Capt Mike Davis. Rob Hyatt--As well as the other ff's that worked that fire are honorable men. Nobody can play "Monday morning quarterback" and question their efforts that night. The HFD as a whole addressed wind driven fires and changes have been made
That’s very sad. I wish house fires weren’t so mean all the time. If I were a house fire, I wouldn’t be mean at all, I’d be like “hey man, do you wanna hang out?” and not destroy their house or kill anyone.
0:35 High wind which pretty much blows horizontally. Horizontal Ventilation anyone? 1:12 Heavy smoke and you are going inside the structure first thing and at night where the darkness makes seeing even worse? You're going to Vertically Ventilate which almost NEVER does what you think it's going to do like clear out the first floor? Wind, Horizontally Vent Properly and THAT will clear out the smoke and give you access to the burning material Fast! 1:35 Like Zombies we just did what we always do whether it accomplishes anything or not........ Windows = fast and safe ventilation. Vertical Ventilation = Unnecessarily risks the lives of fire fighters and burns up manpower to perform a task that will only help the fire burn better and turn a contents fire into a structural fire. 1:45 No water suppression at their disposal or from inside to extinguish the inferno that THEY created under their feet. Ask your mother if that's a good idea. 2:00 Do you think the massive increase of flames could have been from cutting holes in the roof which allowed gasses to mix with fresh air and get them moving? 2:30 How's the water application going? You do know that water will stop stuff from burning, right? 2:40 After you have taken the TIME to PLAY on the roof and get your Adrenaline Rush and get the house burning really good, NOW you decide to go look for the fire rooms???????? 3:00 WAIT A MINUTE!!! Didn't that Vertical Ventilation make everything wonderful on the first floor? You mean to tell me it got the gasses on the lower levels burning even better like UL proved and Common Sense and Logic dictate when you vent without water? Did ANYBODY THINK to put water on the burning material? 3:35 THIS IS BRAIN DEAD STUPIDITY NOT IN ANY WAY BRAVERY OR HEROISM! It is adults reacting rather than Thinking. Heroism before doing their JOB which is FIRST and Foremost to Protect victims and firefighters by horizontally venting the fire rooms and eliminating the Visible Threat using the fastest tools you have. Tank Water, Booster Lines and Deck Guns! 5:15 Every residential structure in this country has at least one egress window in every livable space. That means you will most likely find the fire rooms during a 360 which SHOULD be your Number One job on arrival! Find the Threat! You could have knocked down 90% of the fire through the WINDOWS! Within 2 minutes of arrival instead of PLAYING on the Roof! Instead you blindly REACT and walk into a burning building. That is Not SMART 6:00 Who is responsible for water pressure? Who is responsible for maintenance of equipment? The Vertical Venting didn't help, HUH? 7:35 This is the person you want to replace Mayor before he kills anymore of your firefighters. 7:55 This Tiny house! What would happen if this was a Colonial or an apartment house? 8:00 You have to Investigate and create tactics for something that you learned in grade school and combined with Common Sense and logic should have told you what to do BEFORE to killed firefighters? Do you Really have to wait until it hits the fan before you THINK of the obvious? 8:25 This is a CROCK of Ignorance. You need all those bullshit agencies to learn about air pressure zones? 8:35 This is what happens when FOLLOWERS become Leaders! You have to WAIT until someone tells you what to do? You can't figure out On Your Own that running headlong into a burning structure without WATER is a bad idea! "Never been schooled on wind driven fires!" Amazing! "But they are highly trained professionals! They Must know what they are doing!" Do a 360. ALWAYS DO A 360 FIRST! You can't eliminate the threat if you don't find it first! The fire is in the back. The wind is from the back. Do not open doors and windows on the Downwind or you will create a fire flow through the structure. Find the fire room, break out the windows and drench the burning material. When the flames are gone, open windows and doors on the downwind side for Horizontal Ventilation and continue extinguishment from the rear and Then the front when the threat is knocked down. Open the ceilings to check for extension in the suffocating attic. THINK! YOU FIGHT FIRES WITH THE WIND BEHIND YOU! DUH!
