5:59 I was hoping for a few more steps of reinforcement ;) - "I've had some bad experiences with the wooding rails coming loose, so I'm adding some construction adhesive to hold the wooden rails, so they keep the duct tape on, to hold the filter in place. But since the adhesive might crack, I'm encasing the whole thing in cement."
"Problem is that varnish really isn't good for your skin though, so I'm adding a layer of duct tape to my hands to prevent the varnish from getting all over them, and to save on cleanup on brushes, I'm just going to use some old shirt rags to wipe the varnish onto it."
"I don't want the duct tape to rip out the hair on my hands when I peel it off so I lightly cover my hands with sawdust before I put on the tape. This way it doesn't stick too much and I can peel it off easily. Plus the sawdust is free."
I watch these videos and it almost makes me angry how smart you are! I find myself thinking "wow I wish I'd thought of that" time and time again. The angle block that holds the bolt head at the same time is just genius. Always impressed and inspired by your videos. Thank you for sharing what you do
Glad to see you are now using duct tape or foam tape to reduce filter blow by. As a note to other viewers, you can get adaptors that connect round duct to rectangular holes. I need to do something like this because my plastic dust collector broke beyond repair.
Good job as usual. I love to see how people repurpose off-the-shelf items and this was a prime example. I think I have seen rectangular to round sheet metal ducting adaptors or maybe they were for downspouts but either may have also worked. Wearing out screw holes in wood can also be remedied by moving the holes.
Tinkering around paired with engineering work. Thats Matthias. I love it so much. You made my day. I was looking for a solution for dust collection on my belt sander as well. Thanks!
Congratulations, that is called ingenuity. It will maintain a safe environment of wood dust and you do not risk your health or that of those who are close to you. Better safe than sorry.
Thanks for the great video. I really enjoy watching the way you tackle problems...solving them with woodwork & your grey matter😁. Really appreciate the simple individual tool dust collection. It makes more sense in a lot of applications & is far easier to rearrange the shop if you like. I would enjoy seeing some of your non-shop woodwork (a customer piece or two).
I have drill bits that are 50" long, used for drilling from the hinge to the lock across a door for installing electric locks. That tiny bit he has is nothing! ;)
I always like seeing others ideas because you can take something from it and adapt them to fit other projects and ideas one may have. And then you can add/subtract/change it to suit your own ideas.
Great pick up shute, but I would imagine the filter would become clogged very quickly. I have a belt sander and it puts out a LOT of debris when in use, I have a dust collection tube for the back of it.. thanks for sharing!
well done. I got really excited at the front end of the video that your dryer connection at the sander had a nice sweep in sheetmetal. but then you showed us the dust collection side, which looks more like an orifice plate, than a bell mouth. XD I was hoping you would put a bellmouth on the flat side of the box. Would be a problem with a shittier dust collection system, but you just threw a ton of power at it, so no big deal.
Just a thought on your gasket- you could use caulk, but wipe some vaseline on the lid side as a mold release so it only sticks to the one side. Not as free as cardboard though. Also you can drip a bit of crazy glue in the #7 screw holes. It helps to keep the hole from wearing out
I have a suggestion/challenge/query. Can/will you build a power take off (from whatever machine you are using) to drive a fan that provides suction for the dust collection? It would eliminate the need for a dust collection motor. You could use pulleys and or wood gears. I don't think it would drag the machine down too much. Might be complicated but I know you could handle it.
Muy bien aprovechado otros materiales. Ese es un proyecto q yo tengo pendiente, yo lo había pensado con la misma pieza pero de pvc. Aunque tenia pesado degarla un poco mas alta para q no pueda pasar el serrín por encima, y luego a un separador ciclónico, es q ese tipo de filtros de colmatan muy pronto y hay limpiarlos, las industriales sacuden cada poco el filtro para sacudir el polvo adherido al filtro.
I change belts like crazy on my belt sander to go through course to fine grits, so this wouldn’t be practical for me having to take all that apart for each belt change.
Matthias, you took some material you had on hand, built functional parts to fill a need and it works.Good solution. I just don't understand why some people feel the need to find fault with what you have done.
I did something similar. But I fastened a couple rare earth magnet to the pipe I used. It is stable, I can adjust it with ease and remove it without needing to unscrew anything.
