the only problem if any is the mileage on slopes. And while it isn't a huge one, me being a student and all, makes it noticeable.
Bro I also own burgman ita faster then ntroq and nice cornering stability
@@rehanmohammed794 nah ntorq power and torque is more than burgman.. Practically it's not possible to beat ntorq... U might have raced with noob guy on ntorq bro....
Agree
India wants: GSX R150, GSX S150
Suzuki: Copied design scooty with 10" rear wheel😀
bro no matter how much u compare . i have test ridden Aprilia Strom but nobody matches the price to features like ntorq ... performance is well evident enough
Exactly
Suzuki fanboys coming to defend their Avenis
If Suzuki engineers put a bigger rear wheel, No doubt Suzuki will take the lead in sales in the whole 125 cc scooter segment ! But its rivals know that Suzuki engineers will justify saying engine position etc etc and won't ever think about bigger tyres ..ha ha... How pathetic !!! Indian bike riders know the edge they get with bigger tyres when riding along all speed breakers on the road. They only gain if they listen to the youth..
Ntorq is a duplicate version of Aprillia sr
18000km and 4 years with the Ntorq bs4 and I still love it.
And love keeps on growing 💗
20 months with 26000 kms😎
Ntorq has superb handling, that not many bikes can offer. I love riding ntorq.
Which all bikes?
@@pikachu98765 the shitty sp125 and all those 90 section real wheel 110 125cc bikes
@@pikachu98765 low end bikes
@@pikachu98765Platina, Star City, CD 100 etc etc. 😂
That rear tyre alone is enough for not buying the Avenis.... Who in their right mind would design something like this? Shi man
Suzuki Intruder 150, Suzuki Burgman... and now Suzuki Avenis
Fuel efficiency 🌝
Jupiter 125 cc has excellent features
Wheel size is not a concern. Smaller wheels provide better ride quality. Choice should be based upon performance.
If Suzuki engineers put a bigger rear wheel, No doubt Suzuki will take the lead in sales in the whole 125 cc scooter segment ! But its rivals know that Suzuki engineers will justify saying engine position etc etc and won't ever think about bigger tyres ..ha ha... How pathetic !!! Indian bike riders know the edge they get with bigger tyres when riding along all speed breakers on the road. Suzuki India wouldn't listen.
Bought my Ntorq (base model drum brakes) in September 21. Love that thing to pieces, still haul everything like groceries and vegetables with ease, there's enough space.
And when I want to go on a ride it always puts a smile on my face. My only gripe is the mileage .
What is the mileage u get brother
@@rakeshkanna485 With the way I ride , always in city, I've gotten between 33-37 kmpl. Mostly 37 sometimes a little low.
@@swarnamverma7808 big deal breaker for me.
@@HariKrishnan-pe3ft If you want mileage you can go for Jupiter, Access 125 etc.
But the performance of Ntorq makes the mileage a bit justifiable .
@@swarnamverma7808 but avenis do both... Maybe power n handling little bit lower than ntorq but still enough power n decent handling n also good mileage
Suzuki while making Avenis - Lets take a dio, grazia and ntorq and here you go - All new avenis with an Access engine
Seriously !!!! Me with almost 1 lakh others would agree that even the BS6 Ntorqs never return such Fuel Efficiency, Max would be 35-40 .
The Avenis Using the Access Engine would return 56kmpl with ease on any condition
It's only in zigwheel test where KTM Duke 250 return 40 plus mileage 😃😃😃 why not TVs Ntorq
Yes mujhe avenis me 55 mil jata hai asaani se
That is the only issue, but hey, performance comes at a cost. And I cannot certify that because I ride with pillion on hills, and that will reduce numbers by a bit.
@@rajansinhajt geared bikes are always greater in terms of mileage and cvt transmission sucks for mileage especially coupled with a powerful motor
This is a biased review for TVS fan boys , who cares . Only thing which is correct is performance and storage. Especially when it comes to millege everyone knows the truth
Even though Suzuki took huge amount of 'inspiration' from NTorq, but they cudnt get away from the awkward wheelbase issue, both Burgman street and now Avenis seems like a small scooty with oversized skin
The puny rear wheel combined with short wheelbase leave a huge gap between rear wheel & body, thus spoiling the whole look of Burger-man & Avenis. Wonder which idiot approves these weird designs at Suzuki.
Ntorq copy Aprillia. It ain't original either lol
Ntorq is worst mileage. Maximum 40kmpl. Never expect 50+ in ntorq and Jupiter 125. Even Activa doing worst in mileage.
