that pass at 1:36 exemplifies Simms talent. Look at how it drops it in there over Bavaro's outside shoulder among 3 defenders! Just fantastic! He threw for over 500 yards with NO LONG PASSES, and not much for yards after the catch. Phil simply diced up the defense with incredibly accurate passing. And while the big ball is more exciting, as an ex-QB (not very good) I can tell you that a spot-on 15-20 yard bullet on a crossing pattern is MUCH harder than hitting a guy on a 50 yard flag or streak. Just imagine having to anticipate not only where the receiver will be as he hauls ass across the middle, but also anticipating where the corners, LBs and safety will be. Not where they ARE...but where they will - or more importantly, WON'T - be when the ball gets to that point in space. It's absolutely amazing it works out as often as it does. The great ones make something extremely difficult look SO easy.
Thanks for another vintage vid! I think Simms belongs in the HOF. No gaudy numbers, he was consummate passer, his Super Bowl MVP performance remains unmatched for accuracy. He was also a monster competitor, but he never had half the play-making receivers Eli’s had. When he did, it was Simms to Bavaro! Did they hook up on some of the most memorable plays ever!
One thing Simms did throughout his career that this film illustrates is how well he distributed his passes. Bavaro was the main guy throughout this game but I heard Morris, McConkey, Carthon, Manuel and Bobby Johnson called out as well.
Some of them throws were pretty awesome. Loved Phil Simms. I started watching toward end of his career(1990). Still he's one of my all time faves. LT, Strahan, Armstead, Tiki, Eli, Toomer, Simms, and Rodney Hampton. Those my all time fave Gmen of my fandom yrs(90-present). Got a feeling Barkley gonna join that list sooner then later.lol
No touchdowns til his last pass. Strange game. They were down 12 when Simms connected on the TD. They outgained the Bengals 470-199 but had 4 turnovers and were down 21-0 before making it a game.
*How could the Giants have 470 yards of total offense in this game when Simms threw for 513 yards? That would mean that the Giants had -43 rushing yards, which wasn't the case.*
There is suspense to that video. When a qb throws 513 yards you start to wonder how its possible that he might not even have one touchdown pass...not until the final throw.
This clip proves what a difference having a great offensive line makes. Clean pocket all game long . If Daniel Jones had this kind of time in the pocket with the quality of recievers Phil had, he thrives his first 3 years.
oh man..remember in the good old days when on 3rd and long they actually tried to throw for a third down...unlike today when its mostly screens and dink/dunk in the hope the defence screws up.....
Crazy (& unimpressive) thing to me.. Simms basically telegraphed every pass. Almost no looking-off defenders, virtually no play-action fakes. Simms just took the snap & watched his intended receiver the entire play. No real long balls either. Still a great yardage day tho.
Other than Van Brocklin, Simms did it first. It wasn't even a good game, that's not the way the Giants liked to play back in the 80's. Much happier with Simms throwing for 250 and a victory.
Strange stats: 513 yards, but only one completion for more than 30 yards (and 32 at that). Sacked 7 times. Only 1 TD pass against 2 INTs. And the Giants lost. Bavaro looked great, though.
Most of the time when you see Qb's throwing for 400+ yards, they're the losing team and the other team is giving all those underneath plays to kill the clock !!
@davidquinn9476 There's been many games of more passing yards and losing the game. Off the top of my head, Tony Romo vs. Manning and the Broncos, Dan Marino did it at least once. I know one vs. the Jets
Not as impressive as the NFL Monday Night Football game, Nov. 17, 1975, featuring the Bills with O.J. Simpson's 200 yards rushing vs. the Bengals with Ken Anderson's unprecedented 447 yards through the air--every one needed to defeat the Bills--and in the era of the "dead ball" when the game was played on the ground, when scoring was low, when an Isaac Curtis could be mugged all the way down field and when a QB like Anderson could be harassed, blinded, tackled high and low within a rapidly collapsing pocket. The game showcased the old game emphasizing defense and rushing vs. the new game devised by Bengal coach Paul Brown and his quarterback coach Bill Walsh to use the high-percentage pass to be competetive against bigger and brawnier teams.. The result was a livelier game with higher scores and more action. This 1975 game represented a contrast and a seminal milestone, giving the nation a glimpse of the future of professional football. (Of course, teams like Ditka's Bears would show that throw-backs to the Monsters of the Midway would occasionally re-take control.)
