Absolutely I switched cause I find the character fun and I’ll do it again when a new character gets reworked cause let’s be honest this game is dogshit
@@TasteTheRainbow346 wait, I just started playing again today after like 3-4 years and conq was the same? I actually got top of scoreboard one round with him and I have no idea how XD To me he felt good but so much has changed, I really shouldn't have an opinion on this cs I dont know all the changes ect. Someone care to tell me why conq needs a rework and all that's happened?
I like that shinobi is stronger now, but it has been annoying getting punished after reacting to his kick, just like with BP's bash. I've been mostly using shugoki lately and if they spam the kick I can't catch them when they do the backflip if I use headbutt or zone. I just have to continuously dodge the bashes or parry the heavy for a weak punish, which isn't very fun or engaging.
Than stop dodging on reaction shinobi is punishable if you guess right. Even with a gb, unlike most bashes even tho bashes should be gb punishable if dodged on guess.
@@y0rrzu971 If I try to guard break after dodging the kick with shugoki I headbutt, or the guard break is too late and they are starting the front roll. I'm sure I have to just keep trying to find some timing that works. I'm not losing every fight against them tho, they are just annoying to fight
That shit looked annoying as fuck lol. Good players on top of a newly reworked hero who is already annoying to fight by nature…. You’re a Saint lol. Respect
You just a bad teammate magnet, huh? You're humble. A rare find in a for honor player. Stay vibin', man. You're among the best of em when it comes to politeness.
@@Kodiamoso Lmao, should rename myself “Humble-Wolf-Saint” 😂. Yeah I rarely get salty on games so much to insult people, also because most times if I lose it’s just my fault. Also, I know that I can be a really good “gamer” in FH skill-wise, but sadly there are a few issues I encounter: 1) My skill is never the same day by day. I can be extremely good (in ranked duels I got to “master” rank last two seasons, and managed to keep my rank as well) some days, and other days capable of being such an immensely trash noob xD. I don’t know, maybe I should do some academy with some competitive players, do some more warm ups (training more with mouse and key, it’s three months I use em) in training mode before joining online… Still, Idk, even after 480 reps I still have huge skill swings 😂. 2) I get so damn nervous whenever I fight against content creators! Had some good fights with Havok, mr Fudged Truffle here, my man mGoldie and BarakYeet but damn I’m sure that my skill level drops because I get nervous against them 😂.
I like that shinobi finally is playable again but dam you can’t even play the game for half the fight with the way his kit works super safe and a lot of dmg to
The shinobi mirrors were entertaining! However, it’s safe to say that Shinobi is super powerful & counters much of the For Honor cast. Maybe Kyoshin would be a good counter due to his quick undodgable finisher lights, but even with that the match up would require great reads. The hero can barely even counter itself. I wonder how/why Ubisoft thought that this was a good idea.
i swear i beat someone with deflects and parries (a skill based win) and they just go "god damn man that new "op" character is really something" its annoying and just an insult
I’ve done that shit on warlord. I throw a couple headbutts in there and now warlord is op and no skill. Go figure. Now I’m learning some Conq because fuck it
@@StoicScape219 You're probably gonna get that same treatment on Conq. Block someone with all guard, "I see they made him OP with turtling to make him good" or some shit.
@@kielbasamage i was dealing with that 2 years ago when i started using conq lmao. Theres some players that think theres patches nerfs and buffs when there arent and its hilarious lmao
19:35 this warlord dodge the kick 3 times and didn't even try to GB, and when loses, he complains, that right there is a for honor rants player right there
Shinobi has always been my favorite. And dodge attacks have always been my most hated feature. And shinobi is literally the anti dodge attack. Dodge attacking me as shinobi is tantamount to suicide. And I love every single second.
