If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.” Gn. 4.7
23:20 - Marriage is, by definition, the union of one man and one woman for life. So the question in the sermon title is really, "Does God Still Love Me if I Willfully Disobey and Live in Sin?"
Anthony, I'm sorry you feel this way. There are many folks who feel the same and struggle with what it all means. Let me first start by saying God does not hate you. There is nothing in this world that could make the God who made you, hate you. I need to follow that up with the fact that no matter what we do apart from God is sin. One of the biggest arguments I hear from folks is that we were all "made" a particular way (i.e. some sort of sexual identity). Because of what the Bible says, I don't believe this is true. We were all made in the image of God and in the Bible, it tells us how we are made (male or female). I'm in no way passing judgement on you (or anyone else for that matter), but what we all need to understand is that if we live by any standard different than how God designed the world, we are in sin. This does not mean I am hated or unlovable, it just means I need to understand what God's love REALLY means and how I can live in that. It starts with being able to admit where I have sinned, understand that Jesus sacrificed himself to take my punishment for that sin and believe that He did that for me. That's true love... That someone would sacrifice himself for another even though we hate/d Him. If you would like to go deeper or discuss more, please don't hesitate to reach out any time.
Jesus came to save us from hell and from sin (Luke 5:32). We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). sin leads to hell but Jesus leads to Heaven because Jesus is the only way to Heaven (John 14:6, Romans 6:23), He's the only one true God, He's the only way we can be Saved. the bible (which is infallible and uncorruptible and never lies) says that Jesus came to save us, Jesus came and went to the cross to pay our sin debt full, He died and paid our sin debt in full, God rose Jesus on the third day, He conquered hell, sin, death, the world and He stumped on the devil's head. He broke the walls that kept us from coming to Him and having a relationship with Him. He did all that for us because He wants to save our souls and He wants to have a relationship with us (John 3:16, John 14:6, John 19:30, Romans 5). come to Jesus, believe and repent of your sins and God will forgive you and cleanse you and make you born again by His Holy Spirit (John 3:3-18). Heaven is eternal but know hell is eternal as well. don't die in your sins, don't die without Christ because if you die without Christ and die in your sins then hell awaits you and you'll never get out of it, only Jesus can save you from hell's grasp. believe and repent and God will save you!
This sermon is disastrous... "all of us must say no to certain sexual desires." REALLY? How about you say no so you give up on the only way that gives you intimacy. Comparing same sex attraction to other sexual desires that heterosexual people have is extremely selfish and does not have the minimum level of empathy. Yes heterosexual people can say no to some sexual desires but they can still have intimacy in sex... Homosexuals don't have that luxury. And please, don't say: Jesus says!
yes the conversation about homosexual people being about being all about lust is a misrepresentation, I think even Sam would admit that even though he is using a langugage which points somewhere else.
First, the analogy of marriage to eschatology is a bit esoteric. It’s fine to analogize human marriage to the Union between Christ and Church at the end of the current age/order of things since there is value in trying to convey the depth of Christ and the Church’s relationship. Regrettably however, the two are treated almost as synonymous rather than merely analogous, even leading to the deification of marriage. To be clear, there’s some value in using the analogy, but the two are not the same, and should therefore not be given equal weight. By extension, I’m not sure if there is much value in using the analogy as a foundation for arguing against same-sex (gay) human relationships/marriage vis-a-vis opposite-sex (straight) human relationships/marriages since straight marriage is not synonymous with the Union of Christ and Church; again, it’s just a useful analogy to get an idea across. Second, the idea that Jesus’ was opining on homosexual relationships in Matthew 19 when discussing divorce vis-a-vis Genesis’ description of human relations has always seemed a bit strained and reaching to me. I mean, maybe Jesus would have landed where conservative ethicists (like Sam) argue, especially given how conservative His subculture was. Then again, there’s no way to be sure, especially given other weightier virtues such as love, as demonstrable by monogamous couples who give of themselves sacrificially to one another for a lifetime-which could include a same-sex couple. Notably, it was not beyond Jesus to shatter long-standing norms, even with respect to ontologies about human relations. Admittedly, Sam does a beautiful job of crafting and presenting his arguments. Even so, the real value and efficacy of his arguments are realized insofar as they are the basis for his celibacy as a personal expression of faithfulness. This personal commitment provides greater justification for arguments that are not totally well founded given all the conjecture required and argumentation by analogy. As a final thought, I have always thought that Sam’s personal testimony is likely most efficacious in personal relationships with others tilling similar ground-not before conservative audiences that are not really challenged by his own conservative ethic, other than a passing admonishment to take stock of their own proverbial crosses and be nicer to gay people. I’m not sure that these talks win the hearts and minds of gay people seeking love and affection as much as they affirm ethics that cultural conservatives are eager to espouse and even more eager to have someone like Sam promulgate as a sort of show pony, so to speak.
