Exotic?? Are you kidding? The European cows or Jersey cows from America are mostly bioengineered breed.. tasked like rubber milk. The local true breed Indian cow milk tastes amazing. It’s not about quantity it’s the quality that’s important.
Indian cows milk has more health benefits and tastes good. In the UK the milk causes lot of inflammation. They are regulated the amount of antibiotics used and other medication/chemicals which willt ravel to humans through milk. But other then that their milk is not healthy and causes more problems then soultions. Indian cows should be protected on all cost.
@@manu18190 it is not criminal to talk about quality ever. In other countries as well adults dnt drink milk and children as well are not advised to give milk after a certain age as they need more solid food then liquid in breakfast. Hence it is possible to live healthy if we limit our consumption and change our habits. Grown adults anyways dnt need too much diary. Many states in India as well people are allergic to lactose hence quality should never be compromised and new ways to meet the needs of reduce the need should be looked at. Quality compromise will hurt in the future either we will loose our Indian cow breeds to foreign inorder to increase production or we will end up getting lots of health issues from such milk.which either way is not a best solution.
@@manu18190such short sighted views cause lot more damage rather than solving problems in the long run. The west is now going for A2 milk which recently came to know is produced by Indian cows naturally
The farmer, gets subsidized Electricity, free water, loans which are waived off etc, which also needs to be costed.. How is it that Amul farmers in Gujarat are more profitable???
@@MuhammadShahal-o9rthen y r u wiping out rainforests in S America for cow meat and palm oil in Asia?? Then u don’t want trees?? 😂😂 Then climate catastrophe r ur treats. Fake people and fake news/reports. These people r actually responsible for d problems all over d globe. Greed and lies.
Ur laws/policies r done by banks and monopolies in d west. They spend billions to create and change laws to ☠️ ur economy/brand. When will u wake up on d battlefield and fight for urself?? Bhagwan bhi nahi bachata jise apni swayam ki raksha karni hi nahi hai
@@MuhammadShahal-o9r Not that your children are going to be able to go to the forests. Your EV battery will never have enough range to take you there. Environmentalism is non-sense. There is enough forest space. You can always create more forests on real estate owned by the government, army land, waqf land etc. Animal farming is most essential for surviving. India needs more grazing land, not less.
This Podcast is flaundering and meandering like the cattle. Dairy industry traditionally was a integrated activity with farming, but became standalone activity due to corporatisation.Solid feedstock or concentrated feedstock was encouraged. Greed made this even worst,with harmoned,tailored feeds. Thus Milk has lost it's orinality.
I am from the USA and cannot drink milk from there because it bloats my stomach and gives me digestive problems. I was diagnosed with lactose intolerance. Only in India am I able to enjoy a glass of rich, whole milk. It’s always made me curious what the difference was.
Please don't look in terms of productivity, the cow is a soft animal, please don't look at a cow not as a unit of production . My cousin from the US doesn't buy milk at his hometown in the US, because the milk ain't Milk but just a concoction of chemicals, feeds etc. but he relishes Milk in India The international norm needn't be replicated everywhere.
Well said, please see my reply to the very first comment. I have made the same point. In India milk still tastes better. In most 'advanced' countries, milk does not taste like milk used to.
I have my concerns about how we measure agricultural productivity. If we adopt international standards blindly we may miss out in the goodness that Indian farming methods offer. For example, we have had foreign cow breeds adopted by local farmers because they gave more milk, but many of them have reverted to local breeds. Outside dairy farming, relentless push for productivity has seen widespread use of herbicides and fertilizers. We have seen soil deteriorating, but now, in the UK, there herbicide resistant weeds popping up in some farmlands. We need to relook at organic methods.
@@robinsonfrancis1498 Yes indeed, sensible points which should concern us all. Seeking quick profits may lead to decline of humanity as a whole. Sadguru Jaggi Vasudev of Isha Foundation, Coimbatore, India, undertook extensive tour of several countries talking on deteriorating soil quality, depletion of organic micro organisms and insects (pollinating bees for example). One maybe justified in feeling 'nerves' on humans' medium term future.
