It's really frustrating how on the consumer side, IMAX as a term has basically been degraded to mean "big screen with loud blown out audio" rather than the full experience. You can find "IMAX" anywhere but most of the theatres/projections suck in comparison to the real deal. I've seen 3 Nolan films in 65mm IMAX and you always have to explain "no no, this is *actual* IMAX"
I agree I hate how they lie to the consumers like this. Not just screen size but actual movies shot with 18k cameras vs movies digitally scaled to fit Imax formats.
@@zoulzopan I've seen multiple comments from you talking about "18k". What are you referring to? There's no 18k cameras and no 18k projectors. It seems like you read the theoretical digital equivalent resolution to 15-70 film, which is completely theoretical and is not based in any kind of fact, and took that to mean they shoot or project in 18k. Even on a 70mm projector you're viewing a positive print out from a digital scan of the original negative for anything made recently.
You're right that even films which get 15/70 distributions are usually printed from digital. But Oppenheimer's 15/70 release was an exception as they printed it though a strictly photochemical process
@@ojtheaviator1795 Most of the film was finished entirely photochemically, but to say "strictly" is verifiably false. The film has a number of VFX shots that use digital compositing, so would have had to have been scanned and then printed.
IMAX is the supreme modern format, it might have it's drawbacks like the size of the camera and how loud it is, and how expensive it is to shoot and process IMAX film but it sure pays off in the end with a supremely crisper pristine image over any other format, this is something that other formats cannot do and anything you watch from home will not give you this experience. It's kinda like a when movies of the 60's and 70's were shot on Super Panavision 70mm first only shown in certain cinemas in a super widescreen format in which television of the time couldn't give.
I agree. Actually, it's because television could accommodate a 4:3 ratio that films in the 50s started being made in 1.66, 1.85 and wider. Now's the same, always cinema Vs TV
@@antoinepetrov Yes definitely, at that time they were starting to show widescreen movies on to the 4:3 Square TV's of the time so to combat this this format was to entice audiences to see these super widescreen 70mm movies only in theaters.
The issue is the consumers, theyre not convinced that paying a premium to see these movies is worth it I disagree though. Coupled with the fact that so many movies and cinemas lie to their audience about what constitute as a true "Imax" most ppl dont realize that true Imax screens are rare and only exists in certain locations and movies that are shot in true 18k Imax resolution vs digital upscaled Imax which sucks.
@@zoulzopan Yes definitely, movies that are shot on the IMAX format and which is also screened in IMAX theaters need to be truly IMAX certified so consumer's know what they're watching is truly IMAX in all it's glory.
99.99% of the population just doesn't give a damn about quality, sadly, eventually going the way of the dodo. Maybe one day we'll have the ability to replicate the experience at home. I suspect people would be willing to pay a handsome premium on proper IMAX versions of particular releases - if it's even physically possible.
After seeing a so called IMAX projection in a multiplex near L.A. I did understand why many audience doesn’t see a difference between “normal” 4K and this kind of “IMAX”: Because there was no! Even the sound was far away from what DOLBY Atmos delivers. So it makes a big difference WHERE you attend an IMAX movie.
you didn't see a real imax projection. Imax with laser is only 4k resolution and the screen is much smaller. There are only 3 theaters in LA with Imax 70mm projectors. I saw it at two of those venues.
Wow so I'm not crazy then 😂. I just saw interstellar in imax and I wasn't really blown away, yeah itnlooked good and sounded good but idk people made it seem like it was an experience. I guess I didn't even see the real thing 😂
I absolutely love imax I don’t understand why so many people don’t seem to care about their experince and settle for streaming movies when it’s just not the point at all. Reduces everything to basic plot with no sensory and visual perception and immersion the way a big big screen and imax can provide to really give that all-encompassing experince of “being inside” the movie not just sitting outside it watching from afar . Totally changes the entire experience
Spoken like a person that doesn’t have a surround sound. I’m willing to bet the system in my living room is more immersive than the theater considering a gunman could run in the theater at any moment, meanwhile my front door is bolted shut. I can freely ignore my surroundings.