Ubisoft: reworks shinobi Shinobi mains that, liked to play shinobi, because it took skill to play him and now he is op: "look how they massacred my boy"
I like the new adjustments, but some things need to be changed. For example the 24 +15 damage. Confirmed bash deflect, while nuxias is 30 something that's blockable. A 40 damage confirmed deflect seems just a taaaaad bit excessive.
idk if you know 2 things but when you do a zone you can do a back flip after the first rotation and when you do a deflect you can go into sickle rain or faint it to a gb
After all this time playing highlander, seeing a Conq player suffer the way I do in the new matchup is relieving. Also, best way to beat shinobi is to beat the player. The old don’t beat the wave beat the surfer.
i feel like failed cycle kick bashes shouldnt allow follow-ups, at least not until he hits the floor or smth. personally i feel not at all, every other character gets punished for failed bashes
How do you do that little kick I see being thrown out every now and again? I don’t mean like the dodge side or forward spin kick, but the little one between hits
I hope they don’t nerf him bad, but I definitely feel it coming. I’m fine with the backflip kick going away but pls don’t touch his damage numbers or take away his health again
I mean if they just make it so he doesn't regen stamina on backflip and make it so he can't backflip off flip kick it will be perfect. But yeah I really fear a ubisoft over compensating nerf coming.
@@marzialalfonzocanada888 everybody highlights that he is gb vulnerable on missed bash but fails to highlight that he also has a blue attack that he can do to punish dodges just like gryphon. I have no other issues dealing with shinobi until they bring out that backflip.
its just the stam. people dont like playing against characters with enough stam to put in 10 seconds of offense before stopping to recover. i can think of a couple characters who got nerfed recently with tons of stam
Beautiful calling the zone for the deflect comeback. Alot of people hate the new shinobi but honestly I think he just needs a stamina nerf. Maybe make his heavy speed a little slower. I'm an orochi main but my good friend has been a shinobi main for a long time and the re work makes it so he can actually play more competitively. Shinobi is really hard to fight with Orochi when it used to be the opposite.
@@Jayco2855 as long as you don't throw neutral dodgeattacks or lights even though they got parried like 4 times in a row you should be fine, most importantly, Nova won't judge skill the only FH youtuber who does that is Kenzo, havok and freeze, as long as you aren't toxic or just straight up dumb no one will judge you, except maybe the comments or kenzo, havok and freeze
'Why did they make deflect input kick input' So you can kick to punish an attack if you miss the deflect timing? (Idk anyone who goes for a raw heavy instead of a bash if the enemy can continue their combos most of the time)
Can someone help me, for some reason my sickle throw won't work. I hold down heavy on the controller but it throws a heavy, switched to keyboard and mouse but the problem is still the same...
why can he dodge my punish if i read his kick? thats stupid, he has a choice between undodgable, unblockable and kick if i make a correct read i should be able to punish.
@@MeisterSchwabbo I think it’s the stamina, like he does ten thousand backflips before he’s out of stam, when Kyoshin spins his katana for like twice and already has no stam..
@@ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162 i think ubisoft should make parries drain the enemies stamina but only like 16 stamina per parry. And bashes should cost WAY more stam same goes for every finisher
You succesfuly dodge shinobi's attacks but he just backflips and hits you anyway, he can guarantee an attack every time he kicks you, if you get guard breaked by shinobi he literally does something like 40 damage. Nice rework Ubisoft, nice one.
Hahahahaha bro I agree! You feint to make him throw a kick so you can punish…… rather you get punished for punishing him. I imagine all the guys or girls using this hero are true losers in society that hasn’t amounted to anything in their entire lives besides the ability to use a broken hero. Same goes for highlander and kyoshin or however the fk you spell his girly looking ass.
It’s because he does a guaranteed 24 damage from the deflect and he can go into sickle rain undodge if they try to dodge out your deflect kick it’s perfectly fine
@@tempsikandersuckskilla4112 no i think you just get it by reping him up cause the gold arms and chest peice is all obtainable by leveling up and dont know bout the helmet. hope this helps
* plays warlord first and then falls back on his crutch berserker, potentially one of the best duelists in the game. * watches kick and backflip wiff multiple times without GB punishing it. * Even whines about shugoki who at best is a moderately good 1v1 character. "Damn, must be ubisoft's fault and this guy for exploiting my stupidity!"
This guy was a whoot. Complained about Shugoki while playing Shinobi. What a guy.
To be fair, Shino still has problems with armor on red so..