Distribution is the key to profitability. Processing is also unavoidable. In the West, families buy milk at the supermarket every week, store in their fridge. Average days of expiry can be as much as one month. Prices of one litre of milk had doubled, if not trebled, in most OECD countries. Large scale diaries have to have pasteurising machines, containers suited to transport to the bottling company and of course, their own cold storage!! Contrary to what the title to this video says, Indian milk is tastier and less processed than milk available in 'developed' counties!! A lot of milk in the developed countries taste plasticky!! In India, milk tastes like milk, imo.
@@krisi7562 Dairy at large scale is almost a Loss making sector. Mainly due to Low cost of Milk and Kind of good nutritional feed a Cow needs. This is main reason our productivity is low. Bcoz most farmers who keep 1-2 -3 cows they are fed some Bhusaa/Hey , some times greens(not all the time), his Home food wastage. These cows look quite thin & produce limited amount of milk . From that milk farmers drink some for own family and sell half of it to collection centres at cost of 50 rs/liter. with proper feed and west level of Productivity farmer needs to sell at 100rs/litre
@@GuzzarAwan I agree. I have seen it in my circle during my village stays. First supply is for the family. If any left over, then maybe sell to neighbours. But feed for the cow consisted of what the families gathered 'here and there', surprisingly, it was just enough to get about three litres of milk from 'Desi' cows. These families never spent any money on feeds or on Vets.
1. Refrigeration infrastructure should be set up by the Government, which can then be rented to Farmers, or Farm Co-ops. 2. Cold chain logistics from first mile to last could be subsidized for private investment. 3. Dairy Feed education should be formalized for all Dairy Farmers. 4. Local dairy produce is best consumed locally and would probably even be more cost effective. 5. Value addition should be the norm, not an exception to the business of dairy. Small farmers need support for this know-how. 6. Certification courses, and auditing structures should be formalized for assuring product quality. 7. Export focus will need a lot of structural changes up and down the chain Just some things to add to what the expert has brought into focus here. Brahmin cows are very famous and resilient even in Australia where this Indian breed can withstand the hot Australian desert clime.
Ever listen to Hindi speakers? “Ok” is “Theek hai” in Hindi. It’s a habit from speaking Hindi. Don’t know his mother language but maybe it’s the same effect?
Are you aware that dairy faming is unprofitable and farms have closed down all across the OECD, it's hence heavily subsidized in both Europe (through CAP hence the high import barriers) and in Canada and indirectly in the US by the USDA. Milk and it's by products are crucial elements in other allied products within the food and Beverage sector. I agree there needs to be an improvement in quality and better care of livestock and education and extension services but not in the removal of subsidy. In a way the successful dairies (Akshayakalpa) are doing exactly what the government has neglected, greater emphasis on extension services and education of farmers. Successive governments since the 1990's have somewhat ignored rural education in general and investment in agriculture in particular.
Good points. Indian journalists are not touching upon the facts affecting OECD countries. Indian media is keen to present a very positive picture of OECD countries but on the other hand, keen to present a negative picture of India!! The average Indian journalist has a neo-colonial mind!!
Highly informative podcast. Look forward to more. One thing I am also interested to know is how do farmers sustain cows that our past their birthing age.
Varadarajan Excellent interview. Very important questions were asked and equally good replies were obtained. I hope to see such intellectually simulating interviews more and more.
It's ok.per capita consumption is very low due to low buying power.cattle s main products r dung n urine for natural agriculture n soil health.milk is a byproduct.
@ anuragg-p8k Ignorants laugh like you to in disbelief and to discredit. There are data out there. Go and check. Read reports on total count in California raw milk and raw milk in India.
Why the government is suppressing the prices ?. If the farmers are oppresed and agriculture is forced to remain unprofitable , how it will be sustained ? Government is favouring the public at the cost of hardworking farmers .
If farming becomes profitable. The number of people won't comes out of villages. The country won't get cheap labour. The farming itself is a low value activity. It doesn't increase gdp. It can be done by anyone
If farming is not profitable how are the Punjab farmers roaming around in Mercedes Benz’s? Even without 50% tax, if at current prices, farming is unsustainable then something is very very wrong. Farming is not a low value activity - it adds to GDP and it cannot be done by just anyone - LOL - can “anyone” buy farmland in India? Nope & that itself means not anyone can do it.
Why are farmers getting subsidized water, electricity, etc? If farmers want profitability then they have to compete fairly. They can't ask for subsidizing their losses to the common man and taxpayer and capitalizing all the profits.