Hear me out ,ntorq is a more leaned to sporty
Bhai tu chala bewakoofo jaise ra hai phir
I get about 35kmpl when I'm aggressive in the city. About 45 when I'm easy on the throttle and not exceeding 60kmph in Mumbai
@@arvindkesaribaal6277 bhai ye impatient hona. Full acceleration, sudden braking and all. Agree?
@@gauravthakur7699 yosss
That rear tire on the Avenis just ruins the whole look of the bike. The NTorq looks over-stickered. Thank God I bought the earlier versions in white/grey, which still looks so much better than this.
There’s always the super squad editions which we can always remove the stickers to give that clean look 👀
Mine's also the plain gray color! Also how much mileage do you get ?
@@swarnamverma7808 44 in Manipal, which is a fairly empty town, how about you?
@@agastyeet8362 Small but but pretty hight traffic, 38
@@agastyeet8362 Bruh how do you ride, I've never gotten anywhere above 38 and you're getting 44. Teach me how I can get more mileage.
That puny rear tyre on the Suzuki is a legit deal breaker !
Which Scotty has a well balanced good tyre ?
@@abhirai6124 obviously ntorq , jupiter , jupiter 125 & if you are millionaire so aprilla are also good
@@AllRounder-hv9wg millionaire🤣 but true, the aprilia is a rich guy's scooter
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs??? 😂😂
@@AllRounder-hv9wg You also forgot Yamaha Aerox 155, with 14" wheels.. unfortunately, it's available only in major Indian cities not smaller towns.. so I had to buy Ntorq Race Edition last month which I am very happy with.
That small rear tyre and the main stand looks nearly touching the ground of Suzuki avenis makes a great change and I myself will definitely move onto my favourite ntorq..❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️muahh
True, bought an NTorq last week and loving it ❤❤❤
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs???
N torq give maximum 40kmpl , where did you got this figure 54-56 ???? have you ridden at 10-20kmph???
Ntorq gives 35-40 kmpl only🤣
I saw some people who said they managed those numbers on highways, with timely services. So who knows! I personally reach 35 or something on the hills. And as far as i remember, TVS claimed 47kmpl on Ntorq, not 50s
@@gauravthakur7699 47 is like God in heaven... in city not more than 35-40kmpl
@@wheelsoffire658
Yess and in highway it would something around 40-45... If u cruise in 50 60...in street mode not in race mode...
@@sharonrajiv7586
This channel is highly biased with ntorq...🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I am a ntorq owner since 2019... And it's a best scooter
Hav been using Ntorq race 125 for past 2 years. What a wonderful scooter it is. I commute 85km daily with most of it in highways and 20km on bumpy as hell village roads. Never disappointed with the scooter. Overtakes are a piece of cake on this one and it does 85 easily. The suspension is a bit on harder side...other than that....it's superb. Ofcourse the sound is unmistakably identifiable.
What mileage are you getting from ntorq?
@@tausifkhan6736 i own a bs6 one I'm getting 43+in cities 49+on highways
@@varunreddy5885 thanks for the reply buddy, thats an impressive mileage you are getting.
@@tausifkhan6736 it never disappointed me on mileage though I ride it very harsh on highways
@@varunreddy5885 i am confused between burgman and ntorq. Mileage is also a concern for me. Ntorq really looks amazing.
whenever do the vehicle review kindly include night drive easyness with Headlight thorw and other night driving Symptoms.
I have Suzuki avenis is very good more comfortable mileage is very nice now 60kl very nice speed is good everything is right very nice vachale
Is it suitable for family?
@@ulaganasokan2447 yes
Bhai abhi kaisa chal rha hai?
If the wheel was bigger on Avenis it would be a good deal.
I own an ntorq since 2018 and i can safely say it's the only scooty that makes me forget even the ola s1 pro except for the mileage (32-35kmpl💀💀💀💀)
Suzuki needs something more, something original to regain its brand value in India.
Ntorq is very coslier to maintain, worst mileage,
After 20000km Clutch housing sound noticiable. Loose timing chain, piston rings are also not reliable as it smokes very early.
There are Many problem on ntorq.
Spare parts also very costly on TVS.
But Suzuki is much reliable, spare parts are cheaper than TVS. Maintainence is cheap on Suzuki.