What if you lay the box on it's back so the filter is on top. Then add some kind of vibratory device to it so when it's not sucking, you can vibrate all the particles out of your filter to the bottom of the chamber.
lol @ 6:07 I was anticipating "I've had some bad experiences with wooden rails becoming loose over time, so I'm adding some epoxy to the joining surfaces to hold them in place." ... "I've had some bad experience with epoxy degrading over time, so..." etc.
Thanks for another great video. Entertaining as always, and I'm glad to have watched it. But... how do you empty the sawdust and change (or clean) the filter? It seems like a lot of screws for routine maintenance. Also, I wonder if the shape of the duct is actually ideal? I'm genuinely curious if it wouldn't be more effective if the opening were a thinner slot, perhaps, rather than a generously flared opening? I think the answer could probably be answered by google and science. But I bet it could also be discovered through experimentation using scrap hardwood and a pantorouter...? Or maybe instead of just a thin slot, it could be a curved piece of wood to closely fit the shape of the belt, but with just a round hole in the middle which doesn't reach all the way to the edges. This could maybe reduce the amount of air sucking in from the sides (which seems like this air is doing nothing). The air would have to flow very close to the surface of the belt to reach the hose.
hmm, I had one of those way back but lost it. But it would get in the way for sanding curves. Plus shipping to Canada ususally ends up adding another $20
Matthias Wandel True about the cost of shipping, but since the top drum is the same radius curves could be sanded there. Of course, that would be on the opposite end from the dust chute!
Matthias, if you were to ever consider a unified dust collection system with PVC run around the perimeter of the room and emptying into a central unit, how would you go about it? 🤓
I think the logical next step would be making the dust collection into a base and mount the sander to the top, then it would be a smaller self contained system.
"I've had some bad experiences with the depleted uranium brackets that secure the wooden board that secures the duct tape being stolen by North Korea, so I've installed a raspberry pi camera capturing all motion with a live up-link to a private security firm."
wouldn't a lip with a gasket on the blower side of the filter do a much better job of sealing the bypass around your filter? That is what we do in commercial HVAC anyways. Seems like it would be easier to change the filter as well.
hvac uses much lower pressures, and blowby is much less of a problem. It's only air from the house that goes thru, so if a small part bypasses, that's ok. Not so for dust collection
There are many of these 6x48 sanders floating around on the used market for reasonable prices but most of them need a little fixing up. Rather than building one of these out of wood you should build one of the wider units that cost thousands of dollars.
Can it capture flying sanding wood dust? I m looking for a system with the use of air filter, that sucks up wood dust that flies while sanding wood with motored sanding machine
Id say you've wasted your time in carpentry and should have been a sheet metal worker, but you can't make as many useful day to day things from sheet metal. Well done sir!
"When they ware out, I could use longer screws or number 8 screws" Or, you could just drill them out a bit, screw in brass or metal threaded inserts, accompanied with thumb or knob screws and forgo the whole waring out part!
Hello Matthias. Can you please give me some advice. I need to have a professional woodworking company make some wooden patterns of a cast iron woodstove design. My question is: would the pro version of google sketchup provide a suitable file format to give to cnc carpentry companies? Thanks
Man I wish you designed the metal polishing equipment I used to work on when I used to be a metal polisher. If you guys think woodworking is Dusty look up a metal polishing worker they look like they have black face on.
5:59 I was hoping for a few more steps of reinforcement ;) - "I've had some bad experiences with the wooding rails coming loose, so I'm adding some construction adhesive to hold the wooden rails, so they keep the duct tape on, to hold the filter in place. But since the adhesive might crack, I'm encasing the whole thing in cement."
"But I had some bad experience with cement collecting moisture so I'm adding a layer of varnish to seal the cement.
:D
"Problem is that varnish really isn't good for your skin though, so I'm adding a layer of duct tape to my hands to prevent the varnish from getting all over them, and to save on cleanup on brushes, I'm just going to use some old shirt rags to wipe the varnish onto it."
"I don't want the duct tape to rip out the hair on my hands when I peel it off so I lightly cover my hands with sawdust before I put on the tape. This way it doesn't stick too much and I can peel it off easily. Plus the sawdust is free."
OMG! :D
5:14 That was a really smooth audio transition!