Amul is only a trader doing the processing and marketing . Amul is collecting milk from farmers and therefore all losses are pushed to the poor farmers .
It's not true farmers in Gujarat are making a lot of profit by selling milk whereas in other states where there is no cooperative network like amul are facing hardship in selling milk.
Nonsense there are milk societies in kerala that take individual supliera milk from each wards in a panchayat and brings to a collective like milma , its a states responsibility to create such a structure where exess milk is converted to milk powder, milk products which are more popular
22:03 to 25:30 is very eye-opening. Farmers (or farm labourers in the case of rich farmers) are give us dairy at personal loss! If we were to apply labour costs and other items like an accountant, we would have to pay farmers a lot more. Effectively, cheese, butter and sweets made from milk are luxury goods! So much for "cow is mother" and "Jai Kisaan". I think the subsidies paid by the taxpayer are fair. Nothing to complain.
The old cows are turned out on the streets to get run over by traffic and the bulls are subjected to inhumane barbaric practices like the Tamil Jalli Kattu going on now.
My personnel experience, recently I flew to the US, my luggage was ripped, not the bag but the goods I was carrying from India( pulses, grains, masala packets, sweets ) Then I learnt that you are not allowed to carry many many things from India to US. They are more strict about India.
I’d rather drink the milk supplied by my local farmer where I live in India I have moved from Uk and I can tell you this the milk in Uk was like water here the milk has a layer of butter on top not seen that happen in Uk and we make our own Ghee ….not adulterated milk …..it’s good depending on who supplies and where you have it from.
Why am I sharing a link to a long interview of an expert in dairy science here? It is an eye opener and an example of why India needs to improve farming practices, bring in advanced technology, private industry and stop unnecessary and unhelpful political intervention. The expert explains why our cows produce a lot less milk than elsewhere in the world. What is the true cost of producing milk, how the price structure is distorted by subsidies. Why the quality of milk in India is so bad that the world does not want to drink Indian milk ! He does offer solutions to improve quality of milk, by better selection, better animal feed, better coperative structure. Farming will not improve unless it is helped by scientists, technologies, and new financial system. Government can not do that. Private industry needs to come in. But some farmers are scared that entry of private industry, capital, know how and expertise will only mean that the farmers will be exploited, and they still resist reforms in farming, and oppose the farm reforms. This has led to an impasse. There has to be a fruitful and mutually beneficial alliance between the industry and farming. When will it happen? This is true not just in the dairy sector, but in other sectors too.
😅 Replace with “theek hai” in Hindi-you’ll hear it differently if you listen to Hindi all day 😅 I don’t know his mother language but it’s certainly a bad habit.
I am compelled to think a lot of negativity in the comment section is from competition. I am not surprised Indian milk is not accepted abroad because India itself does not allow free import of dairy products from China or the US to protect the domestic dairy market.
Decade by decade, the taste of foods and drinks is becoming tasteless because we are blindlessly following westerns norms or try to copy them. Our fruits, vegetables, grains everything are loosing originality and are becoming more and more genetically modified. I agree with some concerns raised in this podcast but we should not copy and paste from others for our problems but to fix our problems in such a way that it will maintain its taste and quality. Desi cows milk is best in terms of quality and taste( personal experience) if cattle are taking proper meal. Only lacks in quantiy. Personally I don't believe in most of the health or trade related reports published by US or EU. They are capable to make Covid19 innocent if they are somehow beneficiary by publishing numbers of reports through their government agencies, universities, NGOs, private institutions etc. The tactics which were used by EU in last 2 decade make me believe that are very business minded and will take any measures to get profit.
How you expect the labour cost to be absorbed ? The farmer is forced to do charity work ? Instead the government shall raise the minimum support price and make the farming feasible to be operated .
Then farmers should give up free subsidies and loans or whatever. They can't expect to subsidize all their losses and keeping all the profits while the middle-class taxpayer suffers the entire burden.
The problem iis that we are. Bottom line oriented. The value of indigenous cow its milk, curd, ghee, gaumutra,, its dung for manure and cooking its benefit for daily consumption etc. Is not. Being oiffset by medical bills.
It was mr. Varghese Kurian .See the way he casually mentions Kurian . "Kurian joined Amul" as if it was already a big venture. Shri kurian and Shri . Tribhuvanbhai along with lot of ordinary farmers in Kheda district mafe it happen.