@@Quiet_Ketsuki who has armor on red? Not Shugoki. Plus it doesn't stop bashes.
@@Quiet_Ketsuki pretty sure the only hero with armour on red is hito during chains?
I love the gay undertones you throw out in this vid fantastic
@@Jondaliner Zerk, Raider, Hito, Shugo, WL. And "go for bash" doesn't fit every opportunity at all times unless you're dueling constantly.
Every man, woman, child and their dogs are Shinobi mains now. The FH cycle of life continues..
thats with ever character, till it gets countered and they dont get ez wins lol he will 100% be killed soon enough
Wait till it's all conqs with his upcoming rework
Ha, a jorm main to this day
Absolutely I switched cause I find the character fun and I’ll do it again when a new character gets reworked cause let’s be honest this game is dogshit
@@TasteTheRainbow346 wait, I just started playing again today after like 3-4 years and conq was the same? I actually got top of scoreboard one round with him and I have no idea how XD
To me he felt good but so much has changed, I really shouldn't have an opinion on this cs I dont know all the changes ect. Someone care to tell me why conq needs a rework and all that's happened?
12:29 - Bruh look how far he slid to him lol
Holy shit you right. Shinobi had roller skates on.
Bro is that you, I fucking love ur mortal kombat vids
Yeah totally not busted
@@nuckingfutsxd1036 Cope
Wait a minute, I feel like I know you from somewhere...
9:35 was the best part EASYLY. Love the humor from both of you two. You guys just make the best vids together!!!
That 2nd game was so entertaining. All the dodging around between both fighters continuously.
I thought it was boring. All that dodging but literally nothing was happening.
2:22 I feel obligated to thank You for this editing.
It just makes me giggle. Like… it just increases the funny
love rewatching this lmao
"his ass is sticking up in the air"
"I'm fine with that"
I like that shinobi is stronger now, but it has been annoying getting punished after reacting to his kick, just like with BP's bash. I've been mostly using shugoki lately and if they spam the kick I can't catch them when they do the backflip if I use headbutt or zone. I just have to continuously dodge the bashes or parry the heavy for a weak punish, which isn't very fun or engaging.
something called guard break that simple
Than stop dodging on reaction shinobi is punishable if you guess right. Even with a gb, unlike most bashes even tho bashes should be gb punishable if dodged on guess.
@@y0rrzu971 If I try to guard break after dodging the kick with shugoki I headbutt, or the guard break is too late and they are starting the front roll. I'm sure I have to just keep trying to find some timing that works. I'm not losing every fight against them tho, they are just annoying to fight
That poor Zerk threw his first attack only to get light parried, had me chuckling
Damn that was a rough day against you guys, I’ll be more prepared next time! :D
That shit looked annoying as fuck lol. Good players on top of a newly reworked hero who is already annoying to fight by nature…. You’re a Saint lol. Respect
You just a bad teammate magnet, huh? You're humble. A rare find in a for honor player. Stay vibin', man. You're among the best of em when it comes to politeness.
@@Kodiamoso Lmao, should rename myself “Humble-Wolf-Saint” 😂.
Yeah I rarely get salty on games so much to insult people, also because most times if I lose it’s just my fault.
Also, I know that I can be a really good “gamer” in FH skill-wise, but sadly there are a few issues I encounter:
1) My skill is never the same day by day. I can be extremely good (in ranked duels I got to “master” rank last two seasons, and managed to keep my rank as well) some days, and other days capable of being such an immensely trash noob xD. I don’t know, maybe I should do some academy with some competitive players, do some more warm ups (training more with mouse and key, it’s three months I use em) in training mode before joining online… Still, Idk, even after 480 reps I still have huge skill swings 😂.
2) I get so damn nervous whenever I fight against content creators! Had some good fights with Havok, mr Fudged Truffle here, my man mGoldie and BarakYeet but damn I’m sure that my skill level drops because I get nervous against them 😂.
7:47 POV: when the homies say they will give you a kiss if you win.