I have n torq 2021 model race edition 🔥🔥🔥main attraction ntorq rear tyre and exhust 👌🏼👍
Sir i am using ntorq racexp edition and its giving a milege of not more than 26 km/L
Bro I'm also using ntorq race xp and i drive a moderately... I get 40kmpl... So it's purely based on your driving style... Try filling petrol only in shell and it improves mileage significantly...
Me also getting 37 per litre
Milage increases after 2 service
@@bikashpurkait9506 yeah exactly today's my first service. Im getting 25kmpl now . Let's see after servicing
Before first service it gives less milage but after first service it will give 35+ and after second service it will go to 45 kmpl
TVS NTORQ never gives a mileage of 54.33 kmpl in city and 55.8 kmpl on highway! It will be 10 kmpl less. Come on. Suzuki's mileage figure of 52-56 is real because of that proven access engine. But NTORQ never gives this much of efficiency.
I owned 2019 model ntorq and its give 50+ mileage in city to me
Suzuki is tyre phobic, if i want refinement i will go for Honda, TVs for performance. So why Suzuki?
If you need both, go for yamaha
@@Akshay-xs1wf which yamaha scooter has both ?
@@mr.banker1211 ray zr
@@Akshay-xs1wf It is underpowered aur usme kuchh extra features bhi nahi hai.
@@mr.banker1211 we talked about performance and refined. Drag race it with ntorq then you can see who is the winner.
Ntorq needs a weight cut and less vibration and it will be the undisputed sporty 125 champion for years to come
The weight is what allows better stability at high speed
I'm also using 2018 model Ntorq... My Ntorq is gives to 52 kmpl 💥💥💥💥
Lol 🤣 29 max 35
@@neo3823 bro eanakku Ntorq 52 kudukuthu bro
@@surags2304 Seriously bro Ivide max 45 kitty Highway ente Broyude vandi aanu
No Way i am also using since 5 years. its only gives 32 to 35 Kmpl
@@hussainmohamed1210 iyya na kedaikaratha soldren. Na Ena pandrathu
Ntorq is an emotion❤️ Proud owner of one😍
I own an Jan 2018 ntorq red matte
Mileage??
everyone making wrong assumptions by thinking suzuki copied this from ntorq.. but in reality suzuki copied the sharp cuts and edges from its new gsxr1000 ..in which body pannels has same cutout.. but still ntorq looks better..
Single mode , less power and torque on paper almost matches the acceleration time of tvs says about Japanese engines. Suzuki avenis ❤
That's because of weight and thinner rear tyre power to weight ratio becomes roughly same just like hero glamour xtech and sp 125 weight is 3-4kgs difference with narrow tyre in sp gets it par with or above glamour
Another major concern which isn’t covered in comparison videos is after sales service and cost. While my previous experience with Suzuki has been bad (Access) because in my city the dealership kept on changing and spare parts are too costly. Moreover odd position of certain parts makes it quite a task to replace them. On the other hand TVS has reliable dealership and parts are easily available and don’t burn a hole in your pocket.
The rear tyre of the Avnis is a sore spot same thing which bugs the Bergman too.
Correct the thing suzuki's after sales service is poor in many districts in my district it has been changed 4-5 times from beginning don't get who is the dealer after 1-2 year even buying sf 250 is hiccup as dealership changes a lot tvs also has done these things in past but from 4-5 years it's quite stable in coming year I will be going for honda activa 125 because of good dealership experience over suzuki Swiss though I am honda fan have 2 honda motorcycles and one hero scooter but in recent times I am witnessing good praise of Swiss over activa here in capital of India but because of dealership experience in my home district I will go for activa for my father and brother use
i got heart attack when i see this time 04:21 bcoz im a owner of ntorq RE , it gives you 40kmph with all the rides modes used.
True
I'm sure ntorq won't have better mileage than avenis
Look at that tiny little back tyre. And then how can you think about comparing this with the iconic Ntorq.
Ntorq stands as the master of all scooters.
I don't know why all of the compnies using littile tyre on back. But TVS is the only brand ignore those stupid move.
They never use those on any of there scooters.
Handsoff 👏
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the idiotic bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs??? 😂😂😂
PS: Bought a brand new NTorq RE last week & loving it ❤❤❤
That suzuki's masterpiece 10 inch back tyre 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Rear tyre is smaller to have a shorter gearing, which feel nippy in city conditions and slower speeds, and this might have also reduced the top speed.
Bro what do you know about lifestyle scooter with sporty looks.