DAMN!!! I was gonna say the EXACT same thing!! lol
i dont understand how EVERYTHING you make no matter how mundane is so interesting to me! keep up the magnificent work!
I watch these videos and it almost makes me angry how smart you are! I find myself thinking "wow I wish I'd thought of that" time and time again. The angle block that holds the bolt head at the same time is just genius. Always impressed and inspired by your videos. Thank you for sharing what you do
Glad to see you are now using duct tape or foam tape to reduce filter blow by. As a note to other viewers, you can get adaptors that connect round duct to rectangular holes. I need to do something like this because my plastic dust collector broke beyond repair.
Watching you come up with solutions is always a pleasure.
Next week, Matthias will show us, how to make an insane long drill bit :)
He linked to the Benchworks youtube channel a while back, definitely check him out if you like well thought out wood projects.
Stephan Pöhnlein that's what I noticed too!!
:)
Good job as usual. I love to see how people repurpose off-the-shelf items and this was a prime example. I think I have seen rectangular to round sheet metal ducting adaptors or maybe they were for downspouts but either may have also worked. Wearing out screw holes in wood can also be remedied by moving the holes.
The round-to-rectangular adapters are called 'register boots' or 'duct end boots' and they are perfect for this application.
I enjoy these kind of videos! Thank you!
Watching resourceful people making it work!
Tinkering around paired with engineering work. Thats Matthias. I love it so much.
You made my day. I was looking for a solution for dust collection on my belt sander as well.
Thanks!
Again I'm amazed at his fabricating. Works great.
Congratulations, that is called ingenuity.
It will maintain a safe environment of wood dust and you do not risk your health or that of those who are close to you.
Better safe than sorry.
Thanks for the great video. I really enjoy watching the way you tackle problems...solving them with woodwork & your grey matter😁. Really appreciate the simple individual tool dust collection. It makes more sense in a lot of applications & is far easier to rearrange the shop if you like. I would enjoy seeing some of your non-shop woodwork (a customer piece or two).
your problem solving skills are amazing
How convenient that you own the longest drill in the world.
Next week: Matthias shows us how to make a home made oil drill.
I have drill bits that are 50" long, used for drilling from the hinge to the lock across a door for installing electric locks. That tiny bit he has is nothing! ;)
I think you can turn a long rod into a drill bit by sharpening the tip, better than nothing I guess for wood.
My thoughts exactly. Had to stop the vid and think about that one. lol
You inventions are the best. Thanks for posting.
He gets points for creativity for sure a good video for young kids to watch showing if you put your mind to something you can do anything.
Thanks for the vid Matthias! Always look forward to your Friday tutorials.
Ahhhhhhh Mattthias is back to making cool stuff! Harbor Freight here in the states and Amazon have those long drill bits!
You're like the king of taking spare parts from all over the place and making something new out of it
I love watching your solutions to problems in making stuff.
That can be more interesting than the project :-)
I like when you used the cardboard as a gasket. Great video.
I always like seeing others ideas because you can take something from it and adapt them to fit other projects and ideas one may have. And then you can add/subtract/change it to suit your own ideas.
Nice that you are back with new projects :)
A+ miters on that weather stripping gasket.
Love your videos Matthias.
Maybe not the prettiest jobs out there, but he sure knows how to make custom jigs.
And things easy for him
It's amazing to think there was a time before dust collection... by amazing I mean scary.
Great pick up shute, but I would imagine the filter would become clogged very quickly. I have a belt sander and it puts out a LOT of debris when in use, I have a dust collection tube for the back of it.. thanks for sharing!
have been using the same filter on my other 6x48" belt sander, and it hasn't been a problem.
Such patience. Well done.
Anyone else think that little block with the angle slot in it is absolute genius? :)
well done.
I got really excited at the front end of the video that your dryer connection at the sander had a nice sweep in sheetmetal.
but then you showed us the dust collection side, which looks more like an orifice plate, than a bell mouth. XD
I was hoping you would put a bellmouth on the flat side of the box.
Would be a problem with a shittier dust collection system, but you just threw a ton of power at it, so no big deal.
Nice, I've been putting dust collection on everything that I can!
Love the technical nomenclature, "flippy thing" "dust collection thingy".
Just a thought on your gasket- you could use caulk, but wipe some vaseline on the lid side as a mold release so it only sticks to the one side. Not as free as cardboard though.
