Imagine this. Meet your neighbours when they or you first move in so you or they feel comfortable enough to be adults and solve problems not create more.
@@lighnr Bass shaker or even a small subwoofer with a proper big box is enough to shake off the neighbors. Even just normal Hi-Fi speakers are enough to do it.
In theory because this stiffens the internal structure this could benfit the trueforce haptics in the wheel as now there is less internal flex the trueforce vibrations might be felt more
You can make it quiter without spending more than 2 dollars.. Just buy these felt stickers for under a chairs feet. Then stick them between the "rails" or "cograil" which are responsible for turning the wheel (sry but english isn't my native) the FFB motors are moving these, so it's easy to find. I hope you get what i mean. Also put a bit of extra lubricant in if you have the wheel open anyways. Tadaa this will reduce the noise around 80% or even more.
@@lighnr Yeah i believe you haha, the problem is that i don't even know how to call these things in german. The ffb motors have tiny gears which move long, black plastic things (rails) left and right. Between these two black thingys there's some space which makes the noise, if you cancel that space with the felt, it's much quiter. Believe me, if you open the wheel and see the ffb motors and where they connecting with their gears, you'll understand what i meant 😅
@@Dinous_65 Yes they're responsible for the wheel rotation. They're rectangular and maybe about 20cm (7.8inch) long and i believe they called "racks" or "cograil" You have to open the wheel base to find them.
@@WhiteCranK That space is visible in the video? If yes, can you just point the second where it is showing? I'm trying to prepare everything before opening the wheel, so it would be useful to know what to do!
G25 is quiet, it has better - two gears and spring mechanism - compensation of noise making from loose gears. If you want quiet, make gaps between gears teeth smaller by mounting them closer to each other .
G29 have helical gears which make no noise at all. All the noise is from electric motors shaft hitting plastics stoppers. This is caused by helical gears, they pull or push shafts. Noise in this construction can only be eliminated if Logitech used herringbone gears. I guess that plastic gears could not handle torque..
Je ne pense pas que cette pièce soit réellement prévu pour réduire les sons de claquement mais plutôt pour remplacer en cas de casse , par une pièces plus rigide et de meilleurs qualité , qui rend le volant plus agréable a utiliser
in my opinion if you bought your wheel before yes otherwise if you get the wheel plus all the upgrades to make it better its not since you can get a direct drive for that price and a good one
Just ordered on Ali express, it's my last resort to revitalize the wheel, my chassis cracked. Can't wait for it to arrive. Thank you for the video :D .
The common cracking around the bearing housing can also be fixed with a dremel, a large jubilee clip (hose clamp) and some patience! You just have to keyhole the support ribs around the bearing housing, feed the jubilee clip through and tighten down. Completely removed all of the play in my wheel!
Thanks for the upload ill be picking one up for my 923 as its insane how loud this wheel is. Every game i reduce the road feel to almost nothing to help with it, even curbs on most tracks get the thing sounding like a jackhammer.
the rack limiter is what makes all the noise, I need to find a replacement for mine but finding new ones are impossible. Also Ifixit show a teardown and how to recalibrate the alignment :)
The inside of the wheelbase needs to be greased after a while. When you use your wheel daily the pieces inside generate friction. That burns the grease inside of it, and believe me, from the factory it comes with way less grease than it actually needs. I have a g27 its very old nowadays and i greased it because i Bought it used and it works perfectly.
Taking your comment on the overall effect on old wheels vs new, Danny one could say your wheel will now hold its "feel" characteristics as you sense it, longer, perhaps even longer than the design life of the wheel. So, as an upgrade I still believe it is a good one to have on a new wheel. My used wheel is in right now on its way to me. When I first use it I will be looking for wear issues and will keep this mod in mind. For Aussies interested in this mod this plate is AU$74 including shipping as at June, 2024.