I like that shinobi finally is playable again but dam you can’t even play the game for half the fight with the way his kit works super safe and a lot of dmg to
Nice pfp still, also yeah
@@tizzlewaaa1228 Ty
The shinobi mirrors were entertaining! However, it’s safe to say that Shinobi is super powerful & counters much of the For Honor cast. Maybe Kyoshin would be a good counter due to his quick undodgable finisher lights, but even with that the match up would require great reads. The hero can barely even counter itself. I wonder how/why Ubisoft thought that this was a good idea.
Everyone can dodge and gb... he's vulnerable to that if he's backflipping everything. Just another 50/50 bash undodgeable mixup imo
No, not super powerful. GB and it's all fine.
This guy made prerework shinobi work, so succeeding with a new one is not a mark by any means.
Hes not superpowerful hes very vurnible to guardbreaks plus undogible moves from other players will destroy him if youre not carefull
My guy I'm dead the zooming in an out on zerks face killed me
For that berserker that was basically afk while on guard mode.
Pro tip: try doing something.
i swear i beat someone with deflects and parries (a skill based win) and they just go "god damn man that new "op" character is really something" its annoying and just an insult
I’ve done that shit on warlord. I throw a couple headbutts in there and now warlord is op and no skill. Go figure. Now I’m learning some Conq because fuck it
@@StoicScape219 You're probably gonna get that same treatment on Conq. Block someone with all guard, "I see they made him OP with turtling to make him good" or some shit.
@@kielbasamage i was dealing with that 2 years ago when i started using conq lmao. Theres some players that think theres patches nerfs and buffs when there arent and its hilarious lmao
Out of all of the heros to duel the same hero against, Shinobi has to be the funnest to watch.
0:07 This is called the "tax payers" position. 😂😂
4:03 dang that was clean
I always love watching shinobi mirror fights
Jon is becoming best friends with everyone lmao, love the content Nova, shino is a blast to play now.
110% agree!
Yeah, I never liked Jon.
@@nuckingfutsxd1036 No one asked.
@@nuckingfutsxd1036 Thats alright, nobody in here likes you either.
19:35 this warlord dodge the kick 3 times and didn't even try to GB, and when loses, he complains, that right there is a for honor rants player right there
That enemy shinobi against the Shugo was BEAUTIFUL.
5:59 John was throwing 💀
Yeah ppl will complain about shinobi and i dont disagree with them. He never gets out of stamina.
after the parry, throw a light, into kick, then heavy, sexy chain and almost everything in the combo is guaranteed
13:05 first time i saw Jack'O pose in For Honor
More shinobi! So fun to watch👀
legit the most passive berserker i've ever seen
no unga bunga is surprising
Cant wait for conq re work. It was a dream come true when i saw it. Been waiting years for it. Shinobi was too lol
Is it just me or do I find watching the new Shinobi is way more entertaining than Orochi
13:05 shinobi jack o pose
I’m loving these collabs
I just don’t like how Shinobi doesn’t lose any stamina in that infinite bash whiff into bash. Doing that shit once irl would be exhausting af
Another thing is if your killed when doing your zone attack sometimes a shinobi will die in a weird position it’s hilarious
Atleast the Shinobi didn't spin kick into spin kick.
17:44
damn its like looking in a mirror
The close-ups were too funny... 😂
What is this execution at 1:20 from his teammate?
Does anyone else realize that whenever nova plays shinobi he attracts salty players.
@UCdxafgoxl_rFN9C41wUZEWQ Yep, they're scared that the prey is now the predator.
@@tempsikandersuckskilla4112 bruh what
He attracts salty players on all characters though?
prob cause shinobis a fucking broken mess and will end up getting toned down in a month?
At least he's viable now.
Mad respect to the Shaolin
Shinobi has always been my favorite. And dodge attacks have always been my most hated feature. And shinobi is literally the anti dodge attack. Dodge attacking me as shinobi is tantamount to suicide. And I love every single second.
U can also do backflip light and it closes the gap
Ubisoft: reworks shinobi
Shinobi mains that, liked to play shinobi, because it took skill to play him and now he is op: "look how they massacred my boy"
I like the new adjustments, but some things need to be changed. For example the 24 +15 damage. Confirmed bash deflect, while nuxias is 30 something that's blockable.