They don't know to respect Mr Varghese Kurien because he was a Christian from Kerala state who gave away his luxurious life that he could have in America to serve the poor farmers in Gujarat and in India.
Most Indians are lactose intolerant. Most of the constipation, and other bowel problems are caused by milk in Indians. This is because both the proteins in milk - casein and lactose are difficult to breakdown.
@@prasannabhat8631 half baked knowledge u have - lactose intolerant people r not 100% intolerant - they have certain % of lactose mal absorption - if people r lactose intolerant babies dont grow into adults - in my village in andhra im yet to find someone lacose intolerant - throughout my life aged 33 i have a classmate who doesnt eat curd or drink milk - rest all consume milk...
cruel to consume milk ?? cows r very calm natured animals and give milk willingly. there is nothing wrong when some amount of milk is taken from them when u provide shelter, protection to it and its calf... eating fruit is cruel to the seed, eat nuts is crule to nuts, can we stop eating nuts ?? if u dont consume nut - it may become tree...
Deapite asking the question, there was no response or atleast not a clear one. Is Rs. 35 the cost of milk with laboir cost? If it is then why say the farmer is at a loss (he should be at cost)? What about sale of calf? What about the manure cost recovered?
35 is the bare minimum cost price, as he says. There is no profit margin if you include labour. Cow dung is not high quality manure by itself. Needs a lot of further labour to make it useful.
@@ThePlateIndia when you don’t have honest leadership in agriculture then what do you expect, you think deve Gowda children will be the right leaders are they honest I’m only giving you an example all the leaders you have are just mediocre without vision you see who are claiming the agriculture sector leaders devegowda’s sharad pawars Khila’s yadav or hooda or the Reddys or badals and any number who claim to be representing rural folks you require visionary and honest type of yogi Adityanath or fancies who are honest and visionary such type of leadership in this sector
Exotic?? Are you kidding? The European cows or Jersey cows from America are mostly bioengineered breed.. tasked like rubber milk. The local true breed Indian cow milk tastes amazing. It’s not about quantity it’s the quality that’s important.
Indian cows milk has more health benefits and tastes good. In the UK the milk causes lot of inflammation. They are regulated the amount of antibiotics used and other medication/chemicals which willt ravel to humans through milk. But other then that their milk is not healthy and causes more problems then soultions. Indian cows should be protected on all cost.
In a country of 1.5 billion people it’s criminal to talk about quality and not quantity. First feed everyone and then talk about about quality
@@manu18190 it is not criminal to talk about quality ever. In other countries as well adults dnt drink milk and children as well are not advised to give milk after a certain age as they need more solid food then liquid in breakfast. Hence it is possible to live healthy if we limit our consumption and change our habits. Grown adults anyways dnt need too much diary. Many states in India as well people are allergic to lactose hence quality should never be compromised and new ways to meet the needs of reduce the need should be looked at. Quality compromise will hurt in the future either we will loose our Indian cow breeds to foreign inorder to increase production or we will end up getting lots of health issues from such milk.which either way is not a best solution.
@@manu18190such short sighted views cause lot more damage rather than solving problems in the long run. The west is now going for A2 milk which recently came to know is produced by Indian cows naturally
The farmer, gets subsidized Electricity, free water, loans which are waived off etc, which also needs to be costed.. How is it that Amul farmers in Gujarat are more profitable???
Aren't you getting subsidized farm produce.
Find out the cost farmers are getting from dairy companies per litre of milk.
In Karnataka they are getting 27 Rs per litre
Senthil, without subsidy farming is not viable anywhere in the world, not only in India, even developed world farming is heavily subsidised.
Dude ,you don't know shit!!
We had 60 cows in 70s but have none today. Forest laws have made the farmers more poorer
So that your children will get to see the forest rather than hearing stories about it.. 🤷
@@MuhammadShahal-o9rthen y r u wiping out rainforests in S America for cow meat and palm oil in Asia?? Then u don’t want trees?? 😂😂
Then climate catastrophe r ur treats.
Fake people and fake news/reports. These people r actually responsible for d problems all over d globe. Greed and lies.
Ur laws/policies r done by banks and monopolies in d west. They spend billions to create and change laws to ☠️ ur economy/brand.
