guys this isn't a court case i'm making the video cuz i had the question and recorded myself looking for the answer. don't overthink it. Y'all know this is just my opinion, Right? 6.2/10
Ultimate is not bad , more like he try to find a way to fit in liquid . Liquid currently is struggle with yekindar , twitzz lose to faze ( he sold his soul to karringan ) , naf cant 1v3 insane clutch (naf is tired asf now) , jks will be insane player if the team actually play and good Tldr what i mean : twitzz sold his soul to faze , yekindar downfall , liquid still an insane good player team , it not ultimate being bad , he just good and want to troll
I was thinking to myself when are you going to talk about donk? Is he being countered or is it the pressure of being possible top 1 going to his head? maybe is spirit's lacking tactical game? Would be very interesting to see your take
my love for n.a is still there although we have what just liquid lol, i think cadian would have worked alot better if they didnt have skullz i never believed in that team cadian is an insanely strong player with the right group of ppl this squad can do much better, Yekindar hasn't been performing how he used to perform back in 2022 that kid was an insane entry frag, overall i think liquid aren't clicking on all cyclinders they might need to get rid of yekindar to get a better entry frag 1) naf & twistz belong together for sure 2) yekindar isnt performing how he was previously 3) ultimate is getting either not playing too good or like you've mentioned downloaded 4) jks is an interesting choice for sure i think he's really solid 5) retire yekindar get a better entry frag 6) bring back stewie he can go on any team & win tournaments he's such a great player i think him & brax are 2 legends of this game
Another banger video, But, When can we get a _Who takes the most bomb damage_ video? Also, Good call on the video title, other is a bit harsh lol. I think he learned a lot from these games, and if not then somebody on his team needs to say something because I think he obviously has the potential to really be great, just needs a bit of a play style refresher . We'll see what happens i suppose
Ive been watching there matches, Ultimate has 2 major issues. His first glaringly obvious issue is that he plays very aggressively and without good exit strategy. His second issue is that he does this on CT side.
I dont think it looks like he gets countered a lot. He is just often super exposed when he peaks and then gets killed when he misses a shot. And he does seem to miss a lot currently.
People wanna push narratives so bad. You cant make a judgement call on a player who only has 5 events in T1 and his ratings go from 1.2-0.9 just let him play
A thing to consider is he wasnt really a stand out player in t2 either. So its stands to reason that he is being judged quicker than other players would be.
@luca7675 to be fair players say t2 is a fiesta in terms of tactics and you can't prep for that. Makes sense it would be hard to consistently be great in that environment.
Ultimate countered? Sorry NA, but he never was on a level where a team goes like „oh noooo, ultimate is soooo good, we need to find a way to counter him and get him out of his a-game“ He - as most players of TL - is a mid player in a team that plays mid counterstrike…
its funny how they make a video of a successful new player and explain his playstyle in detail and the wonder what happened to him after they literally just broke down his whole playbook. how is he gonna be able to develop a set of different openings in a small amount of time while most of his entries are being read?
These types of videos are not affecting his success on the server. Many teams will have some scouting reports on how he plays before any TH-camr decided to make an analysis on him. That is just the nature of playing at the very top. Everyone will eventually know your playbook and your tendencies, it's on the player to adapt and figure out a way to be successful. It's why players like Zywoo, m0nesy, niko, etc. are so insanely good. Everyone already knows their tendencies, they are just able to excel regardless of that.
@@kiramaticc so you telling me they have an in depth video guide on the strength of every pro player? sure they figure out what he does in a demo somewhere, but i doubt it's as nit picky as some of these yotubers can get.
@@glashausAimz2 Not videos, but notes and plans on how to target players tendencies, especially if its for taking space or site executes. What do you think analysts/coaches do for pro teams?
@@glashausAimz2so you think a youtuber will analize more a pro player than a coach from a tier 1 team to make the strategies to win million dollar tournaments U so dumb bro
guys this isn't a court case i'm making the video cuz i had the question and recorded myself looking for the answer. don't overthink it.
Y'all know this is just my opinion, Right? 6.2/10
elisa masters espoo 2024
Ultimate is not bad , more like he try to find a way to fit in liquid . Liquid currently is struggle with yekindar , twitzz lose to faze ( he sold his soul to karringan ) , naf cant 1v3 insane clutch (naf is tired asf now) , jks will be insane player if the team actually play and good
Tldr what i mean : twitzz sold his soul to faze , yekindar downfall , liquid still an insane good player team , it not ultimate being bad , he just good and want to troll
what are you rating
The real test for ultimate is if he can reinvent himself if teams are figuring him out. He's young and has plenty of time to adapt
Now people have tape, can study and anti strat him. Honeymoon phase also most likely over. He has to adapt.
navi particularly seems to be very good at countering awpers , they also shutdown degsters , torzsi ,shiro
yup. torzi was getting countered haarrrrdd
I'm not surprised considering they're the org that was drawing up plays for the best aggressive awper of all time for years
Problem is sometimes they counter awper so hard they counter their own awper.