The 1985 season for the Giants made me crazy. They lost the division to the Cowboys despite being much better than Dallas. The Giants outgained the Bengals by 300 yards and lost. They should have beaten the Browns, and the Cowboys at least once, if not twice. The Giants should have cruised to the division and then played the Bears for the NFC title. It could have been back-to-back Superbowls for the Giants in "85 and "86.
Even if everything you said happened, they still played the Bears in the playoffs and lost. I'm not sure how the back to back Super Bowls was going to happen
Taylor did get 1 sack in this game.... but you're right about Munoz shutting him down. I'd even go as far as saying this may have been the worst game of Taylor's career.
@@johnsmith3091 I guess after all these years I forgot. LT didnt factor much. I'm pretty sure the Bengals ran the ball right at him a lot that day. Big day for the offenses.
This game proves the point Ive been making for years; YARDS AFTER CATCH overrated. This guy threw for 513 threw the air. Joe Morris made a good catch and run as did Bavaro but the most of these yards were legitimate quarterback passing yards thru the air.
How does that make any sense? What do you mean it's overrated? Would you rather not have YAC? The Giants lost this game. More YAC and fewer attempts would have helped them.
Who the heck was the Bengals D-coordinator in this game?!? Every time Cincy blitzed, the G-Men picked it up and Simms connected with someone. The DB's didn't look very good in man to man coverage.
Is this real? C’mon man. I’ve been watching the Giants these last two years and there’s no way the Giants played like this. Somebody figured out how to Photoshop football.
Mark Bavaro, Joe Morris, Maurice Carthon, Phil McConkey, and Lionel Manuel, and that great offensive line, LOVE IT!!!
Born and raised in Dallas TX. Lifelong Cowboy fan. Much respect for the NYG and Phil Simms
no one asked. no one cares. sportsball
@@uy7munir jerk
Lionel Manuel caught 8 for 111 and Bavaro caught 12 for 176! Great highlights, thanks!
In my best Summerall deep voice... “ and it’s Simms to Bavaro for the completion “.
Injuries wrecked Bavaro's career, but when he was in his prime, he was my favorite player --and I am fro Chicago!
that pass at 1:36 exemplifies Simms talent. Look at how it drops it in there over Bavaro's outside shoulder among 3 defenders! Just fantastic! He threw for over 500 yards with NO LONG PASSES, and not much for yards after the catch. Phil simply diced up the defense with incredibly accurate passing. And while the big ball is more exciting, as an ex-QB (not very good) I can tell you that a spot-on 15-20 yard bullet on a crossing pattern is MUCH harder than hitting a guy on a 50 yard flag or streak. Just imagine having to anticipate not only where the receiver will be as he hauls ass across the middle, but also anticipating where the corners, LBs and safety will be. Not where they ARE...but where they will - or more importantly, WON'T - be when the ball gets to that point in space. It's absolutely amazing it works out as often as it does. The great ones make something extremely difficult look SO easy.
Simms was very good passer. Very accurate. Not that great a quarterback. Big difference.
Thanks for another vintage vid! I think Simms belongs in the HOF. No gaudy numbers, he was consummate passer, his Super Bowl MVP performance remains unmatched for accuracy. He was also a monster competitor, but he never had half the play-making receivers Eli’s had. When he did, it was Simms to Bavaro! Did they hook up on some of the most memorable plays ever!
Simms was the ultimate drop back pocket passer.