@7:18 I met a guy that I can still call my buddy, that is still today an IMAX Projection Tech in Jordans Furniture IMAX Reading, MA.. He did some part time work for my IT company when I was shorthanded. I was wowed by his work there. Him handling a 600lb reel of film really amazed me
Just looking at that shot of the mountains in that one documentary you showed, you can see how utterly amazing the format looks. We’ve gotten somewhat close to emulating the 15/70 format digitally (most notably on Dune and its second Part which went so far as getting a 70mm print), but we’re still a long ways off from ever truly matching the 70mm IMAX look to an exact. There is truly nothing like it.
What is the cmos sensor size of the digital imax approved cameras like the Sony Venice, Arris and Reds in comparison to the MSM 9802? Do they all use medium format sensors of the same size?
The best imax i experienced was Oppenheimer in 4k dual laser Imax projection in New Delhi. It was phenomenal. Hopefully i get to see a real IMAX someday 😢
I saw Oppenheimer at a local theater that only has 2K imax because a friend was in town. It was good; but then I made a road trip to the full imax, and man, was it so much better. I feel ruined to anything else now.
Great video! I'm curious, where do you find these 1.43:1 clips? Are they just clips from TH-cam or is there some way to obtain true Imax ratio versions of these films?! I really wish it to be true...
It’s a bit frustrating that in Switzerland you can most of the times see the iMax feature films only with subtitles in 2 languages and therefore you cannot experience the film in the original language without subtitles. Which is very weird, since iMax is supposed to be more immersive, but it’s definitely not immersive if you always have 2 lines of subtitle on it 😭
1570 IMAX is amazing however there are only so many auditoriums in the world. For some reasin my state happens to have one. Dolby is far more accessible and is an incredivle experience also.
But why can’t digital imax projectors show the full 1.43 picture? Even if it means losing a little resolution, wouldn’t filmmakers want more audiences to see the frame/composition as it was intended? With the way it is now, filmmakers gotta consider the 1.43 frame that’s only gonna play on a couple dozen screens, the 1.9 frame for the digital of the IMAX screens, and the 1.77 or 2.35 frame for regular screens. For the budget that IMAX adds to the production, it doesn’t seem worth it if barely anyone is gonna see all that extra screen real estate the filmmakers paid so much for.
That's the trouble-I don't object to digital projection or filmmaking, but forget how niche IMAX is as a filmmaking tool; you can hardly find an IMAX exhibition house that gives you 15/70. I don't know if that's a branding sellout, a short-term patch to fund these better technologies, or what. I don't know what gets people into theaters, but a big-ass wall with a movie on it...might.
Yields - as chip sizes get bigger, the chance of the chip having defects goes up. We can only make chips so big before there's just about a 100% chance of there being unacceptable defects.
Well all quiet correct except for some details... The shallow depth of field achieved in Imax shot is relative and can be obtained in many other ways: anamorphics, shooting wide open with fast lenses and so on... I guess Imax is a great medium for film but a bit overrated and absolutely not democratic... And there are some specs that nobody seems to be involved or interested in: for example Imax format has been conceived in order to be projected at 75 IRE of maximum level - being thought to be on theaters -. Definitely it s not for any pixel screen whatsoever. So scanning it to be digitalized can also be a cons. Nevertheless I d be not so sure that its DR in terms of useable stops could match the 17 stops of Alexa35... All considered I guess there is too hype around this format.
8:42 I think digital IMAX with 6k to 12k resolution with 3:2 aspect ratio or 16 : 10 aspect ratio Should be developed Film IMAX is not practical Digital IMAX 💯💯
Imax is so overrated and films that switch between aspect ratios are so annoying to watch. That 4/3 ratio just doesn't look good for action films and the only real improvement for me has been the sound.
The voice of the commentator is difficult 😮 should work in his intonation and avoid this unnecessary high tones .... sorry for this critics, but its hard to listen ....
I noticed this as well. The video content is excellent as usual, but His prior narrations had a much more natural tone and cadence. I hope he goes back to his natural speech in his future vids
@@HBarnill I apologize (just got to that part of the video talking about lenses) but isn't almost everything for high-budget films shot with artificial light to complement natural light (if any)? What's so bad about shadow depth of field?