Awesome upgrade for $35. Could you please also try insulating the original plastic part with spray foam or sound deadening mat from car audio? I would be very interested in the results. I just bought a new G293 set and the DF Shifter for $215 and $20, respectively. While
What makes the most amount of noise in these wheels is the hard stop mechanism. While Logitech has better main gearbox than Thrustmaster with their 'hybrid' approach (which is basically a glorified but really coarse gear mechanism with added belt to smooth some of the high frequency FFB effects out), Thrustmaster got one thing right. They have made a steering wheel shaft into a screw and made what essentially is a plastic nut going back and forth on it, bumping into hard stops and thus limiting travel. Much smoother, much quieter. Hell, for what what I care, I may end up buying G2x/G92x wheel and modding the crap out of it for the giggles. So while this mod helps for sure as metal cover will dampen the noise as it's much heavier than original and much more stiff, you may want to design and 3D print a better pinion gear, perhaps with some rubber rollers on it, to eliminate plastic on plastic contact.
I was considering this the other day, not cause I need it at all more because I could so thank you for your review been looking for a second opinion on these before buying and you hit that mark for me, might be worth upgrading down the line less cause of sound more to remove potential failure points in the wheel.
I made similar things to my bro's g27 and result was same we made a 3d printed sleeves instead of plastic parts. I also tried rc car tooth wheel for my g29 for just one motor, i think this is better solution. Almost no friction but should make a special part for motor which is with encoder.
Been using my G25 since release and still using it to this day. This is one upgrade that could be fun investing in and possibly even noise canceling foam could be an interesting customization when the wheel goes bad. I am strong believer in upgrading the old tech can give you just as much fun and pleasure in games, plus picking up on some knowledge of the internal, should i feel creating my own. Thank you testing this, very interesting and a good courtesy investment.
I wonder if you could simply add noise dampening (insulators, that are also used in cars), inside the housing, if that would dampen the sound. Sad that no one has tried this. But also having an aluminium body feels more robust than the plastic thats included.
I want to lube the big center gear and the 2 small gears behind the electric motors cause they sound a lot when the wheel is returning,sould i use lithium grease?
I have this problem with steering wheel doing these sounds and kuke scratching or something inside and i just bought it but my friend which has the wheel fot a year or more he told me just to play and it will fix itself
I think its good for it to be loud more immersion, i made a VIDEO on this wheel where add more GREASE on the cog mechanism it made it somewhat silent its on my utube chanel have a look and let me know what you think of the FIX
@@terence77o7turn it down from what I have seen, I just ordered mine before seeing these vids about the noise so I’m already looking at fixes just in case. People say it depends on the game, but turning down the FFB settings can help
Hey man just wondering if you came across the metal spring which is like a half moon when you’d separated the internals from the base, mine fell out when I separated it and can’t figure out for the life of me where it came from
I mean if you're buying new hardware, definitely. If you're running old stuff you bought years ago and aren't ready to spend hundreds on a better wheel and a strong enough base to handle the upgrade, this seems like a worthwhile stopgap modification.
@@danielisbell Thing is, if your at a point where a little bit of rumble and squeek is effecting your lap times, your ready for better equipment. Save the money wasted on upgrading old shit and buy better. Patience costs nothing!!
My G29 started making such noises a few weeks in, from using almost all the FFB range but barely avoiding clipping. The sharper turns in my daily Nürburgring lap reach 3/4th the FFB range, crashes clip for obvious reasons. I could lower FFB to 100% instead of the 200% to lessen it, but as long as clipping is avoided during normal driving, more FBB more better. So I'll simply stand the noise, or take it apart and grease it if I feel the need to.
It is you or your headphones or speakers being rubbish. The rattly-ness is clearly less loud and harsh, about half the volume on balanced and flat studio headphones. So not the most significant improvement, but clear-cut nonetheless and noticeable in actual use.
Even though everyone on the internet says the logitech wheels are loud af - my G920 never did those horrible noises. And i swapped the wheel and every possible freaking mod except this aluminium bs useless thing
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Even though it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend money to upgrade this level of wheel, I love seeing mods to see what's possible.
a lot of people get these used for $100. The $36 mod greatly improves the feel. Though do the brake pedal first!
I just bought i cuz my old housing broke
@@TheOfficialOriginalChadjust got a g923 for 220$
Modding it isnt expensive though if your a working adult, im getting one cause my housing broke.
I hope you're not a Honda fan!
I use my g29 as revenge tool , when my neighbours watch the TV to loud i go hearthquack mod(dirt 2.0 and ac with mod is my fav)
I usually just fire up my amp and play some rock music with the subwoofer going like woof woof.