When will u wake up on d battlefield and fight for urself?? Bhagwan bhi nahi bachata jise apni swayam ki raksha karni hi nahi hai
@@MuhammadShahal-o9r Not that your children are going to be able to go to the forests. Your EV battery will never have enough range to take you there.
Environmentalism is non-sense. There is enough forest space. You can always create more forests on real estate owned by the government, army land, waqf land etc. Animal farming is most essential for surviving. India needs more grazing land, not less.
Animal agriculture is the biggest contributor of deforestation
This Podcast is flaundering and meandering like the cattle.
Dairy industry traditionally was a integrated activity with farming, but became standalone activity due to corporatisation.Solid feedstock or concentrated feedstock was encouraged. Greed made this even worst,with harmoned,tailored feeds.
Thus Milk has lost it's orinality.
I am from the USA and cannot drink milk from there because it bloats my stomach and gives me digestive problems. I was diagnosed with lactose intolerance. Only in India am I able to enjoy a glass of rich, whole milk. It’s always made me curious what the difference was.
Please don't look in terms of productivity, the cow is a soft animal, please don't look at a cow not as a unit of production .
My cousin from the US doesn't buy milk at his hometown in the US, because the milk ain't Milk but just a concoction of chemicals, feeds etc. but he relishes Milk in India
The international norm needn't be replicated everywhere.
Well said, please see my reply to the very first comment. I have made the same point. In India milk still tastes better. In most 'advanced' countries, milk does not taste like milk used to.
Cow is a vote animal, cow is EVM, cow gobar moot sewan is great, milk and beef is for saudi arabia
Farmers are more important than cows. Keep your sentiments to yourself.
I have my concerns about how we measure agricultural productivity. If we adopt international standards blindly we may miss out in the goodness that Indian farming methods offer. For example, we have had foreign cow breeds adopted by local farmers because they gave more milk, but many of them have reverted to local breeds. Outside dairy farming, relentless push for productivity has seen widespread use of herbicides and fertilizers. We have seen soil deteriorating, but now, in the UK, there herbicide resistant weeds popping up in some farmlands. We need to relook at organic methods.
@@robinsonfrancis1498 Yes indeed, sensible points which should concern us all. Seeking quick profits may lead to decline of humanity as a whole. Sadguru Jaggi Vasudev of Isha Foundation, Coimbatore, India, undertook extensive tour of several countries talking on deteriorating soil quality, depletion of organic micro organisms and insects (pollinating bees for example). One maybe justified in feeling 'nerves' on humans' medium term future.
I was rearing 17 animals .
Feeding the animals was being more expensive than the revenue .
Distribution is the key to profitability. Processing is also unavoidable. In the West, families buy milk at the supermarket every week, store in their fridge. Average days of expiry can be as much as one month. Prices of one litre of milk had doubled, if not trebled, in most OECD countries. Large scale diaries have to have pasteurising machines, containers suited to transport to the bottling company and of course, their own cold storage!!
Contrary to what the title to this video says, Indian milk is tastier and less processed than milk available in 'developed' counties!! A lot of milk in the developed countries taste plasticky!! In India, milk tastes like milk, imo.
@@krisi7562 Dairy at large scale is almost a Loss making sector. Mainly due to Low cost of Milk and Kind of good nutritional feed a Cow needs.
This is main reason our productivity is low. Bcoz most farmers who keep 1-2 -3 cows they are fed some Bhusaa/Hey , some times greens(not all the time), his Home food wastage. These cows look quite thin & produce limited amount of milk . From that milk farmers drink some for own family and sell half of it to collection centres at cost of 50 rs/liter.
with proper feed and west level of Productivity farmer needs to sell at 100rs/litre
@@GuzzarAwan you have no idea about the pricing of cow's milk then if you think farmers sell their milk for 50 rs/l. It's barely 30 per/l.
Breed humans......in India same as rat breeding
@@GuzzarAwan I agree. I have seen it in my circle during my village stays. First supply is for the family. If any left over, then maybe sell to neighbours. But feed for the cow consisted of what the families gathered 'here and there', surprisingly, it was just enough to get about three litres of milk from 'Desi' cows. These families never spent any money on feeds or on Vets.
How are the cows being treated? Deplorably. We need massive upgrades in the dairy sector with cows being taken care of too.