Now suzuki's acceleration with OUTSHINED Tvs' atleast upto 70kmph, which is more than sufficient for daily commute.
Mileage kii nammm suna haii??
Nothing wrong with that bro! I have been using burgman for last 2 years...it just looks small that's it
Avenis
Glad to see a japanese company copies a indian one😁
U remember TVS - Suzuki collaboration in the past?? Who copied now 😂...
And tvs , bajaj has been copying suzuki and kawasaki , ktm engines for generations 😬😬
@@MrTransporter5 past has gone today is future
Suzuki fan Bois coming at full speed to defend their only 8bhp scooty which shares the engine with most suzukis
@@aditya6226 😂😅
Yesterday I bought Suzuki avenis. It gives best performance but both avenis and ntorq gives similar performance
Little difference in two scooters
How's your experience till now with it's mileage, corners, speed, after sale service etc
Avenis is more practicle scooter for family purpuse with style.
Don't get all that whining here about the rear wheel of the Suzuki. Just wear the tyre out and put on a slightly wider and fatter one and this "problem" will be fixed once and for all. And concerning the wobbly feeling of the back, it really helps to keep the tyre properly inflated....see lots of scooters riding around with way too low air pressure in the rear tyre....
Suzuki avenis looking very nice 👍
Lovely review as always. Have so many good memories and times at Area 51 shown in your video and so sad that it got burned down 😔
Hi bro
From where you are
Tvs is like siting on vibrator/massage machine but it gives weird feeling.
Jupiter 125 also designed on same base i think.
Org**m🤣🤣😂
@@sumandaimary
Hmm suman Bigger nokia3310.
But boys don't like this stuff. So we prefer "access 125"/avenis great power. With disc break.
Ntorq is a spacious one in terms of carrying various goods.
🧐🧐
Really
Ntorq milage is 35 to 40 in any riding mode
Suzuki uses really small tyre for the rear and it kills the proportions.
Baap,baap hota hai ❤️
Kaun he baap??
Activa
Nice BGM and editing 👍🏼
The Avenis is a motoscooter. It has to look like one. There are some similarities in all the motoscooters be it the Honda Dio, Yamaha Ray Z, ZR (113 cc), Ntorq and now the Avenis too. Who's investigating the case of who copied whom?
The tyres of Avenis dose not allow it to qualify for the title of motoscooter.
@@memerspuberty6995 What is the minimum tyre size requirement for a scooter to be called a motoscooter? Give me some references.
The base design of all these scooter is copied from each other but atleast they have something in there design to call their own unlike the avenis that looks like a chinese copy of 125 scooters
@@memerspuberty6995majority of Honda's and Suzuki's scooter's have 10inch rear tyre. It's used to increase millege and performance. Ntorq's design is truly inspired from aprillias design every one is copying others , The biggest among them was the 1st generation TVS APPACHE, it's design is copied from Bajaj pulsar 150 . Everyone is copying others. Bajaj's 220, ns models are also copied from foreign bikes ( Honda CB 600f). Functionality is what matters. Not the tyre size . Reduced tyre has its own advantages and disadvantages like increased tyre size
@@abinjoy2787 Exactly. People are really coming and saying whatever they want implying most bikes and scooters don't have similarities these days.
My ntorq black panther bought just a month ago giving 40+ mileage
Fully satisfied
Jus a little bit vibration on foot board above 60 km/h
That 3 valve heart make me undstoppable love my bae.❤️
I know a bunch of Ntorq owners including owners of race XP and no one claimed above 40kmpl.. How did you get that much!!!!! Suzuki being Suzuki we can expect that kind of mileage and more I guess.
Saste nashe gave them those numbers for Ntorq🤣
Yess u are ri8...
I got 51kmpl on long drive n 45kmpl on city with my ntorq race edition
@@Lucky-jm5if
45 kmpl in city seriously...🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@RAJ-km8gw yes bro
A question; what is that under-construction or torn-down or Inception styled building/dome in the background from 6 mins onwards?
Is it so tough for Suzuki to put a 12inch back tyre?? 10inch just looks out of place...oh then I remember they also have burgman and intruder with similar kind of pathetic back ends!! 🌹
Scooter's engine are mostly placed in the backside of the scooter... So if you go uphill it the weight goes on the back,
To solve this suzuki place a smaller tyre size an the back, and larger tyres on the front to give more weight in the frontside...
This tyre placement doesn't effect the performance...