It's really frustrating how on the consumer side, IMAX as a term has basically been degraded to mean "big screen with loud blown out audio" rather than the full experience. You can find "IMAX" anywhere but most of the theatres/projections suck in comparison to the real deal. I've seen 3 Nolan films in 65mm IMAX and you always have to explain "no no, this is *actual* IMAX"
I agree I hate how they lie to the consumers like this. Not just screen size but actual movies shot with 18k cameras vs movies digitally scaled to fit Imax formats.
@@zoulzopan I've seen multiple comments from you talking about "18k". What are you referring to? There's no 18k cameras and no 18k projectors. It seems like you read the theoretical digital equivalent resolution to 15-70 film, which is completely theoretical and is not based in any kind of fact, and took that to mean they shoot or project in 18k.
Even on a 70mm projector you're viewing a positive print out from a digital scan of the original negative for anything made recently.
My local IMAX theatre is at a science museum with an old theater. We've always called true IMAX Omnimax
You're right that even films which get 15/70 distributions are usually printed from digital. But Oppenheimer's 15/70 release was an exception as they printed it though a strictly photochemical process
@@ojtheaviator1795 Most of the film was finished entirely photochemically, but to say "strictly" is verifiably false.
The film has a number of VFX shots that use digital compositing, so would have had to have been scanned and then printed.
The Tron Sequel was the best Imax experience I've ever had. The sense of gigantic space and depth in some scenes was fabulous.
IMAX is the supreme modern format, it might have it's drawbacks like the size of the camera and how loud it is, and how expensive it is to shoot and process IMAX film but it sure pays off in the end with a supremely crisper pristine image over any other format, this is something that other formats cannot do and anything you watch from home will not give you this experience. It's kinda like a when movies of the 60's and 70's were shot on Super Panavision 70mm first only shown in certain cinemas in a super widescreen format in which television of the time couldn't give.
I agree. Actually, it's because television could accommodate a 4:3 ratio that films in the 50s started being made in 1.66, 1.85 and wider. Now's the same, always cinema Vs TV
@@antoinepetrov Yes definitely, at that time they were starting to show widescreen movies on to the 4:3 Square TV's of the time so to combat this this format was to entice audiences to see these super widescreen 70mm movies only in theaters.
The issue is the consumers, theyre not convinced that paying a premium to see these movies is worth it I disagree though. Coupled with the fact that so many movies and cinemas lie to their audience about what constitute as a true "Imax" most ppl dont realize that true Imax screens are rare and only exists in certain locations and movies that are shot in true 18k Imax resolution vs digital upscaled Imax which sucks.
@@zoulzopan Yes definitely, movies that are shot on the IMAX format and which is also screened in IMAX theaters need to be truly IMAX certified so consumer's know what they're watching is truly IMAX in all it's glory.
99.99% of the population just doesn't give a damn about quality, sadly, eventually going the way of the dodo. Maybe one day we'll have the ability to replicate the experience at home. I suspect people would be willing to pay a handsome premium on proper IMAX versions of particular releases - if it's even physically possible.
Very interesting. Shame there are very little theatres left actively showing IMAX its full potential
After seeing a so called IMAX projection in a multiplex near L.A. I did understand why many audience doesn’t see a difference between “normal” 4K and this kind of “IMAX”: Because there was no! Even the sound was far away from what DOLBY Atmos delivers. So it makes a big difference WHERE you attend an IMAX movie.
you didn't see a real imax projection. Imax with laser is only 4k resolution and the screen is much smaller. There are only 3 theaters in LA with Imax 70mm projectors. I saw it at two of those venues.
@@shaunpoland5656Yes, that‘s what I mean: It makes a big difference what kind of IMAX you get to see.
@@olivermengershausen2686 lets just called it liemax and 70mm IMAX
Wow so I'm not crazy then 😂. I just saw interstellar in imax and I wasn't really blown away, yeah itnlooked good and sounded good but idk people made it seem like it was an experience. I guess I didn't even see the real thing 😂
I absolutely love imax I don’t understand why so many people don’t seem to care about their experince and settle for streaming movies when it’s just not the point at all. Reduces everything to basic plot with no sensory and visual perception and immersion the way a big big screen and imax can provide to really give that all-encompassing experince of “being inside” the movie not just sitting outside it watching from afar . Totally changes the entire experience
We watch the quality we think we deserve 😌
Spoken like a person that doesn’t have a surround sound. I’m willing to bet the system in my living room is more immersive than the theater considering a gunman could run in the theater at any moment, meanwhile my front door is bolted shut. I can freely ignore my surroundings.