I recomend black/death metal.
Enjoy the exorcism orcthey moving out.
Imagine this. Meet your neighbours when they or you first move in so you or they feel comfortable enough to be adults and solve problems not create more.
there is a special music box for that where you put agains the seeling and it plays the sound through the material
@@lighnr Bass shaker or even a small subwoofer with a proper big box is enough to shake off the neighbors. Even just normal Hi-Fi speakers are enough to do it.
In theory because this stiffens the internal structure this could benfit the trueforce haptics in the wheel as now there is less internal flex the trueforce vibrations might be felt more
You can make it quiter without spending more than 2 dollars..
Just buy these felt stickers for under a chairs feet.
Then stick them between the "rails" or "cograil" which are responsible for turning the wheel (sry but english isn't my native)
the FFB motors are moving these, so it's easy to find. I hope you get what i mean.
Also put a bit of extra lubricant in if you have the wheel open anyways.
Tadaa this will reduce the noise around 80% or even more.
Sounds interesting but I dont really get between which rails.
@@lighnr Yeah i believe you haha, the problem is that i don't even know how to call these things in german.
The ffb motors have tiny gears which move long, black plastic things (rails) left and right. Between these two black thingys there's some space which makes the noise, if you cancel that space with the felt, it's much quiter.
Believe me, if you open the wheel and see the ffb motors and where they connecting with their gears, you'll understand what i meant 😅
Is it the rail on the back that limits the wheels movement or where roughly are those "rails" located and what is their shape?
@@Dinous_65 Yes they're responsible for the wheel rotation.
They're rectangular and maybe about 20cm (7.8inch) long and i believe they called "racks" or "cograil"
You have to open the wheel base to find them.
@@WhiteCranK That space is visible in the video? If yes, can you just point the second where it is showing? I'm trying to prepare everything before opening the wheel, so it would be useful to know what to do!
G25 is quiet, it has better - two gears and spring mechanism - compensation of noise making from loose gears. If you want quiet, make gaps between gears teeth smaller by mounting them closer to each other .
G29 have helical gears which make no noise at all. All the noise is from electric motors shaft hitting plastics stoppers. This is caused by helical gears, they pull or push shafts. Noise in this construction can only be eliminated if Logitech used herringbone gears. I guess that plastic gears could not handle torque..
Je ne pense pas que cette pièce soit réellement prévu pour réduire les sons de claquement mais plutôt pour remplacer en cas de casse , par une pièces plus rigide et de meilleurs qualité , qui rend le volant plus agréable a utiliser
in my opinion if you bought your wheel before yes otherwise if you get the wheel plus all the upgrades to make it better its not since you can get a direct drive for that price and a good one
Just ordered on Ali express, it's my last resort to revitalize the wheel, my chassis cracked. Can't wait for it to arrive. Thank you for the video :D .
The common cracking around the bearing housing can also be fixed with a dremel, a large jubilee clip (hose clamp) and some patience!
You just have to keyhole the support ribs around the bearing housing, feed the jubilee clip through and tighten down.
Completely removed all of the play in my wheel!
Did it come with an empty box or what. I want to order it but afraid 🥹
@@eldhosebabu9001u chilling but by watching the vid it sounds the same
@@EvanR56 I didn't know hose clamps were called jubilee clips! cool👍
@@oyora I believe it's the tradename of the original design made by a UK based company. It just happens to be what we call them over here!
Thanks for the upload ill be picking one up for my 923 as its insane how loud this wheel is. Every game i reduce the road feel to almost nothing to help with it, even curbs on most tracks get the thing sounding like a jackhammer.
hey have you done it and has it helped? and how difficult was it?
@pokemonboi8395 i haven't yet but I have torn the wheel apart like in the video it's not difficult just take your time with it
might i add if you are unsure how to do it take photos during each step to refer back to to help assemble back together.
the rack limiter is what makes all the noise, I need to find a replacement for mine but finding new ones are impossible. Also Ifixit show a teardown and how to recalibrate the alignment :)
keep me updated (my g923 is on its way)
The inside of the wheelbase needs to be greased after a while. When you use your wheel daily the pieces inside generate friction. That burns the grease inside of it, and believe me, from the factory it comes with way less grease than it actually needs. I have a g27 its very old nowadays and i greased it because i Bought it used and it works perfectly.