@@FelaKhawlhring224 so ntorq engine is in front just like bikes what a lame excuse suzuki did it purposely to extract more mileage as ntorq is a fuel hungry scooter
Suzuki designers are idiots.... that puny 10" wheel at the rear end looks ugly as fcuk... and not only that, the wheelbase is short and that makes things worse.. there is that huge gap ugly gap between rear wheel and mudguard... just like Burger-man street... who are the idiotic bosses at Suzuki who approve of these disproportionate designs??? 😂😂😂
@@mrinmaysardar8360 lol who hurt u. If it makes better mileage then thats the purpose. Ntorq is very short in length too, can't even sit two people properly
@@user-xu7zg4gq5h I'm hurt 😂 smoking weed or what can't read the aforementioned comments or what even avenis isn't comfortable either 😂 it just wanted to compete ntorq with the tried and tested access engine and for mileage there is already present the tried and tested access
My mom have NTorq race XP edition, but I claimed 6.9 seconds in 0-60 kmph in race mode
That rear tiny wheel is a deal breaker. I took test drive of this , overall good but rear tyre breaks the deal. I was really impressed by its look.
I think Suzuki should have made a 3 valve engine.
They already have one of the best and reliable 125cc engine in the country. And you advising Japanese manif how to make engines and what to add? Lol.
Bro they can even do 4 valve, but it will drastically decrease MILEAGE, which will not attract customer.
2 valve is more than sufficient
@@berlins5242 I just said my opinion..I'm not living in North Korea to take permissions before saying opinions.
@@berlins5242 So now he can't even put his opinion? Doesn't matter if its Japanese, peeps like you allow big brands to treat the customers with below par products.
@@er.m.s8930 yes... milage is the fact that they made 2v..but if it was 3 or 4 v it would be awesome.
The Ntorq has to win every competition, no matter what. It wins against the Avenis, Burgman, Ather and even the Aerox! Wow! When it loses on practicality, talk about performance and when it loses on performance, talk about practicality. Just keep the Ntorq at the top somehow!
cuz it is. It's a perfect blend. And everyone out there wants both.
@@gauravthakur7699 Well not for everyone.
This channel is totally biased
@@gauravthakur7699
We don't want only power...
We want refinement mileage and reliability that tvs doesn't offers in ntorq....
And shitty build quality of plastics...
@@RAJ-km8gw That's why I commented bro. It really felt one sided.
Its been 7 months with my race xp i am saying that whenever i ride this scooter outside every body asks me which company is it or is this scooter electric and when they listen the exhaust note it's a another thing ride quality is great i run this scooter at rainy roads and didn't even slide a little bit best scooter out there
Still ntorq🔥
Ntorq average more than 50 😂
I don't own one but my 2 friends told me they are getting 25-35 kmpl
Avenis ❤️🔥
Suzuki is the logical Choice 😍
Suzuki has a better engine
Good review with beautiful cinematography
Ntorq or avnish me utna hi farak hai jitna.... Amitab bachan or sharukhkan ke Don movie me tha.....
Suzuki avenis is allrounder 👑
In which part of India N Torq gives 45+ litre, bad info
Why ntorq has not showing milage in the meter?
YOU CALLED THE NtORQ WINNER ON MOST THINGS WHILE IN 'RACE' MODE YET WHEN IT CAME TO FUEL YOU CAMPARED IT IN STREET MODE. WHAT IS IT IN RACE MODE?
with bs6 engine ntorq is not performance scooter any more. just normal scooter with racing stickers.
You mean 10.8 ps power and 10.2 NM torque is just a gimmick???
@Daniel Vipin but refinement changed ,vibration is low
Ntroq Race xp Is master peace ❤️
Ntorq is far pepier and quick, than Avenis. Still rear tyre of Avenis sucks. Suzuki must work on tyre sizes. Power is also not sportier and punchey in Avenis. Ntorq is clear winner.
Avenis give 64 kmpl mileage bcoz it has the same engine of access 125 where i think access engine on avenus is little tuned but it gives mileage almost same as acces 125
Talking about "originality"...even the ntorq's design was heavily inspired by yamaha ray zr(not a hater ...an ntorq owner here)
@zigwheels Why do you say that the Suzuki is more sophisticated? I couldn't figure out anything new. Its just a copy cat design, with a smaller wheel at the rear.
Ntorq 52kmpl mileage ur joking or u haven't tested doesn't give more than 25kmpl
One of the best review.