Bavaro was so underrated,dude was a machine!
One thing Simms did throughout his career that this film illustrates is how well he distributed his passes. Bavaro was the main guy throughout this game but I heard Morris, McConkey, Carthon, Manuel and Bobby Johnson called out as well.
Plus Tony Galbreath and George Adams.
Some of them throws were pretty awesome. Loved Phil Simms. I started watching toward end of his career(1990). Still he's one of my all time faves. LT, Strahan, Armstead, Tiki, Eli, Toomer, Simms, and Rodney Hampton. Those my all time fave Gmen of my fandom yrs(90-present). Got a feeling Barkley gonna join that list sooner then later.lol
40-62 for 513. Wow.
Chase your tail Phil, c'mon chase your tail.
L.T. vs Anthony Munoz..... Please show some Bengal offense highlights!
Bavaro was a beast!
Amen! Underrated imo.
Just one TD, that's insane
why is it matter? a TD pass is just anothee complete pass
GREAT UPLOAD!! THANKS!!
I remember this game vividly . Boomer vs. Phil , thanks brother .
Great work as usual John
He never had the biggest arm, but he was so accurate, he could dice you up.
I always have felt that Simms was an underrated QB. For my money, he was the best Giants QB in team history.
@@mikemccoy9705over Eli Manning?
@@cmoney_5045
Liked them both but Simms was my guy
No touchdowns til his last pass. Strange game. They were down 12 when Simms connected on the TD. They outgained the Bengals 470-199 but had 4 turnovers and were down 21-0 before making it a game.
*How could the Giants have 470 yards of total offense in this game when Simms threw for 513 yards? That would mean that the Giants had -43 rushing yards, which wasn't the case.*
@@superbrownbrown Sack yardage.
Thank you
There is suspense to that video. When a qb throws 513 yards you start to wonder how its possible that he might not even have one touchdown pass...not until the final throw.
This clip proves what a difference having a great offensive line makes. Clean pocket all game long . If Daniel Jones had this kind of time in the pocket with the quality of recievers Phil had, he thrives his first 3 years.
oh man..remember in the good old days when on 3rd and long they actually tried to throw for a third down...unlike today when its mostly screens and dink/dunk in the hope the defence screws up.....
Crazy (& unimpressive) thing to me.. Simms basically telegraphed every pass. Almost no looking-off defenders, virtually no play-action fakes. Simms just took the snap & watched his intended receiver the entire play. No real long balls either. Still a great yardage day tho.
QB being ridiculously accurate is def not impressive😳
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Other than Van Brocklin, Simms did it first. It wasn't even a good game, that's not the way the Giants liked to play back in the 80's. Much happier with Simms throwing for 250 and a victory.
Strange stats: 513 yards, but only one completion for more than 30 yards (and 32 at that). Sacked 7 times. Only 1 TD pass against 2 INTs. And the Giants lost. Bavaro looked great, though.
Most of the time when you see Qb's throwing for 400+ yards, they're the losing team and the other team is giving all those underneath plays to kill the clock !!
That Cincinnati team was prolific!
That Cincinnati team finished 7-9, and were 2-4 after winning this game. The Giants finished 10-6.
Wow that's gotta be an NFL record. Most yards in a losing cause.
@davidquinn9476 There's been many games of more passing yards and losing the game. Off the top of my head, Tony Romo vs. Manning and the Broncos, Dan Marino did it at least once. I know one vs. the Jets
Not as impressive as the NFL Monday Night Football game, Nov. 17, 1975, featuring the Bills with O.J. Simpson's 200 yards rushing vs. the Bengals with Ken Anderson's unprecedented 447 yards through the air--every one needed to defeat the Bills--and in the era of the "dead ball" when the game was played on the ground, when scoring was low, when an Isaac Curtis could be mugged all the way down field and when a QB like Anderson could be harassed, blinded, tackled high and low within a rapidly collapsing pocket. The game showcased the old game emphasizing defense and rushing vs. the new game devised by Bengal coach Paul Brown and his quarterback coach Bill Walsh to use the high-percentage pass to be competetive against bigger and brawnier teams.. The result was a livelier game with higher scores and more action. This 1975 game represented a contrast and a seminal milestone, giving the nation a glimpse of the future of professional football. (Of course, teams like Ditka's Bears would show that throw-backs to the Monsters of the Midway would occasionally re-take control.)
