Is the American JLTV really that good of a Tactical Light Vehicle?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2022
- The Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) is a United States military (specifically U.S. Army, U.S. Marine Corps) and United States Special Operations Command program to part-replace the Humvee with a family of more survivable vehicles with greater payload. Early studies for the JLTV program were approved in 2006. The JLTV program incorporates lessons learned from the earlier Future Tactical Truck Systems program and other associated efforts.
The JLTV program has evolved considerably throughout various development phases and milestones including required numbers and pricing. Variants are capable of performing armament carrier, utility, command and control (shelter), ambulance, reconnaissance and a variety of other tactical and logistic support roles. JLTV follows the U.S. Army's Long Term Armor Strategy with kits for two levels of armor protection. Oshkosh's L-ATV was selected as the winner of the JLTV program in August 2015 and awarded an initial production contract for up to 16,901 JLTVs. The U.S. Army approved the JLTV for full-rate production in June 2019.
A competitive rebuy for the A2 JLTV is currently in progress, the final Request for Proposal (RfP) for this issued on 9 February 2022, with a contract award expected in September 2022.
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Marine here! We use JLTVs a lot and I really like them. They're WAY better than the piece of shit Humvees, and WAY more comfortable. I do have a problem with how the doors dont have an automatic assist to open it, like most vehicles. Its heavy AF! I'd imagine if it rolled onto it's side, trying to open that bitch would be impossible! Hooking radios up to them is also very simple, and I love how the vehicle tells you everything that's wrong with it. All in all, from an 0621 experience, 10/10!
I was a Bradley mechanic and Recovery operator during the first rotation into Iraq and even was there during the second and third rotations. I saw our Hummvs get absolutely shredded by nuts and bolts that were laid around IEDs. The vehicles looked like someone shot bird shot at paper targets. They 1114s with the upgraded armor plate and the shrapnel went straight through them. The damn ballistic glass was the toughest part of the trucks. During my 2nd tour I was assigned to the 101st ABN ( loaned to them) at FOB Normandy. They already had 8 Hummvs destroyed by IED by the time i arrived. I was assigned to them because their colonel demanded better armor protection. So he got pre-po Bradley's from Kuwait. 13 to be exact. By the time they rotated back to the states 8 months later 11 of the Bradley's were coded out. 5 of which burned down due to the IEDs striking fuel cell under the turret. Hell I towed two of them while they were still burning because I wasn't waiting for Haji to wake up want to play. Anyways when I was in Kuwait at start of the 2nd tour I was sent with our smo to boneyard in Kuwait for Hummv parts scrounging. The Hummv boneyard was honestly one of two times I cried during that time. The trucks were all snapshots of how destructive IEDs are. It was a pitiful sight. And the yard was multiple football fields big and that was just the 2nd tour starting and just the Hummvs. Every time I rode in a Hummv going FOB to FOB. I never once felt remotely safe. They were Coffins on wheels in Iraq. The thousands of soldiers who did missions in those things were god damn brave and deserve allot of credit. I am grateful that the Army is replacing the Hummvs. But it should have been done before Iraq was ever a thing.
It will be interesting to see how long the Humvee will stick around now that it can more likely stay in the rear where the expense of this thing isn't quite needed.
I live in Wisconsin, we actually toured Oshkosh Defense in high school. They had a whole room on our route dedicated to the JLTV, all of the engineering that went into it was super impressive. I wish I remembered more of it now 😅
Software bugs have the least priority when it comes to JLTV. As time passes those can be easily patched up by installing new software.