Keep going, he does talk about divorce, that is the point and you ignored the punchline. Very sloppy yet expected exegesis, rivaling upon eisegesis. And this question was never brought up and thus never answered.
The devil lies to you making you think thoughts are your own, but test it, read your bible. God gave you an identity, in him is our identity. He said out side of marriage, the way marriage was intended by God, between a man and a woman. Just because someone knows the bible, does not mean they follow it truly. God loves us but he made it clear, sinners do not enter the kingdom of God. If we have not repented of our sin, he will not forgive us. God wants to see you in heaven. But if we reject what he said, where God cannot be with sin, how can we expect to be with him in heaven if we will fully disobey. He gave us free will, and I wish that my will is Gods will so that I can be with him in heaven. When we chose to follow Christ we choose to give up our will for his. We are NOT even able to say I follow Christ but I choose to sin will fully and ignore what he said, we cannot say I do Gods will, but don't. If I choose to shoot heroin for the rest of my life, but claim to follow Christ, am I really following Christ or am I following what I wanna do?
Do you not hear that he has already found it? Answer to Jesus deepest knocking on your heart and He will you to true eternal, unbreakable love. You may have temporarily found love in someone, it wont last if Jesus is not leader of your life.
We are broken without a relationship with Jesus. We will have these these thoughts and possibly act on immorality. To bad mouth Jesus is bad mouthing the Lord. What he say is true. The bible says no one will come to the father except through him. These longings you feel are not necessarily from our selves. Jesus gets my will, we give our "true" self to God because HE DIED for *US*. Our identity is in him.
Sin starts in the mind....not once you act it out. He is living in sin by entertaining sinful thoughts, excusing them, and not repenting of them. He is not gay. He has sinful and unnatural lusts
Being gay is not a choice. It’s not something you can control (or should have to try to). Jesus says in the bible that we don’t have full control over our thoughts. Some modern Christian churches promote policing your own thoughts, which is very unhealthy. I’m not saying if you have terrible thoughts you intend to act on that that is ok, im saying that Jesus knows there are intrusive thoughts we do not have control of, so promoting the idea we can and must control everything we think and feel, even to the point where you are meant to be able to control something as intangible as love, is ridiculous. Jesus’ greatest power is love, don’t try and creat the narrative that it is polluted, because it is a gift from God.
@@SleepyCrumpet "Being gay is not a choice?" Then maybe you ought to Read Romans 1 paying particular attention to verses 22-28 and then re-assess your position. God loves the sinner but not the sin!
it is also sinful to desire to commit homosexual acts. Does this mean that same-sex attraction is a sin?, we must distinguish between active sin and the passive condition of being tempted. It is not a sin to be tempted. Jesus was tempted, yet He sinned not (Matthew 4:1; Hebrews 4:15). Eve was tempted in the garden, and she definitely found the forbidden fruit to be appealing, but it seems that she did not actually sin until she took the fruit and ate it (Genesis 3:6-7). A struggle with temptation may lead to sin, but the struggle is not a sin itself.