A 40 damage confirmed deflect seems just a taaaaad bit excessive.
Only the first 24 damage is confirmed. I think that is too high admittedly, but the extra 15 from the kick can be dodged.
@@freedominart11 ty for the correction, appreciate it. I didn't know that before.
@@quilfrey1139 even after the deflect the kick can be dodged now
tho i would say the dodge for those kicks is TIGHT af
@@bnt2331 nope I can dodge easily . I mean I'm a a shinobi main I guess that's why
idk if you know 2 things but when you do a zone you can do a back flip after the first rotation and when you do a deflect you can go into sickle rain or faint it to a gb
honestly i agree that most shinobi deflects are accidents
poor nick, he right tho, "Wtf ubi" indeed.
Tsushimon was chill to see. Just getting destroyed mostly and wants to rematch to improve.
Tf was the Berserker in the first match.. This man saw a ghost or something.
The character is entertaining to watch but is ridiculously strong rn
Hell yeah big dawg! Nice upload
Amazing as always King
3:27 innnnnnnteresting
Yessir that’s my boy Paris in the first game
No way he said Shaolin has nothing, he's so funny
Somebody give Cosmo a kiss already Damn
That kick is super high risk
The kick:14:35
does anyone not know about the free Gb u get against shinobi?
For anyone trying to get better or pick up Shinobi do you have any advice?
can we see wat ur gear is for shinobi he looks fye asf
Nova king what’s your key map? I just switched to PC I need help!!
That berserker did not react at all
In fairness since his rework, shinobi is hard as hell to hit.
Buddy said fat kiss
After all this time playing highlander, seeing a Conq player suffer the way I do in the new matchup is relieving.
Also, best way to beat shinobi is to beat the player. The old don’t beat the wave beat the surfer.
So torture him mentally if he is playing Shinobi to win, time to go grab my cursed anime theme song playlist
Or know to light during his back flip and they’ll get hit . Zone works betters.
@@rylandmcclelland876 I prefer my method
15:34 Cinematic as fuck.
i feel like failed cycle kick bashes shouldnt allow follow-ups, at least not until he hits the floor or smth. personally i feel not at all, every other character gets punished for failed bashes
How do you do that little kick I see being thrown out every now and again? I don’t mean like the dodge side or forward spin kick, but the little one between hits
If you still dont know you get that after a parry and a follow light from that parry
I hope they don’t nerf him bad, but I definitely feel it coming. I’m fine with the backflip kick going away but pls don’t touch his damage numbers or take away his health again
I mean if they just make it so he doesn't regen stamina on backflip and make it so he can't backflip off flip kick it will be perfect. But yeah I really fear a ubisoft over compensating nerf coming.
his skit ain't really that busted imo his backflip is very vulnerable to gb..... the stamina on backflip tho needs some fixing
@@marzialalfonzocanada888 everybody highlights that he is gb vulnerable on missed bash but fails to highlight that he also has a blue attack that he can do to punish dodges just like gryphon. I have no other issues dealing with shinobi until they bring out that backflip.
Well there is the nerf and damn now he feels clunky
I just want to see how that guy will react once he sees that you can just... gb shinobi... on a correct read...
sTiLl bUsTeD wHy dOeS uBiSoFt dO tHiS
its just the stam. people dont like playing against characters with enough stam to put in 10 seconds of offense before stopping to recover. i can think of a couple characters who got nerfed recently with tons of stam
Key word there "on a correct read". Just fucking guess and maybe you won't be stun locked to hell
Is this the rework
yes
Beautiful calling the zone for the deflect comeback. Alot of people hate the new shinobi but honestly I think he just needs a stamina nerf. Maybe make his heavy speed a little slower. I'm an orochi main but my good friend has been a shinobi main for a long time and the re work makes it so he can actually play more competitively. Shinobi is really hard to fight with Orochi when it used to be the opposite.
Out of curiosity, Nova, do you judge people who play bad on For Honor?
I don't think so, only if they are fully monkebrained and toxic.
@@MeisterSchwabbo I asked because i am rather bad and wouldn't know what to feel if i ever saw myself in one of his videos.