Never been to a cinema that wasn't earrape
Wish I could experience IMAX laser, only have the 2K Xenon in my city, but it looks better than the standard 2K projection
As always, very informative and simple to understand. Thanks!
@7:18 I met a guy that I can still call my buddy, that is still today an IMAX Projection Tech in Jordans Furniture IMAX Reading, MA.. He did some part time work for my IT company when I was shorthanded. I was wowed by his work there. Him handling a 600lb reel of film really amazed me
Just looking at that shot of the mountains in that one documentary you showed, you can see how utterly amazing the format looks. We’ve gotten somewhat close to emulating the 15/70 format digitally (most notably on Dune and its second Part which went so far as getting a 70mm print), but we’re still a long ways off from ever truly matching the 70mm IMAX look to an exact. There is truly nothing like it.
1:22 heyever ?
13:02 that is super clean footage right there.....also, it is known as a footage because films are measure in feet....
Very informative and educated video ✌️🤞
How do you grab all this full imax ratio clips when the blu rays are all in 16:9?
I wish home releases or imax movies would show the entire frame
i actually wasn't thinking we were still filming with nagative.. i thought everything was digital at this point
What happened to the video about Sony FX3 camera used in The Creator?
What is the cmos sensor size of the digital imax approved cameras like the Sony Venice, Arris and Reds in comparison to the MSM 9802? Do they all use medium format sensors of the same size?
imagine IMAX uncompressed image projected/displayed inside the Vegas Sphere.
The best imax i experienced was Oppenheimer in 4k dual laser Imax projection in New Delhi. It was phenomenal.
Hopefully i get to see a real IMAX someday 😢
13:11
Digital IMAX should be developed to counter the issues of 65mm IMAX film camera
I've always thought of it as a very niche gimmick. It's nice that it's there, but it's all I can say about it
You know there is uncropped 70mm IMAX footage out there. All IMAX sequences from
the Dark Knight movies are available.
I saw Oppenheimer at a local theater that only has 2K imax because a friend was in town. It was good; but then I made a road trip to the full imax, and man, was it so much better. I feel ruined to anything else now.
Nobody talks about how these high res imax footages are edited! 🤕
What kind of beast editing system is required for them...🤦♂️😴🤷♂️
There is a mistake in your video - The Panavision System 65 lenses cover only the system 65mm 5-perf format, not 15/70 imax.
If only we would get 4:3 aspect ratios from IMAX movies on Disk/download. Instead we get the immensely cropped 2.40:1 🥶
i saw oppenhiemer in original imax format in arizona tempe
Great video! I'm curious, where do you find these 1.43:1 clips? Are they just clips from TH-cam or is there some way to obtain true Imax ratio versions of these films?! I really wish it to be true...
One can only hope there'll be 1.43:1 IMAX releases on home media...
Hey, how did you get these 1.43:1 scenes? I’ve been looking for ages and I want to get all the interstellar imax scenes in this format
2:55
The aspect ratios of IMAX is kind of a mess
VistaVision is the best format to shoot a cinema in film and full frame in digital format
Please help me better understand the psychology of cinema in the following video.
11:26
Yes true it's too costly
The film budget will increase drastically
It’s a bit frustrating that in Switzerland you can most of the times see the iMax feature films only with subtitles in 2 languages and therefore you cannot experience the film in the original language without subtitles.
Which is very weird, since iMax is supposed to be more immersive, but it’s definitely not immersive if you always have 2 lines of subtitle on it 😭
Thank you
1570 IMAX is amazing however there are only so many auditoriums in the world. For some reasin my state happens to have one. Dolby is far more accessible and is an incredivle experience also.
IMAX cameras also have a digital sensor. One cannot wait for film to be processed via "rushes". Directors can OK footage on site.
Isn’t this “video assist”?
If they make another BLADE RUNNER
They have to hire Hoyte Van Hoytema
roger deakins shot blade runner 2049. pretty decent choice, too
Harris Savides cinematography style
Fascinating. Thank you.
4:04
The IMAX camera is big and not practical in many of filming locations
How do you edit a footage shot on film?