PZZZZZ WHEN WE ACCEPT THE LORD WE BECOME HIS CHILDREN AND WE LIVE UNDER THE PERIOD OF THE GRACE OK ....THEREFORE CAST ALL YOUR ANXIETY OVER THE LORD AND DO HIS WILL, HE SAID, WITHOUT ME YOU CAN NOT DO ANYTHING SO TRUST IN HIM CHANGES COME ALONG, NOW YOU GIVE HAS MUCH YOU LOVE AND PRACTICE OBEDIENCE, THIS ISSUE OR CONDUCT WILL BE ADRESS BY HIM, IT BECOMES HIS WORK TO MOLD YOU AGAIN, TO HIS PERFECTION, WITH THIS BEEN SAID DO NOT FELL SEPARATED FROM HIM FOR HE IS WITH YOU TILL THE END OF TIMES, SO DON'T WORRY CHANGES REAL ONES COMES FROM INSIDE OUT, DO NOT PRETEND OR BE DIFFERENT TO BE LIKED OR ACCEPTED THIS ARE NOT YOU'RE WORRIES OR DUTIES ANYMORE, REAL CHRISTIANS HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOG AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE OF TEACH YOU THE LORD TRUTH WITH LOVE AND WITH PATIENCE, WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS SEPARATE YOUR SELF FROM THE WORLD AND HIS HABITS. CONGREGATE AND MAKE SURE YOU GIVE THE LORD ALL YOUR LOVE AND TRUST HIM BECAUSE AS MUCH YOU TURN TO HIM ABOUT YOURSELF THE MORE, HE WILL MANIFEST IN YOUR LIFE.REMEMBER TURN YOURE OPRESSION TO HIM, HE WILL MAKE EVERYTHING NEW AGAIN BE PATIENCE.
I will have to listen to this again! So encouraging!!!! 🙏🏼
I keep coming back to this. What a gift.
If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”
Gn. 4.7
It is God who made us. The intelligent designer. All of creation is sacred. Be renewed and transformed. Thank you for this powerful message 💜 💖 💚💙🧡💛
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Brilliant and informative video. Thanks Sam 🤗🙏
Enlightening and encouraging testimony that would make you all the more folow YESHUA!
23:20 - Marriage is, by definition, the union of one man and one woman for life.
So the question in the sermon title is really, "Does God Still Love Me if I Willfully Disobey and Live in Sin?"
But Sam is dedicated to lifelong celibacy, therefore willingly not expressing his sexuality.
@@miguelbayne4506 - why not be dedicated to the only legitimate, holy sexual expression?
@@Charles.Wright Which is what? Are you suggesting he should marry a woman?
Then which of Jacob, David or Solomon's wives were they not married to?
He's not living in sin though.
Sam always speaks so clearly.
Jesus is Lord! We are only created beings. Who sits on the throne of your heart? We can not save ourselves. Blessed be name of the Lord our God! 💕 🙏
Amen
Thank you. You have helped me!
amen
Intimacy with Jesus❤️
This was amazing!
I’m scared God doesn’t love me because I’m Gay 🏳️🌈. I need advice 🥹😭
God sees innocence he loves you 🙏🏻
@@Nicnac13 Every day is hard as a Gay man. I always get told God hates me because I love Men and that I’m going to Hell 🥺🤦♂️😭
He doesn't according to all these people
Do not be fooled. You still sit on the throne of your heart🙏🙏🙏
Anthony,
I'm sorry you feel this way. There are many folks who feel the same and struggle with what it all means. Let me first start by saying God does not hate you. There is nothing in this world that could make the God who made you, hate you.
I need to follow that up with the fact that no matter what we do apart from God is sin. One of the biggest arguments I hear from folks is that we were all "made" a particular way (i.e. some sort of sexual identity). Because of what the Bible says, I don't believe this is true. We were all made in the image of God and in the Bible, it tells us how we are made (male or female). I'm in no way passing judgement on you (or anyone else for that matter), but what we all need to understand is that if we live by any standard different than how God designed the world, we are in sin.
This does not mean I am hated or unlovable, it just means I need to understand what God's love REALLY means and how I can live in that. It starts with being able to admit where I have sinned, understand that Jesus sacrificed himself to take my punishment for that sin and believe that He did that for me. That's true love... That someone would sacrifice himself for another even though we hate/d Him.
If you would like to go deeper or discuss more, please don't hesitate to reach out any time.
Yes he do an he will always do it's ok if men hate u they need love
Jesus came to save us from hell and from sin (Luke 5:32). We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). sin leads to hell but Jesus leads to Heaven because Jesus is the only way to Heaven (John 14:6, Romans 6:23), He's the only one true God, He's the only way we can be Saved. the bible (which is infallible and uncorruptible and never lies) says that Jesus came to save us, Jesus came and went to the cross to pay our sin debt full, He died and paid our sin debt in full, God rose Jesus on the third day, He conquered hell, sin, death, the world and He stumped on the devil's head. He broke the walls that kept us from coming to Him and having a relationship with Him. He did all that for us because He wants to save our souls and He wants to have a relationship with us (John 3:16, John 14:6, John 19:30, Romans 5). come to Jesus, believe and repent of your sins and God will forgive you and cleanse you and make you born again by His Holy Spirit (John 3:3-18). Heaven is eternal but know hell is eternal as well. don't die in your sins, don't die without Christ because if you die without Christ and die in your sins then hell awaits you and you'll never get out of it, only Jesus can save you from hell's grasp. believe and repent and God will save you!