I had a mutt jeep with no armor. It was agile and very capable of getting across off road hazards. They took that jeep away and gave me a Hummer. It was way less agile and any large grade variances or terrain stability was an issue. The reality is the dividing line of armored or unarmored vehicles. I was a forward observer and needed to be fast over a wide range of terrain. I relied on recon and intel to determine areas that we could operate in. If that intel was bad then we were boned anyway. We chose to go in harms way with the intel that we had and it worked. The reality in war is that someone was going to get the short straw. The hummer was a down grade in this role. Higher vis, horrible offroad ability, and cumbersome. The weight to engine power was horrible. I can't imagine how an even heavier vehicle would have performed. There should be a standard for light unarmored vehicles for recon and fast troop movements, then a light armor vehicle that protects from shoulder fired rounds when speed is crucial to reinforce the front line, then the medium armored vehicles for the reinforcement troops to get to the rear areas to start the fobs and logistic support areas through potentially compromised routes of travel. Air conditioning is a luxury. Once acclimated to the local environment is not an issue. If you are hot, stick your head out the window. When the Hummers first came out, I was out at 29 palms and three were rolled and one caused a major injury. I had enough clout to keep my mutt and likely was one of the last in the field. When you are blazing new paths, be fast and agile. When you are following those paths, be careful and prepared for shoulder fired weapons, when you are travelling established roads, be prepared for IEDs and other non-conventional weapons. The reality is push hard with motorized, follow up with mechanized, then support with air mobile. The money spent on armored third wave support should be spent on air mobile assets and then assets to remove anti air targets.
Just give me bullet proofed South African Toyota Land Cruiser
The i actually got a chance to see one of these in person it was on the back of a semi truck in fact it was three of them I thought it looked kinda cool and the next day heading down the interstate I passed a couple of National guard humvees on the road the vehicle it is ment to replace talk about that being a strange deal😂
I have had the honor to work in a business that fills a small but important role in the JLTV project, I handle armored parts for the JLTV and have also handled thousands of armored parts for packages that go on the humvee, and I'm glad to see how much more protection some one riding in the B-kit JLTV is offered compared to the armored humvee, I can also say the quality controll on the JLTV project is impressive, traceability is taken EXTREEMLY seriously so if for example a window frame fails in combat, or has cracked welds or even its paint falls off oshkosh or the US millitary can quarantine those parts and find out when, and where they were produced, if documentation is lost for a part no matter how large or expensive it has to be scrapped so that way oshkosh or worst case the millitary is ensured it can find the source of a failure
I mean it has working A/C so it’s good enough for me
Former US Army Recon. OIEF & OEF.
As an infantryman in the Marine Corps that drives the JLTV nearly every day, I've got to say that I absolutely love this beautiful beast! It's better than the HMMWV in every aspect. The fastest speed I've ever gotten the JLTV up to is 90mph, which is pretty fast for something of that weight.
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I loved the footage of them operating on the moon. Very impressive.
I have had the joy (yeah, right!) of operating several variants of US Army vehicles on interstate highways during my time with the N.C. ANG and the Michigan ANG. Back in 1989, with the Michigan ANG, we went to our annual training at Camp Grayling Joint Maneuver Training Center about 200 miles from our armory and it took over 9 hours to get the convoy to our destination. I drove up in a standard US Army semi-truck/trailer pulling a unit CP. That was awful since the passenger seat was non-existent as it was really just a box with pad that I sat on. For the ride back though...that was in a Vietnam Era Jeep (proper Jeep made Jeep) with a soft top and it was a load and uncomfortable trip. Many years later after going to college and joining the NCANG I got the privilege of driving the Humvee on the interstate. I was in JAG Unit and we traveled to various armories for handle various legal affairs. I will never forget just how loud those things were on the Interstate, yeah they shake violently and are extremely loud at highway speeds. For that matter, they are loud just sitting there idling! The newer vehicles are so much better designed than the ones we had 15+ years ago!
I absolutely love the look of the JLTV. It would be so cool if Oshkosh offered a scaled down civilian version, obviously without the weapons systems and armor, but maintaining it’s off road capability.
The HMMWV has done all that's been asked of it. When it's up-armored, it can take a beating. However, mobility & payload capacity suffers. According to Oshkosh, that's what lead to the development of the JLTV. It was an attempt to restore good automotive performance at an acceptable level of protection.
It will make a good battlefield taxi behind the lines.
One of these would make a badass wildland fire truck.