The grease can solve the wobbly sound and raspiness feel of the wheel
Which grease did you use
What parts did you grease?
What parts and what kind of grease
@@_ab. just red grease or high friction grease
Background music is really cool. Reminds me of Lips of Ashes from Porcupine Tree
Taking your comment on the overall effect on old wheels vs new, Danny one could say your wheel will now hold its "feel" characteristics as you sense it, longer, perhaps even longer than the design life of the wheel. So, as an upgrade I still believe it is a good one to have on a new wheel.
My used wheel is in right now on its way to me. When I first use it I will be looking for wear issues and will keep this mod in mind. For Aussies interested in this mod this plate is AU$74 including shipping as at June, 2024.
Awesome upgrade for $35. Could you please also try insulating the original plastic part with spray foam or sound deadening mat from car audio? I would be very interested in the results.
I just bought a new G293 set and the DF Shifter for $215 and $20, respectively. While
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@@bujfvjg7222 In case you find this interesting: th-cam.com/video/SK9qpGqBBmg/w-d-xo.html
Don't mind the dry teeth guy.
What makes the most amount of noise in these wheels is the hard stop mechanism. While Logitech has better main gearbox than Thrustmaster with their 'hybrid' approach (which is basically a glorified but really coarse gear mechanism with added belt to smooth some of the high frequency FFB effects out), Thrustmaster got one thing right. They have made a steering wheel shaft into a screw and made what essentially is a plastic nut going back and forth on it, bumping into hard stops and thus limiting travel. Much smoother, much quieter. Hell, for what what I care, I may end up buying G2x/G92x wheel and modding the crap out of it for the giggles.
So while this mod helps for sure as metal cover will dampen the noise as it's much heavier than original and much more stiff, you may want to design and 3D print a better pinion gear, perhaps with some rubber rollers on it, to eliminate plastic on plastic contact.
I was considering this the other day, not cause I need it at all more because I could so thank you for your review been looking for a second opinion on these before buying and you hit that mark for me, might be worth upgrading down the line less cause of sound more to remove potential failure points in the wheel.
I made similar things to my bro's g27 and result was same we made a 3d printed sleeves instead of plastic parts.
I also tried rc car tooth wheel for my g29 for just one motor, i think this is better solution. Almost no friction but should make a special part for motor which is with encoder.
Been using my G25 since release and still using it to this day. This is one upgrade that could be fun investing in and possibly even noise canceling foam could be an interesting customization when the wheel goes bad. I am strong believer in upgrading the old tech can give you just as much fun and pleasure in games, plus picking up on some knowledge of the internal, should i feel creating my own. Thank you testing this, very interesting and a good courtesy investment.
The difference is incredible, but I would rather do something about the gear system or the brushed motors themselves.
I wonder if you could simply add noise dampening (insulators, that are also used in cars), inside the housing, if that would dampen the sound. Sad that no one has tried this. But also having an aluminium body feels more robust than the plastic thats included.
my 10 year old g27 never did anywhere near those noises, it is silent
My G923 on the PS5 doesn't do much noise either way. Maybe it depends more on having the right FFB settings on each game?
100% from what I have read
I want to lube the big center gear and the 2 small gears behind the electric motors cause they sound a lot when the wheel is returning,sould i use lithium grease?
I have this problem with steering wheel doing these sounds and kuke scratching or something inside and i just bought it but my friend which has the wheel fot a year or more he told me just to play and it will fix itself
I think it's a good heatsink.
Watching videos on G series mods while I'm still using a reliable stock Logitech Driving Force GT. I wonder if any of this applies to it as well.
I think its good for it to be loud more immersion, i made a VIDEO on this wheel where add more GREASE on the cog mechanism it made it somewhat silent its on my utube chanel have a look and let me know what you think of the FIX
I always just assumed the loud noises were caused by bad FFB settings so I made mine to where it doesn’t do that
What settings did you use to get rid of the noise? Don't have the wheel, but wonder how much noise it would make if iI turned down the Force feedback.