Short answer: yes of course He does.
This sermon is disastrous... "all of us must say no to certain sexual desires." REALLY? How about you say no so you give up on the only way that gives you intimacy. Comparing same sex attraction to other sexual desires that heterosexual people have is extremely selfish and does not have the minimum level of empathy. Yes heterosexual people can say no to some sexual desires but they can still have intimacy in sex... Homosexuals don't have that luxury. And please, don't say: Jesus says!
Those sexual desires are lust, not attraction they are not the same
@@juangabriellopez4475 how sure are you about that?
yes the conversation about homosexual people being about being all about lust is a misrepresentation, I think even Sam would admit that even though he is using a langugage which points somewhere else.
Looking forward to this
First, the analogy of marriage to eschatology is a bit esoteric. It’s fine to analogize human marriage to the Union between Christ and Church at the end of the current age/order of things since there is value in trying to convey the depth of Christ and the Church’s relationship. Regrettably however, the two are treated almost as synonymous rather than merely analogous, even leading to the deification of marriage. To be clear, there’s some value in using the analogy, but the two are not the same, and should therefore not be given equal weight. By extension, I’m not sure if there is much value in using the analogy as a foundation for arguing against same-sex (gay) human relationships/marriage vis-a-vis opposite-sex (straight) human relationships/marriages since straight marriage is not synonymous with the Union of Christ and Church; again, it’s just a useful analogy to get an idea across.
Second, the idea that Jesus’ was opining on homosexual relationships in Matthew 19 when discussing divorce vis-a-vis Genesis’ description of human relations has always seemed a bit strained and reaching to me. I mean, maybe Jesus would have landed where conservative ethicists (like Sam) argue, especially given how conservative His subculture was. Then again, there’s no way to be sure, especially given other weightier virtues such as love, as demonstrable by monogamous couples who give of themselves sacrificially to one another for a lifetime-which could include a same-sex couple. Notably, it was not beyond Jesus to shatter long-standing norms, even with respect to ontologies about human relations.
Admittedly, Sam does a beautiful job of crafting and presenting his arguments. Even so, the real value and efficacy of his arguments are realized insofar as they are the basis for his celibacy as a personal expression of faithfulness. This personal commitment provides greater justification for arguments that are not totally well founded given all the conjecture required and argumentation by analogy.
As a final thought, I have always thought that Sam’s personal testimony is likely most efficacious in personal relationships with others tilling similar ground-not before conservative audiences that are not really challenged by his own conservative ethic, other than a passing admonishment to take stock of their own proverbial crosses and be nicer to gay people. I’m not sure that these talks win the hearts and minds of gay people seeking love and affection as much as they affirm ethics that cultural conservatives are eager to espouse and even more eager to have someone like Sam promulgate as a sort of show pony, so to speak.
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Amen.
Keep going, he does talk about divorce, that is the point and you ignored the punchline. Very sloppy yet expected exegesis, rivaling upon eisegesis. And this question was never brought up and thus never answered.
What a mixed-up distortion of God's plenitude for you this is. May God help him.
The devil lies to you making you think thoughts are your own, but test it, read your bible. God gave you an identity, in him is our identity. He said out side of marriage, the way marriage was intended by God, between a man and a woman. Just because someone knows the bible, does not mean they follow it truly. God loves us but he made it clear, sinners do not enter the kingdom of God. If we have not repented of our sin, he will not forgive us. God wants to see you in heaven. But if we reject what he said, where God cannot be with sin, how can we expect to be with him in heaven if we will fully disobey. He gave us free will, and I wish that my will is Gods will so that I can be with him in heaven. When we chose to follow Christ we choose to give up our will for his. We are NOT even able to say I follow Christ but I choose to sin will fully and ignore what he said, we cannot say I do Gods will, but don't. If I choose to shoot heroin for the rest of my life, but claim to follow Christ, am I really following Christ or am I following what I wanna do?
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Amen🙏✝️😇👑❤️🥰
What is gay in biblical definition ? How do you know a definition like this exists in sense of truthfulness ?
