I’m a fairly new league player and I picked up talon. I currently struggle with dealing against midlanders that have longer range than me and can poke. I could never get cose enough to them to trade and can’t solo kill them bc I lost a good amount of health due to poke
@@KEVY_VAL yeh its a common thing with melee vs range, majority of the time u have to just wait till u are lvl 6 and then u can E over a wall and combo them that way with ult ign, but before u can do that ur job is to take as little poke as possible and farm up as strong as possible till u get ur items, as later on u can one shot mages super easily
@@Howl_v2 When you say 'with ult ignite' do you tend to ult into an AA and then ignite? Or are you comboing the ult with something else? Would love a step-by-step Talon guide that isn't just playing the champ tbh where you take some time to explain everything.
good video but i think for future educational uploads you should keep the gameplay footage uncut and raw, it would be way easier to understand your decision making without cuts
@@Howl_v2 i just think for example when you roam, you skip straight to the roam, but i assume most people would wanna see what u do to enable that roam and what u do with the wave and what not
Ghostblade suppose to be more impact but i find always rushing profane gives more dmg and the active allows me to fast push waves and keep a higher cs score - both works I definitely prefer hydra
Profane vs roamers is very good, but that said you'll be giving your roam power in exchange to better clearwave early on. You'll hope that your teammates dont die for every gank so you can build up a xp and farm advantage. I personally prefer Youumus cz its a bit cheaper and you want to help your team as much as possible, but either of them work, but you have to adjust how you play with the build for me, your first item should either be eclipse, youumus or P. Hydra
You cant beat Yasuo unless he makes a grave mistake, normally they have Fleet so they can heal quite a bit, but Yasuo can deny half of your W with his wall so you cant proc your passive early and after 6 he can deny your ult. And i didnt even mention the passive shield that wont let you poke him If u want to fight him go Eclipse and good luck, if u want to get stronger, go Yooumus and do quickroams, be careful so he doesnt take your tower tho
U don’t rly win this lane, ur chance of winning a trade is by procing his shield with W then next time ur W is up, if he walks up u can go for a trade but make sure u keep the trade short otherwise he wins out on longer trades, also AA Q AA is good when he has no shield up, u can also run phase rush to trade and run out quickly
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I’m a fairly new league player and I picked up talon. I currently struggle with dealing against midlanders that have longer range than me and can poke. I could never get cose enough to them to trade and can’t solo kill them bc I lost a good amount of health due to poke
@@KEVY_VAL yeh its a common thing with melee vs range, majority of the time u have to just wait till u are lvl 6 and then u can E over a wall and combo them that way with ult ign, but before u can do that ur job is to take as little poke as possible and farm up as strong as possible till u get ur items, as later on u can one shot mages super easily
@@Howl_v2 thx man luv ur vid
@@Howl_v2 When you say 'with ult ignite' do you tend to ult into an AA and then ignite? Or are you comboing the ult with something else? Would love a step-by-step Talon guide that isn't just playing the champ tbh where you take some time to explain everything.
good video but i think for future educational uploads you should keep the gameplay footage uncut and raw, it would be way easier to understand your decision making without cuts
I use to do longer vids (aka no cuts) but in terms of value to duration it feels like its better if I show moments where things are actively happening
@@Howl_v2 i just think for example when you roam, you skip straight to the roam, but i assume most people would wanna see what u do to enable that roam and what u do with the wave and what not
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when do you go profane first vs youmuus?
Ghostblade suppose to be more impact but i find always rushing profane gives more dmg and the active allows me to fast push waves and keep a higher cs score - both works I definitely prefer hydra
Profane vs roamers is very good, but that said you'll be giving your roam power in exchange to better clearwave early on.
You'll hope that your teammates dont die for every gank so you can build up a xp and farm advantage.
I personally prefer Youumus cz its a bit cheaper and you want to help your team as much as possible, but either of them work, but you have to adjust how you play with the build
for me, your first item should either be eclipse, youumus or P. Hydra
Could you tell me, how to embarrass Yasuo?
You cant beat Yasuo unless he makes a grave mistake, normally they have Fleet so they can heal quite a bit, but Yasuo can deny half of your W with his wall so you cant proc your passive early and after 6 he can deny your ult.
And i didnt even mention the passive shield that wont let you poke him
If u want to fight him go Eclipse and good luck, if u want to get stronger, go Yooumus and do quickroams, be careful so he doesnt take your tower tho
U don’t rly win this lane, ur chance of winning a trade is by procing his shield with W then next time ur W is up, if he walks up u can go for a trade but make sure u keep the trade short otherwise he wins out on longer trades, also AA Q AA is good when he has no shield up, u can also run phase rush to trade and run out quickly