@@Jayco2855 as long as you don't throw neutral dodgeattacks or lights even though they got parried like 4 times in a row you should be fine, most importantly, Nova won't judge skill the only FH youtuber who does that is Kenzo, havok and freeze, as long as you aren't toxic or just straight up dumb no one will judge you, except maybe the comments or kenzo, havok and freeze
@@MeisterSchwabbo Okay, to be honest with you, i get insulted most matches i play, simply because i trigger my allies by playing bad (Their words)
i love how the kid always says "@#&!" like i dont think hes old enough for the game bro
I'm pretty sure nova has a chat filter for profanity so he doesn't get demonitized
just one thing that 100% sure is They Complaint Because They Lose..
How do he have so much stamina
'Why did they make deflect input kick input'
So you can kick to punish an attack if you miss the deflect timing? (Idk anyone who goes for a raw heavy instead of a bash if the enemy can continue their combos most of the time)
I believe shinobi's deflect breaks hyper armor
@@hylux7 it does.
That warlord would have done better if he threw zones or full guard heavies
Shinobi is definitely aggressive😅
Nah after watching this aint shinobi kinda broken now?
0:08 jack’o pose anyone?
Shinobi made conquer’a shield 🛡 look like a paper plate 🍽🗑
Everyone you fought needs Jesus right now
Can someone help me, for some reason my sickle throw won't work. I hold down heavy on the controller but it throws a heavy, switched to keyboard and mouse but the problem is still the same...
21:30 what?
I mean I do get his frustration
why can he dodge my punish if i read his kick?
thats stupid, he has a choice between undodgable, unblockable and kick if i make a correct read i should be able to punish.
Idk this I pretty balanced compared to other reworks
I agree, but the thing that annoys me the most is shinobis deflect and his undodgeable heavy speed.
@@MeisterSchwabbo I think it’s the stamina, like he does ten thousand backflips before he’s out of stam, when Kyoshin spins his katana for like twice and already has no stam..
@@ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162 i think ubisoft should make parries drain the enemies stamina but only like 16 stamina per parry. And bashes should cost WAY more stam same goes for every finisher
I know that berserker lol, he is passive af and goes for every light parry and deflect, wierd player, and always cry when loose
You succesfuly dodge shinobi's attacks but he just backflips and hits you anyway, he can guarantee an attack every time he kicks you, if you get guard breaked by shinobi he literally does something like 40 damage. Nice rework Ubisoft, nice one.
Hahahahaha bro I agree! You feint to make him throw a kick so you can punish…… rather you get punished for punishing him. I imagine all the guys or girls using this hero are true losers in society that hasn’t amounted to anything in their entire lives besides the ability to use a broken hero. Same goes for highlander and kyoshin or however the fk you spell his girly looking ass.
@@unfitking8663 To be honest, my only two problems are hitokiri and shinobi.
Shinobi is so OP three bashes and an infinite with a thirty damage guaranteed
weird how the kick after the deflect isnt 100% guaranteed
It’s because he does a guaranteed 24 damage from the deflect and he can go into sickle rain undodge if they try to dodge out your deflect kick it’s perfectly fine
That Shinobi is kinda spammy
Where did you get this amour from?
Some season pass I think. It's only exclusive to the people that got the skin when that season was present.
@@tempsikandersuckskilla4112 no i think you just get it by reping him up cause the gold arms and chest peice is all obtainable by leveling up and dont know bout the helmet. hope this helps
@@Envixity2008 Have you felt, depressed before? It's a genuine question.....
@@tempsikandersuckskilla4112 yes. Why?
@@Envixity2008 Cuz i am
lol that pose
* plays warlord first and then falls back on his crutch berserker, potentially one of the best duelists in the game.
* watches kick and backflip wiff multiple times without GB punishing it.
* Even whines about shugoki who at best is a moderately good 1v1 character.
"Damn, must be ubisoft's fault and this guy for exploiting my stupidity!"
0:20 Did you mean me Jon? ;p
I just put my controller down everytime I fight shinobi
This Nick must be fun.. Sadly we share the same name.. I'm just curious why those kinda people play pvp if they don't want to be challenged.