You probably get it developed and scanned like a film photo, but in a vídeo version, and the edit it, I guess.
Import it to a computer
@@alissong.that’s just importing the film to digital files
But why can’t digital imax projectors show the full 1.43 picture? Even if it means losing a little resolution, wouldn’t filmmakers want more audiences to see the frame/composition as it was intended? With the way it is now, filmmakers gotta consider the 1.43 frame that’s only gonna play on a couple dozen screens, the 1.9 frame for the digital of the IMAX screens, and the 1.77 or 2.35 frame for regular screens. For the budget that IMAX adds to the production, it doesn’t seem worth it if barely anyone is gonna see all that extra screen real estate the filmmakers paid so much for.
5:20
IMAX certified digital cameras are better than 65mm film IMAX cameras
So Imax is like the old 70mm film from the 1960s
IMAX is more than the film/sensor of the camera
That's the trouble-I don't object to digital projection or filmmaking, but forget how niche IMAX is as a filmmaking tool; you can hardly find an IMAX exhibition house that gives you 15/70. I don't know if that's a branding sellout, a short-term patch to fund these better technologies, or what. I don't know what gets people into theaters, but a big-ass wall with a movie on it...might.
What is stopping us from using a 70 by 48 mm sensor on a digital camera?
Yields - as chip sizes get bigger, the chance of the chip having defects goes up. We can only make chips so big before there's just about a 100% chance of there being unacceptable defects.
Nolan plays a main role over here
5:00 18.000 pixels? IMAX?
He means it has 18k resolution.
yeah, I know. But that's a lot more than 18.000 pixels@@1001-g4d
Great video.
Awesome vid!
Still surprised apple hasn't dmca'd imax
We went from 4:3 to 16:9 and came back to 4:3
Do you still have real IMAX theatres near you that project from film ?
Awesome & Thanks :)
I don't get it how this filme can produce more picture quality than digital
Well all quiet correct except for some details... The shallow depth of field achieved in Imax shot is relative and can be obtained in many other ways: anamorphics, shooting wide open with fast lenses and so on... I guess Imax is a great medium for film but a bit overrated and absolutely not democratic... And there are some specs that nobody seems to be involved or interested in: for example Imax format has been conceived in order to be projected at 75 IRE of maximum level - being thought to be on theaters -. Definitely it s not for any pixel screen whatsoever. So scanning it to be digitalized can also be a cons. Nevertheless I d be not so sure that its DR in terms of useable stops could match the 17 stops of Alexa35... All considered I guess there is too hype around this format.
I think dolby vision can replace it
bruh 70mm is the height not the width, because the film is rotated
The width of the physical film roll and the aspect ratio orientation are two ENTIRELY different things
Only christopher nalon sir movie display in IMAX
8:42
I think digital IMAX with 6k to 12k resolution with 3:2 aspect ratio or 16 : 10 aspect ratio
Should be developed
Film IMAX is not practical
Digital IMAX 💯💯
i have a few imax frames, your model in the vid is too tall
Remember... it's IMAX, not iMax... no matter what Apple may say... ;-P
Imax is so overrated and films that switch between aspect ratios are so annoying to watch. That 4/3 ratio just doesn't look good for action films and the only real improvement for me has been the sound.
FX3
The voice of the commentator is difficult 😮 should work in his intonation and avoid this unnecessary high tones .... sorry for this critics, but its hard to listen ....
For you, maybe 😄
Where are you come from ? He only have a prounounced accent...
Americans aren't very good at non American accents.
I noticed this as well. The video content is excellent as usual, but His prior narrations had a much more natural tone and cadence. I hope he goes back to his natural speech in his future vids
Too bad the shallow focus is crap.
That has nothing to do with IMAX and everything to do with the lenses used.
@@yeshua_schissulak Yes and there aren't any lenses that can capture IMAX or large format at deep focus or natural light.
@@HBarnill I apologize (just got to that part of the video talking about lenses) but isn't almost everything for high-budget films shot with artificial light to complement natural light (if any)? What's so bad about shadow depth of field?
@@yeshua_schissulak For a format that can showcase color range and detail, what's the point if not all of it is in focus?
@@HBarnill That's a fair point. Do you know any directors who talk about why they do/don't shoot with IMAX cameras?
IMAX is a little overrated
Cost