Also you can drip a bit of crazy glue in the #7 screw holes. It helps to keep the hole from wearing out
5:51 That's such an easy way to measure out duct tape. Thank you very much.
You ingenuity amazes me keep it up.
*Your
I have a suggestion/challenge/query. Can/will you build a power take off (from whatever machine you are using) to drive a fan that provides suction for the dust collection? It would eliminate the need for a dust collection motor. You could use pulleys and or wood gears. I don't think it would drag the machine down too much. Might be complicated but I know you could handle it.
This is the sort of thing I’ve been saving junk for in my junk boxes.
I still haven’t done it though.
The more I see you and John with your individualized dust collectors the more I wonder about my central 2HP unit... ;-) Good macgyvering job, btw.
Muy bien aprovechado otros materiales. Ese es un proyecto q yo tengo pendiente, yo lo había pensado con la misma pieza pero de pvc. Aunque tenia pesado degarla un poco mas alta para q no pueda pasar el serrín por encima, y luego a un separador ciclónico, es q ese tipo de filtros de colmatan muy pronto y hay limpiarlos, las industriales sacuden cada poco el filtro para sacudir el polvo adherido al filtro.
5:16 a home made blower doing 10x more than a furnace blower?
thats actually pretty impressive!
I change belts like crazy on my belt sander to go through course to fine grits, so this wouldn’t be practical for me having to take all that apart for each belt change.
I wish I still had a belt sander. Had that same one til a relative decided he needed it more than me.
I love this guys vids so much
Channel reminds me of Gilligan's Island. Remember all those creations those guys built from like - coconuts and bamboo.......
You have a very useful video!
Beautiful invention
Matthias, you took some material you had on hand, built functional parts to fill a need and it works.Good solution. I just don't understand why some people feel the need to find fault with what you have done.
people who have no accomplishments like to belittle those of others.
It gives them a cheap high.
Well said Matthias.
I did something similar. But I fastened a couple rare earth magnet to the pipe I used. It is stable, I can adjust it with ease and remove it without needing to unscrew anything.
happy 2018 matthias you are a cluey fellow
Inventor. Genius. Matthias Wandel.
"45 minutes later.."
That's cute. Sometimes I like to pretend that my attempt at something like this would take less than a week.
A week.. you are getting way too efficient... sometimes it takes me months... just for the glory of "I'll do it later"
This year I will finish rebuilding my table saw... probably.
I have a project that has been sitting there so long it's transitioned over to "some day I'll dispose of that"
Thank goodness your on our side..
What if you lay the box on it's back so the filter is on top. Then add some kind of vibratory device to it so when it's not sucking, you can vibrate all the particles out of your filter to the bottom of the chamber.
Works great!nice job
You should add this to your dust collection playlist! (And maybe enable captions?)
The high speed hammer edits remind me of HowTo Basic's maniacal egg destroying jump cuts 😊
lol @ 6:07 I was anticipating "I've had some bad experiences with wooden rails becoming loose over time, so I'm adding some epoxy to the joining surfaces to hold them in place."
...
"I've had some bad experience with epoxy degrading over time, so..."
etc.
I love how you repurpose motors. Do you have to do any sort of testing to make sure you don't overload it for a particular application?
You can always use toothpicks to fill the screw holes when they start to wear out. It is shop furniture.
Thanks for another great video. Entertaining as always, and I'm glad to have watched it. But... how do you empty the sawdust and change (or clean) the filter? It seems like a lot of screws for routine maintenance. Also, I wonder if the shape of the duct is actually ideal? I'm genuinely curious if it wouldn't be more effective if the opening were a thinner slot, perhaps, rather than a generously flared opening? I think the answer could probably be answered by google and science. But I bet it could also be discovered through experimentation using scrap hardwood and a pantorouter...? Or maybe instead of just a thin slot, it could be a curved piece of wood to closely fit the shape of the belt, but with just a round hole in the middle which doesn't reach all the way to the edges. This could maybe reduce the amount of air sucking in from the sides (which seems like this air is doing nothing). The air would have to flow very close to the surface of the belt to reach the hose.