I'll take the 1&3 Giants Monday night win over the 4&0 Bills in 75 over that one one.
All these passes were right on the money
The 1985 season for the Giants made me crazy. They lost the division to the Cowboys despite being much better than Dallas. The Giants outgained the Bengals by 300 yards and lost. They should have beaten the Browns, and the Cowboys at least once, if not twice. The Giants should have cruised to the division and then played the Bears for the NFC title. It could have been back-to-back Superbowls for the Giants in "85 and "86.
Even if everything you said happened, they still played the Bears in the playoffs and lost. I'm not sure how the back to back Super Bowls was going to happen
+john smith Can u show little clips of Giants vs colts 2006?
I was at this game. Munoz didn't let LT even sniff Boomer. Was a fun game to watch.
Taylor did get 1 sack in this game.... but you're right about Munoz shutting him down. I'd even go as far as saying this may have been the worst game of Taylor's career.
@@johnsmith3091 I guess after all these years I forgot. LT didnt factor much. I'm pretty sure the Bengals ran the ball right at him a lot that day. Big day for the offenses.
@@darrenkoons2386
I heard it was officially registered as 1/2 a sack.
And I bet this full game will never be uploaded on YT.
john smith Dude, after such comment I badly want to watch this fucking game just to see Munoz goes at LT and, for a second, - shuts him
Kid Mack Why? Not to embarrass Taylor?
I attended this game and offered the fellow who got the ball from the final pass to Adams $200.00/
Look at that Oline.
This game proves the point Ive been making for years; YARDS AFTER CATCH overrated. This guy threw for 513 threw the air. Joe Morris made a good catch and run as did Bavaro but the most of these yards were legitimate quarterback passing yards thru the air.
capricornmagic63 thats what mccockiner always says about brady
@@отпирайте lmfaooo good catch
Moffett's Solution i think he is an idiot but its good to learn about new people and their POV.
How does that make any sense? What do you mean it's overrated? Would you rather not have YAC? The Giants lost this game. More YAC and fewer attempts would have helped them.
Did he have any td
Bavaro didn't have a big game or anything did he?
Damn shame Bavaro had all those knee injuries, would've easily been in the Hall if not.
UM-AYYY-ZING!
He throws like Heineke
Would've been 1013 if the pass "defense" rules of today were a thing back then, lol.
Can you upload Eli’s 510 yards vs. Tampa Bay in 2012?
I don't know if I ever saw so many yards on mostly dinks and dunks....
how many touchdowns did Phil Simms had in this game?
1
@@hobbs12cats
Bwahahaha!
He picked them apart.
Who the heck was the Bengals D-coordinator in this game?!? Every time Cincy blitzed, the G-Men picked it up and Simms connected with someone. The DB's didn't look very good in man to man coverage.
Is this real? C’mon man. I’ve been watching the Giants these last two years and there’s no way the Giants played like this. Somebody figured out how to Photoshop football.
Did the giants win?
Too bad no fantasy football back then...Simms would have generated a ton of points!!
Giants lost this game too!!
What were Boomer's stats on this day?
That same day later on chi played @sf and they had pat & John do this game? Really? CBS’s bias for the nyg really bothered me
Madden didn’t like to fly. That was most likely the reason.
And only one touchdown pass
The bengals, lol
And they lost the game, if memory serves me. Meaningless record.
All record mean something !!! Even if you lose !!!
@@ericpelote998 True.