This happen pretty rarely, but it does happen
The only awper there failed to counter is zywoo.
Should also add m0nesy in this list.
God forbid a pro gets a bad game once in a while
* TWO bad EVENTS
Nice bait lol
Yeah, no problem with that. But i dont see how thats relevant for ultimates case. He has been bad for 2 Events in a row.
Long time Liquid fan, had no clue he was even doing bad recently :(
I was thinking to myself when are you going to talk about donk? Is he being countered or is it the pressure of being possible top 1 going to his head? maybe is spirit's lacking tactical game? Would be very interesting to see your take
Donk has a >1.2 rating over the last month and a >1.3 rating over the last 3 months. How is he struggeling or being countered at the moment?
@@P1nteryeah it’s not him being countered it’s just spirit doing bad lol
Did this start after or before the update ?
The real question is what happened to Voo streams...
only so many hours in the day man
@@itsvoocope...
Also whatever happened to voostin
@@itsvoo You do you king, hope you find some time!
my love for n.a is still there although we have what just liquid lol, i think cadian would have worked alot better if they didnt have skullz i never believed in that team cadian is an insanely strong player with the right group of ppl this squad can do much better, Yekindar hasn't been performing how he used to perform back in 2022 that kid was an insane entry frag, overall i think liquid aren't clicking on all cyclinders they might need to get rid of yekindar to get a better entry frag
1) naf & twistz belong together for sure
2) yekindar isnt performing how he was previously
3) ultimate is getting either not playing too good or like you've mentioned downloaded
4) jks is an interesting choice for sure i think he's really solid
5) retire yekindar get a better entry frag
6) bring back stewie he can go on any team & win tournaments he's such a great player i think him & brax are 2 legends of this game
Another banger video, But, When can we get a _Who takes the most bomb damage_ video? Also, Good call on the video title, other is a bit harsh lol. I think he learned a lot from these games, and if not then somebody on his team needs to say something because I think he obviously has the potential to really be great, just needs a bit of a play style refresher . We'll see what happens i suppose
Ive been watching there matches, Ultimate has 2 major issues. His first glaringly obvious issue is that he plays very aggressively and without good exit strategy. His second issue is that he does this on CT side.
He’s gonna change his name to Pretty good
I dont think it looks like he gets countered a lot. He is just often super exposed when he peaks and then gets killed when he misses a shot. And he does seem to miss a lot currently.
YEKINDAR throwing is affecting his mental, thats why hes doing bad
People wanna push narratives so bad. You cant make a judgement call on a player who only has 5 events in T1 and his ratings go from 1.2-0.9 just let him play
A thing to consider is he wasnt really a stand out player in t2 either. So its stands to reason that he is being judged quicker than other players would be.
@luca7675 to be fair players say t2 is a fiesta in terms of tactics and you can't prep for that. Makes sense it would be hard to consistently be great in that environment.
amkal vs NIP game when?
Ultimate countered? Sorry NA, but he never was on a level where a team goes like „oh noooo, ultimate is soooo good, we need to find a way to counter him and get him out of his a-game“
He - as most players of TL - is a mid player in a team that plays mid counterstrike…
Get a life :(
no stap tap
Yooo
Lazy video
Voo hating
most overrated player oat
its funny how they make a video of a successful new player and explain his playstyle in detail and the wonder what happened to him after they literally just broke down his whole playbook. how is he gonna be able to develop a set of different openings in a small amount of time while most of his entries are being read?
These types of videos are not affecting his success on the server. Many teams will have some scouting reports on how he plays before any TH-camr decided to make an analysis on him. That is just the nature of playing at the very top. Everyone will eventually know your playbook and your tendencies, it's on the player to adapt and figure out a way to be successful. It's why players like Zywoo, m0nesy, niko, etc. are so insanely good. Everyone already knows their tendencies, they are just able to excel regardless of that.
@@kiramaticc so you telling me they have an in depth video guide on the strength of every pro player? sure they figure out what he does in a demo somewhere, but i doubt it's as nit picky as some of these yotubers can get.
@@glashausAimz2 Not videos, but notes and plans on how to target players tendencies, especially if its for taking space or site executes. What do you think analysts/coaches do for pro teams?
@@kiramaticc thanks captain obvious
@@glashausAimz2so you think a youtuber will analize more a pro player than a coach from a tier 1 team to make the strategies to win million dollar tournaments
U so dumb bro
He is bot