@@terence77o7turn it down from what I have seen, I just ordered mine before seeing these vids about the noise so I’m already looking at fixes just in case. People say it depends on the game, but turning down the FFB settings can help
I’ve took apart a lot a lot of tech and I’m disappointed in the insides of this wheel. Same motors as an rc car lol
Buy a couple insane rc car motors to put in it??? I've thought about doing mine
I have the g920, and it's quiet it all l depends on your personal settings in game play
Hey man just wondering if you came across the metal spring which is like a half moon when you’d separated the internals from the base, mine fell out when I separated it and can’t figure out for the life of me where it came from
Do all this... or turn down vibration settings to 35.
how
@@nightfarming4205 On World Map, go to GT Menu>Options>Controllers>Vibration Functions>Vibration Strength>Set to 35
@@ethankalen763 on world map wdym? what app do i have to have
@@nightfarming4205 sorry, i was talking about GT7 game. Pretty sure its similar with any other game you play. Just reduce vibration settings.
@@ethankalen763 dont see a option on euro truck sim
I mix up a little grease and oil and lube all the moving parts inside and believe me it's more quiet than this mod!
Which type of grease did you use?
would it make more sense to upgrade my entire setup? Ive been looking at moza
I bought this mod for my G923 and it doesn't sound at all.... in fact it sounds much less than what is shown in the video 😅
it's better to go direct drive.
check the price.
I think your problem is you don't have the audio up bud.
Heres the best way to make your Logitech wheel silent: sell it and buy a direct drive wheelbase
Exactly!
I mean if you're buying new hardware, definitely. If you're running old stuff you bought years ago and aren't ready to spend hundreds on a better wheel and a strong enough base to handle the upgrade, this seems like a worthwhile stopgap modification.
@@danielisbell
Thing is, if your at a point where a little bit of rumble and squeek is effecting your lap times, your ready for better equipment. Save the money wasted on upgrading old shit and buy better. Patience costs nothing!!
Be as well just buying a car then bro. We can all act spaz....
Think better to save that $40 to save for a dd wheel:)
My 920 doesnt do that at all. Maybe later on down the line it wears out?
Same here,.my g920 only makes noise if I take my hands off the wheel and allow it to oscillate.
My G29 started making such noises a few weeks in, from using almost all the FFB range but barely avoiding clipping.
The sharper turns in my daily Nürburgring lap reach 3/4th the FFB range, crashes clip for obvious reasons.
I could lower FFB to 100% instead of the 200% to lessen it, but as long as clipping is avoided during normal driving, more FBB more better.
So I'll simply stand the noise, or take it apart and grease it if I feel the need to.
You people call the G29 loud?! It’s basically silent compared to the Driving Force GT - ha!
Does beamng support trueforce from g923?
It has trueforce option in settings but its not working
Mine doesnt make any noise
Is it me or the mod didnt make a difference
It's 'Yanny or Laurel' all over again
@@dannyleeracing 🤣
Yeah nothing this video is bs
It is you or your headphones or speakers being rubbish.
The rattly-ness is clearly less loud and harsh, about half the volume on balanced and flat studio headphones.
So not the most significant improvement, but clear-cut nonetheless and noticeable in actual use.
its the same
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Try again guys, sorry about that
cheaper way or free is "TURN DOWN THE EFFECTS to 5%!"
Mines quiet already, its probably just yours thats loud
I need a cog for my g920
Doesnt happen to mine
just dont use 200% FFB at 100% my g29 is quiet
hate the sound.. sounds like its breaking itself. so stressful and immersion breaking
BEAMNG USER LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even though everyone on the internet says the logitech wheels are loud af - my G920 never did those horrible noises. And i swapped the wheel and every possible freaking mod except this aluminium bs useless thing
sounds like it made it louder lol wth
When it opens up, it looks even cheaper inside. Thanks to some of companies making DD wheels with reasonable price.
FICOU A MESMA MERDA..KKKKKKKKKKKK
Vc fez o MOD? Ficou igual?
You waisted your money, time and risk with every bit of your heart beating while you were unscrewing everything apart. It just SOUNDS THE SAME!!!!.. 😂
turn ffb off that will not happen.
turn ffb off that will not happen.