We want to see a long drag race please
Coming soon on my Chsnnel
jupiter 125 is copy of activa 125. now suzuki copied tvs.
No. The Jupiter has some innovations like fuel tank placement, boot space etc.
Really ?? That's a lame statement, both looks and feels different, and Jupiter came with external fuel filling in their 1st generation where as it took 2 gen for activa to get it done
Can you please explain how? Jupiter 125 is a completely different machine.
@@mr.banker1211 it's like saying huawei flip phone is a copy of samsung flip ,both went for a flip phone and you can't change much in it that thing should flip to open ,both activa and Jupiter serves the same purpose big family scooter with great milage , both looks diffent ,feels different but tvs improves the vehicle per generation unlike activa who does nothing
@@akshay5569 ✅
Suzuki: TVS can we take inspiration from your design.
TVS : Go ahead. But don't make it too obvious.
Suzuki: Just changes the graphics and logo. Kya hi pata chalega kisi ko.
I bought Suzuki Avenis today, a choose rather than Ntorq.
@4:16 Having Avenis Mat Black
Getting 59-63 kmpl ( Speed limited to 35 -50 kmph only with gradual acceleration )
received , Insane mileage when i test it in same way (Same Speed ) in highway , 75 kmpl 🔥 🔥 (but we will be moving like tortoise wrt surrounding vehicles 😂😂😂
)
Yeah the engine is a gem 💎 i test rode access with constant @55-65 it returned 60+kmpl .
How is the ride quality on Avenis? Is small back wheel a issue?
@@shravanshetty10 : Ride quality : Since its sporty type , suspension is in harder side (stiffer).
If you expect comfort like access 5, activa , etc. You will get disappointed .
Obviously back tyre reduce your confidence in cornering due to smaller size (if you ride in that way)
For ordinary riders won't be any issues at all.
I hope we can go for little wider tyre but i didn't tried yet.
But only Stock configuration always works well for the overall performance , mileage, etc.
How's the after sale service and after almost an years what the update on your experience and will you still back your claim or have you changed your mind ? I wanna get a 125 cc and I'm really confused
What “suzuki has done a good job” ?? In my school my teacher used to punish us if we were copying during our exams.
Point is the Servicing - Which one is better?
Any Ntorq users watching ? Post your scooter's real life mileage here ....
Best I've got is 51kmpl
Lowest 34kmpl
& Average 41kmpl
35-40
Although I am not an owner but I have spent a lot of time on it. Milage is 38 to 45.
45-47 kmpl with 40-60kmph as avg speed
NTorq BS4 on Shell fuel
41kmpl BS4 model
I am so confused between the two.. Don't like the small wheel of avenis. Like ntorq but worried about its long term reliability. Heard it has build quality issues. Start to rattle after couple of years. Water seeps in through petrol valve.. Mind bole avenis due to reliability but dil bole ntorq. Help please
dimag ki suno 😅 kaun sa lia finally?
Which one did u bought and which one is best bro
Ntorq anyday
but where is tha headlights pitch dark night test 😭 🙏
Watch Avenis Headlight Test on My Channel go check more Avenis Video
Everybody bhaging behind of ntorq/ Activa 😆
Activa has good milage even ntorq has very low milage
Avenis has also good milage 👍
Jisko jo gaddi Leni h Lelo faaltu ki bakchodi na Kato 😆
Ntorq always ❤️❤️❤️
The best in performance, sound , speed, cornering, comfort, long rides.
It's a beast 😈
🤢🤢Milage
Avenis still a good choice
TF Suzuki Atleast give a 12 inch rear tyre but I think Suzuki tested it before putting that tyre in the rear but yes Access 125 is better in Comfort and still pulls hardly like the Ntorq only Burgman and SR 125 can beat the Ntorq in Top end.
I appreciated Susuzki avenis man like... Too gud
Long live Ntroq how many Ntroq lover here 🇮🇳
Suzuki just copies design from market leaders. They copied pulsar and made gs150r, then copied fz and made Gixxer, and now copied N torque and made Avnis.
But still Avenis is the only scooter which comes close to scooter in terms of performance.
@@Awwwwd I am not talking about performance, because usually Suzuki does a good job with that. I am talking about looks, which always seems to be copied from existing product rather than doing something original.
Suzuki best performance
Maestro edge 125 or Avenis 125 ! Which one should I buy? Friends suggest me?
Waiting for Suzuki Burgman 155 with Gixxer engine and 17" wheels like Vespa Liberty 150. And, with a floor board. When?