@@Palootski Is that the best you can do? If so, that's sad. Aren't you embarrassed? Did you notice that you were incapable of telling me where and how I am wrong? A grown up would have done that. That massive list of information and you couldn't even debate me on one thing. :-(
@@Palootski 1. "No need to debate." Because you can't otherwise you would have. 2. "Am I sure as hell am not embarrassed." That's because those who are mediocre don't care and they are surrounded by the same type of people so they Must be right even though they can't debate their tactics. 3. 'I can already tell you know everything about fire fighting." and yet you don't want to discuss my comments and learn something. Don't worry, I knew you were being childishly sarcastic. 4. "Even though I started in 1990, I wish I knew as much as you." You've been a fire player for 30 years and you are incapable of discussing firefighting tactics? What have you been doing other than sucking money out of your town? 30 years and you don't have one firefighting training video on your channel. Where do you hide them or am I right about you not caring? You are an ignorant child like 95% or the fire players in the USA and you worthless comments prove it.
Tragic. Why didn't this dept have training on this type of fire before the incident? Is there no standard training for all the departments? I hope to god you don't have to suffer a loss like this before you get training.
@@curtisachay8280 sorry I am not criticising individual departments really. It’s just that the training so often seems to be reactive rather than proactive. In the grenfell tower inquiry a similar culture has been identified as probably being at least partly to blame for the London Fire Brigade being unable to respond to a fire which didn’t behave as usual. The dangers of cladding fires were well known but this wasn’t translated into appropriate training with disastrous results. Best wishes
@@curtisachay8280 and I suppose what I am also saying is it’s all very well your department having the training after the event but are all the other fire departments getting it too? X
@@elaineblair5038 yes. Many changes have taken place that our department has implemented. Not only from this fire but from other incidences. Unfortunately it takes a tragedy for changes to be made in pretty much any profession. Stay well!
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R.I.P firefighters I never forget the day 😢
Capt Mike Davis. Rob Hyatt--As well as the other ff's that worked that fire are honorable men. Nobody can play "Monday morning quarterback" and question their efforts that night. The HFD as a whole addressed wind driven fires and changes have been made
I am beyond words. This hurts beyond words. Taken too soon.
Sorry for your loss. I would hope people that watch this video finally get it that you don’t just put water on a fire it is a science.
RIP!! We have the watch from here
That’s very sad. I wish house fires weren’t so mean all the time. If I were a house fire, I wouldn’t be mean at all, I’d be like “hey man, do you wanna hang out?” and not destroy their house or kill anyone.
HFD LYTE FORCE 26 R ENGINE 26 & TRUCK 26
0:35 High wind which pretty much blows horizontally. Horizontal Ventilation anyone?
1:12 Heavy smoke and you are going inside the structure first thing and at night where the darkness makes seeing even worse? You're going to Vertically Ventilate which almost NEVER does what you think it's going to do like clear out the first floor? Wind, Horizontally Vent Properly and THAT will clear out the smoke and give you access to the burning material Fast!
1:35 Like Zombies we just did what we always do whether it accomplishes anything or not........ Windows = fast and safe ventilation. Vertical Ventilation = Unnecessarily risks the lives of fire fighters and burns up manpower to perform a task that will only help the fire burn better and turn a contents fire into a structural fire.
1:45 No water suppression at their disposal or from inside to extinguish the inferno that THEY created under their feet. Ask your mother if that's a good idea.
2:00 Do you think the massive increase of flames could have been from cutting holes in the roof which allowed gasses to mix with fresh air and get them moving?
2:30 How's the water application going? You do know that water will stop stuff from burning, right?
2:40 After you have taken the TIME to PLAY on the roof and get your Adrenaline Rush and get the house burning really good, NOW you decide to go look for the fire rooms????????
3:00 WAIT A MINUTE!!! Didn't that Vertical Ventilation make everything wonderful on the first floor? You mean to tell me it got the gasses on the lower levels burning even better like UL proved and Common Sense and Logic dictate when you vent without water? Did ANYBODY THINK to put water on the burning material?
3:35 THIS IS BRAIN DEAD STUPIDITY NOT IN ANY WAY BRAVERY OR HEROISM! It is adults reacting rather than Thinking. Heroism before doing their JOB which is FIRST and Foremost to Protect victims and firefighters by horizontally venting the fire rooms and eliminating the Visible Threat using the fastest tools you have. Tank Water, Booster Lines and Deck Guns!