Really wish that the interviewer let the guest talk, instead of interrupting him all the time.
1. Refrigeration infrastructure should be set up by the Government, which can then be rented to Farmers, or Farm Co-ops.
2. Cold chain logistics from first mile to last could be subsidized for private investment.
3. Dairy Feed education should be formalized for all Dairy Farmers.
4. Local dairy produce is best consumed locally and would probably even be more cost effective.
5. Value addition should be the norm, not an exception to the business of dairy. Small farmers need support for this know-how.
6. Certification courses, and auditing structures should be formalized for assuring product quality.
7. Export focus will need a lot of structural changes up and down the chain
Just some things to add to what the expert has brought into focus here.
Brahmin cows are very famous and resilient even in Australia where this Indian breed can withstand the hot Australian desert clime.
govt can't do it. private players can only do it
Brahmin cows 😂
Why this CEO is repeating OK 1000 times ???
Ever listen to Hindi speakers? “Ok” is “Theek hai” in Hindi. It’s a habit from speaking Hindi. Don’t know his mother language but maybe it’s the same effect?
Lovely discussion between 2 visionaries
Are you aware that dairy faming is unprofitable and farms have closed down all across the OECD, it's hence heavily subsidized in both Europe (through CAP hence the high import barriers) and in Canada and indirectly in the US by the USDA. Milk and it's by products are crucial elements in other allied products within the food and Beverage sector. I agree there needs to be an improvement in quality and better care of livestock and education and extension services but not in the removal of subsidy. In a way the successful dairies (Akshayakalpa) are doing exactly what the government has neglected, greater emphasis on extension services and education of farmers. Successive governments since the 1990's have somewhat ignored rural education in general and investment in agriculture in particular.
Good points. Indian journalists are not touching upon the facts affecting OECD countries. Indian media is keen to present a very positive picture of OECD countries but on the other hand, keen to present a negative picture of India!! The average Indian journalist has a neo-colonial mind!!
What a treatise of an episode !👍
This episode should be Studied, and not merely listened to.
Thank you! At The Plate we focus on rigour!
Highly informative podcast. Look forward to more. One thing I am also interested to know is how do farmers sustain cows that our past their birthing age.
They don’t. I heard they are the abandoned cows in the streets who are starving and eating garbage.
Varadarajan
Excellent interview.
Very important questions were asked and equally good replies were obtained.
I hope to see such intellectually simulating interviews more and more.
Thank you very much. We'll certainly offer more such content that helps to understand India from farm to plate!
It's ok.per capita consumption is very low due to low buying power.cattle s main products r dung n urine for natural agriculture n soil health.milk is a byproduct.
Why don't you eat the dung?
Very Interesting Discussion. How does Climate Change impact the future productivity of milk in India?
Pasteurized milk in India has often higher microbial count than the raw milk in the USA.
Who told u this 😂
We don't want the milk.
@ anuragg-p8k Ignorants laugh like you to in disbelief and to discredit. There are data out there. Go and check. Read reports on total count in California raw milk and raw milk in India.
Very informative thanks
Why the government is suppressing the prices ?.
If the farmers are oppresed and agriculture is forced to remain unprofitable , how it will be sustained ?
Government is favouring the public at the cost of hardworking farmers .
If farming becomes profitable. The number of people won't comes out of villages. The country won't get cheap labour. The farming itself is a low value activity. It doesn't increase gdp. It can be done by anyone
👍
If farming is not profitable how are the Punjab farmers roaming around in Mercedes Benz’s? Even without 50% tax, if at current prices, farming is unsustainable then something is very very wrong. Farming is not a low value activity - it adds to GDP and it cannot be done by just anyone - LOL - can “anyone” buy farmland in India? Nope & that itself means not anyone can do it.
@@kamathmanoj punjab farmers are fraud. They take huge loans and they dont pay it. Thats how they buy their mercs
Why are farmers getting subsidized water, electricity, etc?
If farmers want profitability then they have to compete fairly.
They can't ask for subsidizing their losses to the common man and taxpayer and capitalizing all the profits.
Amul is only a trader doing the processing and marketing .
Amul is collecting milk from farmers and therefore all losses are pushed to the poor farmers .
It's not true farmers in Gujarat are making a lot of profit by selling milk whereas in other states where there is no cooperative network like amul are facing hardship in selling milk.