Looks like the official Shopsmith belt sander dust chute is currently $23 + S&H. Of course, that wouldn’t have been as interesting a video.
hmm, I had one of those way back but lost it. But it would get in the way for sanding curves. Plus shipping to Canada ususally ends up adding another $20
Matthias Wandel True about the cost of shipping, but since the top drum is the same radius curves could be sanded there. Of course, that would be on the opposite end from the dust chute!
Put some cheese on the belt and something to trip the power and film the the rats launching onto a screw studded target.
Matthias, if you were to ever consider a unified dust collection system with PVC run around the perimeter of the room and emptying into a central unit, how would you go about it? 🤓
Have you considered learning 3d printing? It would help with custom part yet still keep to the fantastic format of these videos
Einfach gut gemacht !
There is one expression in Brazil I always think about whenever Im watching these videos: gambiarra. Seems kludge is the equivalent in English.
I think the logical next step would be making the dust collection into a base and mount the sander to the top, then it would be a smaller self contained system.
"I've had some bad experiences with the depleted uranium brackets that secure the wooden board that secures the duct tape being stolen by North Korea, so I've installed a raspberry pi camera capturing all motion with a live up-link to a private security firm."
wouldn't a lip with a gasket on the blower side of the filter do a much better job of sealing the bypass around your filter? That is what we do in commercial HVAC anyways. Seems like it would be easier to change the filter as well.
hvac uses much lower pressures, and blowby is much less of a problem. It's only air from the house that goes thru, so if a small part bypasses, that's ok. Not so for dust collection
Great video, your videos are a good source of inspiration. May I ask which design program do you use to do your plans?
Make a mechanism that drags one of those sanding pad blocks across the bottom of the sander to clean the sandpaper!
There are many of these 6x48 sanders floating around on the used market for reasonable prices but most of them need a little fixing up. Rather than building one of these out of wood you should build one of the wider units that cost thousands of dollars.
Can it capture flying sanding wood dust? I m looking for a system with the use of air filter, that sucks up wood dust that flies while sanding wood with motored sanding machine
Id say you've wasted your time in carpentry and should have been a sheet metal worker, but you can't make as many useful day to day things from sheet metal. Well done sir!
Arnt you consernt with the fire hassard? Fine dust in a not ex motor? It can burn wery fast? 🤔
you could get extra ability if the collection side of the filter was on the underside so gravity could also help
What education do you have? At least you think like a experienced engineer. Love your videos!
You would be right, have a look at one of his many patents :)
6:25 nice looking piece of wood on the lid of the filter box. Is that one piece?
it was a really awful scrap of plywood, but just the right size.
A man
cannot have
too many
CLAMPS!
Have you met Adam Savage? If not you need to. He's great and you could teach him a few things.
Genius as railways
Do you still have your router copy carver? I would love to see more videos using that.
Matthias, what are some of the more exotic dusts that you have collected?
What about using foam weatherstrip for doors to seal in filters?
What are the tools required for sucking up sanding dust?
You need to get your paws on a 3D printer. It's perfect for tool mods like this.
Which type of air filter and of what specifications fan are used in this system?
"When they ware out, I could use longer screws or number 8 screws"
Or, you could just drill them out a bit, screw in brass or metal threaded inserts, accompanied with thumb or knob screws and forgo the whole waring out part!
yes, but the whole "wearing out part" is so far down the road, it will probably outlast me.
considered mounting it to that bit sticking out the side ?
Hello Matthias. Can you please give me some advice. I need to have a professional woodworking company make some wooden patterns of a cast iron woodstove design. My question is: would the pro version of google sketchup provide a suitable file format to give to cnc carpentry companies? Thanks
So much better than the Diresta crap...
Harden the screw holes in the frame with super glue. That will make them last a lot longer without having to go to a larger or longer screw.
Watch as matthias wandel assembles everything he has already made. Spoiler: he also drills some holes for a change.
Is there anything to can’t make with wood??
Where do you get those long drill bits?
1:40 “I just cut a notch out of here”. You work for Apple by any chance?
Man I wish you designed the metal polishing equipment I used to work on when I used to be a metal polisher. If you guys think woodworking is Dusty look up a metal polishing worker they look like they have black face on.
Woodworking is still Dusty and everything Matthias does is still worthwhile. Not trying to have a pissing contest
Speeding up the video while keeping the audio normal makes me think Matthias really is that fast