5:15 Every residential structure in this country has at least one egress window in every livable space. That means you will most likely find the fire rooms during a 360 which SHOULD be your Number One job on arrival! Find the Threat! You could have knocked down 90% of the fire through the WINDOWS! Within 2 minutes of arrival instead of PLAYING on the Roof!
Instead you blindly REACT and walk into a burning building. That is Not SMART
6:00 Who is responsible for water pressure? Who is responsible for maintenance of equipment? The Vertical Venting didn't help, HUH?
7:35 This is the person you want to replace Mayor before he kills anymore of your firefighters.
7:55 This Tiny house! What would happen if this was a Colonial or an apartment house?
8:00 You have to Investigate and create tactics for something that you learned in grade school and combined with Common Sense and logic should have told you what to do BEFORE to killed firefighters? Do you Really have to wait until it hits the fan before you THINK of the obvious?
8:25 This is a CROCK of Ignorance. You need all those bullshit agencies to learn about air pressure zones?
8:35 This is what happens when FOLLOWERS become Leaders! You have to WAIT until someone tells you what to do? You can't figure out On Your Own that running headlong into a burning structure without WATER is a bad idea! "Never been schooled on wind driven fires!" Amazing! "But they are highly trained professionals! They Must know what they are doing!"
Do a 360. ALWAYS DO A 360 FIRST! You can't eliminate the threat if you don't find it first! The fire is in the back. The wind is from the back. Do not open doors and windows on the Downwind or you will create a fire flow through the structure. Find the fire room, break out the windows and drench the burning material. When the flames are gone, open windows and doors on the downwind side for Horizontal Ventilation and continue extinguishment from the rear and Then the front when the threat is knocked down. Open the ceilings to check for extension in the suffocating attic. THINK! YOU FIGHT FIRES WITH THE WIND BEHIND YOU! DUH!
@@Palootski Is that the best you can do? If so, that's sad. Aren't you embarrassed? Did you notice that you were incapable of telling me where and how I am wrong? A grown up would have done that. That massive list of information and you couldn't even debate me on one thing. :-(
@@Palootski
1. "No need to debate." Because you can't otherwise you would have.
2. "Am I sure as hell am not embarrassed." That's because those who are mediocre don't care and they are surrounded by the same type of people so they Must be right even though they can't debate their tactics.
3. 'I can already tell you know everything about fire fighting." and yet you don't want to discuss my comments and learn something. Don't worry, I knew you were being childishly sarcastic.
4. "Even though I started in 1990, I wish I knew as much as you." You've been a fire player for 30 years and you are incapable of discussing firefighting tactics? What have you been doing other than sucking money out of your town? 30 years and you don't have one firefighting training video on your channel. Where do you hide them or am I right about you not caring?
You are an ignorant child like 95% or the fire players in the USA and you worthless comments prove it.
Condescend much?
@@happycampers6592 Make many ignorant and useless comments much?
@@JB91710 I see your posts all over youtube and you are quite an asshole. Not an ignorant or useless comment, just a fact.
Tragic. Why didn't this dept have training on this type of fire before the incident? Is there no standard training for all the departments? I hope to god you don't have to suffer a loss like this before you get training.
Sometimes all the training the world won’t stop freak events from happening. This was my crew. We were very well trained.
@@curtisachay8280 sorry I am not criticising individual departments really. It’s just that the training so often seems to be reactive rather than proactive.
In the grenfell tower inquiry a similar culture has been identified as probably being at least partly to blame for the London Fire Brigade being unable to respond to a fire which didn’t behave as usual. The dangers of cladding fires were well known but this wasn’t translated into appropriate training with disastrous results. Best wishes
@@curtisachay8280 and I suppose what I am also saying is it’s all very well your department having the training after the event but are all the other fire departments getting it too? X
@@elaineblair5038 yes. Many changes have taken place that our department has implemented. Not only from this fire but from other incidences. Unfortunately it takes a tragedy for changes to be made in pretty much any profession.
Stay well!