Nonsense. If farmers do not earn, Amul would have closed long ago
@@lethaldose50 gujjus sell fake milk adulterated with with foam and soap, Ive seen them use injections
Nonsense there are milk societies in kerala that take individual supliera milk from each wards in a panchayat and brings to a collective like milma , its a states responsibility to create such a structure where exess milk is converted to milk powder, milk products which are more popular
Excellent discussion. An eye opener about the realities of diary farming in India.
22:03 to 25:30 is very eye-opening. Farmers (or farm labourers in the case of rich farmers) are give us dairy at personal loss! If we were to apply labour costs and other items like an accountant, we would have to pay farmers a lot more. Effectively, cheese, butter and sweets made from milk are luxury goods! So much for "cow is mother" and "Jai Kisaan".
I think the subsidies paid by the taxpayer are fair. Nothing to complain.
Around 35:00 pricing is a result of branding and product innovation, quality is the same as source is the same!
39:40 No education, poor science, poor quality control. Education, really, is the greatest weakness of India.
What happens to old cows who cannot produce milk or male calf who are not economically viable?
The old cows are turned out on the streets to get run over by traffic and the bulls are subjected to inhumane barbaric practices like the Tamil Jalli Kattu going on now.
They are the abandoned, starving cows and bulls wandering in the streets eating plastic and garbage.
@@superpoodleheadand why is that so ? Do you consume Dairy then your are also part of the problem.
My personnel experience, recently I flew to the US, my luggage was ripped, not the bag but the goods I was carrying from India( pulses, grains, masala packets, sweets ) Then I learnt that you are not allowed to carry many many things from India to US. They are more strict about India.
When you are addressing an indian audience at least come up with an indian equivalent of "Robbing Paul to pay Peter"
I’d rather drink the milk supplied by my local farmer where I live in India I have moved from Uk and I can tell you this the milk in Uk was like water here the milk has a layer of butter on top not seen that happen in Uk and we make our own Ghee ….not adulterated milk …..it’s good depending on who supplies and where you have it from.
Okay
😅😅😅
Why am I sharing a link to a long interview of an expert in dairy science here?
It is an eye opener and an example of why India needs to improve farming practices, bring in advanced technology, private industry and stop unnecessary and unhelpful political intervention.
The expert explains why our cows produce a lot less milk than elsewhere in the world. What is the true cost of producing milk, how the price structure is distorted by subsidies. Why the quality of milk in India is so bad that the world does not want to drink Indian milk !
He does offer solutions to improve quality of milk, by better selection, better animal feed, better coperative structure.
Farming will not improve unless it is helped by scientists, technologies, and new financial system.
Government can not do that. Private industry needs to come in. But some farmers are scared that entry of private industry, capital, know how and expertise will only mean that the farmers will be exploited, and they still resist reforms in farming, and oppose the farm reforms.
This has led to an impasse.
There has to be a fruitful and mutually beneficial alliance between the industry and farming.
When will it happen?
This is true not just in the dairy sector, but in other sectors too.
Most cows in India are fed grass/ hay, which is filled with pesticides and insecticides. Government should look into this.
The content may be deeply insightful. However, hearing "ok" in every sentence is incredibly distracting. The guest needs to learn to speak better.
Ok
😅 Replace with “theek hai” in Hindi-you’ll hear it differently if you listen to Hindi all day 😅 I don’t know his mother language but it’s certainly a bad habit.
I am compelled to think a lot of negativity in the comment section is from competition. I am not surprised Indian milk is not accepted abroad because India itself does not allow free import of dairy products from China or the US to protect the domestic dairy market.
Sorry but we don't need to sell 1%milk for 5 dollars
Why you keep saying okay????
It is F so frustrating 😡🤬
Decade by decade, the taste of foods and drinks is becoming tasteless because we are blindlessly following westerns norms or try to copy them. Our fruits, vegetables, grains everything are loosing originality and are becoming more and more genetically modified. I agree with some concerns raised in this podcast but we should not copy and paste from others for our problems but to fix our problems in such a way that it will maintain its taste and quality.
Desi cows milk is best in terms of quality and taste( personal experience) if cattle are taking proper meal. Only lacks in quantiy.