I pray that you find love!
Do you not hear that he has already found it? Answer to Jesus deepest knocking on your heart and He will you to true eternal, unbreakable love. You may have temporarily found love in someone, it wont last if Jesus is not leader of your life.
We are broken without a relationship with Jesus. We will have these these thoughts and possibly act on immorality. To bad mouth Jesus is bad mouthing the Lord. What he say is true. The bible says no one will come to the father except through him. These longings you feel are not necessarily from our selves. Jesus gets my will, we give our "true" self to God because HE DIED for *US*. Our identity is in him.
🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈
HE still loves you,but hates what you do,if you love HIM,repent and sin no more,its that simple...😇
Sad to believe people think this way
It's not sad
What's sad about it??
It’s not sad. Jesus calls us to deny ourselves. We have to count the cost of following Christ
Go and sell all you have then come back and bash others after you've completed your dedication.
Sin starts in the mind....not once you act it out. He is living in sin by entertaining sinful thoughts, excusing them, and not repenting of them. He is not gay. He has sinful and unnatural lusts
Being gay is not a choice.
It’s not something you can control (or should have to try to).
Jesus says in the bible that we don’t have full control over our thoughts.
Some modern Christian churches promote policing your own thoughts, which is very unhealthy.
I’m not saying if you have terrible thoughts you intend to act on that that is ok, im saying that Jesus knows there are intrusive thoughts we do not have control of, so promoting the idea we can and must control everything we think and feel, even to the point where you are meant to be able to control something as intangible as love, is ridiculous.
Jesus’ greatest power is love, don’t try and creat the narrative that it is polluted, because it is a gift from God.
@@SleepyCrumpet "Being gay is not a choice?" Then maybe you ought to Read Romans 1 paying particular attention to verses 22-28 and then re-assess your position. God loves the sinner but not the sin!
it is also sinful to desire to commit homosexual acts. Does this mean that same-sex attraction is a sin?, we must distinguish between active sin and the passive condition of being tempted. It is not a sin to be tempted. Jesus was tempted, yet He sinned not (Matthew 4:1; Hebrews 4:15). Eve was tempted in the garden, and she definitely found the forbidden fruit to be appealing, but it seems that she did not actually sin until she took the fruit and ate it (Genesis 3:6-7). A struggle with temptation may lead to sin, but the struggle is not a sin itself.
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No.
This "pastor" has mocked Jesus.
In what way?
Sorry Emilie but it would be easy to mock your comment when you make accusations without proof or examples.
No what you say is actually for beautiful
PZZZZZ WHEN WE ACCEPT THE LORD WE BECOME HIS CHILDREN AND WE LIVE UNDER THE PERIOD OF THE GRACE OK ....THEREFORE CAST ALL YOUR ANXIETY OVER THE LORD AND DO HIS WILL, HE SAID, WITHOUT ME YOU CAN NOT DO ANYTHING SO TRUST IN HIM CHANGES COME ALONG, NOW YOU GIVE HAS MUCH YOU LOVE AND PRACTICE OBEDIENCE, THIS ISSUE OR CONDUCT WILL BE ADRESS BY HIM, IT BECOMES HIS WORK TO MOLD YOU AGAIN, TO HIS PERFECTION, WITH THIS BEEN SAID DO NOT FELL SEPARATED FROM HIM FOR HE IS WITH YOU TILL THE END OF TIMES, SO DON'T WORRY CHANGES REAL ONES COMES FROM INSIDE OUT, DO NOT PRETEND OR BE DIFFERENT TO BE LIKED OR ACCEPTED THIS ARE NOT YOU'RE WORRIES OR DUTIES ANYMORE, REAL CHRISTIANS HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOG AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE OF TEACH YOU THE LORD TRUTH WITH LOVE AND WITH PATIENCE, WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IS SEPARATE YOUR SELF FROM THE WORLD AND HIS HABITS. CONGREGATE AND MAKE SURE YOU GIVE THE LORD ALL YOUR LOVE AND TRUST HIM BECAUSE AS MUCH YOU TURN TO HIM ABOUT YOURSELF THE MORE, HE WILL MANIFEST IN YOUR LIFE.REMEMBER TURN YOURE OPRESSION TO HIM, HE WILL MAKE EVERYTHING NEW AGAIN BE PATIENCE.