Personally I don't believe in most of the health or trade related reports published by US or EU. They are capable to make Covid19 innocent if they are somehow beneficiary by publishing numbers of reports through their government agencies, universities, NGOs, private institutions etc.
The tactics which were used by EU in last 2 decade make me believe that are very business minded and will take any measures to get profit.
Allow Australian/New Zealand milk access to Indian Market?????
Why?
NO,
How you expect the labour cost to be absorbed ?
The farmer is forced to do charity work ?
Instead the government shall raise the minimum support price and make the farming feasible to be operated .
Then farmers should give up free subsidies and loans or whatever.
They can't expect to subsidize all their losses and keeping all the profits while the middle-class taxpayer suffers the entire burden.
The problem iis that we are. Bottom line oriented. The value of indigenous cow its milk, curd, ghee, gaumutra,, its dung for manure and cooking its benefit for daily consumption etc. Is not. Being oiffset by medical bills.
Cross breeding is not the solution. If we feed and take care of the indigenous breed we can get more milk.
It was mr. Varghese Kurian .See the way he casually mentions Kurian . "Kurian joined Amul" as if it was already a big venture. Shri kurian and Shri . Tribhuvanbhai along with lot of ordinary farmers in Kheda district mafe it happen.
They don't know to respect Mr Varghese Kurien because he was a Christian from Kerala state who gave away his luxurious life that he could have in America to serve the poor farmers in Gujarat and in India.
This ok again and again is very irritating
He has to control this habit
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Is it true South Indians are lactose intolerant?
It is probably 50-50 of the population. Dairy consumption is not as wide spread as North Indians [Mostly Hindi belt I think]
I am a South Indian who is having lactose intolerance
Most Indians are lactose intolerant. Most of the constipation, and other bowel problems are caused by milk in Indians. This is because both the proteins in milk - casein and lactose are difficult to breakdown.
Everyone except white population has lactose intolerance. But some have adopted even in those populations. Punjabis for ex r fine with it.
@@prasannabhat8631 half baked knowledge u have - lactose intolerant people r not 100% intolerant - they have certain % of lactose mal absorption - if people r lactose intolerant babies dont grow into adults - in my village in andhra im yet to find someone lacose intolerant - throughout my life aged 33 i have a classmate who doesnt eat curd or drink milk - rest all consume milk...
😅😅 What is the title and what topics are discussed?. Useless topics and useless information.
topic and discussion is quite useful and the man is knowledgeful..
Not transparent enough to tell the specifics of the cost and selling price hence not trustworthy to me!
Let's don't run after foreign certificates. We should research and verify. We need cows as it would help earn money.
he can launch aadivasi milk :P
Respect people and don’t see his looks - learn something from him on his dedication to our country as he did. It stay in USA but working in India
Don't know what dumb world you have in mind.
I thought hoste is nityanand Mishra.... 😅 go se for yourself
Great profile pic
And what about CHEESE!!!!??? 🧀
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Diary is cruel to cows! Can we all become vegans ?
cruel to consume milk ?? cows r very calm natured animals and give milk willingly. there is nothing wrong when some amount of milk is taken from them when u provide shelter, protection to it and its calf... eating fruit is cruel to the seed, eat nuts is crule to nuts, can we stop eating nuts ?? if u dont consume nut - it may become tree...
Dear Diary!
Ok Ok everything YOOOKEEEYYYY. I am OK boy......go back to Amearika.
Deapite asking the question, there was no response or atleast not a clear one. Is Rs. 35 the cost of milk with laboir cost? If it is then why say the farmer is at a loss (he should be at cost)? What about sale of calf? What about the manure cost recovered?
35 is the bare minimum cost price, as he says. There is no profit margin if you include labour. Cow dung is not high quality manure by itself. Needs a lot of further labour to make it useful.
@@ThePlateIndia when you don’t have honest leadership in agriculture then what do you expect, you think deve Gowda children will be the right leaders are they honest I’m only giving you an example all the leaders you have are just mediocre without vision you see who are claiming the agriculture sector leaders devegowda’s sharad pawars Khila’s yadav or hooda or the Reddys or badals and any number who claim to be representing rural folks you require visionary and honest type of yogi Adityanath or fancies who are honest and visionary such type of leadership in this sector
Hindi bolta tau to chaar log kuch samajhte
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Yes. I agree. Ok.
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